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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1448 Posts
February 01 2018 23:21 GMT
#1561
its really no brainer for koreans at least to choose BW streaming. Its more lucrative and has sponsor match system going on, with regular donation on top of that

fantasy will surely get tons of those whereas SC2 scene is more inclusive for only best koreans on twitch.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 01 2018 23:39 GMT
#1562
While I agree with the above, if he's looking to play in something like ASL on a more consistent basis, SCII unfortunately has us beat due to WCS and such but other than that, streaming is a much better option for BW, on top of the other added benefits.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-02 00:05:17
February 02 2018 00:03 GMT
#1563
this is best's youtube video about TOP PLAYERS that YOU WONT SEE for ASL 5



On February 02 2018 08:39 BigFan wrote:
While I agree with the above, if he's looking to play in something like ASL on a more consistent basis, SCII unfortunately has us beat due to WCS and such but other than that, streaming is a much better option for BW, on top of the other added benefits.



That is true, but its really very very top heavy even for koreans. BW may only have ASL and other misc stuff here and there, but its much much better streaming wise. Doesn't really compare to SC2 korean scene really.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51485 Posts
February 02 2018 02:53 GMT
#1564
so its confirmed jangbi is perma retired now?
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
February 02 2018 03:43 GMT
#1565
Is there any more information/updates about how Bisu is doing?
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-02 04:10:30
February 02 2018 04:10 GMT
#1566
On February 02 2018 11:53 GTR wrote:
so its confirmed jangbi is perma retired now?


might comeback if he can quality for ASL5, he said

unlikely tho. Hes not really practicing, and he quit in first place because of pressure from streaming, and out of his own will, not because of outside factors such as army.

very unlikely.

but you should know this :p
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
February 02 2018 04:23 GMT
#1567
On February 02 2018 13:10 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 11:53 GTR wrote:
so its confirmed jangbi is perma retired now?


might comeback if he can quality for ASL5, he said

unlikely tho. Hes not really practicing, and he quit in first place because of pressure from streaming, and out of his own will, not because of outside factors such as army.

very unlikely.

but you should know this :p


Even with hardly any practice there are parts of the game JangBi is still better at than even the absolute top of the protoss hierarchy. Like the speed with which he clicks units out of multiple gateways (Stork always claimed that the protoss with the best macro-management was JangBi, not BeSt, although I'd argue that BeSt's macro-management are a result of smart planning rather than raw mechanical prowess) was so smooth and efficient.

If only JangBi was blessed with the mental fortitude and discipline of some of the other great protoss players throughout the years. It's truly a shame.
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1448 Posts
February 02 2018 04:31 GMT
#1568
On February 02 2018 13:23 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 13:10 jinjin5000 wrote:
On February 02 2018 11:53 GTR wrote:
so its confirmed jangbi is perma retired now?


might comeback if he can quality for ASL5, he said

unlikely tho. Hes not really practicing, and he quit in first place because of pressure from streaming, and out of his own will, not because of outside factors such as army.

very unlikely.

but you should know this :p


Even with hardly any practice there are parts of the game JangBi is still better at than even the absolute top of the protoss hierarchy. Like the speed with which he clicks units out of multiple gateways (Stork always claimed that the protoss with the best macro-management was JangBi, not BeSt, although I'd argue that BeSt's macro-management are a result of smart planning rather than raw mechanical prowess) was so smooth and efficient.

If only JangBi was blessed with the mental fortitude and discipline of some of the other great protoss players throughout the years. It's truly a shame.


I mean on getting through with no practice, we have recent example with Sea. Sea did make it into Wegl without practicing very much, but he still practiced once in a while.

but ASL is gonna be tougher and since jangbi hasn't practiced for few months....doubt he will make it. Doesn't seem like he played very much if not all for few months. We saw him on FBH stream few months ago but that was it, and he said there he didn't play at all.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 02 2018 07:03 GMT
#1569
damn, ssak why you going to the military T_T
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
February 02 2018 07:44 GMT
#1570
On February 02 2018 03:43 onlystar wrote:
Omgf for me personally not to bash Sc2 but If he Goes on to Sc2 its a catastrophe for scbw


Not at all. I enjoyed the scrappiness of his games in SC2 but would be happy for him to go back and play BW. That reminds me, I need to get into BW more but no bloody time!.
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LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
February 02 2018 07:51 GMT
#1571
On February 02 2018 13:10 jinjin5000 wrote:

unlikely tho. Hes not really practicing, and he quit in first place because of pressure from streaming, and out of his own will, not because of outside factors such as army.



Can you explain this a little better please? I'm not sure if I got it right, are you saying he doesn't stream and doesn't practice because he got too much pressure from the viewers on his stream? Pressure to play more? to win ASL?
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1448 Posts
February 02 2018 09:18 GMT
#1572
On February 02 2018 16:51 LocoBolon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 13:10 jinjin5000 wrote:

unlikely tho. Hes not really practicing, and he quit in first place because of pressure from streaming, and out of his own will, not because of outside factors such as army.



Can you explain this a little better please? I'm not sure if I got it right, are you saying he doesn't stream and doesn't practice because he got too much pressure from the viewers on his stream? Pressure to play more? to win ASL?


he said he will return if he gets through ASL and qualifies for it but hes not practicing at all.

Pressure to perform and keep up with streaming. Yea, pressure from viewers AND to pressure to play and improve. Jangbi isn't exactly the strongest guy mentally so he couldnt keep up with whole streaming stuff
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-02 15:00:48
February 02 2018 14:58 GMT
#1573
Maybe you kimchi trolls shouldnt come into his chat and constantly call him a pig and stuff. Anyway he already returned to afreeca twice before and both times he was mediocre throughout i laugh at all the people that still romanticize about him. Rather see fantasy return.

User was temp banned for this post.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 02 2018 18:59 GMT
#1574
On February 02 2018 18:18 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 16:51 LocoBolon wrote:
On February 02 2018 13:10 jinjin5000 wrote:

unlikely tho. Hes not really practicing, and he quit in first place because of pressure from streaming, and out of his own will, not because of outside factors such as army.



Can you explain this a little better please? I'm not sure if I got it right, are you saying he doesn't stream and doesn't practice because he got too much pressure from the viewers on his stream? Pressure to play more? to win ASL?


he said he will return if he gets through ASL and qualifies for it but hes not practicing at all.

Pressure to perform and keep up with streaming. Yea, pressure from viewers AND to pressure to play and improve. Jangbi isn't exactly the strongest guy mentally so he couldnt keep up with whole streaming stuff

This makes me so sad to read. Jangbi didnt have more usually than 50ish viewers on afreeca. We are talking the guy that singlehandedly saved the legacy of broodwar on the tail end of the kespa era (imagine no protoss starleague winners from 2009-2012). And what does he get in return? A cold shoulder from the community because he could not instantly get back to his former shape? Or because he wasnt 'entertaining' enough? What is the point? Do these people even care about BW and their players?
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
February 02 2018 20:45 GMT
#1575
Korean trolls are nr1
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 02 2018 21:29 GMT
#1576
That's funny hearing FanTa didn't decide which game to choose when all legends switched back to BW. Also SC2 got fuckton of changes, he won't even be able to catch up with meta.
sunbeams are never made like me...
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6701 Posts
February 02 2018 22:28 GMT
#1577
On February 03 2018 06:29 outscar wrote:
That's funny hearing FanTa didn't decide which game to choose when all legends switched back to BW. Also SC2 got fuckton of changes, he won't even be able to catch up with meta.

i heard that he prefered Starcraft 2 ,and since there is still lot of competition and fans ,i think any choice will be = good for him.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13179 Posts
February 02 2018 22:39 GMT
#1578
Sucks about Jangbi. Was the best protoss of them all.

This next ASL could be grim for P players. There aren't any good ones left.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 03 2018 00:22 GMT
#1579
On February 03 2018 07:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2018 06:29 outscar wrote:
That's funny hearing FanTa didn't decide which game to choose when all legends switched back to BW. Also SC2 got fuckton of changes, he won't even be able to catch up with meta.

i heard that he prefered Starcraft 2 ,and since there is still lot of competition and fans ,i think any choice will be = good for him.


He only said he preffered SC2 when he was still on SKT.

He would be literally throwing money away if he didn't come back to BW. He's going to be a baloon machine and I need his vods!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 03 2018 08:04 GMT
#1580
On February 03 2018 07:39 RowdierBob wrote:
Sucks about Jangbi. Was the best protoss of them all.

This next ASL could be grim for P players. There aren't any good ones left.

I'll never won't hope that we'll see Stork shine
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