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Could you beat a pro-gamer?

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RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 19:54:12
June 20 2007 19:43 GMT
#1
I was intrigued to read this in another topic...

+ Show Spoiler +
d4d wrote:

6 carriers is still instant win for the lower 80% of the starcraft players.
Most reader on this forum are gosu and can spot a "low ground unit count" and micro goliaths like gosu, but that doesn't change the fact that carrier can be considered instant -win in this game...
luck is not a factor


...That's a pretty bold statement to make, not just because I changed the font to bold. Is anyone here confident enough to think that because they are in the 20% bracket of better Starcraft players think they could beat a real gosu (the big names) like Savior, Iloveoov, Nalra, Boxer, July, Nada... you get my point, say on Lost Temple, even once? Even Sen struggled to win a single game, and excluding South Korean progamers he's in the top 1%. I know that's not what the OP was saying, but I just think he took the title gosu in vain and blasphemed.

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Poll: Is Savior your bitch?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I fucking voted yes but after reading the question more carefully and realising it wasn't the same as the topic question actually meant no

Edit: fuck, I just realised my grammatical error in the last option, as there is actually no difference in the answers despite the questions being different.
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 20 2007 19:44 GMT
#2
ahk-gosu could
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
istealhotelsoap
Profile Joined February 2007
United States514 Posts
June 20 2007 19:45 GMT
#3
oo tricky.. lol
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 20 2007 19:47 GMT
#4
4pool FTW
might get a game? i doubt it though
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 20 2007 19:48 GMT
#5
yes - 1
i fucking voted yes but meant no - 1

rofl
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
June 20 2007 19:49 GMT
#6
Perhaps back in the day when I was active, I could get lucky on good positions if they missed a proxy gate attempt. Vs casy. :>

Otherwise, I simply wouldn't have a chance. The top tier foreigners get crushed and I would get crushed even harder. That's a reality.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
June 20 2007 19:52 GMT
#7
yes but only because I like stastics.
IE maybe there's a .0000001% that when I'm playing savior he breaks his wrist, or falls asleep, or get's distracted by a hot girl. If we play enough games, it'll happen eventually. Tortiose ftw over the hare!
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 20 2007 19:53 GMT
#8
fuck, i just realised my grammatical error in the last option, as there is actually no difference in the answers despite the questions being different
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
pOOwarrior-
Profile Joined January 2007
United States518 Posts
June 20 2007 19:54 GMT
#9
If I played a pro like 100 games in a row, maybe he'd get tired and lose to a cheese rush or something.

But seriously, it's well known that Korean pros are way better than the foreigners.

I think d4d's use of "gosu" was relative; i.e. he probably meant "gosu among foreigners" (and probably not including the top-tier foreigners either, but just that TL regulars would probably whoop the average pubbie). IMO, you overreacted to his words.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 20 2007 19:54 GMT
#10
Carriers are so easy to beat by any regular ffa player its not funny.

Wraiths. gollies.
Arb. Goon/storm. Scouts.
Plague+ensnare/(add any other anti air zerg unit here including 12 scourge > 6 plagued carrier -_-)

I can't believe 80% of players can't beat 6 carrier.

And I don't think anybody in tl.net can expect to beat savior with more than 5% win record. (Thats only if you are testie caliber.)
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 20 2007 19:56 GMT
#11
On June 21 2007 04:54 pOOwarrior- wrote:
If I played a pro like 100 games in a row, maybe he'd get tired and lose to a cheese rush or something.

But seriously, it's well known that Korean pros are way better than the foreigners.

I think d4d's use of "gosu" was relative; i.e. he probably meant "gosu among foreigners" (and probably not including the top-tier foreigners either, but just that TL regulars would probably whoop the average pubbie). IMO, you overreacted to his words.


i was just taking the piss out of his word choice, it's like if you were in a Christian circle and called yourself a "god" (of say, baseball or whatever) they'd think it was hugely offensive even though you didn't mean it in a holy way
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
Kassios
Profile Joined May 2006
France1424 Posts
June 20 2007 19:59 GMT
#12
Even top foreigner like draco testie sen or pj can hardly win a single game vs a pro who plays 100%
so I think, we ( tlner users) would be crushed easily by pro
- Death is certain, life is not -
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
June 20 2007 20:01 GMT
#13
1 or 2 games out of 100

hatred outlives the hateful
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 20:21:15
June 20 2007 20:01 GMT
#14
this thread is ahk-gosu bait.

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as for myself, no, never in a million years.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 20 2007 20:02 GMT
#15
This thread is not even funny. Not even remotely.

If I played a pro like 100 games in a row, maybe he'd get tired and lose to a cheese rush or something.


You would get tired WAY before him
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 20 2007 20:52 GMT
#16
On June 21 2007 05:02 minus_human wrote:
This thread is not even funny. Not even remotely.


meh, neither are you
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
June 20 2007 20:54 GMT
#17
Are we on LAN or Bnet? I might have a chance on Bnet to beat mumyung, but I dunno about on LAN or with any decent progamer =P.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
June 20 2007 21:15 GMT
#18
On June 21 2007 04:44 alffla wrote:
ahk-gosu could


does this mean tfeign is Top player that ever existed?
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 21:24:06
June 20 2007 21:23 GMT
#19
I think that I could probably beat Savior + Nada at the same time

You overreacted, gosu doesn't even mean the best these days, it simply means good. People say someone is gosu and they just mean the person is good.
Bird sings why the caged I know
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
June 20 2007 21:25 GMT
#20
In a MU where we would play 300+ games together and I 4-pooled every single time, I think I might score 1 game.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
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