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Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-12 21:21:53
May 12 2019 21:19 GMT
#21
Recently i watched Flash's stream where he irradiated some scourge with an ''eraser'', just like you do on drones... I thought i've seen everything.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3684 Posts
May 12 2019 22:22 GMT
#22
On May 05 2019 07:26 Ideas wrote:
from kespa era off the top of my head:
jangbi vs fantasy @ pathfinder jinair OSL finals + Show Spoiler +



There is a subbed version of that game that I would highly suggest. Kim Carriers casting during that game is pure gold:
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1614 Posts
May 13 2019 10:46 GMT
#23
Every single game where Effort beats Flash, you won't find better when it comes to z v t. YOU WON'T FIND BETTER
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
May 13 2019 14:31 GMT
#24
On May 04 2019 22:29 chozen86 wrote:
Can't recall exactly which games though.


Are you Jaehoon?

Tempest vs Light was some amazing micro also.

And the infamous power outage Flash vs Jaedong was amazingly highly level.
mca64
Profile Joined July 2005
Poland7 Posts
May 13 2019 15:08 GMT
#25
Nada vs Xellos on Korhal of Ceres
WCG 2004
chozen86
Profile Blog Joined May 2017
United States60 Posts
May 13 2019 15:24 GMT
#26
Bisu defending this hydra push while simultaneously countering with DT harass on multiple fronts:


The multitasking here is absolutely insane.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 13 2019 15:36 GMT
#27
bisu vs jaedong on bluestorm i remember being a blast, especially the fpvod from bisu's pov. cant find that vod anymore tho
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 20:28:31
May 13 2019 20:28 GMT
#28
On May 06 2019 04:52 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 03:53 kaby wrote:
On May 05 2019 15:36 chongu wrote:
Flash vs Bisu, WCG 2009. Awesome micro battle. Dragoons/zealots vs tanks/vultures with mines/marines


I think this is the perfect example to see why all modern games can not really belong to this thread. I love and respect every ex-pro still playing the game and demolishing any newcomer, but honestly, they are not pro anymore, and nowhere near level they used to be at.

This said, they play with open and fresh mind and it's awesome to see how new strategies approach, queens come to play, etc. But no one can ever execute it like Bisu in this video or like sAviOr in his top shape. We must deal with it and appreciate what they gave to us in the past.


Especially the part where Bisu floats 1500 minerals on 2 bases. Get real, level is way higher now than in 2009, and games like this appear all the time (or better)


Sounds like all of Mini's games these days.

On May 14 2019 00:36 Dazed. wrote:
bisu vs jaedong on bluestorm i remember being a blast, especially the fpvod from bisu's pov. cant find that vod anymore tho


Forward
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 13 2019 21:47 GMT
#29
thanks
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8121 Posts
May 14 2019 01:33 GMT
#30
On May 13 2019 23:31 kaspa84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 22:29 chozen86 wrote:
Can't recall exactly which games though.


Are you Jaehoon?

Tempest vs Light was some amazing micro also.

And the infamous power outage Flash vs Jaedong was amazingly highly level.


yeah the power outage game would have probably went down as one of the greatest games ever had the power not went out :\

Also another crazy TvZ I just remembered: Iris vs Savior @ Neo Arkanoid

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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
May 14 2019 02:33 GMT
#31
On May 06 2019 04:52 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 03:53 kaby wrote:
On May 05 2019 15:36 chongu wrote:
Flash vs Bisu, WCG 2009. Awesome micro battle. Dragoons/zealots vs tanks/vultures with mines/marines

https://youtu.be/zMH_q6jQbOo?t=552

I think this is the perfect example to see why all modern games can not really belong to this thread. I love and respect every ex-pro still playing the game and demolishing any newcomer, but honestly, they are not pro anymore, and nowhere near level they used to be at.

This said, they play with open and fresh mind and it's awesome to see how new strategies approach, queens come to play, etc. But no one can ever execute it like Bisu in this video or like sAviOr in his top shape. We must deal with it and appreciate what they gave to us in the past.


Especially the part where Bisu floats 1500 minerals on 2 bases. Get real, level is way higher now than in 2009, and games like this appear all the time (or better)

Thank you. That stupid clip of shooting some mines with dragoons is sooooooo overrated. I mean it's a nice clip up until the end where he starts losing dragoons to mines anyway but come on...

...oh the person saying that it eclipses all modern games is a sAviOr fan. That explains it.
The original Bogus fan.
allanyushka
Profile Joined May 2019
3 Posts
May 14 2019 06:56 GMT
#32
I think the game improved every year. And the one that was good last year looks less attractive this year.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
May 14 2019 07:18 GMT
#33
The diversity of builds and APM has certainly dropped since back then. There's only two players who really still play exactly like they used to and it's Effort and Bisu. Sure, the basic level of standard macro has likely improved, but when you look at the level of micro and decisionmaking you can really tell they don't have coaches anymore. Maybe it's just because that level of micro isn't necessary to win, or maybe it's just the players we have around at the moment are not micro beasts, but the level of play has dropped in some respects.
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KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
May 14 2019 10:07 GMT
#34
The one where Bisu micoes his goons vs an impossible push of tanks and mines. And manages to snipe all the mines.

Please tell me that someone has saved that game in its entirety.
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8548 Posts
May 14 2019 14:28 GMT
#35
Surely the power-outage game was the pinnacle of BW and it's a shame it ended like this...
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-14 20:03:28
May 14 2019 19:57 GMT
#36
On May 14 2019 11:33 Turbovolver wrote:...oh the person saying that it eclipses all modern games is a sAviOr fan. That explains it.

Another day I watched old sAviOr's game and noticed a moment when he was flying over the terran's base with his mutastack. One moment he suddenly faced a lonely marine which wasn't supposed to be there (forgotten by a terran player or something), and sAviOr sniped him with his mutas not slowing for a split second or change route for a split degree.

You may not recognize such things and how difficult they are if you are not a zerg player or didn't practice muta micro much. But even then you can see how players like mIsO (decent modern zerg) lose a mutalisk or two just because of coming too close doing a hold position technique or missing shots because doing it too far away. Man, I can't imagine old KeSPA coaches to put a guy like this to play ZvT on Proleague.

I'm not a sAviOr's fan from 2005, I didn't even see most of his games from those times and started to watch in 2008. But my point is that if you can't see the perfection the old pros had which the modern players do not have, maybe you just prefer to rather chat on Twitch than actually watch the games carefully. Of course meta shifted much and modern players have much more basic knowledge to work with, but the way they execute it IMHO is miles below from what it used to be.

That said, I still watch almost every single ASL and KSL game.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-15 01:49:22
May 15 2019 01:48 GMT
#37
On May 14 2019 19:07 KungKras wrote:
The one where Bisu micoes his goons vs an impossible push of tanks and mines. And manages to snipe all the mines.

Please tell me that someone has saved that game in its entirety.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMH_q6jQbOo

hmm why isnt it embedding but ya either way it is this game, bisu vs flash on HBR, some of the best micro you'll ever see
POGGERS
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
May 15 2019 02:35 GMT
#38
On May 15 2019 04:57 kaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 11:33 Turbovolver wrote:...oh the person saying that it eclipses all modern games is a sAviOr fan. That explains it.

Another day I watched old sAviOr's game and noticed a moment when he was flying over the terran's base with his mutastack. One moment he suddenly faced a lonely marine which wasn't supposed to be there (forgotten by a terran player or something), and sAviOr sniped him with his mutas not slowing for a split second or change route for a split degree.

You may not recognize such things and how difficult they are if you are not a zerg player or didn't practice muta micro much. But even then you can see how players like mIsO (decent modern zerg) lose a mutalisk or two just because of coming too close doing a hold position technique or missing shots because doing it too far away. Man, I can't imagine old KeSPA coaches to put a guy like this to play ZvT on Proleague.

I'm not a sAviOr's fan from 2005, I didn't even see most of his games from those times and started to watch in 2008. But my point is that if you can't see the perfection the old pros had which the modern players do not have, maybe you just prefer to rather chat on Twitch than actually watch the games carefully. Of course meta shifted much and modern players have much more basic knowledge to work with, but the way they execute it IMHO is miles below from what it used to be.

That said, I still watch almost every single ASL and KSL game.

This is a very confused post. Assuming I am incapable of appreciating true skill (and gross, suggesting I enjoy Twitch chat) all because one time, sAviOr did a really good job of killing a single marine.

Are there any good games of sAviOr still around to watch on Youtube? I'd like to watch one that a fan would say really demonstrates his abilities.

sAviOr to me is the guy who got embarrassed by FBH's battlecruisers* and match fixed because he started to get overtaken by better players. But this is an open invitation for his fans to link me a game that might change my mind.


* Given the proliferation of this strategy in modern TvZ I would like to instead nominate that FBH was a genius ahead of his time
The original Bogus fan.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 15 2019 02:53 GMT
#39
On May 15 2019 11:35 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2019 04:57 kaby wrote:
On May 14 2019 11:33 Turbovolver wrote:...oh the person saying that it eclipses all modern games is a sAviOr fan. That explains it.

Another day I watched old sAviOr's game and noticed a moment when he was flying over the terran's base with his mutastack. One moment he suddenly faced a lonely marine which wasn't supposed to be there (forgotten by a terran player or something), and sAviOr sniped him with his mutas not slowing for a split second or change route for a split degree.

You may not recognize such things and how difficult they are if you are not a zerg player or didn't practice muta micro much. But even then you can see how players like mIsO (decent modern zerg) lose a mutalisk or two just because of coming too close doing a hold position technique or missing shots because doing it too far away. Man, I can't imagine old KeSPA coaches to put a guy like this to play ZvT on Proleague.

I'm not a sAviOr's fan from 2005, I didn't even see most of his games from those times and started to watch in 2008. But my point is that if you can't see the perfection the old pros had which the modern players do not have, maybe you just prefer to rather chat on Twitch than actually watch the games carefully. Of course meta shifted much and modern players have much more basic knowledge to work with, but the way they execute it IMHO is miles below from what it used to be.

That said, I still watch almost every single ASL and KSL game.

This is a very confused post. Assuming I am incapable of appreciating true skill (and gross, suggesting I enjoy Twitch chat) all because one time, sAviOr did a really good job of killing a single marine.

Are there any good games of sAviOr still around to watch on Youtube? I'd like to watch one that a fan would say really demonstrates his abilities.

sAviOr to me is the guy who got embarrassed by FBH's battlecruisers* and match fixed because he started to get overtaken by better players. But this is an open invitation for his fans to link me a game that might change my mind.


* Given the proliferation of this strategy in modern TvZ I would like to instead nominate that FBH was a genius ahead of his time

huge savior fan but also an objective one

the most recent accomplishment i can think of was him starting the whole simcity wall-in thing on tornado versus pusan, because i don't remember any zerg really doing this before he did.



memory fails me but i can't remember too much before this.

https://tl.net/forum/final-edits/226236-god-of-the-battlefield-part-1

this is a great summary of why he's known as one of the greatest of all time. despite what he did afterwards and how he slumped, we cannot take away what he accomplished and how.
POGGERS
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13113 Posts
May 15 2019 10:16 GMT
#40
Way back in the day when Boxer was destroying everyone at his peak, there was a cool game where he went cloaked wraith and medic/optic flare against a Zerg. Optic flared all the ovies and wrecked the poor Zerg like it was nothing.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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