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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10353 Posts
November 15 2019 01:02 GMT
#2501
On November 15 2019 09:47 SchAmToo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2019 08:34 hydrogg wrote:
On November 15 2019 05:44 SchAmToo wrote:
On November 15 2019 00:11 evilfatsh1t wrote:
blizzard definitely deserves blame for that. how does the tournament only have 1 guy in charge and he just happens to be at blizzcon for whatever reason instead of running the tournament?


Did you just ask how can Blizzard have an employee care more about BlizzCon than this? I mean, I love KSL and everything but come on.

BlizzCon is the biggest concern for Blizzard at all times.

Also, I think we should get used to this. Blizzard doesn't have a ton of StarCraft esports people left.


Blizzcon being the biggest concern for Blizzard makes sense. But having the guy in charge of a tournament not being able to be in charge of the tournament doesn't. They should have delegated the task to someone who didn't need to be at Blizzcon.


Kinda my point, there's not that many people left to even do that.

But this is all besides the point: It seems more likely that someone made a bad call and blamed it on a Blizzard rep who wasn't even engaged at the time, thus it seems like someone is covering their ass.

I don't think that's besides the point at all - if someone from Blizzard was there, or at least was on call, then no one would have had to cover their ass in the first place. If Blizzard is running KSL, they need to delegate at least one person to be available to answer questions and concerns.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
November 15 2019 03:25 GMT
#2502
On November 15 2019 10:02 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2019 09:47 SchAmToo wrote:
On November 15 2019 08:34 hydrogg wrote:
On November 15 2019 05:44 SchAmToo wrote:
On November 15 2019 00:11 evilfatsh1t wrote:
blizzard definitely deserves blame for that. how does the tournament only have 1 guy in charge and he just happens to be at blizzcon for whatever reason instead of running the tournament?


Did you just ask how can Blizzard have an employee care more about BlizzCon than this? I mean, I love KSL and everything but come on.

BlizzCon is the biggest concern for Blizzard at all times.

Also, I think we should get used to this. Blizzard doesn't have a ton of StarCraft esports people left.


Blizzcon being the biggest concern for Blizzard makes sense. But having the guy in charge of a tournament not being able to be in charge of the tournament doesn't. They should have delegated the task to someone who didn't need to be at Blizzcon.


Kinda my point, there's not that many people left to even do that.

But this is all besides the point: It seems more likely that someone made a bad call and blamed it on a Blizzard rep who wasn't even engaged at the time, thus it seems like someone is covering their ass.

I don't think that's besides the point at all - if someone from Blizzard was there, or at least was on call, then no one would have had to cover their ass in the first place. If Blizzard is running KSL, they need to delegate at least one person to be available to answer questions and concerns.


Eh, I guess I see it as besides the point because that's probably going to be life now. We have to enjoy KSL knowing blizz doesn't have that many people left to be "up all the time".
twitch.tv/schamtoo | twitter.com/schamtoo
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
November 15 2019 03:48 GMT
#2503
if blizzard cant get enough staff to run the tournament they shouldnt be running the tournament. simple as that tbh
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
November 15 2019 04:08 GMT
#2504
On November 15 2019 12:48 evilfatsh1t wrote:
if blizzard cant get enough staff to run the tournament they shouldnt be running the tournament. simple as that tbh


So you want no KSL instead of KSL like this? :|
twitch.tv/schamtoo | twitter.com/schamtoo
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
November 15 2019 04:17 GMT
#2505
its not about what the fans want. if youre a tournament organiser but you cant actually run your tournament, youre nothing but incompetent. keep in mind that it was blizzards choice to make the tournament on twitch and manage it themselves at the tradeoff of not allowing others to do it instead.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
November 15 2019 05:31 GMT
#2506
I like how mostly everything is negative on these forums. Blizzard sponsored a really cool tournament so we could all watch it and you guys are sitting around criticizing them because 1 player had to play on a computer monitor 2 inches bigger than he was used to...
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 15 2019 05:40 GMT
#2507
This is just poor craftmanship from the organizers.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10353 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-15 13:15:30
November 15 2019 13:13 GMT
#2508
On November 15 2019 14:31 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I like how mostly everything is negative on these forums. Blizzard sponsored a really cool tournament so we could all watch it and you guys are sitting around criticizing them because 1 player had to play on a computer monitor 2 inches bigger than he was used to...

Might not make a difference for a player of your caliber but it certainly affects others. Think about how Flash used a ruler to make sure all of his set-up was in alignment.

Trying to minimize the issue because you like the tournament as a spectator is basically being callous to the actual people who play the game and would have played the game with or without Blizzard's involvement or the tournament setting. Why are you more inclined to let Blizzard/KSL staff lie to and ignore the complaints of players than you are to make the players that provide us these games over decades happy?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 15 2019 15:46 GMT
#2509
On November 15 2019 14:31 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I like how mostly everything is negative on these forums. Blizzard sponsored a really cool tournament so we could all watch it and you guys are sitting around criticizing them because 1 player had to play on a computer monitor 2 inches bigger than he was used to...


It's 4 inches difference. If you've been constantly playing this game more than 10+ years you will know what that means: Stork couldn't even split his probes, isn't that enough for you to understand how important that is??? They arrived there not to watch some disney movie on 27 inch but for a tournament. Imagine you're an athlete f.e. powerlifter, you train for 200 pounds but when you arrive they say "Oh sorry, we don't have 200 pounds weight, how about you try 250 pounds?". Pros allowed to use their own keyboard and mouse, why they can't choose which monitor they want? The rules of tournament are stupid as hell.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
November 15 2019 16:10 GMT
#2510
On November 15 2019 13:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not about what the fans want. if youre a tournament organiser but you cant actually run your tournament, youre nothing but incompetent. keep in mind that it was blizzards choice to make the tournament on twitch and manage it themselves at the tradeoff of not allowing others to do it instead.


That's not what happened. They didn't not allow others just because of KSL, KSL came after they introduced the fees as Blizzard wanted to host a tournament for the fans of the game they know there's a lot of love for.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
November 15 2019 16:40 GMT
#2511
On November 16 2019 01:10 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2019 13:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not about what the fans want. if youre a tournament organiser but you cant actually run your tournament, youre nothing but incompetent. keep in mind that it was blizzards choice to make the tournament on twitch and manage it themselves at the tradeoff of not allowing others to do it instead.


That's not what happened. They didn't not allow others just because of KSL, KSL came after they introduced the fees as Blizzard wanted to host a tournament for the fans of the game they know there's a lot of love for.


What kind of argument is that? I don't follow...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
November 15 2019 18:17 GMT
#2512
On November 16 2019 01:40 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2019 01:10 Qikz wrote:
On November 15 2019 13:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not about what the fans want. if youre a tournament organiser but you cant actually run your tournament, youre nothing but incompetent. keep in mind that it was blizzards choice to make the tournament on twitch and manage it themselves at the tradeoff of not allowing others to do it instead.


That's not what happened. They didn't not allow others just because of KSL, KSL came after they introduced the fees as Blizzard wanted to host a tournament for the fans of the game they know there's a lot of love for.


What kind of argument is that? I don't follow...


It's not an argument, I'm just saying his order of events is messed up.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
November 15 2019 22:27 GMT
#2513
can't judge Stork's situation with 27" monitor without being in his shoes. different people are different... eg. some people find windchimes soothing. me, I see some in a store and think about various tortures that'd be fitting toward whoever invented them.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
November 16 2019 04:36 GMT
#2514
Anyone know anything about ASL9 yet?
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-16 04:40:11
November 16 2019 04:39 GMT
#2515
https://www.twitch.tv/ogn live event Gstar with Flash (add in live event maybe??)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
November 16 2019 04:44 GMT
#2516
On November 16 2019 01:10 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2019 13:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not about what the fans want. if youre a tournament organiser but you cant actually run your tournament, youre nothing but incompetent. keep in mind that it was blizzards choice to make the tournament on twitch and manage it themselves at the tradeoff of not allowing others to do it instead.


That's not what happened. They didn't not allow others just because of KSL, KSL came after they introduced the fees as Blizzard wanted to host a tournament for the fans of the game they know there's a lot of love for.

im not saying that was the order of events, im saying that was the end result. blizzard deliberately made it difficult for others to host tournaments, either due to greed or them wanting to do it themselves or both. if youre going to make it difficult for everyone else and you run a tournament yourself, at least do it properly. you dont just host a tournament and hope the broadcasting staff will take care of things and clean your shit up for you while the only person you authorise to handle the tournament is on the other side of the planet.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51661 Posts
November 16 2019 04:57 GMT
#2517
On November 16 2019 13:39 onlystar wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/ogn live event Gstar with Flash (add in live event maybe??)


looks like a 2v1 tie-in event with one of the ogn shows
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51110 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-16 05:10:12
November 16 2019 04:59 GMT
#2518
BW on OGN again, what could have been......:/

this is like a live episode of bnet attack
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 16 2019 07:10 GMT
#2519
Does anyone know who he is versing at the moment? This protoss is up 2-0 right now. (granted on win was a in base 2 gate cheese)

So he must be a high level protoss.
Artosis loves Starcraft
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51661 Posts
November 16 2019 09:57 GMT
#2520
On November 16 2019 16:10 NoS-Craig wrote:
Does anyone know who he is versing at the moment? This protoss is up 2-0 right now. (granted on win was a in base 2 gate cheese)

So he must be a high level protoss.


stork
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