EPTI understand that 12h exp build order may not be what they wanted, but it is still not appropriate.
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2020-10-09 18:13
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krsna
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I understand that 12h exp build order may not be what they wanted, but it is still not appropriate. 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2020-10-09 18:13 User was banned for this post. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland326 Posts
On October 09 2020 05:33 plaetschernderbach wrote: Can't you not just use /stats of each user to decide which team has won. Formula example: /s username A (after the game has ended) - /s username A (before the game has started) You should end up with 1-0-0, or 0-1-0 or 0-0-1 Do you know what I mean? Abuse Blizzard's WIN - LOSS Statistik. Its build in and free  On October 09 2020 11:34 SirGlinG wrote: Could be a good solution. To handle those who stay at loss screen it'd require looking at the last player to leave, if he won or lost. If the bot /stats searches the players before/during the game and then looks at stats of the last player to leave. Not sure how quickly b.net stats updates but if it's within 2 minutes then no loser who stayed in the game can create a game and 4pool a quick win right after the game. Yeah, that's actually a good idea. I didn't think about this. However I've already solved this problem. I read game winner from results chart. Winning player is always on top (listed as first). I've used this for 1 or 2 weeks now and I didn't see this mechanism fail even once. On October 10 2020 01:36 krsna wrote: Just reporting d525e22 and ____xxxxx____ (the latter was also moving towards me, not sure if he actually started attacking me, but the first one for sure) from the game that has just happened. I had a 12h exp build order with zerg and they found it noob. They were using swearing words at me and eventually both attacked me at the end as allies. I understand that 12h exp build order may not be what they wanted, but it is still not appropriate. 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2020-10-09 18:13 Banned d525e22. I didn't notice other player attacking you. | ||
HaN-
France1920 Posts
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krsna
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1. The spelling is not correct for "opponents". 2. I feel that it ought to be allies, otherwise it sounds funny  | ||
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Piste
6184 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:36 HaN- wrote: Is there MMR decay? if not, it should imo Does that mean MMR decreasing without playing? That would make a good player pair with another good player unless they play actively (imbalanced teams) don't you think? | ||
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Jealous
10400 Posts
On October 11 2020 08:48 Piste wrote: Does that mean MMR decreasing without playing? That would make a good player pair with another good player unless they play actively (imbalanced teams) don't you think? In general I favor decay mechanics for Elo, but I do agree in this case it might be a bit of a stretch. | ||
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HaN-
France1920 Posts
On October 11 2020 08:48 Piste wrote: Does that mean MMR decreasing without playing? That would make a good player pair with another good player unless they play actively (imbalanced teams) don't you think? I'm not sure I understand your point. You can't really pair with a buddy since it's autobalanced. To add to my MMR decay suggestion I would like people to look at the top of the leaderboard and tell me if they think it looks okay to have players sittin in the top 10, 20, 30 with ~5 games. | ||
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Jealous
10400 Posts
On October 11 2020 15:44 HaN- wrote: I'm not sure I understand your point. You can't really pair with a buddy since it's autobalanced. To add to my MMR decay suggestion I would like people to look at the top of the leaderboard and tell me if they think it looks okay to have players sittin in the top 10, 20, 30 with ~5 games. I don't believe that MMR decay is the appropriate solution to that potential problem. | ||
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Piste
6184 Posts
On October 11 2020 15:44 HaN- wrote: I'm not sure I understand your point. You can't really pair with a buddy since it's autobalanced. To add to my MMR decay suggestion I would like people to look at the top of the leaderboard and tell me if they think it looks okay to have players sittin in the top 10, 20, 30 with ~5 games. I mean good players who play just a couple BGH games every once and then would not be properly balanced if their MMR would decrease without losing. Yeah it sucks if someone is aiming to #1 spot and it's taken by someone who played only a few games, but I think most of the players do not care about bgh ladder rank, but rather just wants balanced teams. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
It seems pretty impossible to get to the #1 rank with just a few games anyway, and if there's one guy in the top 10 with a 6-0 account then I don't see how that matters at all. | ||
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HaN-
France1920 Posts
I absolutely do not want mmr decay. Firstly the goal is finding balanced games more so than it is creating a perfect bgh ladder, secondly I want the option of not playing for a month, thirdly it's not like ladder where you can always find a game immediately. Would suck if you were like 'oh, I gotta play a couple games today to avoid the mmr decay' and then the bot wasn't running or it bugged out or the games filled immediately and you weren't able to join.. Good points, I agree with you even tho personally I wouldn't mind decay but I see how it can annoy most. It seems pretty impossible to get to the #1 rank with just a few games anyway, and if there's one guy in the top 10 with a 6-0 account then I don't see how that matters at all. I thought that getting to the top of the leaderboard with very few games would be pretty impossible but after taking a look at it, it feels like something is wrong: There are 10 players with 10 or less games in the top 30. #6 has 6 games (6-0) #10 has 5 games (4-1) #16 has 5 games (5-0) #20 has 5 games (5-0) | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
I really don't think it matters at all how many games in the 10-30 ranks have played. I'd agree it was bad if you could get top 3 with few games played, but if someone manages to win 6-7 games straight from a 3200 rating (which could in theory give us a 13-0 account in top 2-3) then they are almost certainly really, really good anyway. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland326 Posts
On October 11 2020 01:20 krsna wrote: The bot says attacking opponents will result in ban. 1. The spelling is not correct for "opponents". 2. I feel that it ought to be allies, otherwise it sounds funny Fixed In regards to MMR decay: I think there are 2 separate things to consider 1 MMR decay, meaning that players who didn't play much should lose MMR 2 Inactive accounts on the Leaderboard - people who achieved good (or bad) stats, and stopped playing bot games but they are still listed on the Leaderboard Ad 1) I don't think there is a need for MMR decay. It makes sense when it's clear that a player has stopped playing the game. With SC:BW players often play 1-1 games and other custom games so their skill doesn't have to go down. Ad 2) It makes more sense to do something about this. I thought about not listing inactive players in the main Leaderboard and don't count them when ranking people. | ||
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krsna
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krsna
12 Posts
The game has just been played: 13/10/2020 18:10 He started attacking me at around 18:23 in the game. I left around 18:57. I was pink zerg at 6, and he was green protoss ally at 5. I even mentioned to him that the game warns one about ban if attacking a team mate, but he did not seem to care. So, I have just left. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland326 Posts
On October 14 2020 02:13 krsna wrote: Another ally killer, nickname: "FlaiR(". I will not mention that he sent me a private message in the beginning of the game with swearing words, because he did that at least in private. The game has just been played: 13/10/2020 18:10 He started attacking me at around 18:23 in the game. I left around 18:57. I was pink zerg at 6, and he was green protoss ally at 5. I even mentioned to him that the game warns one about ban if attacking a team mate, but he did not seem to care. So, I have just left. Banned. | ||
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my ally is good
10 Posts
Why? Because: krsna calling his stronger team mates (C->A ranks) - he calls them "noobs". After that krsna comes to forum and reports team-killing. C->A ranks get banned because of E-rank who is provoking them. Also, hm... If C->A ranks are noobs, and E-rank is not noob, then MMR calculation is not perfect. D3ADR3TARD need to improve MMR calculation to satisfy krsna. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland326 Posts
On October 15 2020 02:55 my ally is good wrote: Team mates of normal ranks (C->A ranks) kill krsna who is E-rank. Why? Because: krsna calling his stronger team mates (C->A ranks) - he calls them "noobs". After that krsna comes to forum and reports team-killing. C->A ranks get banned because of E-rank who is provoking them. Also, hm... If C->A ranks are noobs, and E-rank is not noob, then MMR calculation is not perfect. D3ADR3TARD need to improve MMR calculation to satisfy krsna. Yes. However, killing teammates ruins balance and that's the main reason why it's banned. Players call themselves noobs in most games. Although it's usually good players calling bad players not the other way around. But when 3v3 becomes 3v2v1 results don't mean anything. So please don't kill allies, even if they call you noob. And if you encounter really BM just report that. | ||
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skycycle
Netherlands36 Posts
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Buckfast
Czech Republic2 Posts
sometimes i get troubles to joini the game created by the bot (right now the EU2). Is there any way how to fix it/let the creator know to reset it perhaps? | ||
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