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hhkx
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada757 Posts
May 07 2007 13:30 GMT
#101
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?


well, he did win a WCG title.
Tarte
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada933 Posts
May 07 2007 13:31 GMT
#102
On May 07 2007 11:04 VioleTAK wrote:
July would really fit right into ACE, he should join the army :-)



Rofl, yeah he should for multiple reasons :D!
L O V E Y O U
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
May 07 2007 13:32 GMT
#103
On May 07 2007 22:30 hhkx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?


well, he did win a WCG title.


wrong
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 07 2007 13:33 GMT
#104
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


/twitch
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
hhkx
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada757 Posts
May 07 2007 14:23 GMT
#105
On May 07 2007 22:32 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 22:30 hhkx wrote:
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?


well, he did win a WCG title.


wrong


oops, i meant he finished 2nd, considering how hard it is to qualify from korea.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 07 2007 14:50 GMT
#106
On May 07 2007 18:55 himurakenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 11:26 SuperJongMan wrote:
KTFfffffff, They need a Zerg on KTF so bad...


The two most accomplished (in terms of MSL and OSL wins) zergs in the history of starcraft is on KTF ...

how do you become the most accomplished OSL zerg with 0 wins??
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 07 2007 14:55 GMT
#107
July is the reason why Zergs don't always 12 hatch against Terrans. July reinvented the way 9 pool Zergs played.

July is like a living legend. If MBC and July don't quickly reconcile, I'm pretty sure some other team will offer the kind of money that July would agree to. People say that it would be freaking gay if he goes to a big team like SKT Telecom T1. Cool. SK Telecom T1 gets a strong Zerg, MBC Game Hero loses a strong Zerg. The other teams haven't changed.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-07 15:01:28
May 07 2007 14:56 GMT
#108
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?

disregarding 2006/2007 results, july is a better player than chojja, hands down.

within the last 12 months, casy has won an OSL while oov fell out of both leagues and did relatively nothing. if i were in charge of a team, i'd still take oov over casy.

in the same sense, i'd take july over chojja any day.

edit: btw you can't just use the fact that july hasn't done anything in 2007 as an argument cuz chojja hasn't done anything either lol.

and wtf? what dominant winning streak? winning a bunch of zvzs? letting savior take care of oov 5-0 in the MSL while just getting through by winning zvzs? how about in the OSL? winning a bunch of zvzs in that zerg-filled OSL just to lose so easily to casy? yea chojja won about 5000 zvzs in 2006. hes the man alrite...most dominant winning streak.

yes, chojja did very well in 2006, but to say he racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks by winning a bunch of zvzs is stupid. if anyone racked up a winning streak in 2006 it was savior. he dominated everyone, every matchup with the exception of his 2 losses to chojja. zvt zvp and most of his zvzs. thats a winning streak.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
intelinside
Profile Joined February 2007
United States982 Posts
May 07 2007 15:36 GMT
#109
On May 07 2007 23:56 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?

disregarding 2006/2007 results, july is a better player than chojja, hands down.

within the last 12 months, casy has won an OSL while oov fell out of both leagues and did relatively nothing. if i were in charge of a team, i'd still take oov over casy.

in the same sense, i'd take july over chojja any day.

edit: btw you can't just use the fact that july hasn't done anything in 2007 as an argument cuz chojja hasn't done anything either lol.

and wtf? what dominant winning streak? winning a bunch of zvzs? letting savior take care of oov 5-0 in the MSL while just getting through by winning zvzs? how about in the OSL? winning a bunch of zvzs in that zerg-filled OSL just to lose so easily to casy? yea chojja won about 5000 zvzs in 2006. hes the man alrite...most dominant winning streak.

yes, chojja did very well in 2006, but to say he racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks by winning a bunch of zvzs is stupid. if anyone racked up a winning streak in 2006 it was savior. he dominated everyone, every matchup with the exception of his 2 losses to chojja. zvt zvp and most of his zvzs. thats a winning streak.

i'd take july over chojja ne day too.
hihihihihi
Victor
Profile Joined November 2005
New Zealand1016 Posts
May 07 2007 16:05 GMT
#110
Chojja was overrated even when he was ranked 1 on kespa -_-;
Got to remember kespa changed their way of ranking (forgot it it was after chojja lost his #1 kespa or before)
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-07 17:16:30
May 07 2007 17:13 GMT
#111
On May 07 2007 18:49 funKie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 18:46 intelinside wrote:
On May 07 2007 18:26 il0seonpurpose wrote:
I wouldn't even care how much I'm getting paid, as long as its ok, I mean they provide you with good housing, A NICE COMPUTER and ok food. If your team wins, you get some huge celebration.


And who did julyzerg play at last years proleagues finals and did he win?

he beat Oov with pure lings. good game


That game was pure abuse of micro and intelligence by July.

Oov couldn't have done anything different to stop July.
no, oov just lost his blocking stuff stupidly, and it was pretty close a mistake. no idea how it would have turned out had oov not lose his medic
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
May 07 2007 17:48 GMT
#112
On May 07 2007 23:56 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?

disregarding 2006/2007 results, july is a better player than chojja, hands down.

within the last 12 months, casy has won an OSL while oov fell out of both leagues and did relatively nothing. if i were in charge of a team, i'd still take oov over casy.

in the same sense, i'd take july over chojja any day.

edit: btw you can't just use the fact that july hasn't done anything in 2007 as an argument cuz chojja hasn't done anything either lol.

and wtf? what dominant winning streak? winning a bunch of zvzs? letting savior take care of oov 5-0 in the MSL while just getting through by winning zvzs? how about in the OSL? winning a bunch of zvzs in that zerg-filled OSL just to lose so easily to casy? yea chojja won about 5000 zvzs in 2006. hes the man alrite...most dominant winning streak.

yes, chojja did very well in 2006, but to say he racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks by winning a bunch of zvzs is stupid. if anyone racked up a winning streak in 2006 it was savior. he dominated everyone, every matchup with the exception of his 2 losses to chojja. zvt zvp and most of his zvzs. thats a winning streak.



o shit its on:O
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
May 07 2007 17:53 GMT
#113
zzz please dont turn this into a tfeign <3's chojja vs. the world thread.
Commentator
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
May 07 2007 18:04 GMT
#114
Anyone who asks, "what would he do with so much money anyway?" is missing the point. If that's the case, we might as well all live on a dollar a day. It's about earning what you think you're worth - self satisfaction and a feeling of selfworth. If you went to Harvard and majored in political science, I don't think you'd be happy mopping the floor at MacDonalds.

For some reason, I think he'll end up at CJ. Wasn't it Xellos who helped refine his playstyle when he first appeared on the pro-gaming circuit? I've heard that they're quite close.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 07 2007 18:15 GMT
#115
it really depends on frontoffice workings more than player preferences.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
May 07 2007 20:25 GMT
#116
i'd choose july over chojja any day
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-07 22:19:00
May 07 2007 22:16 GMT
#117
On May 07 2007 22:33 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


/twitch


All Jinho does is stay greasy and play poker, lose money, and lose at Starcraft.
He can't even make survivor or ODT very well nonetheless a real Starleague.
He doesn't even win in PL and KTF really keeps him around because... well...
They keep him around for people like you. His fans.

However, watching CHRH defeat Bisu was ... LOL, maybe Jinho can pull off a crazy game, but he should really join Ace too - -;; Get his ass done with the army and become a real progamer instead of former pro with good looks. Grr had the sense to pull out before ruining his image, Yellow, when he retires is gonna be like HOT's retirement but with more fangirls T.T's.

Chojja is KTF's best Zerg and last year was pretty good, although his impact was shit compared to how much Savior changed Z as a race and Chojja's style being quite different from Savior's...

And lol -_-;; tfeign.... Chojja is good, but July is better. My opinion, argue all you want, /ignore.
I'll just say MBC wouldn't have won PL without July. And where was Chojja last OSL?
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
May 07 2007 22:37 GMT
#118
0-3 in group stage? :s only to follow 0-2 in ODT ro48 vs hiya[fou] errrrrrrrrrrrr

chojja is a cool gnome who can surely play good, but july is the god of war and would eat chojja any day, any hour
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 07 2007 23:00 GMT
#119
On May 07 2007 21:54 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 18:58 SuperJongMan wrote:
No. July was MBC and Savior is CJ.
Chojja and Yellow do not cut it atm. KTF has no ace level Zerg, or I guess Chojja is their ace Zerg...
And July fits well with KTF's Zergs.


In 2006 Chojja won an MSL, top 2 OSL; racked up one of the most dominant winning streaks; was the only player to have beaten Savior in a series, and not just once but twice; rated as the best zerg by Kespa for months; rated as best overall player by Kespa for months; ranked top 2/3 for most of the remainder.

In 2006 July accomplished nothing.

In 2007 July accomplished nothing.

July has done nothing notable since 2005. What exactly makes Chojja "not cut it", while July does?


Easy... one can easily imagine July beating the top terrans in high tension games... Chojja? not really.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
May 07 2007 23:56 GMT
#120
SJM stated that chojja doesnt make the cut but july does.
tfeign responded by saying that chojja has had a stronger presence in 06/07 than july has.

wheres the problem here? why are we jumping all over tfeign?
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