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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
July 13 2018 19:38 GMT
#41
On July 13 2018 02:00 dsadsadsa0 wrote:
Video of the group draw here. Cool to see all these pros in the same room, has some English subtitles, too.



That was an awesome watch, thanks for the link
Hi.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway771 Posts
July 13 2018 21:35 GMT
#42
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote:
I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW...
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days.

I do and I'm gonna watch ever single one of them :D
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 23:31:41
July 13 2018 23:23 GMT
#43
my predictions for round 1 of games are
last
rain
snow
sharp
soulkey
light
horang2
best

hmm is it bad manner to post prediction?
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
July 14 2018 00:24 GMT
#44
Is it actually going to be all bo5s?I thought it was going to be regular double elimination. If they're going to be doing 5x3-5 matches, that's insane.

I'm not too sure about those dates though, where were you getting this from? On the announcement pages (https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/about/), The dates they've given are 4 weeks from July 19 to Aug 27 to complete the group stage, twice a week. So I guess that means each group will be finished over two nights? First night they play the first 2-3 Bo5s, and the other day finish the rest?

That's the only way I can concieve of them doing it because doing potentially 25 games in a single night and then 25 the next night is pure insanity, one player could concievably end up playing 15 games in a row which is just not possible.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-14 02:06:29
July 14 2018 02:02 GMT
#45
On July 14 2018 09:24 Wonk wrote:
Is it actually going to be all bo5s?I thought it was going to be regular double elimination. If they're going to be doing 5x3-5 matches, that's insane.

I'm not too sure about those dates though, where were you getting this from? On the announcement pages (https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/about/), The dates they've given are 4 weeks from July 19 to Aug 27 to complete the group stage, twice a week. So I guess that means each group will be finished over two nights? First night they play the first 2-3 Bo5s, and the other day finish the rest?

That's the only way I can concieve of them doing it because doing potentially 25 games in a single night and then 25 the next night is pure insanity, one player could concievably end up playing 15 games in a row which is just not possible.


It's 2 bo5's per night.

It will probably be opening 2 matches for each group for the first 2 weeks. Winners & Losers matches per group for the following 2 weeks, and the final matches in the 5th week.
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
July 14 2018 06:48 GMT
#46
On July 14 2018 11:02 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 09:24 Wonk wrote:
Is it actually going to be all bo5s?I thought it was going to be regular double elimination. If they're going to be doing 5x3-5 matches, that's insane.

I'm not too sure about those dates though, where were you getting this from? On the announcement pages (https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/about/), The dates they've given are 4 weeks from July 19 to Aug 27 to complete the group stage, twice a week. So I guess that means each group will be finished over two nights? First night they play the first 2-3 Bo5s, and the other day finish the rest?

That's the only way I can concieve of them doing it because doing potentially 25 games in a single night and then 25 the next night is pure insanity, one player could concievably end up playing 15 games in a row which is just not possible.


It's 2 bo5's per night.

It will probably be opening 2 matches for each group for the first 2 weeks. Winners & Losers matches per group for the following 2 weeks, and the final matches in the 5th week.


Yes, this sounds much more sensible, so each player gets a rest between bo5s. This feels like a really good system, I think I prefer this to the bo1 double elims in ASL. And I see now about the weeks, I had to look at a calendar, my brain couldn't work out july19 to aug17 = 10 nights.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
July 14 2018 07:50 GMT
#47
On July 13 2018 12:17 bovienchien wrote:
We have 5 weeks for Ro16

Week 1:
Group A, B

Week 2:
Group C, D

Week 3:
Winners' and Losers' match
Group A, B

Week 4:
Winners' and Losers' match
Group C, D

Week 5:
Final match
Group A, B, C, D

Every day, we have 2 best of 5 matches

Thank you for the information
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
July 14 2018 08:09 GMT
#48
Sad no Flash like everyone else, but hyped as fuck regardless. I also didn't know hero went to the military, which is a shame because I feel like there might not be many strong zergs left pretty soon :/ poor JD is hindered by his physical issues and may not stick armuch much longer.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
July 14 2018 08:09 GMT
#49
On July 14 2018 16:50 tanngard wrote:
Thank you for the information

It's just my guess. Maybe, it's:

Week 3:
Winners' match
Group A, B, C, D

Week 4:
Losers' match
Group A, B, C, D

I wonder, what's map pool and will bo5 have 5 or 4 maps?
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LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina246 Posts
July 14 2018 09:16 GMT
#50
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote:
I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW...
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days.




So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw".
You sure are enthusiastic huh
Standard Queens
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3701 Posts
July 14 2018 10:37 GMT
#51
On July 14 2018 18:16 LocoBolon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote:
I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW...
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days.




So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw".
You sure are enthusiastic huh


Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched.
MarcoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany146 Posts
July 14 2018 10:47 GMT
#52
On July 14 2018 19:37 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 18:16 LocoBolon wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote:
I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW...
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days.




So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw".
You sure are enthusiastic huh


Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched.


How is this math working? ASL Groupstage had one group a day with 5xBo1. Thus five games. 2xBo5 can at max be 10 games. That would at max double the amount of games. But at least you get rid of the setup time which you have for every Bo1 in ASL Groupstage. So for a Bo5 to conclude you have 3-5 games. Avg is 4, so its 8 games for a set which are 3 games more than in ASL groupstage on avg. Thats probably 1hr more of casting, especially if you consider the smaller total setup time for the players.
It's so easy to laugh, It's so easy to hate, It takes guts to be gentle and kind.
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
July 14 2018 23:44 GMT
#53
no flash no watch
I like Dark
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway771 Posts
July 15 2018 11:21 GMT
#54
On July 14 2018 19:37 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 18:16 LocoBolon wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote:
I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW...
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days.




So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw".
You sure are enthusiastic huh


Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched.

Empathy? Oh please, you're just whininh
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1025 Posts
July 15 2018 12:25 GMT
#55
I mean HotS has 8+ hour streams three times a week for HGC. BW just always had short broadcast days due to BO1, I don't mind them being longer.
Duceman
Profile Joined June 2018
United States87 Posts
July 15 2018 19:36 GMT
#56
Jaedong fighting!!
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
July 15 2018 20:26 GMT
#57
On July 14 2018 19:37 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 18:16 LocoBolon wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote:
I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW...
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days.




So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw".
You sure are enthusiastic huh


Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched.


I'm pretty sure Tasteless and Artosis are more than happy to cast all that Brood War. These games are gonna be sick!

Besides, the only possible downside I see is if it ends up being a TvT Bo5. Most Bo5 don't actually go that long I find.
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dlsgud1232
Profile Joined June 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-07-16 01:26:02
July 16 2018 01:24 GMT
#58
Flash Chinese Events
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
July 16 2018 07:37 GMT
#59
I see that Blizzard still shilling SC2 hard by using BW as a sort of tie-up, brand ambassador type thing. In a perfect world I hope BW would just sell it to the Korean government or something lol
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 16 2018 17:55 GMT
#60
Are we complaining about Bo5 double elimination? I've been waiting for this tournament format for years. This is fantastic.
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