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Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
December 04 2017 18:43 GMT
#181
The organizers have ample opportunity to correct this. They could have, for example, paused the game and asked Larva to behave.

I havent kept up with the BW scene for quite many years, so not sure what has changed. To see someone using their foot during the finals while afking a probe was rather amusing. Judging by some of the top comments on the reddit post (https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/7heywl/larva_plays_with_his_foot_in_the_grand_finals/), I think a who arent familiar with the scene would also agree with my line of thought.

Was a warning issued to Larva beforehand? No? Why not? Why would the production even show Larva playing with his foot if it is inappropriate? Because what he did was of interest?

So there was this "silent nod" from the organizers to allow this happen during a match. Bending over due to pressure from Chinese fans just make the organization look less... professional.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 18:50 GMT
#182
On December 05 2017 03:42 thinkinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 03:33 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 03:25 thinkinger wrote:
Not all publicity attracts people. People play games for fun. This publicity is giving people the impression that in this game, gamers frequently humiliate opponents of less skills, and others cheer for it. Then why would one play this game, especially it takes months or even years to just learn the basic skills?

To be fair, the teamliquid thread is giving that impression, the reddit thread seems to be much lighter, people are taking it as comedy. People who've never played starcraft or who haven't for years aren't jumping to the though "WOW WHAT A DISGRACE"... I think it's only BW people doing that.


They are not jumping to play the game either - everybody likes comedy, but nobody wants to be the one being humiliated in a comedy. Would you send your kids to learn baseball where older teammates tease him everyday?

Are you trying to say that's NOT what happens at baseball? That's what happens in every sport ever, especially at the level you're talking about.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
December 04 2017 18:56 GMT
#183
Larva misjudged the mood and created entertainment at the expense of Legend. Probably happened to everybody in the past that you teased a friend too much to the point that he actually got upset. Shit happens, but it's not cool and you should apologize afterwards if you failed to read the social situation.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 19:06:52
December 04 2017 19:05 GMT
#184
Whoever invited Larva to participate should have done their research and known that larva is an entertainer and a streamer. Anyone who has watched his stream for more than 30 minutes would have known that.
If they thought Larva might cause some kind of issue, distraction, rage, etc during the cast, the organizers should have discussed that with him. I don't blame Larva at all, he didn't know any better. Banning someone from future tournaments because they didn't know any better is a joke.
Also.. The "trolling" by incontrol in the last interview was super awkward and cringey to watch, as Larva had no idea Incontrol was trolling him.
Kripkringle
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
December 04 2017 19:06 GMT
#185
On December 05 2017 03:25 thinkinger wrote:
Not all publicity attracts people. People play games for fun. This publicity is giving people the impression that in this game, gamers frequently humiliate opponents of less skills, and others cheer for it. Then why would one play this game, especially it takes months or even years to just learn the basic skills?


Have you ever heard of fighting games?

If you don't want to put in the time and effort to stay good, you've forfeited the right to not be humiliated if you step up to the plate.

As a player you do not want "close games". You want to smash your opponent into the ground, make him cry uncle, and get those W's.

If anyone thinks that there is an expectation of a casual player(fun) to be as good as a pro, and is worried about being humiliated by them, I've got news for ya.

You will likely never play anyone even 1/100th as good as this dude, so don't worry, play the game, and stop being a fucking pussy who's worried about being "humiliated". As if a casual is going to be on stream vs larva.

Your position is fucked, and makes no sense.
thinkinger
Profile Joined December 2017
21 Posts
December 04 2017 19:06 GMT
#186
On December 05 2017 03:50 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 03:42 thinkinger wrote:
On December 05 2017 03:33 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 03:25 thinkinger wrote:
Not all publicity attracts people. People play games for fun. This publicity is giving people the impression that in this game, gamers frequently humiliate opponents of less skills, and others cheer for it. Then why would one play this game, especially it takes months or even years to just learn the basic skills?

To be fair, the teamliquid thread is giving that impression, the reddit thread seems to be much lighter, people are taking it as comedy. People who've never played starcraft or who haven't for years aren't jumping to the though "WOW WHAT A DISGRACE"... I think it's only BW people doing that.


They are not jumping to play the game either - everybody likes comedy, but nobody wants to be the one being humiliated in a comedy. Would you send your kids to learn baseball where older teammates tease him everyday?

Are you trying to say that's NOT what happens at baseball? That's what happens in every sport ever, especially at the level you're talking about.

Of course it happens. But people are not inspired by that to play a game, they play a game because it is interesting and they enjoy it. I would never ask my kids to play a game that they don't enjoy. If two games are both fun, one full of humiliation, the other full of friendly competition and joy, which would you choose? In fact, how many kids are joining BW, given there are so many other fun games?And do you really think they will be motivated just to be like Larva.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 19:12 GMT
#187
On December 05 2017 04:06 thinkinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 03:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 03:42 thinkinger wrote:
On December 05 2017 03:33 Eywa- wrote:
On December 05 2017 03:25 thinkinger wrote:
Not all publicity attracts people. People play games for fun. This publicity is giving people the impression that in this game, gamers frequently humiliate opponents of less skills, and others cheer for it. Then why would one play this game, especially it takes months or even years to just learn the basic skills?

To be fair, the teamliquid thread is giving that impression, the reddit thread seems to be much lighter, people are taking it as comedy. People who've never played starcraft or who haven't for years aren't jumping to the though "WOW WHAT A DISGRACE"... I think it's only BW people doing that.


They are not jumping to play the game either - everybody likes comedy, but nobody wants to be the one being humiliated in a comedy. Would you send your kids to learn baseball where older teammates tease him everyday?

Are you trying to say that's NOT what happens at baseball? That's what happens in every sport ever, especially at the level you're talking about.

Of course it happens. But people are not inspired by that to play a game, they play a game because it is interesting and they enjoy it. I would never ask my kids to play a game that they don't enjoy. If two games are both fun, one full of humiliation, the other full of friendly competition and joy, which would you choose? In fact, how many kids are joining BW, given there are so many other fun games?And do you really think they will be motivated just to be like Larva.

Does Joey Bats bat flip in game 5 of the ALDS detract people from playing baseball? No, it just leaves a bunch of salty old men in Texas. Who will still view/not view the game to the same extent as they always have.

I just wanted to say... This may become the most viewed Brood War event of all time. 434K viewers on that clip.

Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Kripkringle
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
December 04 2017 19:14 GMT
#188
They are not jumping to play the game either - everybody likes comedy, but nobody wants to be the one being humiliated in a comedy. Would you send your kids to learn baseball where older teammates tease him everyday? [/QUOTE]

That's because BW is an archaic sack of shit. Be happy people are even talking about it.

And secondly, there are usually two types of people in comedies. Straight man, and comedic foil.

The foil is the one who usually is the actual comedy in any given comedy. They are also the fool, the humiliated, and the butt of the joke most of the time.

MOST PEOPLE WANT TO BE THE FOIL.

If my kid gets teased everyday playing baseball, ive failed as a parent to address the situation.

If kids are JOKING AROUND CONSTANTLY, and my kid is a stick in the mud autist, I would tell him he needs to be less of a partypooper and try to enjoy himself.

thinkinger
Profile Joined December 2017
21 Posts
December 04 2017 19:15 GMT
#189
On December 05 2017 04:06 Kripkringle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 03:25 thinkinger wrote:
Not all publicity attracts people. People play games for fun. This publicity is giving people the impression that in this game, gamers frequently humiliate opponents of less skills, and others cheer for it. Then why would one play this game, especially it takes months or even years to just learn the basic skills?


Have you ever heard of fighting games?

If you don't want to put in the time and effort to stay good, you've forfeited the right to not be humiliated if you step up to the plate.

As a player you do not want "close games". You want to smash your opponent into the ground, make him cry uncle, and get those W's.

If anyone thinks that there is an expectation of a casual player(fun) to be as good as a pro, and is worried about being humiliated by them, I've got news for ya.

You will likely never play anyone even 1/100th as good as this dude, so don't worry, play the game, and stop being a fucking pussy who's worried about being "humiliated". As if a casual is going to be on stream vs larva.

Your position is fucked, and makes no sense.


Your point does not make sense at all. Of course there will always be someone who consistently beat you no matter how good you are, do they all start calling you noob once you lose? Do you call your "opponents" noob after every win? If so, enjoy it, but many people don't. I play a game to win to enjoy the game itself, not to enjoy the feeling of beating someone I have never met. Yes, I do want 'close games' - there is no fun at all to play a new gamer, it is a waste of time.
Kripkringle
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
December 04 2017 19:22 GMT
#190
You're a disingenuous douche thinkinger.

Your analogy doesn't even hold up.

You said you sent your kid to play baseball and older kids made fun of him.

Well larva is 10 years lx junior.

If I send my kid to play baseball, and he gets upset YOUNGER KIDS are making fun of him, that shows a lack of maturity in my kid(lx).

The youth always make fun of their elders, because they don't know what it's like to be older. The older person should have the maturity and wisdom step back and realize this isn't their time anymore, and they know what it's like to be brash and young.

Your position is fucked, and makes no god damned sense.

And if you want people to play your dogshit game from 20 years ago, maybe the barrier for entry shouldn't be MONTHS of grind just to be 3/10 at the game.

I can pick up the majority of fighting games and be proficient in a month tops. Most people can. Most games are designed to be that way.

But BW isn't. So fuck off.

User was banned for this post.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 04 2017 19:22 GMT
#191
What, the thing was not even in China? All you defenders of cultural sensitivity are completely laughable then. It would have some semblance of a sense if Larva was a visitor in the offendees' country, but this way? I am sorry, but if you travel the world to meet with other people, those people aren't required to research whatever random "cultural requirements" you might have made up to have an easier life.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
December 04 2017 19:30 GMT
#192
On December 05 2017 04:22 opisska wrote:
What, the thing was not even in China? All you defenders of cultural sensitivity are completely laughable then. It would have some semblance of a sense if Larva was a visitor in the offendees' country, but this way? I am sorry, but if you travel the world to meet with other people, those people aren't required to research whatever random "cultural requirements" you might have made up to have an easier life.

Dude... you don't have to be Chinese to understand why Legend would feel upset about Larva's actions. It's basic human emotions. If your opponent (who I assume is not your friend and someone you don't know very well) makes a joke without you being in on it, it's very easy to misinterpret it as an insult.
It's as simple as being called a "jackass" from your best friend and a complete stranger. Is it that complicated to understand?
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 19:31:46
December 04 2017 19:31 GMT
#193
On December 05 2017 04:22 opisska wrote:
What, the thing was not even in China? All you defenders of cultural sensitivity are completely laughable then. It would have some semblance of a sense if Larva was a visitor in the offendees' country, but this way? I am sorry, but if you travel the world to meet with other people, those people aren't required to research whatever random "cultural requirements" you might have made up to have an easier life.

Legend got humiliated in front of thousands of viewers and now it's all over the internet. What the fuck does it matter if it was in China or not? Do you even socialize, bro? The lack of basic concepts in ethics in some people perplexes me.
Michael Probu
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 04 2017 19:38 GMT
#194
It seems to me that you guys live in some fairy tale societies. I don't wanna ruin your cozy sleeps, but when you eventually find out that by real world standards, making fun of people in a computer game still isn't even where the scale of potentially unpleasant behavior starts, you are up for some rather nasty surprises.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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thisisbooty
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 19:43:44
December 04 2017 19:38 GMT
#195
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say, lost any respect i had for Chinese players) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up. go ahead ban everyone better than you who can style on you, soon the tourny will be Chinese only
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 04 2017 19:42 GMT
#196
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up.

kespa would have done the same thing, as would any korean tournament of note. for all of FBH's notoriety he didn't pull anything like this
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
thisisbooty
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 19:46:06
December 04 2017 19:45 GMT
#197
On December 05 2017 04:42 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up.

kespa would have done the same thing, as would any korean tournament of note. for all of FBH's notoriety he didn't pull anything like this

you are right, but they wouldnt call the player and the fans of player "mentally ill", and i disagree with if they would do it too. people who don't have the balls to get shit on in a competitive zone they CHOSE to be in (no matter how disrespectfully) shouldn't be competing.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 19:48:03
December 04 2017 19:47 GMT
#198
On December 05 2017 04:45 thisisbooty wrote:
don't have the balls to get shit on

things you read on the internet... What's with the mass troll accounts btw?
Michael Probu
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 04 2017 19:48 GMT
#199
On December 05 2017 04:45 thisisbooty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:42 Endymion wrote:
On December 05 2017 04:38 thisisbooty wrote:
what a joke, they can call both the player and the fans mentally ill, and play still (super insulting and fucked up to say) but for getting outplayed with a foot they ban a player, this is why SC as an entirety has failed to maintain its success as an esport. slowly dieing day by day and whatever comes to spark life back into it such as a fun player, gets shit on by some fucked establishment. honestly babydick syndrome. disrespect is part of competition and if you cant handle being embarrassed by someone far better than you then dont show up.

kespa would have done the same thing, as would any korean tournament of note. for all of FBH's notoriety he didn't pull anything like this

you are right, but they wouldnt call the player and the fans of player "mentally ill", and i disagree with if they would do it too. people who don't have the balls to get shit on in a competitive zone they CHOSE to be in (no matter how disrespectfully) shouldn't be competing.

people who compete are there to compete... if you play against the best player in the world, they don't owe you any mercy in a competitive sense, but that doesn't give gosus a free pass to disregard dignity. i take it when you're on the ladder and a d- peruvian joins your game you just let loose on him? what's the point, we're all playing broodwar here.. take out your angst on the sc2 players instead
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
thisisbooty
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 19:53:57
December 04 2017 19:48 GMT
#200
On December 05 2017 04:47 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:45 thisisbooty wrote:
don't have the balls to get shit on

things you read on the internet... What's with the mass troll accounts btw?

? this is my only account, i had one way back that was permad by TL staff for saying i disagree with them (in a less than friendly manner), havnt been on TL since untill today, becuase this is bullshitty and needed to be said

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