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On September 26 2024 03:13 Wormer wrote:
@BGHplayer
I see. Towards your last comment: from my experience these guys who troll people also come from mid-high C ranks. Your suggestion is viable, although I would vote for one bot designated to SA only games during the SAB time with your reranking. I don't yet belong to that group, but I feel like elite-only games is the request. If those games keep collect enough people and running, then why not? Just please keep the proportion.
Hey Wormer, no the goal is not to the elite-only. As previous post it affects everybody, all ranks get rank elevation with the same scores (the higher part of those). I was just thinking this way could revive some activity, because I am observing some inactivity lately. A bit of change, especially something similar will not hurt at the very least, from my POV.
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Veggetto and DarkStarOne were banned.
There are so many incorrect reports that I can't answer to all of them but there are some more reports to review that I've might have missed.
As for SAB games - this has been talked about here. SABC and CDE split is not perfect but it has redundant bots and it is more or less covering everybody equally (with only C getting more games). Other setups will either lose redundancy or will not share bot times equally along classes.
However I might introduce a solution where bots are alternating SABC/SAB and CDE/DEF games but I'm not yet convinced that this is a good idea...
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Hello D3AD-R3TARD
I think it would lead to more activity in the upper ladder field, as there are only a few S+A players who are really active. The system encourages you to play very few games (theoretically 1 per month) in order to maintain your rank. Especially since you can still influence it for yourself. E.g. if you start games with a 50-0 acc bot, you look for games where you know the chances of winning are good (regardless of what the bot says because it only adds up and even if it says it's 50/50. Must That's not the case.) Then you get a lot of points in the first few games, sometimes you even lose the first game and still get points (so push a lot in the first games + don't lose focus) Then you could rank S as a B gamer create and try to keep it. Or other S+A gamers who have skill find it annoying to have C gamers with them in the long run because their skill level difference is too big. This means that the higher your mmr, the worse your allys. My impression is that there are too many players who don't necessarily play at the rank that would correspond to their skill level, mostly due to too few games. You can easily estimate the players who have a thousand or more games, not just based on their rank or stats but because you know them from other games. Therefore I would also think that the ladder field would be sorted better due to the change. In the end you can only judge it once it has been tested. So just test it out and wait for the feedback. This has already been discussed a few times in the theard and some SA and B players have spoken out in favor of it. Oh btw, are the 3min ban rules still active?
If I come up with any further arguments, I'll let you know.
@ wormer oh sorry then I misunderstood you
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On September 26 2024 07:03 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
As for SAB games - this has been talked about here. SABC and CDE split is not perfect but it has redundant bots and it is more or less covering everybody equally (with only C getting more games). Other setups will either lose redundancy or will not share bot times equally along classes.
However I might introduce a solution where bots are alternating SABC/SAB and CDE/DEF games but I'm not yet convinced that this is a good idea...
Hi D3AD-R3TARD,
Thank you for looking into that and for a solution.
One suggestion on what you have already in mind even without alternation in case only one bot available:
After each finished game, bot to recreate as SAB each time, then if lets say about 5 min of no game initiation just recreates as SABC until game starts. Once game end, same again - create SAB with some time to start, before recreates SABC. I dont know if thats possible tho. Btw, a small increase of S (~30) and A (~100) rank slots may work with that change even better.
Thank you.
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I think the biggest problem atm is not rank distribution, but bots not working most of the time.
Is there a possibility of implementing some self-checking, re-establishing code for bots? Especially after 18:00, when there is usually only one CDE or SABC bot left working, while the demand to go straight into next game after finishing other is much higher.
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I changed bots like this
1 SAB
1 SABC
1 CDE
1 DEF
We'll see if that works. If SAB or DEF games will have low user base I'll switch back to old setting.
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Hi D3AD-R3TARD,
There are 3 bots with open games but nobody is able to enter? Games are not even visible on the Custom Game list. Or this is just me not being able? Only the DEF bot is making games.
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On September 28 2024 01:38 BGHplayer wrote:
Hi D3AD-R3TARD,
There are 3 bots with open games but nobody is able to enter? Games are not even visible on the Custom Game list. Or this is just me not being able? Only the DEF bot is making games.
Yes, and in DEF Games C players are playing?
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On September 28 2024 01:38 BGHplayer wrote:
Hi D3AD-R3TARD,
There are 3 bots with open games but nobody is able to enter? Games are not even visible on the Custom Game list. Or this is just me not being able? Only the DEF bot is making games.
Unfortunately there was a bug that blocks bot in one rare scenario and that broke bots today. I fixed it. I'm sorry that first day on new schedule didn't work out. We will see tomorrow how those new classes work.
EDIT: I've fixed it just in time for 1 SAB game 
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news:
1. DEF - C still can play
2. Bot reboot every few mins. with players inside lobby) easy drop all)
3. just 2 bots working
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On September 28 2024 11:35 patetique wrote:
2. Bot reboot every few mins. with players inside lobby) easy drop all)
If it means every bot will be up and running then it is perfectly acceptable.
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On September 27 2024 07:12 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
I changed bots like this
1 SAB
1 SABC
1 CDE
1 DEF
We'll see if that works. If SAB or DEF games will have low user base I'll switch back to old setting.
It's working pretty good so far, played several games. Much more fun and average game length feels more as players standing (50% of C usually dies pretty fast due to lack of experience) and is more competitive. Hope this continues!
EDIT: also more S and A rank are noticed.
EDIT2: SAB bot seems bugged for some time, full room shows +0 does not start game.
Thank you!
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Lol lack of experience is the reason why C players die fast? C players have the most game experience out of any rank. Sort by the total amount of games played and the top 10 players in terms of amount of games has 7 out of 10 players being all C ranks.
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On September 29 2024 05:13 tfeign wrote:
C players have the most game experience out of any rank.
That comment just blows my mind. The most experienced players stay the noobish C rank, because S A B have less experience? Or how is it? More games played does not mean you have experience nor skill. It means you played a lot of only noob games and you will never learn how to play high level, looping in C division. There are players with 5k 10k games playing this game like for the first time.
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On September 28 2024 11:35 patetique wrote:
news:
1. DEF - C still can play
2. Bot reboot every few mins. with players inside lobby) easy drop all)
3. just 2 bots working
Thanks for noticing; DEF was fixed. All bots worked today and this shedule seems to work fine. As for reboots, they should happen less often now.
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houston we have a problem:
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU2 has entered StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU2 has exited StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU1 has entered StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU1 has exited StarCraft.
dosnt working)
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On September 29 2024 17:38 patetique wrote:
houston we have a problem:
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU2 has entered StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU2 has exited StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU1 has entered StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU1 has exited StarCraft.
dosnt working)
I'm sitting in EU2 now, so it's working.
EDIT: EU1 works too.
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On September 29 2024 17:38 patetique wrote:
houston we have a problem:
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU2 has entered StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU2 has exited StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU1 has entered StarCraft.
Your friend BghMmrBot_EU1 has exited StarCraft.
dosnt working)
All bots are restarted once a day and any time there is a disconnect so those messages might not mean any big problem.
There were 145 games yesterday and 152 today. Those are normal numbers so bots are working more or less ok.
I might implement some more precise logging to spot problems but I don't see a major issue.
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hey admin D3AD-R3TARD
Is it a hack, is it a skill, or is it luck?
For everyone that takes the side of CentauriProxima aka barcode aka porcatroia#11133 just inspect this replay carefully and keep in mind I'm not the only one that is saying he is using maphack. inspect his skills, his APM his base on the SCV staying after finishing the job, all the skilled terran know when you use an SCV you using with the shift to go back to mine he never uses an SCV with the shift his APM is around 100 and he never fails a tank drop he always knows exactly where to drop how come? with a 101 apm and he does not know how to use SCV but he knows always where to drop.
Admin in the past you bann by your admitted mistake a wrong barcode and never repaired your mistake. why that?
I know it is your work and basically, you can do whatever you want with the bots your work and you can ban them randomly but at least admit your protected people so in this scenario nobody reports those people.
I mean you admitted you banned someone wrong by mistake and never repaired, then more people reported hacking and you do not have enough proof doesn't matter the skills you do not inspect the replays.
so on your bots webpage, you can make a post with your protected players and obviously, nobody reports them so less hassle!
https://repmastered.icza.net/game/QHO0KKPCeUWpAwBxgJvZ-EL7JyqxFRwqNRC-LFp2zHA
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On October 01 2024 22:56 Matias_SC wrote:hey admin D3AD-R3TARD Is it a hack, is it a skill, or is it luck? For everyone that takes the side of CentauriProxima aka barcode aka porcatroia#11133 just inspect this replay carefully and keep in mind I'm not the only one that is saying he is using maphack. inspect his skills, his APM his base on the SCV staying after finishing the job, all the skilled terran know when you use an SCV you using with the shift to go back to mine he never uses an SCV with the shift his APM is around 100 and he never fails a tank drop he always knows exactly where to drop how come? with a 101 apm and he does not know how to use SCV but he knows always where to drop. Admin in the past you bann by your admitted mistake a wrong barcode and never repaired your mistake. why that? I know it is your work and basically, you can do whatever you want with the bots your work and you can ban them randomly but at least admit your protected people so in this scenario nobody reports those people. I mean you admitted you banned someone wrong by mistake and never repaired, then more people reported hacking and you do not have enough proof doesn't matter the skills you do not inspect the replays. so on your bots webpage, you can make a post with your protected players and obviously, nobody reports them so less hassle! https://repmastered.icza.net/game/QHO0KKPCeUWpAwBxgJvZ-EL7JyqxFRwqNRC-LFp2zHA
1. What is "evidence" of maphack?
You are saying me maphack like, "SCV not working but cliff drop excellent".
So you insist this as maphack? Stupid.
SCV not working and cliff drop does not matter, nor APM.
BTW, in this game, I clearly saw your cliff by my engineering bay.
2. Banned another barcode?
No, it was me. I had several barcodes accounts.
And I was banned for 2 times - 1 for unvisioning, 1 for not selecting race in lobby.
So what you are saying is totally stupid bullshit.
What you are saying here is like 5 years old kid's crying.
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