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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 12:09:06
September 14 2017 12:04 GMT
#61
excuse me but that terror attitude in the video below the first post is far more disgusting than anything listed about Sea. Thats pure disgrace and i have never understand how can people enjoy that. I would rather punch him in the face rather than give him baloons. That and larva attitude tolerated by masses makes me wander, is afreeca the place where most low life/no life koreans hang? I could guess how stork seen these seizure and infantile attitude tolerated as a disgrace to the progamers.
Luv ya BroodWar!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
September 14 2017 12:06 GMT
#62
On September 14 2017 17:13 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 20:11 r33k wrote:
On September 12 2017 19:10 bigmetazltank wrote:
On September 12 2017 19:01 paxconsciente wrote:they nearly killed BW over one players matchfixing scandal, what's next?


It was more than one of the greatest zergs of all time engaged in match fixing. It was like half of Hite Sparkyz's proleague lineup (go.go, type-b, fake Yellow), Luxury who won a MSL and Hwasin who was a top 10 terran for a very long time.

These weren't just one or two players that people don't really care about. These were proleague A teamer and frequent RO16 players.

If there's any progamer that warrants a hate thread it's Luxury. I personally never had a problem with match fixers (which would warrant discussion on its own without the blind hate even mentioning it gets), but the guy literally exploited his handicapped wife for money and beat her to the point of sending her to the hospital.

As far as I'm concerned rehab wouldn't hurt Sea and it would be the only proactive solution to what happened, but Asian culture in general doesn't see alcohol abuse as a problem.

Are you aware that Luxury was later found not guilty of the domestic violence charges?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/448600-luxury-found-not-guilty-of-domestic-violence-charges

I'm not saying if I disagree with you or not. Its just I wonder if there are any people out there who just saw the initial thread about Luxury and never saw the thread after.

I did not, I wasn't following the scene at the time. The translated article is a very interesting read.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 12:23:31
September 14 2017 12:14 GMT
#63
On September 11 2017 12:07 reincremate wrote:
Man I'm sick of all y'all non-drinking, non-shady-character-fraternizing nerd puritans passing moral judgement on and making asshatted assumptions about a guy you've never met. After all the cool shit Sea has done as a progamer, including reaching out to the foreign community. You should all be ashamed.

100% agree, its like watching girls bitching about this and that.
Did the girl have charged Sea with abuse? If not then all this talking is useless.
Have you ever heard of forgiveness, its something that makes you human. Its good to first look into your life then nitpick every flaw in others attitude.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
September 14 2017 13:16 GMT
#64
On September 14 2017 21:04 _Animus_ wrote:
That and larva attitude tolerated by masses makes me wander, is afreeca the place where most low life/no life koreans hang?

Yo, what is your problem with larva?
Be the change you want to see in the world.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 13:58:04
September 14 2017 13:56 GMT
#65
On September 14 2017 17:13 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 20:11 r33k wrote:
On September 12 2017 19:10 bigmetazltank wrote:
On September 12 2017 19:01 paxconsciente wrote:they nearly killed BW over one players matchfixing scandal, what's next?


It was more than one of the greatest zergs of all time engaged in match fixing. It was like half of Hite Sparkyz's proleague lineup (go.go, type-b, fake Yellow), Luxury who won a MSL and Hwasin who was a top 10 terran for a very long time.

These weren't just one or two players that people don't really care about. These were proleague A teamer and frequent RO16 players.

If there's any progamer that warrants a hate thread it's Luxury. I personally never had a problem with match fixers (which would warrant discussion on its own without the blind hate even mentioning it gets), but the guy literally exploited his handicapped wife for money and beat her to the point of sending her to the hospital.

As far as I'm concerned rehab wouldn't hurt Sea and it would be the only proactive solution to what happened, but Asian culture in general doesn't see alcohol abuse as a problem.

Are you aware that Luxury was later found not guilty of the domestic violence charges?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/448600-luxury-found-not-guilty-of-domestic-violence-charges

I'm not saying if I disagree with you or not. Its just I wonder if there are any people out there who just saw the initial thread about Luxury and never saw the thread after.


Just because he was found not-guilty in court does not mean he is actually innocent in an objective sense, nor does it mean he's not still a piece of shit (as the users in that thread were quick to point out, even though you yourself failed to notice that).

On September 14 2017 21:14 _Animus_ wrote:

Did the girl have charged Sea with abuse? If not then all this talking is useless.


You're right, it's not like any victim has ever just kept quiet and hoped for the shitstorm to blow over, without exposing the truth... No sir-e, it has literally never happened. If the victim doesn't say much then clearly he's as right as rain...
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-14 16:08:39
September 14 2017 15:54 GMT
#66
*if* the allegations about Mr. Mo are true, that's a bad look for Sea. A whole section bemoaning his crude humor though? haha wtf

*edit* gotdamn http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=102&oid=025&aid=0002752430

yeah that's a bad look. I still think it's ridiculous to wring your hands over crude humor though
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 06:52:21
September 15 2017 06:38 GMT
#67
On September 14 2017 22:56 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 17:13 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:11 r33k wrote:
On September 12 2017 19:10 bigmetazltank wrote:
On September 12 2017 19:01 paxconsciente wrote:they nearly killed BW over one players matchfixing scandal, what's next?


It was more than one of the greatest zergs of all time engaged in match fixing. It was like half of Hite Sparkyz's proleague lineup (go.go, type-b, fake Yellow), Luxury who won a MSL and Hwasin who was a top 10 terran for a very long time.

These weren't just one or two players that people don't really care about. These were proleague A teamer and frequent RO16 players.

If there's any progamer that warrants a hate thread it's Luxury. I personally never had a problem with match fixers (which would warrant discussion on its own without the blind hate even mentioning it gets), but the guy literally exploited his handicapped wife for money and beat her to the point of sending her to the hospital.

As far as I'm concerned rehab wouldn't hurt Sea and it would be the only proactive solution to what happened, but Asian culture in general doesn't see alcohol abuse as a problem.

Are you aware that Luxury was later found not guilty of the domestic violence charges?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/448600-luxury-found-not-guilty-of-domestic-violence-charges

I'm not saying if I disagree with you or not. Its just I wonder if there are any people out there who just saw the initial thread about Luxury and never saw the thread after.


Just because he was found not-guilty in court does not mean he is actually innocent in an objective sense, nor does it mean he's not still a piece of shit (as the users in that thread were quick to point out, even though you yourself failed to notice that).

Do you think I would link to a thread from 3 years ago if I didn't bother to read the posts from it? I read the thread when it was first posted and yes I noticed the posts after back then too.

I don't disagree with you that just because Luxury was found not-guilty that hes completely innocent. The result also doesn't change the fact that he still matchfixed. I linked to the thread in case there were people who were unaware of the results of the investigation. After that you can come up with whatever conclusion you want. I didn't link to the thread to support Luxury.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
September 15 2017 08:05 GMT
#68
what the fuck

such drama lol
Argentina
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
September 16 2017 13:36 GMT
#69
wtf sea has 22k viewers atm. i guess hitting a girl = more views
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
September 16 2017 16:36 GMT
#70
On September 16 2017 22:36 Golgotha wrote:
wtf sea has 22k viewers atm. i guess hitting a girl = more views


More like controversy = interest
Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16672 Posts
September 16 2017 17:10 GMT
#71
maybe crime doesn't pay... but trolling does.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States581 Posts
September 16 2017 23:52 GMT
#72
hot damn I missed this thread. that story about some guy donating to sea publicly like that sounds like an obvious troll which this OP is trying to make out as sea being evil. if I go donate to SoS thanking him for throwing game 7 of the gsl finals, that doesn't mean sos is match fixing.

I've followed korean pop long enough to know that korean news is extremely bias and fishes way too hard to create drama for article views = more money. Watching the whole video puts it into perspective.

SHOUTOUTS to the team liquid mod who banned me for two days in the other thread for saying that everyone was overreacting and that obvious it was flirting between both parties. Yet people in this thread are saying just what I said now that they say the full video. Really shows the divide of people who just watch asl and actually know the korean scene and culture.
chocoed
Profile Joined June 2007
United States398 Posts
September 17 2017 15:52 GMT
#73
Can somebody explain to me why Sea is so popular? He doesn't even stream SC every time I check his stream out.
My life for Aiur!
CUTtheCBC
Profile Joined December 2016
Canada91 Posts
September 17 2017 20:01 GMT
#74
you're accusing him of sexual assault for going to massage parlors?? OP.... plz... kill..... [ REMOVED BY MODS]
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