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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 16:09:09
December 04 2017 16:06 GMT
#141
Ya'll remind me of a bunch old ladies sitting in their windows with binoculars. You WANT drama so bad.

Gonna catch my flight I woke up at 4am for
Now.. casted 22 hours in 2 days and people want me to feel bad because they think I was mad when I wasn't. Ok.. not really a huge mystery why people are so annoyed by bw fans
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
December 04 2017 16:09 GMT
#142
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 16:10 GMT
#143
On December 05 2017 01:03 iNcontroL wrote:
Larva was mad someone was trolling him? Oh man.. I feel so bad for
Him! Hope he wasn't embarrassed y'know?

This. I wouldn't pay too much attention to people propagating this idea in the thread and on the reddit... To be honest, as someone who doesn't know you, I thought you were mad as well.

I think it's so easy for a false idea to continuously get propagated on a forum that it's not worth being taken seriously.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 16:12 GMT
#144
On December 05 2017 01:09 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!

So you're criticizing them for making the correct decision because you THINK there won't be anything else to follow this up with..?

Am I getting this right? I'm pretty sure you should read Incontrol's comment just above yours.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 16:15:28
December 04 2017 16:14 GMT
#145
Well, this is a competitive world, and I hope you will say the same thing when Beijing nukes Seoul or Copenhagen.

Dumbest post in the whole thread.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
December 04 2017 16:15 GMT
#146
On December 05 2017 01:06 iNcontroL wrote:
Ya'll remind me of a bunch old ladies sitting in their windows with binoculars. You WANT drama so bad.

Gonna catch my flight I woke up at 4am for
Now.. casted 22 hours in 2 days and people want me to feel bad because they think I was mad when I wasn't. Ok.. not really a huge mystery why people are so annoyed by bw fans


The only people annoyed with BW fans are SC2 fans, but the annoyance is mutual.

Also it is rare these days to get grade S drama.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
December 04 2017 16:20 GMT
#147
On December 05 2017 01:12 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 01:09 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!

So you're criticizing them for making the correct decision because you THINK there won't be anything else to follow this up with..?

Am I getting this right? I'm pretty sure you should read Incontrol's comment just above yours.


Why are you the one getting offended here lmao

And no, for the third time no i do not think they made the wrong decision. It's less of a criticism and more of an observation of amusement.

Let's be real here dawg, I love BW and would love another live tournament of this scale, but thinking that ZOTAC was planning on another tournament given the current level of interest and activity in the game is just daydreaming.

But hey like I stated previously, now ZOTAC has a reason to keep making more ZOTAC cups: to have more tournaments to ban Larva from haha

JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
December 04 2017 16:20 GMT
#148
On December 05 2017 00:08 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 23:48 Wintex wrote:
I don't think there would be 1 reaction if he did it to one of the other foreigners. It's just the chinese honor culture that makes it way more extra. It's honestly too good tho. If you lose to toes and nukes, it's a god damn shame, but it's a showmatch and nothing more.


The "Chinese culture" argument doesn't make any sense either. I am all for the Chinese people's right to have any culture they want (as long as it is remotely compatible with basic human rights) - but that just means that they are supposed to act like that. You can't just say "my culture is that I get a benefit X" and then expect people to give you this benefit - in this case not making fun of you. It just doesn't make any sense. It's actually pretty interesting that we have the same problem in the West (with so many offense-taking groups) as they have in the East, shows how the human nature is universal.

Well you can choose to deliberately act culturally insensitive but it will just create problems for yourself if you are interacting with people from different cultures. Same as it did for larva now, being banned from all future zotac events.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 16:31:56
December 04 2017 16:29 GMT
#149
On December 05 2017 01:20 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 01:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:09 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!

So you're criticizing them for making the correct decision because you THINK there won't be anything else to follow this up with..?

Am I getting this right? I'm pretty sure you should read Incontrol's comment just above yours.


Why are you the one getting offended here lmao

And no, for the third time no i do not think they made the wrong decision. It's less of a criticism and more of an observation of amusement.

Let's be real here dawg, I love BW and would love another live tournament of this scale, but thinking that ZOTAC was planning on another tournament given the current level of interest and activity in the game is just daydreaming.

But hey like I stated previously, now ZOTAC has a reason to keep making more ZOTAC cups: to have more tournaments to ban Larva from haha


I apologize for saying that you should respect a sponsor and organization that:

1) Put on a great event
2) Put up $35K in prizepool
3) Brought all of the players in at the organization's expense
4) Listened to community feedback and adjusted their event for the best player experience

I guess you're right here, I should just allow you to openly disrespect them without commenting, because it makes sense to do so. I'm not mad, but you should be embarrassed.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
December 04 2017 16:34 GMT
#150
On December 05 2017 01:29 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 01:20 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:09 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!

So you're criticizing them for making the correct decision because you THINK there won't be anything else to follow this up with..?

Am I getting this right? I'm pretty sure you should read Incontrol's comment just above yours.


Why are you the one getting offended here lmao

And no, for the third time no i do not think they made the wrong decision. It's less of a criticism and more of an observation of amusement.

Let's be real here dawg, I love BW and would love another live tournament of this scale, but thinking that ZOTAC was planning on another tournament given the current level of interest and activity in the game is just daydreaming.

But hey like I stated previously, now ZOTAC has a reason to keep making more ZOTAC cups: to have more tournaments to ban Larva from haha


I apologize for saying that you should respect a sponsor and organization that:

1) Put on a great event
2) Put up $35K in prizepool
3) Brought all of the players in at the organization's expense
4) Listened to community feedback and adjusted their event for the best player experience

I guess you're right here, I should just allow you to openly disrespect that without commenting, because it makes sense to do so.


? I think they did a great job too lol; go ahead and read my previous posts: have i said anything negative about the tournament games, the production value, the prize pool, the fact that we even had this tournament?

the only one i'm disrespecting and criticizing here is you and your posts. and by disrespect and criticizing i mean pointing out that i'm not upset at ZOTAC or think they're doing anything wrong (even if it's slightly pointless), but for some reason you're getting personally upset about this.

go find someone who actually is shitting on this tournament and be mad at him and not me lmao
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
December 04 2017 16:37 GMT
#151
Lol Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a famous internet personality without the problems. Guess I should start saying I'm just being deadpan... when I don't want to own up to my true emotions.. Arty.. was amused by it.. Day9... looked perplexed and in awe... inc.. well he was deadpan.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 16:38 GMT
#152
On December 05 2017 01:34 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 01:29 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:20 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:09 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!

So you're criticizing them for making the correct decision because you THINK there won't be anything else to follow this up with..?

Am I getting this right? I'm pretty sure you should read Incontrol's comment just above yours.


Why are you the one getting offended here lmao

And no, for the third time no i do not think they made the wrong decision. It's less of a criticism and more of an observation of amusement.

Let's be real here dawg, I love BW and would love another live tournament of this scale, but thinking that ZOTAC was planning on another tournament given the current level of interest and activity in the game is just daydreaming.

But hey like I stated previously, now ZOTAC has a reason to keep making more ZOTAC cups: to have more tournaments to ban Larva from haha


I apologize for saying that you should respect a sponsor and organization that:

1) Put on a great event
2) Put up $35K in prizepool
3) Brought all of the players in at the organization's expense
4) Listened to community feedback and adjusted their event for the best player experience

I guess you're right here, I should just allow you to openly disrespect that without commenting, because it makes sense to do so.


? I think they did a great job too lol; go ahead and read my previous posts: have i said anything negative about the tournament games, the production value, the prize pool, the fact that we even had this tournament?

the only one i'm disrespecting and criticizing here is you and your posts. and by disrespect and criticizing i mean pointing out that i'm not upset at ZOTAC or think they're doing anything wrong (even if it's slightly pointless), but for some reason you're getting personally upset about this.

go find someone who actually is shitting on this tournament and be mad at him and not me lmao


On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

This is the definition of respect.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
December 04 2017 16:40 GMT
#153
On December 05 2017 01:37 rel wrote:
Lol Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a famous internet personality without the problems. Guess I should start saying I'm just being deadpan... when I don't want to own up to my true emotions.. Arty.. was amused by it.. Day9... looked perplexed and in awe... inc.. well he was deadpan.

Brood War fans really are the worst
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
December 04 2017 16:42 GMT
#154
This is mild... you guys are just out of touch with reality..
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
thinkinger
Profile Joined December 2017
21 Posts
December 04 2017 16:42 GMT
#155
On December 04 2017 19:34 Invidentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 18:37 thinkinger wrote:
On December 04 2017 17:43 Invidentia wrote:
Are people seriously this salty? Larva made a show out of a showmatch.

As for people whining saying Larva should show respect, fuck that. It's a competitive game and you don't have to respect opponents you can literally beat playing with your foot. Like someone said above respect is earned if you want to be respected by top korean pros how about you become able to beat them playing with their feet first then they might not toy with you like that. This drama is ridiculous the only thing that was hurt was legend's and possibly china's pride. If they are so mad then use it as inspiration and try to improve to "take revenge".


Well, this is a competitive world, and I hope you will say the same thing when Beijing nukes Seoul or Copenhagen.



Lol I am shaking. Some nerd threatening with the power of the chinese military. I'm sure the communist party is focused on the huge area of BW and is itching to take revenge with their nuclear might.


Interesting but perhaps not surprising you don't understand a simple post. As a part of the BW community, I hope everyone enjoys the game, including LX and all gamers that do not have skills of former Korean progamers, just like as a human being, I hope everyone enjoys his/her life in a competitive world. Since in both BW and the real world, there are tons of people better than you, I think your are the one who should prepare for a revenge, or a ton of revenges, following your own logic.
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
December 04 2017 16:45 GMT
#156
On December 05 2017 01:38 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 01:34 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:29 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:20 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 01:09 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

What are you even talking about?

This is so disrespectful towards an organization that put on one hell of a tournament this weekend. The production value was great, the games were good, the cast was excellent.

Given, the qualifiers were a learning curve, but this is 1000% the correct decision by ZOTAC.


i don't disagree with anything you just said on its face; it's the PR right moves

what i was pointing out was the futility of it when there weren't even going to be any tournaments to ban larva from in the future.

it's a great PR move though!!

So you're criticizing them for making the correct decision because you THINK there won't be anything else to follow this up with..?

Am I getting this right? I'm pretty sure you should read Incontrol's comment just above yours.


Why are you the one getting offended here lmao

And no, for the third time no i do not think they made the wrong decision. It's less of a criticism and more of an observation of amusement.

Let's be real here dawg, I love BW and would love another live tournament of this scale, but thinking that ZOTAC was planning on another tournament given the current level of interest and activity in the game is just daydreaming.

But hey like I stated previously, now ZOTAC has a reason to keep making more ZOTAC cups: to have more tournaments to ban Larva from haha


I apologize for saying that you should respect a sponsor and organization that:

1) Put on a great event
2) Put up $35K in prizepool
3) Brought all of the players in at the organization's expense
4) Listened to community feedback and adjusted their event for the best player experience

I guess you're right here, I should just allow you to openly disrespect that without commenting, because it makes sense to do so.


? I think they did a great job too lol; go ahead and read my previous posts: have i said anything negative about the tournament games, the production value, the prize pool, the fact that we even had this tournament?

the only one i'm disrespecting and criticizing here is you and your posts. and by disrespect and criticizing i mean pointing out that i'm not upset at ZOTAC or think they're doing anything wrong (even if it's slightly pointless), but for some reason you're getting personally upset about this.

go find someone who actually is shitting on this tournament and be mad at him and not me lmao


Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 00:40 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
jokes on zotac; what's the point of banning someone from your tournaments when weren't planning on hosting anymore of them anyways?

larva saves SC:R by spitting the chinese into hosting more tournaments just to ban him indefinitely from them?!

This is the definition of respect.


just be glad i only made amusement of ZOTACs decision instead of criticizing and pointing out the flaws of their tournament like i've done with your posts; if I had done that to ZOTAC you'd be a lot more unhappy
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 17:09:28
December 04 2017 17:03 GMT
#157
I think it’s pretty much inarguable that what Larva did was rude and disrespectful given that his opponent was not in on the joke. It’s patently obvious that it will be insulting in these circumstances. I don’t think Larva was being malicious, but it really reflects poorly on his self-judgment that this wasn’t apparent to him.

What does amaze me is the level of vitriol we’re seeing in the defenses put forward for Larva by various people in this thread and elsewhere. The most common seems to be that Larva’s antics made the series more entertaining and that Lx would have lost anyways. Well, no shit? What’s that got to do with whether it was rude or insulting or offensive? Larva does these things on his stream all the time, but that’s a different context than doing it in a livecasted LAN showmatch where *everyone* knows he is the overwhelming favorite and where he has basically been given a free trip to the US to be handed a $10k check. Another is "maybe Lx should have won if he didn't like it" or "maybe Lx should get good instead of crying." Again...???? What's that got to do with whether it was insulting or rude?

It seems incredibly difficult for some people to hold these two ideas in their mind simultaneously: that what Larva did was rude, but that they also found it entertaining. I guess the conclusion that follows--that you enjoyed something that many found to be meanspirited--is too much to admit? Therefore Larva was entirely justified and there is no issue whatsoever despite the objective fact that there seems to be a 50/50 split between that opinion and the opinion that it was rude and insulting? (and again--it doesn't need to be a split, because the two ideas can exist simultaneously). Come on.

I honestly feel like if you can’t see this you’re either still a teenager who’s never had to interact in the adult world or you’re the kind of person who is completely socially oblivious and is a pain in the ass for those in your social orbit.
TL+ Member
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
December 04 2017 17:23 GMT
#158
Like it or not, we got to see BW on the front page of reddit today, so thats a good thing.
DJ, put it back on!
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
December 04 2017 17:26 GMT
#159
On December 05 2017 02:03 Chrysanthemum wrote:I honestly feel like if you can’t see this you’re either still a teenager who’s never had to interact in the adult world or you’re the kind of person who is completely socially oblivious and is a pain in the ass for those in your social orbit.
Is this any different than FBH dancing around sAviOr? Or the pylon heart?
AManHasNoName
Profile Joined September 2017
United States165 Posts
December 04 2017 17:30 GMT
#160
All this talk about “disrespect” is incredibly silly. I feel like I’m back in high school.
“To love the journey is to accept no such end. I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one.”
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