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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
May 10 2020 01:52 GMT
#281
On May 10 2020 05:13 Garrl wrote:


for those wanting to see flash z

think it's versus fbh
Thank you for posting this!
KTY
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 10 2020 07:40 GMT
#282
On May 10 2020 10:12 Jacolope wrote:
I remember reading that he-who-will-not-be-named practiced T more than Z, in order to prepare for the matchup. I wonder if his T would beat Flash's Z?

Saviors T couldnt even beat GoRush
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
May 13 2020 16:24 GMT
#283
On May 10 2020 05:13 Garrl wrote:
https://youtu.be/EwU-Nsy6vEE

for those wanting to see flash z

think it's versus fbh


Thanks for the recommendation, that was a good game!
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10726 Posts
May 14 2020 02:06 GMT
#284
On May 10 2020 16:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2020 10:12 Jacolope wrote:
I remember reading that he-who-will-not-be-named practiced T more than Z, in order to prepare for the matchup. I wonder if his T would beat Flash's Z?

Saviors T couldnt even beat GoRush

I'd like to see his play still, just out of curiosity, does he have a YouTube or is he allowed to stream or anything? lol
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
May 14 2020 06:03 GMT
#285
Although FBH isn't top terran, he's still damn good and manages to qualify ASL. And seeing how FlaSh's Z roasted him, that ensnare usage was brilliant.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13423 Posts
May 14 2020 06:09 GMT
#286
FBH’s build was pretty terrible though. Two port wraith like that is pretty tough to pull off in modern game.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10726 Posts
May 14 2020 07:21 GMT
#287
On May 14 2020 15:09 RowdierBob wrote:
FBH’s build was pretty terrible though. Two port wraith like that is pretty tough to pull off in modern game.

This is what I was thinking as well lol, I think FBH just wanted to 2port Wraith FlaSh's Z =P
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 14 2020 15:11 GMT
#288
2 port wraith is viable. You see it used all the time in streams successfully. Just not this time.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 14 2020 20:46 GMT
#289
Leaving aside the question of how good FBH’s build and execution were, did anyone else find Flash’s muta defense unusual? He split his mutas into small groups often. At one point he was chasing an almost-dead wraith with mutas and an overlord when his mineral line was attacked by other wraiths. He sent his mutas back immediately, and I was just thinking the almost-dead wraith was going to get away when I realized Flash had left one muta to chase it, and that muta killed the wraith. There were several other times when he used task forces of various sizes to get things done, whereas I’m used to seeing mutas all in a clump.

Perhaps other Zergs already play this way and I’m not giving them enough credit, but I thought I detected a kind of Flash-like flexibility of thinking and response. I’m excited to see more of his offracing.
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kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
May 14 2020 23:29 GMT
#290
On May 15 2020 05:46 Djabanete wrote:
Leaving aside the question of how good FBH’s build and execution were, did anyone else find Flash’s muta defense unusual? He split his mutas into small groups often. At one point he was chasing an almost-dead wraith with mutas and an overlord when his mineral line was attacked by other wraiths. He sent his mutas back immediately, and I was just thinking the almost-dead wraith was going to get away when I realized Flash had left one muta to chase it, and that muta killed the wraith. There were several other times when he used task forces of various sizes to get things done, whereas I’m used to seeing mutas all in a clump.

Perhaps other Zergs already play this way and I’m not giving them enough credit, but I thought I detected a kind of Flash-like flexibility of thinking and response. I’m excited to see more of his offracing.


I kind of noticed Flash doing that too, but didnt pay much attention to it. And I dont remember other Zs doing this with Mutas, they always harass/force turrets or delay the T pushes by baiting stims. Also his flanking at the end was great, it closed out the game.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
May 15 2020 00:56 GMT
#291
Flash's zerg reminded me a lot of Calm. It wasn't mechanically impressive compared with other zergs, but it was well thought out with good decision making. I know this is far too early to make any generalizations but I wouldn't be surprised if this this is the direction his offraces take.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8895 Posts
May 17 2020 08:53 GMT
#292
Flash going random (and getting protoss) vs Free

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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
May 19 2020 12:23 GMT
#293
Just watched his zvts vs by.barracks. im not sure if he randomed z or picked Z but the games werent all that impressive. His Muta micro is definitely lacking. I dont see him doing well vs ASL quality terrans until he sorts that out.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8895 Posts
May 19 2020 13:51 GMT
#294
On May 19 2020 21:23 Sadist wrote:
Just watched his zvts vs by.barracks. im not sure if he randomed z or picked Z but the games werent all that impressive. His Muta micro is definitely lacking. I dont see him doing well vs ASL quality terrans until he sorts that out.


That is very well said Sadist! Saw that match too and I was thinking that against a top terran player, like Light or Sharp or Last he would lose the game. But he got away with 2-0 against by.Barracks
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-19 14:15:06
May 19 2020 14:03 GMT
#295
I agree, his Zerg has been shown to be not as good as his Protoss. He seems to be able to coordinate darkswarm with lurkers well enough.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 19 2020 15:13 GMT
#296
He randomed into Zerg twice. I think his macro was surprisingly good, but yeah, his micro was really meh in some places, but Flash has always been good at tailoring build orders to give him an advantage, so maybe he can get away with something like that in ASL.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
May 19 2020 15:25 GMT
#297
On May 15 2020 05:46 Djabanete wrote:
Leaving aside the question of how good FBH’s build and execution were, did anyone else find Flash’s muta defense unusual? He split his mutas into small groups often. At one point he was chasing an almost-dead wraith with mutas and an overlord when his mineral line was attacked by other wraiths. He sent his mutas back immediately, and I was just thinking the almost-dead wraith was going to get away when I realized Flash had left one muta to chase it, and that muta killed the wraith. There were several other times when he used task forces of various sizes to get things done, whereas I’m used to seeing mutas all in a clump.

Perhaps other Zergs already play this way and I’m not giving them enough credit, but I thought I detected a kind of Flash-like flexibility of thinking and response. I’m excited to see more of his offracing.


That's true, but to be fair, FBH also split his wraiths, forcing Flash to split his mutas right?
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
May 19 2020 16:30 GMT
#298
On May 19 2020 23:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I agree, his Zerg has been shown to be not as good as his Protoss. He seems to be able to coordinate darkswarm with lurkers well enough.



Ya his ZvP seems pretty good but his ZvT is lacking. I have not seen his ZvZ but unless he can play a wonky style without Mutas hes probably in trouble. My guess is most Z would go 9 pool or 9 pool speedling vs his Random so he wont be getting much of an Advantage ZvZ with random.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1114 Posts
May 19 2020 17:43 GMT
#299
Hatch10 should be considered also against R imo.
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-20 09:31:23
May 20 2020 09:18 GMT
#300
On May 19 2020 21:23 Sadist wrote:
Just watched his zvts vs by.barracks. im not sure if he randomed z or picked Z but the games werent all that impressive. His Muta micro is definitely lacking. I dont see him doing well vs ASL quality terrans until he sorts that out.


Sadist what you said is 100% true and is also sole reason he is playing against Barracks and not light atm. I am sure Flash is well aware of areas that he needs to work on as both Zerg and Protos and he is taking the first steps to solve them. Puting aside the long discussion on random pros & cons, Flash switched to challenge himself not because he is right now on ASL Champion level with the Z&P races but to work and hopefully become in the near future. Let's enjoy the ride!
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