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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
October 05 2017 01:48 GMT
#161
Soo....how do you play on Brain? Or...only KR IP's are allowed on Brain right?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10215 Posts
October 05 2017 03:48 GMT
#162
On October 05 2017 10:48 GGzerG wrote:
Soo....how do you play on Brain? Or...only KR IP's are allowed on Brain right?

You should ask your former clanmates, I am sure they know.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
fish_radio
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
182 Posts
October 05 2017 04:02 GMT
#163
On October 05 2017 12:48 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 10:48 GGzerG wrote:
Soo....how do you play on Brain? Or...only KR IP's are allowed on Brain right?

You should ask your former clanmates, I am sure they know.

so hot right now~
Sebyul Server W.I.P.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 04:50:22
October 05 2017 04:49 GMT
#164
On October 04 2017 15:58 PobTheCad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 12:32 arb wrote:
On October 04 2017 04:46 Cheesefome wrote:
On October 04 2017 03:52 lemmata wrote:
That video is a bit outdated. For example, Best's comments are from August. There have been many patches since then. Also, it is normal on Afreeca to exaggerate stuff like this.

Of course, SCR still has some problems, but videos like this are very misleading. Also, that last bit about "Most pros have to play with a very high latency setting, which causes a lot of delay" is false. They most certainly do not change the in-game network latency setting. If the video is referring to the turn rate, they always use 16 for sponsored games. The ladder turn rate has been increased to 12 from 8. The statement that "A lot of the game is unplayable because of lag" is also very questionable. They play so many games on Afreeca that you will be able to find many laggy games on stream, but at any given point in time, most games shown by the streamers are not laggy at all.

Blizzard should fix the problems that do occur, but we should maintain a sense of proportion. There is now a myth going around that 1.16 was some perfect lag-free version, but there were many laggy 1.16 games streamed on Afreeca as well. Most games were lag free, but if you play so many games, then you will get many laggy games just by chance as well. Online tournaments experienced this issue on 1.16 as well from time to time.

Things are okay. They could and should be better, but there's no great crisis here.


Starcraft was never anywhere near this laggy. You had a lagger here and there and that was fine but every other game is laggy now.

Not sure what game you're playing but people aren't complaining, wasting their time on forums and videos for fun i can tell you that much.

The bugs are forgivable, every game has bugs, whatever we can live with that. But the lag is unacceptable. We pre-ordered a game and expected bugs but not lag to the extent that we can't even play what was payed for.

I don't care how supportive you feel or how you wanna justify every little bit to avoid ruining the reputation of an once amazing game. You have to accept that this release is unacceptable. Unless you're the 1 out of a thousand people who aren't lagging every other game?

Every single one of my old starcraft friends is dealing with lag. It's not a myth, it's not being exaggerated. It's very much alive and kicking and more than ever.

I been playing this since 2000 and I don't remember a phase where it was anywhere near this laggy and I'm including the days when everyone was playing starcraft on aol dial up. This is out of control and unforgivable. If it takes 200 posts to convince blizz to post up some dedicated servers or create a similar program/set up to mcalauncher///wlauncher then that is what must be done.

People payed money already. It's either that or start deciding how they will do a mass refund. I can't find any other alternative. If this is the level of buggyness//laggyness we were suppose to expect then maybe remastered should have been free instead. At least for the people who had already purchased the game.

I don't know but i'm very disapointed with the result blizz thinks is remastered worthy and im becoming even more frustrated with the people trying to justify it.

They wont give you a mass refund, sorry.

As for myself I havent had a single game since I played with any of the lag everyone else talks about or any of the various other bugs

Well thats great.You likely live in a city with decent routing to South Korea.I know Eastern Europe is bad with pings to SK .Budapest 314 m/s compared to Washington DC 187 m/s. https://wondernetwork.com/pings


If i get that good of routing living in backwoods middle of no where i fear for the rest of the worlds internet I guess.

On October 05 2017 12:48 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 10:48 GGzerG wrote:
Soo....how do you play on Brain? Or...only KR IP's are allowed on Brain right?

You should ask your former clanmates, I am sure they know.


hard to ask them when you basically as i recall ran the bot by virtue of them letting you and then using that to act like you were good enough to play them and be in the clan i think.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 05:01:18
October 05 2017 05:00 GMT
#165
On October 05 2017 13:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 15:58 PobTheCad wrote:
On October 04 2017 12:32 arb wrote:
On October 04 2017 04:46 Cheesefome wrote:
On October 04 2017 03:52 lemmata wrote:
That video is a bit outdated. For example, Best's comments are from August. There have been many patches since then. Also, it is normal on Afreeca to exaggerate stuff like this.

Of course, SCR still has some problems, but videos like this are very misleading. Also, that last bit about "Most pros have to play with a very high latency setting, which causes a lot of delay" is false. They most certainly do not change the in-game network latency setting. If the video is referring to the turn rate, they always use 16 for sponsored games. The ladder turn rate has been increased to 12 from 8. The statement that "A lot of the game is unplayable because of lag" is also very questionable. They play so many games on Afreeca that you will be able to find many laggy games on stream, but at any given point in time, most games shown by the streamers are not laggy at all.

Blizzard should fix the problems that do occur, but we should maintain a sense of proportion. There is now a myth going around that 1.16 was some perfect lag-free version, but there were many laggy 1.16 games streamed on Afreeca as well. Most games were lag free, but if you play so many games, then you will get many laggy games just by chance as well. Online tournaments experienced this issue on 1.16 as well from time to time.

Things are okay. They could and should be better, but there's no great crisis here.


Starcraft was never anywhere near this laggy. You had a lagger here and there and that was fine but every other game is laggy now.

Not sure what game you're playing but people aren't complaining, wasting their time on forums and videos for fun i can tell you that much.

The bugs are forgivable, every game has bugs, whatever we can live with that. But the lag is unacceptable. We pre-ordered a game and expected bugs but not lag to the extent that we can't even play what was payed for.

I don't care how supportive you feel or how you wanna justify every little bit to avoid ruining the reputation of an once amazing game. You have to accept that this release is unacceptable. Unless you're the 1 out of a thousand people who aren't lagging every other game?

Every single one of my old starcraft friends is dealing with lag. It's not a myth, it's not being exaggerated. It's very much alive and kicking and more than ever.

I been playing this since 2000 and I don't remember a phase where it was anywhere near this laggy and I'm including the days when everyone was playing starcraft on aol dial up. This is out of control and unforgivable. If it takes 200 posts to convince blizz to post up some dedicated servers or create a similar program/set up to mcalauncher///wlauncher then that is what must be done.

People payed money already. It's either that or start deciding how they will do a mass refund. I can't find any other alternative. If this is the level of buggyness//laggyness we were suppose to expect then maybe remastered should have been free instead. At least for the people who had already purchased the game.

I don't know but i'm very disapointed with the result blizz thinks is remastered worthy and im becoming even more frustrated with the people trying to justify it.

They wont give you a mass refund, sorry.

As for myself I havent had a single game since I played with any of the lag everyone else talks about or any of the various other bugs

Well thats great.You likely live in a city with decent routing to South Korea.I know Eastern Europe is bad with pings to SK .Budapest 314 m/s compared to Washington DC 187 m/s. https://wondernetwork.com/pings


If i get that good of routing living in backwoods middle of no where i fear for the rest of the worlds internet I guess.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 12:48 Jealous wrote:
On October 05 2017 10:48 GGzerG wrote:
Soo....how do you play on Brain? Or...only KR IP's are allowed on Brain right?

You should ask your former clanmates, I am sure they know.


hard to ask them when you basically as i recall ran the bot by virtue of them letting you and then using that to act like you were good enough to play them and be in the clan i think.

Why you gotta spoil the joke -_-;

Wait, why you using "you"

Arb are you drunk again

stop that

pls
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 05 2017 05:12 GMT
#166
On October 05 2017 14:00 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 13:49 arb wrote:
On October 04 2017 15:58 PobTheCad wrote:
On October 04 2017 12:32 arb wrote:
On October 04 2017 04:46 Cheesefome wrote:
On October 04 2017 03:52 lemmata wrote:
That video is a bit outdated. For example, Best's comments are from August. There have been many patches since then. Also, it is normal on Afreeca to exaggerate stuff like this.

Of course, SCR still has some problems, but videos like this are very misleading. Also, that last bit about "Most pros have to play with a very high latency setting, which causes a lot of delay" is false. They most certainly do not change the in-game network latency setting. If the video is referring to the turn rate, they always use 16 for sponsored games. The ladder turn rate has been increased to 12 from 8. The statement that "A lot of the game is unplayable because of lag" is also very questionable. They play so many games on Afreeca that you will be able to find many laggy games on stream, but at any given point in time, most games shown by the streamers are not laggy at all.

Blizzard should fix the problems that do occur, but we should maintain a sense of proportion. There is now a myth going around that 1.16 was some perfect lag-free version, but there were many laggy 1.16 games streamed on Afreeca as well. Most games were lag free, but if you play so many games, then you will get many laggy games just by chance as well. Online tournaments experienced this issue on 1.16 as well from time to time.

Things are okay. They could and should be better, but there's no great crisis here.


Starcraft was never anywhere near this laggy. You had a lagger here and there and that was fine but every other game is laggy now.

Not sure what game you're playing but people aren't complaining, wasting their time on forums and videos for fun i can tell you that much.

The bugs are forgivable, every game has bugs, whatever we can live with that. But the lag is unacceptable. We pre-ordered a game and expected bugs but not lag to the extent that we can't even play what was payed for.

I don't care how supportive you feel or how you wanna justify every little bit to avoid ruining the reputation of an once amazing game. You have to accept that this release is unacceptable. Unless you're the 1 out of a thousand people who aren't lagging every other game?

Every single one of my old starcraft friends is dealing with lag. It's not a myth, it's not being exaggerated. It's very much alive and kicking and more than ever.

I been playing this since 2000 and I don't remember a phase where it was anywhere near this laggy and I'm including the days when everyone was playing starcraft on aol dial up. This is out of control and unforgivable. If it takes 200 posts to convince blizz to post up some dedicated servers or create a similar program/set up to mcalauncher///wlauncher then that is what must be done.

People payed money already. It's either that or start deciding how they will do a mass refund. I can't find any other alternative. If this is the level of buggyness//laggyness we were suppose to expect then maybe remastered should have been free instead. At least for the people who had already purchased the game.

I don't know but i'm very disapointed with the result blizz thinks is remastered worthy and im becoming even more frustrated with the people trying to justify it.

They wont give you a mass refund, sorry.

As for myself I havent had a single game since I played with any of the lag everyone else talks about or any of the various other bugs

Well thats great.You likely live in a city with decent routing to South Korea.I know Eastern Europe is bad with pings to SK .Budapest 314 m/s compared to Washington DC 187 m/s. https://wondernetwork.com/pings


If i get that good of routing living in backwoods middle of no where i fear for the rest of the worlds internet I guess.

On October 05 2017 12:48 Jealous wrote:
On October 05 2017 10:48 GGzerG wrote:
Soo....how do you play on Brain? Or...only KR IP's are allowed on Brain right?

You should ask your former clanmates, I am sure they know.


hard to ask them when you basically as i recall ran the bot by virtue of them letting you and then using that to act like you were good enough to play them and be in the clan i think.

Why you gotta spoil the joke -_-;

Wait, why you using "you"

Arb are you drunk again

stop that

pls

i just quoted the nearest post, my bad lolol. ignore your post being there
did that really not make any sense

looking back it may not have
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
October 05 2017 06:42 GMT
#167
RM is based, you can get a game that isn't on FS in less than a minute.
Fuck KeSPA.
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark356 Posts
October 05 2017 08:42 GMT
#168
I have had 1 game with lag out of ~300, and that was against a korean. Otherwise absolutely 0 lag..... I do have had like 10-15 games that just instant shuts down for no reason :/
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1934 Posts
October 05 2017 13:57 GMT
#169
On October 05 2017 17:42 Pippah wrote:
I have had 1 game with lag out of ~300, and that was against a korean. Otherwise absolutely 0 lag..... I do have had like 10-15 games that just instant shuts down for no reason :/


the problem is that the people in higher mmr's get games ONLY against koreans, so every single game is like that one game you had.
I don't believe you.
ishmoks
Profile Joined November 2010
Philippines50 Posts
October 05 2017 16:07 GMT
#170
I love remastered. Maybe people should upgrade their wooden pcs.
I play Type 1
fish_radio
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
182 Posts
October 05 2017 16:29 GMT
#171
On October 06 2017 01:07 ishmoks wrote:
I love remastered. Maybe people should upgrade their wooden pcs.

ryzen 1800 and gtx 1060
Sebyul Server W.I.P.
PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
October 05 2017 20:01 GMT
#172
If you're going to join brain just remember this

IMPORTANT BrainClan Etiquette, or "How To Not Be A Foreigner"
It is absolutely critical that foreigners do not stick out too badly on the Brain server. Foreigner IPs were banned from Brain before for this reason. A lot of behavior used on iCCup is considered too rude for the server. Overall, I feel they are more professional than iCCup, and this must be taken into account.

I urge you to read the following if you intend to play on Brain at all, so that everyone may enjoy the benefits of having unbanned IPs for us foreigners:

- The overall idea is blend in, don't piss Koreans off, keep us unbanned.
- Wait a good ten hours after making account (policy, you must in order to play a ranked ladder match 1v1).
- Make games with mini-launcher and #LL or #L2 for LAN latency. If you do not know how to use LatencyChanger for Chaos/minilauncher, practice on USEast to make sure you have it working.. ;p
- Do not smurf or make multiple accounts (for the purpose of stomping n00bs anyway). Koreans hate this. They say this is what iCCup is for.
- Do not chat in the ladder channels. Find someone near your rank, and whisper them the gamename/password. They will say "go" or something similar if they agree.
- Have the Korean maps. [See just above this for link]
- From my personal experience with having Korean friends, they take swearing, especially f-bombs, a lot more personally then we do here. It means more. Respect that, and only drop BM if you really, really mean it, and be prepared for the consequences.. (including getting us banned again you jackass. ;P)
- I am unsure if installing a Korean language pack is actually necessary. If you want to host a public game, it may stand out to use the English alphabet instead of Korean. See under "Details and Korean Language Pack" spoiler above.
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