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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 04 2017 19:53 GMT
#201
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say, lost any respect i had for Chinese players) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up. go ahead ban everyone better than you who can style on you, soon the tourny will be Chinese only


You realize that the two most popular esports, League and Dota2, have much higher standards for their pros? Riot and Valve regularly ban pros and streamers for BM behavior.
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
December 04 2017 19:55 GMT
#202
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
disrespect is part of competition

This comment alone speaks volumes on your maturity level. People like you shouldn't be allowed to compete, to be honest.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 04 2017 19:55 GMT
#203
On December 05 2017 04:48 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:45 thisisbooty wrote:
On December 05 2017 04:42 Endymion wrote:
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up.

kespa would have done the same thing, as would any korean tournament of note. for all of FBH's notoriety he didn't pull anything like this

you are right, but they wouldnt call the player and the fans of player "mentally ill", and i disagree with if they would do it too. people who don't have the balls to get shit on in a competitive zone they CHOSE to be in (no matter how disrespectfully) shouldn't be competing.

people who compete are there to compete... if you play against the best player in the world, they don't owe you any mercy in a competitive sense, but that doesn't give gosus a free pass to disregard dignity. i take it when you're on the ladder and a d- peruvian joins your game you just let loose on him? what's the point, we're all playing broodwar here.. take out your angst on the sc2 players instead

some people really take pride in beating vastly inferior opposition. Sport and competition for them is not about being the best among equals, but simply finding someone who's worse.
Michael Probu
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 04 2017 19:55 GMT
#204
On December 05 2017 04:53 iamho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say, lost any respect i had for Chinese players) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up. go ahead ban everyone better than you who can style on you, soon the tourny will be Chinese only


You realize that the two most popular esports, League and Dota2, have much higher standards for their pros? Riot and Valve regularly ban pros and streamers for BM behavior.


they also ban people for """bm behavior""" on the ladders, which is absurd to me, but doing shit like this in a broadcasted event is insane. i really, REALLY disagree with how modern esports coddles people. i don't consider this coddling larva though, the guy is absurdly bm even among bm players.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 04 2017 19:57 GMT
#205
On December 05 2017 04:53 iamho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say, lost any respect i had for Chinese players) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up. go ahead ban everyone better than you who can style on you, soon the tourny will be Chinese only


You realize that the two most popular esports, League and Dota2, have much higher standards for their pros? Riot and Valve regularly ban pros and streamers for BM behavior.

Slightly offtopic, but valve have never disciplined a professional player in any way for any action except matchfixing in Dota and afaik also in CSGO
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 04 2017 19:57 GMT
#206
On December 05 2017 04:53 iamho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say, lost any respect i had for Chinese players) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up. go ahead ban everyone better than you who can style on you, soon the tourny will be Chinese only


You realize that the two most popular esports, League and Dota2, have much higher standards for their pros? Riot and Valve regularly ban pros and streamers for BM behavior.

Valve certainly doesn't ban players for "BM behavior".
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 04 2017 19:57 GMT
#207
I like how he calls Larva "mentally ill", that's more offensive than anything larva did tbh.
Larva surely went a bit overboard with his bm i would agree with that. The problem i have is that zotac didn't do anything about it in the moment, it would have been easy to just pause the game and tell him to stop.
No they apparently were fine with larva's action until all the offended people in the world went onto the internet and started crying. Instant reaction after that. That's really bad in my eyes, i don't want to see people operating that way :/

So yes Larva was disrespectful, i still enjoyed it though. People like to get mad and organisations actually act on this outrage. That's the actual horrible thing here.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Nukid
Profile Joined April 2010
United States240 Posts
December 04 2017 19:57 GMT
#208
Larva is putting on a show for the viewers and it seems most love it. That is his personality.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 04 2017 19:58 GMT
#209
what about low priority and comm bans?
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
lisafrankgirl
Profile Joined February 2011
United States7 Posts
December 04 2017 20:00 GMT
#210
On December 05 2017 04:22 Kripkringle wrote:
You're a disingenuous douche thinkinger.

Your analogy doesn't even hold up.

You said you sent your kid to play baseball and older kids made fun of him.

Well larva is 10 years lx junior.

If I send my kid to play baseball, and he gets upset YOUNGER KIDS are making fun of him, that shows a lack of maturity in my kid(lx).

The youth always make fun of their elders, because they don't know what it's like to be older. The older person should have the maturity and wisdom step back and realize this isn't their time anymore, and they know what it's like to be brash and young.

Your position is fucked, and makes no god damned sense.

And if you want people to play your dogshit game from 20 years ago, maybe the barrier for entry shouldn't be MONTHS of grind just to be 3/10 at the game.

I can pick up the majority of fighting games and be proficient in a month tops. Most people can. Most games are designed to be that way.

But BW isn't. So fuck off.

User was banned for this post.


lol its so interesting how angry some people get about a game they dont even want to play
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 04 2017 20:01 GMT
#211
On December 05 2017 04:58 Endymion wrote:
what about low priority and comm bans?

I don't consider those relevant to the discussion of behaviour in a tournament setting since they have precisely no impact on any form of tournament, but pros are not exempt from that kind of discipline. It is however automated and they are not held to any different standard from every other account.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 04 2017 20:01 GMT
#212
On December 05 2017 04:57 Nukid wrote:
Larva is putting on a show for the viewers and it seems most love it. That is his personality.

he could play using his dong instead of his leg, that would've been 10 times the show. Whether something is entertaining for the masses and socially/culturally/ethically acceptable are largely unrelated (yet often inversely correlated) things.
Michael Probu
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 04 2017 20:02 GMT
#213
On December 05 2017 05:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:58 Endymion wrote:
what about low priority and comm bans?

I don't consider those relevant to the discussion of behaviour in a tournament setting since they have precisely no impact on any form of tournament, but pros are not exempt from that kind of discipline. It is however automated and they are not held to any different standard from every other account.

ah okay, i didn't know if there was a separate disciplinary board for higher ranked players/streamers
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 04 2017 20:05 GMT
#214
Larva is the best lmao
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 04 2017 20:09 GMT
#215
On December 05 2017 05:05 batsnacks wrote:
Larva is the best lmao

you misspelled Terror
Michael Probu
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37074 Posts
December 04 2017 20:10 GMT
#216
There are several threads floating around BW General that are all pertaining to the same topic. Let's keep it all in one thread for the sake of coherence.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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