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ameba..
14 Posts
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kAra
Germany1353 Posts
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S!lience
5 Posts
I agree with SA in the evening. If not we need one more SAB bot. Its very very hard to get a spot there. | ||
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rich-
United States129 Posts
I'm not sure if you are aware how popular the SAB games are. Many times if you're not spamming refresh to join this game, it fills within <1 second. This is not an exaggeration, the game literally fills in less than 1 second. Even then, you have a 25% chance to join a bootable slot that will get closed. This is a HUGE hit. It's not just "kind of fun" -- it's literally the best game on the server all day hands down. People sit around all day and wait spamming refresh, checking where the bot is etc trying to get in. Meanwhile the DEF bot is wasting away. Many players avoid non SAB/C games. It requires no skill to achieve F rank. Simply join and go afk - mission accomplished. The lower ranked players and games have much higher variance and are difficult to balance with a ladder score. Because of this high level of variance, the games are often not balanced properly, defeating the purpose of the bot in the first place. Most players already know this. They simply don't join these games, hence DEF bot is not heavily trafficked. Therefore the F level is not worth dedicating mmr bot resources to during prime time hours. Many of your fans and BGH bot users would love it if we revisited the bots' schedule. I would suggest leaning into the successful things, and trimming back the things that don't make sense/ aren't as popular. Lean into the successes. * Run an SABC bot 24/7. - This might even peel off a lot of west players during EU AM / US PM hours to play. * Start SAB/CDE timeslots earlier & make them run longer (2 hours on either side would be good). * At least test the idea of an SA bot. If its not useful revisit the idea. Prune the less successful/useful schedules. * Re-allocate DEF to be SA or SAB * Remove "ranked only" timeslots since this is redundant with 50+ wins (50 wins takes a very long time). Again, thank you for all your hard work. This is basically the only games many of us play, so you've really made the game a lot more fun than would otherwise be playing boring unbalanced or low skilled games. | ||
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ameba..
14 Posts
The SAB/C bot games only start from 9PM at my region. So I always needed to wait the games and played at very late night and early morning. I feel very tired in the improper game hours. As the post above said, it'll be very welcomed that the SAB/C games start earlier and end later, for example, extending 1-2 hours at start and end. | ||
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Esp1noza
Russian Federation481 Posts
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leonardorm
34 Posts
Leaving at countdown on 2025-01-09 14:21 after commenting "no game for u" clearly not a "pressed ESC" accident, screen shot show it was made with full intent to make ppl waste time ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/lehqefk.jpeg) https://i.imgur.com/lehqefk.jpeg | ||
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meuhnon
Switzerland2 Posts
I tried to join games with this bot but im always boot out in lobby. Im not ranked yet and try to join DEF games Is there a place to register or some games to complete to be able to join? Tx for your answers. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4805 Posts
On January 10 2025 06:54 meuhnon wrote: Hello, I tried to join games with this bot but im always boot out in lobby. Im not ranked yet and try to join DEF games Is there a place to register or some games to complete to be able to join? Tx for your answers. No need to sign up. Bot tells you what to do before getting kicked, right? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong: 1. get 50 wins (UMS don't count) 2. join +50 wins games a bunch of times till the you get a bgh mmr. 3. join games of your rank (if you get rank C or higher, you can't join DEF) Write /stats to see your current stats. (win-loss-disconnect) | ||
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kAra
Germany1353 Posts
scroll to the bottom until "Schedule" | ||
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Wormer
Russian Federation66 Posts
On January 08 2025 00:20 rich- wrote: I'm not sure if you are aware how popular the SAB games are. Many times if you're not spamming refresh to join this game, it fills within <1 second. This is not an exaggeration, the game literally fills in less than 1 second. Even then, you have a 25% chance to join a bootable slot that will get closed. This is a HUGE hit. It's not just "kind of fun" -- it's literally the best game on the server all day hands down. People sit around all day and wait spamming refresh, checking where the bot is etc trying to get in. Meanwhile the DEF bot is wasting away. Many players avoid non SAB/C games. It requires no skill to achieve F rank. Simply join and go afk - mission accomplished. The lower ranked players and games have much higher variance and are difficult to balance with a ladder score. Because of this high level of variance, the games are often not balanced properly, defeating the purpose of the bot in the first place. Most players already know this. They simply don't join these games, hence DEF bot is not heavily trafficked. Therefore the F level is not worth dedicating mmr bot resources to during prime time hours. I was supporting the idea of DEF early but now I have to agree with @rich-. Also SABC and CDE games fill quite fast too (CDE games usually only doesn't fill when there is SABC game on the horizon). DEF bot looks indeed like a waste of resources, rotate it to an SABC game or try other proposals. I of course would love to see more games suitable for C players because during the prime time sometimes one of the bots SABC or CDE is stuck or not working and only one bot for C level games is available. | ||
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Wormer
Russian Federation66 Posts
Game: 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2025-01-10 17:08 20250110/172021 Who: CentauriProxima Why: Making canons all over his bases with no intention to play this game, then quits. It is almost 10minutes game where he doesn't kill a single enemy unit. | ||
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Kazim1
28 Posts
On January 11 2025 01:55 Wormer wrote: Ban request Game: 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2025-01-10 17:08 20250110/172021 Who: CentauriProxima Why: Making canons all over his bases with no intention to play this game, then quits. It is almost 10minutes game where he doesn't kill a single enemy unit. no ally killing or leaving at countdown = no ban trolling = allowed | ||
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kAra
Germany1353 Posts
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Wormer
Russian Federation66 Posts
On January 11 2025 02:17 Kazim1 wrote: no ally killing or leaving at countdown = no ban trolling = allowed We had cases in the past when people got banned for not playing though. | ||
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Che cazzo
136 Posts
On January 11 2025 01:55 Wormer wrote: Ban request Game: 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2025-01-10 17:08 20250110/172021 Who: CentauriProxima Why: Making canons all over his bases with no intention to play this game, then quits. It is almost 10minutes game where he doesn't kill a single enemy unit. This is why we should not introduce a ban system by voting. You are just expressing your anger on me with stupid emotions and lies. | ||
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Wormer
Russian Federation66 Posts
On January 11 2025 03:44 Che cazzo wrote: This is why we should not introduce a ban system by voting. You are just expressing your anger on me with stupid emotions and lies. I am not angry at you at all. Joining the game with no intention to play should be punished IMHO. Just facts: you make canons all over your base -- that's fine if you have some strategy in mind and willing to play after loosing one of your allies for that in exchange. But then you quit that proves you had no intention to play that game in the first place. | ||
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Che cazzo
136 Posts
On January 11 2025 03:56 Wormer wrote: I am not angry at you at all. Joining the game with no intention to play should be punished IMHO. Just facts: you make canons all over your base -- that's fine if you have some strategy in mind and willing to play after loosing one of your allies for that in exchange. But then you quit that proves you had no intention to play that game in the first place. You are talking like I was making only canons and left. This is obviously not true. Our T died in 3min, and you went early expa at another main base and dead. That is why I left. | ||
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Wormer
Russian Federation66 Posts
On January 11 2025 04:10 Che cazzo wrote: You are talking like I was making only canons and left. This is obviously not true. Our T died in 3min, and you went early expa at another main base and dead. That is why I left. You was making only canons until you got a startport and a scout on ~8 minute. I didn't die -- only 1 lair got destroyed, but I had 6-9 mutalisks popping at main soon. Your words only prove my point: as I've said, if you're not intending to suffer allies losses for making early protoss exp and cannoning up your base then you're not willing to play the game. Those people who got banned earlier also "did something at their bases" but effectively not playing the game at all. By the way, the ban system solves exactly this problem -- if many people are angry about a person, then maybe it's not a coincidence. | ||
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Che cazzo
136 Posts
On January 11 2025 04:15 Wormer wrote: You was making only canons until you got a startport and a scout on ~8 minute. I didn't die -- only 1 lair got destroyed, but I had 6-9 mutalisks popping at main soon. Your words only prove my point: as I've said, if you're not intending to suffer allies losses for making early protoss exp and cannoning up your base then you're not willing to play the game. Those people who got banned earlier also "did something at their bases" but effectively not playing the game at all. By the way, the ban system solves exactly this problem -- if many people are angry about a person, then maybe it's not a coincidence. Everybody has his reason/strat for game. I also can say you are troll, but I didn't complain at all about your early expa while T ally is dying.(furthermore, you are zerg) I don't know your strat so I don't call you as troll, but sure thing is you are a big noob and stupid communist who are keep trying to introduce useless vote ban system. Tell me anytime if you want go 1v1 with me, otherwise keep cry here like a loser. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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