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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-31 20:06:25
July 22 2017 09:42 GMT
#1
Hi, i made elo ranking based on 2017 Tournaments and events i found on liquipedia / defilre.ru.
I will try to keep it up to date. Also planing add some more features and statistics in future. Have fun and good luck

http://rankgim.eu/ - updated list

@pauline - updated
@eon - done
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1566 Posts
July 22 2017 09:50 GMT
#2
Good initiative! hope this will become a reference in the future

ps : I am french not russian
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 22 2017 10:13 GMT
#3
Looks neat. Let's revive foreign scene.
sunbeams are never made like me...
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 22 2017 10:30 GMT
#4
Good job! Some familiar names, yes these old men are still playing, hehehe
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 22 2017 10:31 GMT
#5
that is really awesome
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
July 22 2017 10:42 GMT
#6
change my flag for the belgian please.
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 11:14:08
July 22 2017 11:04 GMT
#7
I think you should add win % for each player, it is easy to do and useful statistic.

Edit: Ah win % are shown when you click on a player, didn't notice them, sorry
Be the change you want to see in the world.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 11:24:56
July 22 2017 11:13 GMT
#8
@Netto click on nickname


Important question, is SuGo korean ? As i remember he is korean livin in US, does he have korean citizenship ?
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland563 Posts
July 22 2017 11:33 GMT
#9
SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner
awerti
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 12:56:00
July 22 2017 12:46 GMT
#10
Good job! It's definitely handy to see who are the foreigners in the best shape.

Just a reminder, there is also this page where you can filter foreigners on Fish server. Best part - this page takes player lists from TL wiki and Fish server.
https://r-raymond.github.io/bwladder/index.html
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/521362-fish-server-ranking

Edit: My bad, it is not up to date... sorry
For Aiur!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
July 22 2017 12:53 GMT
#11
but is not up to date,im B rank fish with the id iFU.eOnzErG
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
July 22 2017 14:45 GMT
#12
Awesome work ZuluNation. I am wondering about when I played lancerx in a tournament, and apparently won lol.
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 15:03:34
July 22 2017 15:03 GMT
#13
Mb it was some WO. i was trying to ignore it but sometimes brackets dont include was it wo or not. Also i was adding so many results (few hundreds) in 1-2 streams that probably i made some mistakes also, but im pretty sure 99% results are fine. Now it will be more easy to keep it up to date.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 22 2017 15:05 GMT
#14
Sweet. How does this work btw?
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
B12ad
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
July 22 2017 15:28 GMT
#15
I'm m1_garandad, aka B12ad also United States flag pls, ty!
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 15:43:38
July 22 2017 15:35 GMT
#16
@Scan, what do you mean exactly? Points system? Its based on chess elo rating system with reduced variation for "new" players. Now top players elo seems pretty low becouse of small sample of games and players, hope remaster will bring for us much more events.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
July 22 2017 20:08 GMT
#17
No clue how ratings work but looks very cool!
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 09:21:09
July 23 2017 09:15 GMT
#18
Thinking about two separated rankings an international tournaments and korean tournaments, should i do it this way ? It means i will add Scans, Sonstars etc to an international oturnaments. Im in 95% decided to do that becouse it seems more logical for me. What do u think about that ?
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 23 2017 10:07 GMT
#19
On July 23 2017 18:15 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Thinking about two separated rankings an international tournaments and korean tournaments, should i do it this way ? It means i will add Scans, Sonstars etc to an international oturnaments. Im in 95% decided to do that becouse it seems more logical for me. What do u think about that ?


1) foreign players rankings
2) foreign players with active korean players(who associate with foreign community/tour/etc) rankings
3) overall international rankings

idk. just shouted out some ideas.
Korea also have their own system of ELO rankings atm since April? or May 2017.
The link to go to Korean ELO ranking website is http://xn--oy3bn0ftst.com/
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
July 23 2017 21:16 GMT
#20
Ranking update. In the absence of votes of opposition by 12h I open the ranking for koreans, etc. From now it will be an international ranking. hf.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 21:33:35
July 23 2017 21:29 GMT
#21
On July 24 2017 06:16 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Ranking update. In the absence of votes of opposition by 12h I open the ranking for koreans, etc. From now it will be an international ranking. hf.

why you put bonyth win yesterday against me if it was a walk over were i won ? also it only count series ? such a shame since i loss most of my bo3 1-2,IE yesterday vs scan :/

also congratulations Scan as top 1 in the foreigner elo rank -_-;
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 21:43:56
July 23 2017 21:38 GMT
#22
@eon, the reason is simple, yesterday results was in real played week ago, i just added it yesterday (as half of games from last 6 months) morning. Games from yesterday tournaments i added today (with some small mistake in game order fixed manually). There is no small games like 1-2, 1-3 only bo1/bo3/bo5... score result.

Planing add also some feature that will autohide inactive players, if someone in 6 months didnt play a game = your profile will be hidden.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
July 23 2017 23:12 GMT
#23
Elo works by individual game results, NOT series. This is because winning 2-0 is better than winning 2-1.
KenZy
Profile Joined February 2009
France92 Posts
July 23 2017 23:43 GMT
#24
i think you forgot some results because i went down in the ranking after "haveatyou" tournament while i should climb in the ranking. Or am I missing something ?
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland563 Posts
July 23 2017 23:49 GMT
#25
On July 24 2017 08:12 iopq wrote:
Elo works by individual game results, NOT series. This is because winning 2-0 is better than winning 2-1.

on the other hand u play differently when it's BO3 and when it's BO1, so i wouldn't be so fast with looking down at the current system.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
July 24 2017 00:05 GMT
#26
Btw lanos = lancerx and bjergsen = dewalt
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
July 24 2017 00:37 GMT
#27
On July 22 2017 20:33 Bonyth wrote:
SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner


This is accurate
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 06:16:36
July 24 2017 06:08 GMT
#28
Elo works by individual game results, NOT series. This is because winning 2-0 is better than winning 2-1.


on the other hand u play differently when it's BO3 and when it's BO1, so i wouldn't be so fast with looking down at the current system.


@iop , @Bonyth - this is how elo systems works always, everywhere, no way it will be changed whenever.


i think you forgot some results because i went down in the ranking after "haveatyou" tournament while i should climb in the ranking. Or am I missing something ?


@Kenzy everythin fine, you are up 29points, just this down/up arrows dont work perfect, its including last game only now. Working on it.

Btw lanos = lancerx and bjergsen = dewalt

@eOn Yeah, i knew Bjergsen is Dewalt so i added Bjergsen games as Dewalt games but no way i will be know every fastnick, its impossible. So if someone decide play on it its big probability his games will be counted to his new acc. Fixing forever manualy results is impossible.


This is accurate

@ProtosGG - Thx
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
July 24 2017 06:11 GMT
#29
Feels bad when no1 of your country cares enough to play BW competitively. Where you at, Ret?!
FBH #1!
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
July 24 2017 08:32 GMT
#30
Thanks for the effort!
KenZy
Profile Joined February 2009
France92 Posts
July 24 2017 09:38 GMT
#31
I think you forgot my match against dandy in the LB or alteast i don't see the match in my match history.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 10:39:15
July 24 2017 10:38 GMT
#32
On July 24 2017 18:38 KenZy wrote:
I think you forgot my match against dandy in the LB or alteast i don't see the match in my match history.


:o Index problem - fixed, also fixed points manually, game will be not showed in game list. Thanks.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 11:06:25
July 24 2017 11:04 GMT
#33
You should add # and %win ratio columns.
And display country name when mouse hovering the flags.
Calendaraka Foxhan
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
July 24 2017 11:05 GMT
#34
funny and nexus1 one are both funny_nexus I think
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
July 24 2017 11:09 GMT
#35
me vs lancerx missing too from lb game i guess? Hope you get this working, it seems cool!

Scan/Sonstar top foreigners ))
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
July 24 2017 11:27 GMT
#36
I think Zulu should look for support around this project.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
July 24 2017 12:19 GMT
#37
Winratio is now visible at ranking page. Profiles temporary off, fixing problems.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 12:56:12
July 24 2017 12:31 GMT
#38
This is a cool initiative. I really enjoyed gg.net's old top 30 ranking system, it actually motivated players to practice in order to improve their ranking.

Would be nice to see a big/prestigious site like TL.net implement some sort of foreign BW ranking if someone like Zulu (with help from others maybe) is willing to update it. That could help out the foreign scene and serve as extra motivation for people to practice, BW players in general are extremely competitive.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 24 2017 13:24 GMT
#39
I think the race pictures are somewhat unclear. Otherwise it looks nice!
maru G5L pls
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
July 24 2017 13:49 GMT
#40
Cool initiative, thanks! Favourited the list
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 24 2017 13:53 GMT
#41
my win vs sziky is still one of my best games ever played xD
oh man thats so long ago xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
July 24 2017 19:13 GMT
#42
On July 24 2017 15:08 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:

@eOn Yeah, i knew Bjergsen is Dewalt so i added Bjergsen games as Dewalt games but no way i will be know every fastnick, its impossible. So if someone decide play on it its big probability his games will be counted to his new acc. Fixing forever manualy results is impossible.


ill have a look if ill find my old lists, that might give you a better base number if you're willing to recalculate from there on out. however, i used 1500 to start out with, not 750 (i assume).
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
July 24 2017 22:41 GMT
#43
Scan has definitely lost more than 2 times. Is this factoring in all the Filthy BW and Have At You's ?
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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
July 24 2017 23:15 GMT
#44
He said, that he counts bo1/bo3/bo5 as one. I don't recall Scan losing more than the one series in the very first of your tours and one walkover, so seems pretty accurate to me.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland563 Posts
July 24 2017 23:30 GMT
#45
walkovers don't count, but he lost to me once :D
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States461 Posts
July 25 2017 00:02 GMT
#46
I LOVE THIS
How we will win in the period ahead.
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
July 25 2017 04:14 GMT
#47
:o this is nice
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
July 25 2017 04:16 GMT
#48
On July 25 2017 08:30 Bonyth wrote:
walkovers don't count, but he lost to me once :D

He got cheesed in one by Trutacz, so just those two?
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
July 25 2017 06:42 GMT
#49
2 losses vs Bonyth

http://defiler.ru/tourney/?t=483
https://smash.gg/tournament/have-at-you-5/events/brood-war-singles/brackets/
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
DracoMortuiVolantus
Profile Joined October 2016
68 Posts
July 25 2017 07:46 GMT
#50
this is epic idea.

from my side I hope that 100 years from now, everybody will think that flash was jaedong

https://www.facebook.com/notes/draco-volantus/resemblance/1631855700171418/

xD
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
July 25 2017 08:03 GMT
#51
As I suggested before, you really need to add a first column for numbers 1., 2., 3., etc
It's a ranking list, seeing the rank is kinda important.
Calendaraka Foxhan
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 08:12:10
July 25 2017 08:11 GMT
#52
Workin on it, but this simple thing will take some time becouse i want make some more advanced system.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 25 2017 09:01 GMT
#53
On July 25 2017 15:42 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
2 losses vs Bonyth

http://defiler.ru/tourney/?t=483
https://smash.gg/tournament/have-at-you-5/events/brood-war-singles/brackets/

1 loss vs trutacz in addition in hay2 i believe.

Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted?
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 09:40:40
July 25 2017 09:34 GMT
#54


Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted?


Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 25 2017 09:45 GMT
#55
On July 25 2017 18:34 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Show nested quote +


Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted?


Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT.


The bo3 i lost to bonyth was zvp both 2 games in defiler tour.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8046 Posts
July 25 2017 13:35 GMT
#56
On July 25 2017 08:15 Cryoc wrote:
He said, that he counts bo1/bo3/bo5 as one. I don't recall Scan losing more than the one series in the very first of your tours and one walkover, so seems pretty accurate to me.


haha , right now i am watching your tutorial on siege expand Cryoc !
Nice to see you in that list !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
July 25 2017 14:06 GMT
#57
On July 25 2017 18:45 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 18:34 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:


Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted?


Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT.


The bo3 i lost to bonyth was zvp both 2 games in defiler tour.



Offrace games will be count ofc. No reason to do not.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 25 2017 14:09 GMT
#58
Well, there is no reason to not count official games from Defiler / HAT or any kind of tournament, just because you've played offrace.
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
July 25 2017 15:47 GMT
#59
Couldn't find the original DB with the 800 nicks anymore, sorry. The entire list would be: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MGrXeS5NJsPcrsVDGKU2ebYJOBNmXHhrtBramikHjcI/edit?usp=sharing

last updated: 20th August 2015

maybe of help: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Smurf/List#Post_Beta_Foreigners

Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
July 25 2017 17:00 GMT
#60
On July 25 2017 18:34 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Show nested quote +


Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted?


Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT.

Weird, I looked up the first couple of tours, but I cannot find the bracket in question. Something must have changed in the brackets after the tour was played. I am 100% sure, that Scan lost vs TT in one of the first Tours as I played in that tour and watched the streamed games between them.

On July 25 2017 22:35 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 08:15 Cryoc wrote:
He said, that he counts bo1/bo3/bo5 as one. I don't recall Scan losing more than the one series in the very first of your tours and one walkover, so seems pretty accurate to me.


haha , right now i am watching your tutorial on siege expand Cryoc !
Nice to see you in that list !

Thanks, but I don't know why I am ranked so high honestly, probably only because I played in more tours than many others. I am much worse as my terrible winrate shows. I hope my tutorial helps you.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
July 25 2017 18:23 GMT
#61
Scan lost once to trutacz 1-2 due to "lag" with 2 lurker all-ins or something. Then scan lost to bonyth twice? Once a walkover, once 1-2 iirc.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 23:05:24
July 25 2017 21:28 GMT
#62
Didnt i say i lost to trutacz in somewhere?
Im on my phone. Please excuse my laziness.
I believe it should be 3 losses.


PS: just got on computer.
https://smash.gg/tournament/filthy-bw-cup-weekly-1/events/brood-war-singles/brackets
Filthy BW Weekly 1: Scan 1-2 Trutacz
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
July 25 2017 21:34 GMT
#63
"Foreigners elo ranking" and Scan is first :D
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
July 26 2017 16:49 GMT
#64
What about adding links to their streams for those who have one.
Calendaraka Foxhan
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
July 26 2017 19:13 GMT
#65
On July 26 2017 06:34 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
"Foreigners elo ranking" and Scan is first :D


www.captiongenerator.com
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8046 Posts
July 26 2017 21:52 GMT
#66
anyone knows who is the player irk-.- , who plays on europe ?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
July 29 2017 19:21 GMT
#67
UPDATED : Op [SK] @USEast tour
+ koreans
+ few other things
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 05 2017 20:19 GMT
#68
This still gonna be updated? Looks nice.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
August 05 2017 20:23 GMT
#69
Yes i was updating it, just didnt spam here
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 05 2017 21:11 GMT
#70
I should be #1, what is this.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 05 2017 22:04 GMT
#71
On August 06 2017 05:23 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Yes i was updating it, just didnt spam here


Ah, well bumps for you. This is awesome and I hope you keep this project running for tournaments in SC:R.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
August 05 2017 23:11 GMT
#72
It would be nice if you could add an info, when the ranking was last updated.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
August 05 2017 23:48 GMT
#73
Great job, aFF]ZuluNAtion[!
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
August 05 2017 23:53 GMT
#74
--- Nuked ---
Writer
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-06 14:10:39
August 06 2017 14:00 GMT
#75
Thanks all, i will definitly (very slowly) long term develop it. So things like #possition or last update (or smth like it) etc will be added in future. Just i am not even programmer and doin it totally for fun in free time.

@Ty2 i was thinkin about it, but this tour is open, didnt find any reason to dont add it. So for today every open lvl tournament will be probably added. Only tournament like "D-C rank only" where skill lvl is limited will be not included. Mb it will be changed or mb not, who knows
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
August 06 2017 14:24 GMT
#76
Maybe add nationwars too?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-06 14:42:51
August 06 2017 14:42 GMT
#77
]2eti]2ed should be 4-3 in games (unless you are counting series only) with wins in that SK tour. Is also the same person as CashMeOusside (me).
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
August 06 2017 14:57 GMT
#78
I am not able to invigilate every akas so if u play on fn or few akas u probably will be counted on few akas for obvious reason. Olny series result are counted.

@Eon what do u mean? I dont see any nation wars tounament now.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
August 06 2017 15:01 GMT
#79
Iccup nationwars ? They had prize and it was a regular thing that ended not long ago.you have results on iccup and liquipedia i believe
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-06 15:21:51
August 06 2017 15:10 GMT
#80
Its incuding only tuornaments finished after 1 January 2017, and now i am updating only "live"

Probably tomorrow i will also add filter to hide "single tournaments fns" with means only ppl who played 5 or more games will be visible. After playing 5 matches you acc will become visible with full stats.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
August 06 2017 15:21 GMT
#81
On August 07 2017 00:10 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Its incuding only tuornaments finished after 1 January 2017, and now i am updating only "live"

Is our day of luck then? Iccup nation wars season 2 finished in february i believe
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-06 15:49:20
August 06 2017 15:47 GMT
#82
Is this anywhere here?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Leagues/Full_Tournaments_List

AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
August 06 2017 16:02 GMT
#83
Weird i cant find a liquipedia here is play off thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/519306-iccup-nation-league-2-playoffs
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
August 06 2017 16:15 GMT
#84
I didnt find it also, and now its anyway too late to add this.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
August 06 2017 19:40 GMT
#85
Thank you for the feedback and clarification, make sense Also thank you for your work.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
August 13 2017 12:46 GMT
#86
Updated:
-last SK tour
-players with less than 4 games are hidden (anti 1 tour smurfs system)
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
August 13 2017 12:48 GMT
#87
On August 13 2017 21:46 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Updated:
-last SK tour
-players with less than 4 games are hidden (anti 1 tour smurfs system)


Did you update from hay tournament also?
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
August 13 2017 13:08 GMT
#88
If u mean hay#9 then yes.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
August 13 2017 13:19 GMT
#89
Just my 2 cents: I think it would look better if you reduced the lines height.
Calendaraka Foxhan
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 12 2017 22:59 GMT
#90
I want to bump this because this is still such an excellent and cool resource.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
LyDDa
Profile Joined December 2016
Germany34 Posts
September 12 2017 23:35 GMT
#91
Good idea. I didn't know about that...
LyDDa geil
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
September 12 2017 23:37 GMT
#92
This is really cool!! Awesome idea ^^
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
September 13 2017 01:05 GMT
#93
That's cool, I don't remember playing those games but w/e =P
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 13 2017 08:12 GMT
#94
If you need any help in any way with updates Zulu I'd like to offer my help.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 13 2017 10:45 GMT
#95
i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly
also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list

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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 15:28:05
September 13 2017 15:27 GMT
#96
Thanks, im still (very [very very]) slowly working on this project, just most work last times was on backend (except race icons lol) to make it a bit easier to do updates. Also i am just thinkin about small problems like, should i include tourneys like PAN-AM CL, and how to dont mix ppl becouse there is alot of ppl with same nicknames like "Dragon" i know already 3 ppl with this nickname and i see there is also 2 other Dragons in PAN-AM CL etc etc. But as u see its not abandonned, im updating it from time to time, mostly 1 time per week.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
September 13 2017 15:58 GMT
#97
On September 13 2017 19:45 Drake wrote:
i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly
also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list

It's up to tournaments' organizers. If they say "region lock" or "no Koreans" then, I won't touch. Don't worry.

I grew up with this TeamLiquid SC community and contributed a lot of stuff about Korean News, Build Orders, Tricks and interesting videos of matches. Please don't lead this that i'm like a "Hunter" how some others participated(0 connection with Foreign community, but randomly appeared).

I have even saw EU vs EU is even lagging each other sometimes(From Draco's stream vs OctZerg on Extra High latency in his ladder game).

Some Europeans don't even lag at all(playing on low latency with KR).
Not sure why you are starting up a fire again when TL staffs have stopped people's insane discussion during FilthyCup, HaveAtYou, Defiler, BaseTrade, ETC.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 13 2017 17:04 GMT
#98
On September 14 2017 00:58 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 19:45 Drake wrote:
i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly
also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list

It's up to tournaments' organizers. If they say "region lock" or "no Koreans" then, I won't touch. Don't worry.

I grew up with this TeamLiquid SC community and contributed a lot of stuff about Korean News, Build Orders, Tricks and interesting videos of matches. Please don't lead this that i'm like a "Hunter" how some others participated(0 connection with Foreign community, but randomly appeared).

I have even saw EU vs EU is even lagging each other sometimes(From Draco's stream vs OctZerg on Extra High latency in his ladder game).

Some Europeans don't even lag at all(playing on low latency with KR).
Not sure why you are starting up a fire again when TL staffs have stopped people's insane discussion during FilthyCup, HaveAtYou, Defiler, BaseTrade, ETC.

Id just ignore the people nowadays who wanna cry about you playing. Back in the day it was a privilege to play good players and people learned from it, but now i guess its just whine till the better players get banned i guess
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
September 13 2017 17:15 GMT
#99
On September 14 2017 02:04 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2017 00:58 LaStScan wrote:
On September 13 2017 19:45 Drake wrote:
i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly
also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list

It's up to tournaments' organizers. If they say "region lock" or "no Koreans" then, I won't touch. Don't worry.

I grew up with this TeamLiquid SC community and contributed a lot of stuff about Korean News, Build Orders, Tricks and interesting videos of matches. Please don't lead this that i'm like a "Hunter" how some others participated(0 connection with Foreign community, but randomly appeared).

I have even saw EU vs EU is even lagging each other sometimes(From Draco's stream vs OctZerg on Extra High latency in his ladder game).

Some Europeans don't even lag at all(playing on low latency with KR).
Not sure why you are starting up a fire again when TL staffs have stopped people's insane discussion during FilthyCup, HaveAtYou, Defiler, BaseTrade, ETC.

Id just ignore the people nowadays who wanna cry about you playing. Back in the day it was a privilege to play good players and people learned from it, but now i guess its just whine till the better players get banned i guess


I mean hey, it worked for SC2. :D

Scan most definitely deserves his place here. And his stream is nice.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
September 13 2017 18:37 GMT
#100
If you swap nickname Scan to Flash/JD/Bisu then ppl will be very happy to see this players in every foreigner tournament, i think this should be end of this offtopic here
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 08:40:22
September 28 2017 08:40 GMT
#101
Updated for last ~20 days @ LOL how many events in this time.

http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/

Pan-American Team League: Season 1/Week1-4
Clash for Char #3
ESL SC Remastered Cup #4
OSC SC:R SEA Weekly #4
OSC SC:R Open #3
Clan SK Tourney @ US East 9/15/17
Clash for Char #4
ESL SC Remastered Cup #5
SC:R Italian Esports Open 2017 - Qualifier #1 Europe
BaseTrade Remastered Open 2
OSC SC:R SEA Weekly #5
OSC SC:R Open #4
Clash for Char #5
ESL SC Remastered Cup #6
Mediamarkt SC:R Moscow Offline
SC:R Italian Esports Open 2017 - Qualifier #2 Europe
OSC SC:R SEA Weekly #6


If someone know flags/races players with world/wrong/flag or wrong race etc plz post it here. Thanks.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
September 28 2017 09:01 GMT
#102
can you add ranking number to the ranking?
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
September 28 2017 10:24 GMT
#103
Done
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 29 2017 14:21 GMT
#104
Sweet as always.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 15:21:43
September 29 2017 14:58 GMT
#105
Now u can click on flags to filter by coutry or by race clicking race icon.
So can anyone help and post here flags for this ppl:
http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/countryladder.php?country=Unknown
and race for this ppl:
http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/raceladder.php?race=unknown
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
awerti
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 16:00:28
September 29 2017 15:57 GMT
#106
It's a really sweet tool, thanks for building it, and also keeping it up to date

What's the format to enter results for a single tournament? XML?
And would it be possible to see a list of tournaments (chronologically), and see results for a specific tournament? Say OSC SC:R Open #3, or Clash for Char #4?
For Aiur!
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 17:58:12
September 29 2017 17:09 GMT
#107
What's the format to enter results for a single tournament? XML?


I am entering results by adding match one by one via small cms at backend or just manual fixing on database.

And would it be possible to see a list of tournaments (chronologically), and see results for a specific tournament? Say OSC SC:R Open #3, or Clash for Char #4?


I think it is possible to do it in future but the "to do list" is already very long so i am not expecting to make it soon, but who knows, this idea seems very nice.
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
awerti
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 19:19:27
September 29 2017 19:15 GMT
#108
Could you share source code? Post it on github perhaps? I've never contributed to BW projects, but I would gladly have a look, maybe submit an update or help with something else. I assume it's PHP.
For Aiur!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
September 29 2017 19:57 GMT
#109
how am I so high honestly. I lost a bunch of tourneys round one mostly when I was out of shape. sapsoe those were not counted
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 29 2017 20:10 GMT
#110
Why am I not #1 on this list?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
September 29 2017 20:13 GMT
#111
On September 30 2017 04:57 sicklucker wrote:
how am I so high honestly. I lost a bunch of tourneys round one mostly when I was out of shape. sapsoe those were not counted


I dont see any "high" Canadian there, woot?

http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/countryladder.php?country=Canada
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
September 29 2017 20:20 GMT
#112
Seems a lot of the matches/people from PATL are not listed ):
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 20:45:04
September 29 2017 20:44 GMT
#113
People with less than 4 games are hidden but games are counted, when on your acc will be more than 3 games your nickname will be visible.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
October 20 2017 15:09 GMT
#114
When is the site going to be back up?
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 18:37:32
October 23 2017 18:37 GMT
#115
Its back, also added some kind of games log. Going to update results today.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 25 2017 18:37 GMT
#116
Hey poegim thanks for your efforts, this is really cool

Just want to add some flags/races that I know of. DragOn (me) is Canadian PZ racepicker, Ultra is chilean T, Hawk is american Z, Zancco and gosudark are both peruvian P, Lumire is american Z, Xions is peruvian P, Castle is canadian P, Yugox is peruvian P, Ranged is american P, Cute and Aegyo are the same person canadian Z, Target-x17 is canadian Z, Bylat is russian, Babo is chilean Z, Lumix is american T, Jaehoonbeast is american racepicker PZ, Geniuspain is american P
aka DragOn[NaS]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 25 2017 18:38 GMT
#117
And I also dont think Scan, Shinee, Mong, etc any1 with a korean flag, should be on this ranking. But thats your choice, im just happy it exists
aka DragOn[NaS]
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation369 Posts
October 25 2017 18:46 GMT
#118
wow this app is awesome!
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation369 Posts
October 25 2017 18:58 GMT
#119
i found a bug. As far as i know walk overs or other unplayed games should not be counted as rated games. Is it possible to fix?
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 25 2017 20:40 GMT
#120
Isn't Hawk from USEast? He was like n.jOy_Hawk or something, American Zerg.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
October 25 2017 20:55 GMT
#121
Thanks all for help.

@spx, It is almost impossible to distinguish which match was wo and which one was played, becouse admins of most tournaments dont have tools to indicate it or just are to lazy, probably this 1st. From my perspective i cant blind shooting, becouse it might be hurtful for somebody.

@DragOn, u are as a random becouse there is 5 race options, PTZR and unknown. Thanks for info about players!


Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 13:24:39
November 02 2017 13:23 GMT
#122
ayyyy whats good im on this list
|Terran|
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 13:43:40
November 02 2017 13:43 GMT
#123
On July 22 2017 20:13 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
@Netto click on nickname


Important question, is SuGo korean ? As i remember he is korean livin in US, does he have korean citizenship ?

On July 22 2017 20:33 Bonyth wrote:
SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner


I know this is from the first page and all, but I think it is important to clear something up; SuGo is a Lvl 99 Wizard, full sperglord, so I request that you change his flag to represent him and his true origins.

As you can see today is an important day for me and this is all that I ask for.

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 03 2017 04:54 GMT
#124
patl should be added!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
November 03 2017 06:18 GMT
#125
On November 03 2017 13:54 sicklucker wrote:
patl should be added!

Pretty sure it is! Just may not be current + people under 4 (?) games are not listed.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 03 2017 08:55 GMT
#126
my record would be better if it was added. probably just because the admin of that leauge lost interest and didnt submit alot of the results
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
November 03 2017 15:35 GMT
#127
On November 03 2017 17:55 sicklucker wrote:
my record would be better if it was added. probably just because the admin of that leauge lost interest and didnt submit alot of the results

The results are very much behind in PATL but he promised to have them done by the last week.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
November 03 2017 18:59 GMT
#128
Its including PATL except PATL liquipedia site seems a bit not up to date or just matches are not played in time. Also as u can see i dont have much time to updating it day by day, now just like 2 times / month. No motivation last times #winteriscoming.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
November 07 2017 18:40 GMT
#129
Updated last week games, and i think its good place to say international database reached over 1000 players nicknames. Most of them are invisible, few is just fns/aka's but still its a big numer.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 07 2017 19:12 GMT
#130
Awesome, thnx for your work
aka DragOn[NaS]
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
November 07 2017 23:00 GMT
#131
I wonder if all tournaments and everything is weighed the same? Surprised to see notforu so low on the list despite placing well in the last few tournaments/lans
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 00:14:50
November 08 2017 00:06 GMT
#132
I'm fairly certain everything is weighted the same, that it's just about the ranking of the players you face. And he's not so low, this puts him at #8 outside korea. Tbh that looks about right, even if he did great in the italian tourney.

I actually feel that if you look at this list and don't just look at the ELO, but also on amount of games played, win rate, and region played in, it ends up being a pretty damn solid indicator. That said, even if you don't, Bonyth, Dewalt, TT, Eon, Dandy as top 5? I'm on board with that. The next 10 being Terror Gorynich Gargoyle Sziky Ty2 Naugrim Koget Dragon Mana Michael? I'd prolly swap 2-3 of those for 2-3 of the next ones (Ret, Kenzy and Marwin), but it really is fairly accurate. Obviously doesn't accurately reflect the skill of players who have hardly played any tournaments, but for the ones who register for ~2 every week, it really does.

It doesn't really have much meaning when you look outside the top 25 because there some players with much fewer games end up being represented just through having one good recent tournament run, but for the top 25, I really feel it is quite accurate.

And for the record I think out of the top 50, I'm prolly one of the most wrongly rated players. I dunno if I think I'm better than anyone above me (certainly none of the europeans), and there are lots of players below that I would consider a significant favorite against me if I were to play them.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 07:51:52
November 08 2017 07:45 GMT
#133
I think its more about games count, i think most ppl can reach real rating after 20-25 games if u are not extremly unlucky/lucky (ex. Cadenzie played like half of games vs top20 players in 1st rounds). But if i will hide players without 20 games then 99% ppl will be invisible.

About g0rynich. He is "low" becouse he lost 2 games vs firebathero (in winner bracket final and grand final) who was technically new player in ranking with low elo.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany99 Posts
November 08 2017 07:46 GMT
#134
why are koreans still no. 1 even if they are "foreigners"? :D
kinda right, kinda wrong
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 08:34:59
November 08 2017 08:33 GMT
#135
On November 08 2017 16:46 duplex__ wrote:
why are koreans still no. 1 even if they are "foreigners"? :D

Because they play in foreign tournaments sometimes? Because flag != race (Koreans living in America for example)?

EDIT: Actually it's just to make foreigners upset, I'm sure of it.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
November 08 2017 08:52 GMT
#136
Becouse it has been changed to international section with means if any Korean plays in international tournament he is also counted.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
November 08 2017 10:09 GMT
#137
It's funny to have a case where international elo is the lesser ranking to the national ranking of a single country. StarCraft is indeed strange but beautiful.
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
November 08 2017 13:41 GMT
#138
On November 02 2017 22:43 Jealous wrote:
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On July 22 2017 20:13 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
@Netto click on nickname


Important question, is SuGo korean ? As i remember he is korean livin in US, does he have korean citizenship ?

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On July 22 2017 20:33 Bonyth wrote:
SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner


I know this is from the first page and all, but I think it is important to clear something up; SuGo is a Lvl 99 Wizard, full sperglord, so I request that you change his flag to represent him and his true origins.

As you can see today is an important day for me and this is all that I ask for.

User was warned for this post


Lol wtf
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 17:38:30
November 15 2017 17:22 GMT
#139
Excuse me for spam, but players profiles are available again, with history highest peak, matchups win ratio, games history.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 15 2017 18:00 GMT
#140
On November 16 2017 02:22 Poegim wrote:
Excuse me for spam, but players profiles are available again, with history highest peak, matchups win ratio, games history.


Holy shit nice job man.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
November 15 2017 18:33 GMT
#141
Just had a look at the new features. It seems the players win/lose a lot of points even though they are already above the usual threshold for intitial estimation. This isn't really the classic elo number, is it?

This is by no means criticism, just interested in what you used.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 18:52:41
November 15 2017 18:50 GMT
#142
It depends of oponent rank. For example Bonyth will win like ~5 or Scan only ~1 point beating 800elo player or lose like 50-70 points in reverse situation. Playing vs equal lvl player is like 20-30 win/lose points.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 15 2017 18:52 GMT
#143
Hi poegim I love you. Good job on this.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 21:27:47
November 15 2017 19:17 GMT
#144
what gets added to this? I beat two top 5 foreigners in a week one in sk team leauge and one in a weekly tourney. I think what im saying is sk stuff needs to get added. The clan leauges new so that makes sense tho.

http://clansk.challonge.com/xrages8k

here this one got skipped somehow gimme dem sweet sweet elo points
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 15 2017 20:33 GMT
#145
Nice update

Ive got some more flags for you
elcausha = peruvian
scorpionrider = swedish protoss
200eapm = american terran
vulture-x17 = american terran
leo = peruvian zerg
ihufa = danish zerg
zerglol = american zerg
magus = chilean zerg
cruzago = chilean protoss
inca = peruvian terran
pro = italian protoss
white = chilean protoss
fazers = american protoss


aka DragOn[NaS]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 20:36:08
November 15 2017 20:35 GMT
#146
Thank you DragOn.If some one is interested to have a photo, plz just send me link in msg.
How nice profile looks wiith photo example: http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/player_stats.php?playerID=10
You dont need to cute it or smth.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
November 15 2017 23:03 GMT
#147
No we have an answer to the question of the best foreigner

+ Show Spoiler +
Scan
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
November 17 2017 19:10 GMT
#148
On November 16 2017 05:33 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Nice update

Ive got some more flags for you
elcausha = peruvian
scorpionrider = swedish protoss
200eapm = american terran
vulture-x17 = american terran
leo = peruvian zerg
ihufa = danish zerg
zerglol = american zerg
magus = chilean zerg
cruzago = chilean protoss
inca = peruvian terran
pro = italian protoss
white = chilean protoss
fazers = american protoss




ScorpionRider is = Bischu btw
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
May 05 2018 04:46 GMT
#149
what happened to it?
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 07:00:43
May 05 2018 05:47 GMT
#150
I stopped play sc, glcw didnt work out, i had problems to rewrite everythin to joomla api, finally i lost interest. Database is ok, i just didnt update it since january/february.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
May 05 2018 07:58 GMT
#151
On May 05 2018 14:47 Poegim wrote:
I stopped play sc, glcw didnt work out, i had problems to rewrite everythin to joomla api, finally i lost interest. Database is ok, i just didnt update it since january/february.

Would be cool if you can share the code or database on github so that your work is not for nothing
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
May 18 2018 11:35 GMT
#152
I can give "someone trusted" access to "admin panel" and learn how to use it, to keep it updated if ppl are interested.
Im trying to find time to do it by myself but with no successes as u see. 2 fulltime jobs, kid, et cetera, makes it inpossible.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
May 18 2018 11:45 GMT
#153
If TL admins can help you and integrate it with Liquidpedia, would be great.
TL+ Member
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
May 19 2018 02:57 GMT
#154
I found the foreigner ranking really cool hope the people with necessary skills/authority can make something happen
aka DragOn[NaS]
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
May 19 2018 16:58 GMT
#155
Sent you a PM
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
May 20 2018 11:49 GMT
#156
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Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-31 15:38:18
July 31 2018 15:35 GMT
#157
Finally after almost 6 months, i updated it. There was no volunteers so it takes some time.

What has been done:

Have At You! #19
BSL CONTINENTS WARS EU VA NA D2
BSL CONTINENTS WARS EU VA NA D1
Biohazard Super Cup Q6
Biohazard Super Cup Q5
Have At You! #18
Biohazard Super Cup Q4
Biohazard Super Cup Q3
Card cup w7
Biohazard Super Cup Q2
Biohazard Super Cup Q1
Card cup w6
Have At You! #17
Card cup w5
BSL 4 FINALS AND 3RD PLACE MATCH
Card cup w4
Have At You! #16
BSL 4 SEMIFINALS
Card cup w3
BSL 4 RO8
RaceWars 3
Card cup w2
Have At You! #15
RaceWars 2
Card cup w1
BSL4 GROUP D
Foreign Brood War Cup #1
BSL4 GROUP C
RaceWars 1
BSL4 GROUP B
MOSCOW Old School LAN
BSL4 GROUP A
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r7
Have At You! #14
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r6
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r5
Have At You! #13
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r4
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r3
Have At You! #12
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r2
BSL4 Swiss Tournament r1
BSL PRO #4
BSL KOTH FEB22
The Clash for Char #16
BSL PRO #3

Also some small changes has been included.
To be visible on ranking list player has to play at least ̶5̶ 10 games. Last game must be played in last ̶6̶ 9 months. Players under 700 points are now invisible on list.

However, you can check other ppl by clicking their nickname on game lists et cetera even if they does not meet the requirements.

Some admin plz if u can change link in #1 to, i cant edit it for unknown reason:

http://rankgim.eu
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
July 31 2018 15:45 GMT
#158
Wow. Incredible work! Any open platform where people can contribute?
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
July 31 2018 15:52 GMT
#159
Very nice! Cool option would be a button to show nonkorean rankings.
BroodWar forever
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-31 19:02:29
July 31 2018 18:40 GMT
#160
YO fuck yeah so happy this has been updated!! thank you poegim

btw I think there is a slight error, everyones BSL NA vs EU continents wars matches got recorded except mine, dragon vs gargoyle im not seeing.
aka DragOn[NaS]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-31 19:03:00
July 31 2018 18:58 GMT
#161
Yeah, i had some problem with this game, by mistake both of you get minus points, so i removed it from game list and will calculate it out of box, then add to list with proper game date. ill fix it in 2-3h. But still some variation of this mistake will by in the air ; )
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-31 19:43:54
July 31 2018 19:02 GMT
#162
I agree a non korean ranking option would be sweet also. Is there a way I can donate to keep this active?

Also got some info on flags etc. JaehoonBeast and Beast (from BSL NA vs EU) are the same person, american racepicker. st.cristiger is peruvian. peacemaker is chilean zerg. veganinja is canadian protoss. rOuta I believe is finnish. UCSD[sosin] must be american. Aegyo (BSL4) and Cute (BSL NA vs EU) are the same person too, canadian zerg
aka DragOn[NaS]
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1032 Posts
July 31 2018 19:58 GMT
#163
Im from the (very) old era, just restarted following the scene (since a few months). Was interested in knowing what happened to those old good players? Thanks

Testie
Kiwi
Kalin
Mondragon
Fisheye
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
July 31 2018 20:21 GMT
#164
On August 01 2018 04:58 TornadoSteve wrote:
Im from the (very) old era, just restarted following the scene (since a few months). Was interested in knowing what happened to those old good players? Thanks

Testie
Kiwi
Kalin
Mondragon
Fisheye

Testie streams Heroes of Newerth on twitch.tv
Kalin still plays a bit
Not sure about the others
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
July 31 2018 21:16 GMT
#165
On August 01 2018 04:02 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
I agree a non korean ranking option would be sweet also. Is there a way I can donate to keep this active?

Also got some info on flags etc. JaehoonBeast and Beast (from BSL NA vs EU) are the same person, american racepicker. st.cristiger is peruvian. peacemaker is chilean zerg. veganinja is canadian protoss. rOuta I believe is finnish. UCSD[sosin] must be american. Aegyo (BSL4) and Cute (BSL NA vs EU) are the same person too, canadian zerg



As long as there is no "50%" or more of Koreans i dnt see any sense, but mb in some future. Thanks for info about flags, i updated it, wasnt sure about Beast, but knew that Cute is aegyo . Gentlemans dont talking about money, im not sure today about future of this, but maybe i ll add some donate button ... someday.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
July 31 2018 22:53 GMT
#166
Wow, amazing job.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-31 23:11:56
July 31 2018 23:11 GMT
#167
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Writer
funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
August 01 2018 03:24 GMT
#168
I never got why foreigners even got a ELO ranking, if you weren't Idra and actually playing on entus where does your ELO average even come from when you haven't been in any official korean tours.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
August 01 2018 04:41 GMT
#169
AMazing job dude!!! q8D and Tech- are the same person (keep tech) and hes protoss, maybe you can add stpl (next round) and bwcl (next season)

keep going the good work so nice!
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-01 06:02:48
August 01 2018 06:00 GMT
#170
Thx White, i ll unix this acc's.

About BWCL - yeah im very sad i didnt include it, but i didnt know that now results are on iccup site (my bad - blind old eyes), deffinitly will include it in future if there will be next seasons, playoffs, anythin. Im very happy now BWCL have place when u can clearly check results.

STPL - Liquipdia page wasnt updated since week5 of round1 as i remember. So i decided to not add it if i am unable to add all games.

Can anyone cofirm, cuz i am not sure, Zarrr is Favorit right?
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
August 01 2018 06:41 GMT
#171
dunno about zarrr but this page http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/534275-stpl-r-and-s-shinhan-tank-proleague-18-19-season is updated by qikz regularly, all the round 1 and 2 results are there to see easily
aka DragOn[NaS]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
August 01 2018 07:02 GMT
#172
Holy moly, probably check 3 threads with stpl in name but not this oni. Now I get what r&s means lol. Well, thinking seriously about do it one more time with both of this clan tours, but must check is it even possible.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
August 01 2018 07:32 GMT
#173
Great effort, thanks :-)
TL+ Member
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
August 01 2018 08:14 GMT
#174
On August 01 2018 16:02 Poegim wrote:
Holy moly, probably check 3 threads with stpl in name but not this oni. Now I get what r&s means lol. Well, thinking seriously about do it one more time with both of this clan tours, but must check is it even possible.


Anyway if you cant add them now, you can add the results of next 2 rounds of stpl and next bwcl season now that u know where to find them ^^
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
August 01 2018 08:28 GMT
#175
Yeah, but its big amount of games, of many mid-level players who are unable to play in every tournament more than 1-2 rounds.

Need game dates of STPL from mr. Qikz and find february copy of database, then i will do that probably.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
August 21 2018 14:11 GMT
#176
Added some small stats: http://rankgim.eu/stats.php
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
August 21 2018 15:48 GMT
#177
On August 21 2018 23:11 Poegim wrote:
Added some small stats: http://rankgim.eu/stats.php


Yo, you have Napoleon as French on your site. Hes Finnish tho.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 21:02:15
October 17 2018 21:01 GMT
#178
Updated:

StarLadder Pro Series Ro16Swiss R3
Biohazard Final Event
RCC - The Arena Week 20
StarLadder Pro Series Ro16Swiss R4
StarLadder Pro Series playoffs
Have At You 20
BWCL 46 - WEEK1
StarLadder Pro Series final
BWCL 46 – WEEK2
Have At You 21
BWCL 46 – WEEK3
BSL5 CONTINENTAL WARS 2 NS VS SA
BWCL 46 – WEEK4
Have At You 22
BWCL 46 – WEEK5
NA BATTLE 3 R1
NA BATTLE 3 R2+final

Congratz for Mr. Eonzerg for make new record of global history highest peak (1443elo).

Yesterday BSL5 tour is not included (mb Eon will make one more record?) Becouse 1. im waiting for BWCL W6 for finish, 2 tour is not already done.

P.S. Im sorry Chilean Starcraft League, but... half of nicknames in this tour is fake flash, fake bisu et cetera, and there was no available match dates anywhere.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
October 17 2018 21:31 GMT
#179
i didnt play vs gorynich in the biohazard cup third place,it was a walk over,also i see that koreans re gone from the ranks but they re still affecting elo,also i didnt realize the moment i reached rank 1,any idea how long i have been in that position? thanks for this amazing work
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
October 17 2018 21:42 GMT
#180
Every wo is counted since long time, There is no way to check when it was wo and when not sometimes, so i decide to count all wo's, not randomly when i know this single game was wo or not. Also, many ppl wo intentional in tournaments, when they see some super gosu in same bracket, it would be unfair for better players to not count it. You reach top1 in last update 2-3months ago. Koreans are just hidden, also since same update 2-3months ago.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 17 2018 22:45 GMT
#181
nice update glad to see BWCL included now. no STPL though?
aka DragOn[NaS]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 07:45:52
October 18 2018 07:43 GMT
#182
STPL is great, but there is no good place where you can get data, the topic of r & s has no dates, it's hard to find out what's going on (mb there are some dates anywhere but it's hard to find[?]). With BWCL it's different, you enter a page, you choose which week, you have given the date, who with who to whom he played etc.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
October 18 2018 08:38 GMT
#183
I agree STPL is a bit harder to find results.

here are all the results of all three rounds so far: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/534275-stpl-r-and-s-shinhan-tank-proleague-18-19-season

But they indeed do not include the play dates. So I compiled them here for you. If you keep this list with the thread above, it should be fairly straight forward. But really, qikz should just export this shit to a google sheet or smt .


Round 1
-------

Week 1 dM vs Red and iRk vs WHITE - 26/03/2018
Week 1 NW vs SK-B and SouL vs NaS - 28/03/2018
Week 1 TL vs SK-A and ReV vs aSh - 30/03/2018

Week 2 dM vs SK-A and ReV vs iRk - 02/04/2018
Week 2 SK-B vs Red and WHITE vs NaS - 04/04/2018
Week 2 pSi vs TL and FBW vs aSh - 06/04/2018

Week 3 pSi vs SK-A and iRk vs NaS - 10/04/2018
Week 3 dM vs SK-B and FBW vs ReV - 11/04/2018
Week 3 dM vs SK-B and FBW vs ReV 13/04/2018

Week 4 TL vs Red and iRk vs FBW - 17/04/2018
Week 4 dM vs pSi and aSh vs WHITE - 18/04/2018
Week 4 dM vs SK-A and SouL vs ReV - 20/04/2018

Week 5 Red vs SK-A and WHITE vs ReV - 23/04/2018
Week 5 nW vs pSi and aSh vs NaS - 25/04/2018
Week 5 TL vs SK-B and SouL vs FBW - 27/04/2018

Week 6 Red vs pSi and iRk vs SouL - 02/05/2018
Week 6 dM vs NW and FBW vs WHITE and ReV vs NaS - 04/05/2018

Week 7 dM vs SK-B and FBW vs NaS - 09/05/2018
Week 7 iRk vs aSh and WHIITE vs SouL - 11/05/2018

Round 1 Tiebreak// iRk vs WHITE - 21/05/2018


Round 1 Playoffs / NW vs iRk / dM vs WHITE - 01/06/2018
Round 1 / Third Place Match / NW vs dM - 07/06/2018
Round 1 / Playoff Finals / iRk vs WHITE - 08/06/2018


Round 2
-------

Week 1 – 17/06/2018
Week 2 – 08/07/2018
Week 3 – 15/07/2018
Week 4 – 22/07/2018
Week 5 – 29/07/2018
Week 6 - 05/07/2018
Week 7 – 12/08/2018

Semi Final A / Red vs NW - 05/09/2018
Semi Final B / SouL vs WHITE - 07/09/2018
3rd Place / Red vs SouL - 12/09/2018
Finals / NetWars vs WHITE - 14/09/2018

Round 3
-------

Week 1 – 23/09/2018
Week 2 – 30/09/2018
Week 3 – 07/10/2018
Week 4 – 14/10/2018
Week 5 – 21/10/2018
Week 6 – 28/10/2018
Week 7 – 04/11/2018
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 08:58:40
October 18 2018 08:58 GMT
#184
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https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
October 18 2018 09:01 GMT
#185
On October 18 2018 16:43 Poegim wrote:
STPL is great, but there is no good place where you can get data, the topic of r & s has no dates, it's hard to find out what's going on (mb there are some dates anywhere but it's hard to find[?]). With BWCL it's different, you enter a page, you choose which week, you have given the date, who with who to whom he played etc.


Shouldn't Qikz have some kind of a master data base? Like a big Excel file for all that?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 09:16:34
October 18 2018 09:15 GMT
#186
Ye mb he have, but i cant include past games, if i add some event fom ex: 10.10.2018 i cant add any games played before that date, it is (almost)impossible to perform a backward calculation in such a way, I would have to move the whole database back to this match and calculate from the beginning. But the site is not automated, i am adding game by game manualy, entering dates and players one by one.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
October 18 2018 11:08 GMT
#187
I don't think qikz has that. I think the production you see on his casts is a nicely hacked set of scripts that just do enough to display the overlays.

Poegim, I really encourage you to decouple the data from the elo ranking. That way you can also graph elo over time.

Have a table with just the player/score/date, and let your algorithm crawl over this table from the beginning of time to now, creating a new table with date/player/elo.

I really like your initiative.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 11:22:21
October 18 2018 11:21 GMT
#188
On October 18 2018 18:01 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 16:43 Poegim wrote:
STPL is great, but there is no good place where you can get data, the topic of r & s has no dates, it's hard to find out what's going on (mb there are some dates anywhere but it's hard to find[?]). With BWCL it's different, you enter a page, you choose which week, you have given the date, who with who to whom he played etc.


Shouldn't Qikz have some kind of a master data base? Like a big Excel file for all that?


I set up my mySQL database very weirdly to start with so I don't have things like dates as it doesn't record them as games, just numbers. I'm working with Radley at the minute to improve on that since he works with Databases for a living so he's being a huge help to getting that fixed moving forward. Based on everything I've talked about with him I should be able to store everything as matches and games rather than just numbers, I'll need to change all my code but that's fine I don't mind it.

Radley <3

I'm sorry I've made it impossible for you to use STPL poegim, perhaps you can add it when I fix all the database and everything.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-19 15:40:15
October 19 2018 15:39 GMT
#189
Added PvP feature, you can now check player vs player ratio and games history. Just start entering a nickname in textbox and pick players.

http://rankgim.eu/pvp.php
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
October 19 2018 17:14 GMT
#190
Wow that is so cool. :D
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
October 19 2018 17:37 GMT
#191
On October 20 2018 00:39 Poegim wrote:
Added PvP feature, you can now check player vs player ratio and games history. Just start entering a nickname in textbox and pick players.

http://rankgim.eu/pvp.php

lanos = lancerx
Red.T45
Profile Joined June 2018
Germany28 Posts
October 19 2018 21:10 GMT
#192
Red.T45 race = Terran
No pain, no gain
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
March 26 2019 18:50 GMT
#193
What happened here guys? The site appears down.
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-26 21:07:35
March 26 2019 20:51 GMT
#194
Poegim said he stopped project for now due to losing interest but he may update scores until 2019 R1 in the nearest future and post table with rankings here on TL. So for now somebody can try to make new ranking using
GreyShades app

In a few days, I'm going to post here on TL a new thread, to get opinions and discuss about new website portal idea, which would be pretty big project, where foreign elo ranking would be only one of the features. But I may only guess it can take at least half of the year to see the results, after I get green light from community and can start working on it. This gonna also require cooperation from main foreign leagues organisators and some volunteers to help updating content.
TL+ Member
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
March 27 2019 17:52 GMT
#195
I might be interested in helping radley. That elo stuff definitely needs to be online.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-28 10:36:44
March 28 2019 10:34 GMT
#196
ill put it online soon, didnt touch this since october, and spend whole last 4 days on it. There is alot of games to update, im just in middle of january, or smth like it. Finally i rewrited engine so i can ez fix now past games, i can also add past tournaments (hi STPL?) and recalculate it in few minutes (except adding games to list takes a bit longer). Also writing some new features like History highest peaks rank (this is ready, already). I hope i ll finish updating game list in 1 week. Not sure adress will be same becouse of domain cost.

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Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
March 28 2019 21:23 GMT
#197
On March 28 2019 19:34 Poegim wrote:
ill put it online soon, didnt touch this since october, and spend whole last 4 days on it. There is alot of games to update, im just in middle of january, or smth like it. Finally i rewrited engine so i can ez fix now past games, i can also add past tournaments (hi STPL?) and recalculate it in few minutes (except adding games to list takes a bit longer). Also writing some new features like History highest peaks rank (this is ready, already). I hope i ll finish updating game list in 1 week. Not sure adress will be same becouse of domain cost.

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Nice!!! rankings are back :D
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
March 28 2019 21:34 GMT
#198
Cool! Glad to have you back
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10160 Posts
March 29 2019 01:57 GMT
#199
where's my boy jaeyun :c
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
March 29 2019 08:01 GMT
#200
I'll provide data from stpl for that. Just need to know whats best format of games data for that so I can write query most close to it. Gonna do this until tomorrow's evening.
TL+ Member
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
March 29 2019 11:13 GMT
#201
Single file,

winner / loser / date (might be unix timestamp also) / event name - or just
player score / score player 2 / date / event name

or just smth like it
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
March 29 2019 12:08 GMT
#202
Poegim nice to see you again (SuGo here...). Thanks for bringing it back.

Is it already up or still waiting to turn it on again? Current link (http://www.rankgim.eu/pvp.php) not working for me.
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-30 04:13:02
March 30 2019 03:58 GMT
#203
STPL games
List contains all games from STPL for which matches were casted up to yesterday. There were several duplicate user names. Those I can remember:
- Marine from pSi and Marine from vT (first is 'Marine', 2nd 'Marine_vT'
- Jaewon from Nas and Jaewon from WHITE (both having NaS / WHITE after nickname)
- Best from Red and BeSt progamer (first is Best, second BeStKOREA)
- Mind from dM (?) and Mind progamer (same as for Best, but only MindKOREA played)
- Beast from NaS and Korea (resolution same as previously, but only beast from NaS played)
TL+ Member
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
March 30 2019 05:31 GMT
#204
On March 30 2019 12:58 radley wrote:
STPL games
List contains all games from STPL for which matches were casted up to yesterday. There were several duplicate user names. Those I can remember:
- Marine from pSi and Marine from vT (first is 'Marine', 2nd 'Marine_vT'
- Jaewon from Nas and Jaewon from WHITE (both having NaS / WHITE after nickname)
- Best from Red and BeSt progamer (first is Best, second BeStKOREA)
- Mind from dM (?) and Mind progamer (same as for Best, but only MindKOREA played)
- Beast from NaS and Korea (resolution same as previously, but only beast from NaS played)


No, this dM-Mind from USA not the progamer hehe
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
March 30 2019 08:27 GMT
#205
On March 30 2019 12:58 radley wrote:
STPL games
List contains all games from STPL for which matches were casted up to yesterday. There were several duplicate user names. Those I can remember:
- Marine from pSi and Marine from vT (first is 'Marine', 2nd 'Marine_vT'
- Jaewon from Nas and Jaewon from WHITE (both having NaS / WHITE after nickname)
- Best from Red and BeSt progamer (first is Best, second BeStKOREA)
- Mind from dM (?) and Mind progamer (same as for Best, but only MindKOREA played)
- Beast from NaS and Korea (resolution same as previously, but only beast from NaS played)


3/24/2019 T Marine_vT 1:0 TT1 P Fortress SE STPL Season 1 Round 4 GroupStage

who adds these games? i never played vs marine_vt..
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-30 08:30:21
March 30 2019 08:29 GMT
#206
@ Mr K. aka ProtossGG Hey, no it is offline now, this incoming week i will try to put in online.
@ Radley, amazing job, thanks.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 30 2019 09:19 GMT
#207
@TT1 im pretty sure that was a walkover, qikz said in the cast today you didnt show up or something. The system isnt going to know the difference.

@poegim happy to see the rankings returning look forward to checking out the online version soon
aka DragOn[NaS]
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
March 30 2019 09:24 GMT
#208
Yea, i tried to schedule the match for an entire week (1st day the match got announced) but vT's team leader dodged me like Neo..
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-30 12:26:28
March 30 2019 12:22 GMT
#209
Yes, it was walkover game, and there were more than couple of such games during season 1. Since I was creating games parser, working on bare TL topics data, which had some walkovers not pointed out, and it was between round 2 and 3, there were difficulties to find out all games which were walkovers in first 2 rounds (that is almost 350 games), because it would require to search for it in youtube recordings, which were back in the day cut into single games. I decided then to treat every walkover as normal game, even though db schema has prepared column to point it out. But even If walkovers were properly set, I would still treat them in STPL ELO ranking as normal game. The reason for that is, if we didn't count them, we would hurt people who were on scheduled time ready to play, because they would not gain points for that too. And most of the walkover cases are that its fault of person who didn't show up, not the other side dodging rescheduling game. We cannot also prove, that your opponent could play on different time or not, so we need to stick to given rules, which are in this example setting deadline for each match and giving team opportunity to replace player with other, playing same race (even he can play offrace if you dont have any spare player with same race) during week or even during deadline. And thats without any permission from another team - you just have right to do it, which I think is pretty uncommon and liberated in comparison to other team tours in the past.
So yeah, sorry for your situation TT1, but your team could replace you with anybody just as you were seeing troubles with rescheduling game, and than he would be on games list as winner/losser depends on how game did go. That would also benefit everybody watching STPL, since there would be more game to be casted and seeing walkovers is always bad feeling.

dM-White - yeah, the point is there are two players with nickname Mind - one from your team and another one progamer (he played at least once in WHITE vs SouL in Round 1, if I remember correctly).
TL+ Member
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
March 30 2019 14:36 GMT
#210
ye counting walkovers as win/loss is good, no other way to go about it. it's only an issue when (extremely rarely) the wrong player is given the wo win.
Moderator
GreyShades
Profile Joined September 2017
Denmark40 Posts
March 31 2019 23:49 GMT
#211
I know I'm a little late to the party, but just in case any of it should be useful in any way to you, I would like to make you aware of the following thread.

The code for that project is in C# and all accessible via github.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
April 02 2019 18:24 GMT
#212
@ GrayShades, thanks i am looking on your project also.


2019 Q1 UPDATE


Ok, i updated rankgim, there might be some mistakes etc, i add like 1750 games since october and 750 games of STPL since march 2018. There is few issues of sharing same name by players with "super common" nicknames, like marine, raynor, last, y.y, dark, spy but its less than 0,1 players and less than 1% games so doesnt impact ranking much, just as small fluctuation. Also few nicknames is existing in few different version so i am not sure are they different players or no etc. Examples: BlaCkSonS, BLaCkSoN, Kaido, KaidoKaze, Mannerz, MannerzMan etc
Waiting for your reports. HF

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Brood_War_20th_Anniversary_LAN
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Have At You 24
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Have At You 26
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LETS GO
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Have At You 28
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EGM Fight Night 2
Parabola tournament 1
BSL6 CHOBOLEAGUE RO16
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BSL6 CHOBOLEAGUE RO8
BWCL 47 W7
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BSL6 RO16 GROUP B PROLEAGUE
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BWCL 47 W8
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STPL Season 1 Round 3 PlayOffs
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STPL Season 1 Round 1 PlayOffs
STPL Season 1 Round 1 GroupStage


New temporary (not sure about future of this) adres is : www.rankgim2.webd.pro

Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 19:35:10
April 02 2019 19:16 GMT
#213
I love ELO ratings, so here I used the gdoc from radley to plot elo graphs over time.

top 10: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSQxtVuVi78q-QIdIPGbVx5_-Q9W1--qy9zbveQB02YNKY0TKohzvMkyg0CCBI6KY93vS8Ha_23-52s/pubchart?oid=558915804&format=interactive

top 50: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSQxtVuVi78q-QIdIPGbVx5_-Q9W1--qy9zbveQB02YNKY0TKohzvMkyg0CCBI6KY93vS8Ha_23-52s/pubchart?oid=1008483052&format=interactive

Hover over the line to see the player name.

Yeti man. Most underrated player.

dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
April 02 2019 20:42 GMT
#214
101 damn going for top 100 xD
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 22:30:11
April 02 2019 21:44 GMT
#215
The ranking isn't accurate tho. Don't get me wrong, i think having an elo/ranking page is super fun and i appreciate all the work going into keeping it updated.. but it would be nice if the ranking page had accurate data.

It says i have 2 wins vs g0rynich but it's actually 1 win and 1 loss. Like i mentioned i never played vs Marine and you added a bunch of my games where i offraced for fun (vs Labuela // vs Dewalt). Is the goal here to have an accurate ranking or are we just gonna add every single match without double checking anything?

I'm checking the other pages and there's a ton of mistakes in those too..

Also, adding a ranking page for CPL would be really cool, imo.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
GreyShades
Profile Joined September 2017
Denmark40 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 23:26:22
April 02 2019 22:22 GMT
#216
On April 03 2019 06:44 TT1 wrote:
The ranking isn't accurate tho. Don't get me wrong, i think having an elo/ranking page is super fun and i appreciate all the work going into keeping it updated.. but it would be nice if the ranking page had accurate data.


I think those are valid points. On the other hand, the current approach is also about seeing what can practically be done with the current data.

However, in terms of a more long term and lasting solution for elo ratings there are a number of things to consider:

1) The technical solution where, say a tournament organizer, can hand in or upload a spread sheet in a particular format and it is automatically added to the grand data base.

2) A different issues is creating a policy on which games to include. For obvious reasons, walkovers and games that players do not take serious should preferably not enter the data base. But the games should also preferably come from matches where each player plays on a set of pretty balanced maps. For example, games from BSL would probably fit that criterion better than games from STPL.

Looking to the chess world, only particular tournaments are recognized as official rating tournaments and you know before hand when you are playing rated games so you don't fool around.

These are some thoughts on the long term organization of an elo ranking system, but I recognize that its about making a compromise between what is optimal and what is practically possible.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 22:52:57
April 02 2019 22:48 GMT
#217
Hmm I checked my own stats and I didnt notice any errors. The gorynich twice thing is obvously bad, but the system isnt going to filter by how much you were trying to win. If you dont want it reflected in your rank, dont offrace in tournaments lol. Plenty of people are legitimately racepicking or switching race and its going to be impossible to differentiate whos being serious and who isnt. Also some of the results pages for these leagues dont even tell what race was played..

Good to see the ranking back though
aka DragOn[NaS]
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 23:52:46
April 02 2019 23:52 GMT
#218
Hi, my stats aren't showing up on the leaderboard http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1503. Please advise
|Terran|
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
April 03 2019 04:59 GMT
#219
+ PrI (50) is Chilean Protoss
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 07:10:45
April 03 2019 07:05 GMT
#220
The statement about not including tournament (!) games, because someone was playing for fun with offrace is just the most stupid thing I have ever seen regarding elo rank algorithm.
The practical approach is to give particular tournaments and their stages factor of priority, so that match in main league is more important than match in one day long tournament, and match in finals is more important than match in groupstage. However, taking into account, that everybody should play their best in any tournament, others may say it would affect scores in a bad way.
TL+ Member
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 07:52:18
April 03 2019 07:42 GMT
#221
On April 03 2019 16:05 radley wrote:
The statement about not including tournament (!) games, because someone was playing for fun with offrace is just the most stupid thing I have ever seen regarding elo rank algorithm.
The practical approach is to give particular tournaments and their stages factor of priority, so that match in main league is more important than match in one day long tournament, and match in finals is more important than match in groupstage. However, taking into account, that everybody should play their best in any tournament, others may say it would affect scores in a bad way.


These were not "official tourney games", they were fun event matches that i only agreed to play in for that exact reason.. to have fun (NA vs SA and BSL KOTH events during the BSL ladder stage). I obviously wouldn't ever offrace in an official tourney like BSL, Zotac etc. And like i've said previously, the STPL situation (W.Os counting) is just laughable. Especially when i did everything in my power to play my match (contacted their team coach 1 week before the match and he just kept putting it off until the last day).

Anyways, guess the mistake was on my end, i'll have to think about joining in stuff that i really don't want to more carefully in the future. Carry on !
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 07:47:19
April 03 2019 07:46 GMT
#222
@ Radley, Yup.

This is still amateur community so no one should expect too much. There is no way to do it perfect as long as it is not a professional thing. People smurfs, plays on different accounts, changing names, gets wo, et cetera.


@ Demurity, You need to have 10 games to be visible, but as i see now You = Chego, so i will merge this accs, mb there is some games on Demurity nickname (probably yes becouse Demurity nickname exist in base).


ill make some fixes in gamelist in few days if ppl will report (like TT1 vs notforu).
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 00:32:28
April 04 2019 00:02 GMT
#223
some info on players:

gypsy = canadian T
hitemup = loganterriah = canadian T
aegyo = cute = canadian Z
yop = peruvian Z
mutita = leo = peruvian Z
splax = swedish P
roegi = american T
unco = american P
bard = polish

demure = demurity = chego = Demure[NaS] = american T
Armada = american P
aka DragOn[NaS]
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
April 04 2019 06:39 GMT
#224
Bard afaik has doubled nickname with some American player having one of akas Bard[Pain]. The Polish one is from KDV and is playing from end of last year, so probably first 4 games are of Bard[Pain].
TL+ Member
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
April 04 2019 07:07 GMT
#225
bard[pain] is aka battousai[nas] http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1306

I dont think any of polish bards games are from battousai, i dont remember him playing in HAY ever. could be wrong i guess
aka DragOn[NaS]
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
April 04 2019 08:28 GMT
#226
Bylat, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=709
Me Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=635
xevb3,Russia, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1450
Clickmer, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1050
Tresha, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=104
Funny, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=145
pollution = TTF, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1229
Jeronnimo, Russian, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=970
Jedione, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=821
Malki, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=440
patyrykin.net
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
April 04 2019 13:44 GMT
#227
Problem with Hay is that a lot of matches were v/o but it's still counted in the ranking.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 14:10:52
April 04 2019 14:07 GMT
#228
Thanks guys for reports. @Koget, no one is forcing ppl to check-in and leave, wo is a loss and loss is a loss, simple as that. Someone can just intentional wo knowing he will play in next round vs some super gosu and lose anyway. No one is able to understand or predict intentions, was it lose becouse of technical issues, was it a dinner time, or smth else, etc.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
April 04 2019 17:22 GMT
#229
Here's what I think about my ranking www.teamliquid.net
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
April 05 2019 06:50 GMT
#230
Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups
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TL+ Member
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
April 05 2019 06:54 GMT
#231
On April 05 2019 15:50 radley wrote:
Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups

LOL WOW
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
April 05 2019 07:10 GMT
#232
On April 05 2019 15:50 radley wrote:
Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups


xD Thanks bro!
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 13:47:16
April 05 2019 13:44 GMT
#233
On April 05 2019 15:50 radley wrote:
Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups


I am not including events with skill cap, like 1400MMR max only tourneys, B rank only et cetera.

On April 04 2019 17:28 Rus_Brain wrote:
Bylat, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=709
Me Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=635
xevb3,Russia, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1450
Clickmer, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1050
Tresha, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=104
Funny, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=145
pollution = TTF, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1229
Jeronnimo, Russian, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=970
Jedione, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=821
Malki, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=440



Done except pollution, becouse both those nicknames play in Road to Moscow, so it cant be same person.

On April 04 2019 09:02 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
some info on players:

gypsy = canadian T
hitemup = loganterriah = canadian T
aegyo = cute = canadian Z
yop = peruvian Z
mutita = leo = peruvian Z
splax = swedish P
roegi = american T
unco = american P
bard = polish

demure = demurity = chego = Demure[NaS] = american T
Armada = american P


Done, except:
- Leo [too many leo's ]
- Armada, will do it in next round.

On April 03 2019 13:59 dM-White wrote:
+ PrI (50) is Chilean Protoss


Done.

also :
- TT1 vs Notforu fixed
- BWCL S47 W4 DIV A fixed (sorry mr JerryK47 )
- Bard's has been sapareted.


Also site is again also on native domain http://rankgim.eu
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SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 15:22:43
April 05 2019 15:20 GMT
#234
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups

I am not including events with skill cap, like 1400MMR max only tourneys, B rank only et cetera.


Poegim, in this same regard then should the chobo league games be counted so heavily? I see quite a few folks who are very high due to just chobo league participation. Just a question.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 16:23:14
April 05 2019 16:03 GMT
#235
Chobo league didn't hadsolid skill cap. From my point of view bsl pro/gosu/chobo was more like divisions in clan leagues.
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SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
April 05 2019 16:35 GMT
#236
On April 06 2019 01:03 Poegim wrote:
Chobo league didn't hadsolid skill cap. From my point of view bsl pro/gosu/chobo was more like divisions in clan leagues.


Well, in the first several rounds, there are like 1800 MMR players. So lot of folks who are 2100 who ended up winning, just farm the points in early rounds.

But yes, I get your logic.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
April 05 2019 19:50 GMT
#237
if the tournament is added as another column for each data entry, you could later make elo including only a certain subset of tournaments.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 08:26:37
June 29 2019 17:51 GMT
#238
Hi, can some one show me place where i can find Q2 STPL scores? Looking for B plan if mr Radley will be not able to provide it.

@Navane Yes its possible, but small sample like this doesnt make any sense for me.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 19:14:18
July 03 2019 19:13 GMT
#239
Updated for Q2 2019

rankgim.eu

BW Jeez weekly 14
BWCL PLAYOFFS Q219
EGM Fight Night #4
BW Jeez weekly 15
Let's Go 2
BW Jeez weekly 16
BW Jeez weekly 17
Let's Go 3
BW Jeez weekly 18
KOK - 300 rok8-4
BW Jeez weekly 19
KOK - 300 FINALS
DEFILER MEGA TOUR
Let's Go 4
BW Jeez weekly 20
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU1
EGM Fight Night #5
BW Jeez weekly 21
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU2
Let's Go 5
BW Jeez weekly 22
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali EU1
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali PL1
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU3
BW Jeez weekly 23
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali PL2
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali FSU1
Let's Go 6 The Final Eight
BW Jeez weekly 24
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali LatAm1
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali EU2
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali FSU2
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali NA1
BW Jeez weekly 25
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali LatAm2
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali NA2
Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU4
BW Jeez weekly 26
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
July 03 2019 20:35 GMT
#240
can u make it so that you can search for players by name or make lists with races. or maybe a whole list where every match that you add to the data base is listed.

the usability of the site is pretty bad, other than that, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

nice effort, good job
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 21:02:03
July 03 2019 20:58 GMT
#241
Hey nice update
I dont think STPL grand playoffs/finals have been added to the R&S thread, but BWCL48 all results are here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPT8QOrXqISAq62OXrN5-S_-bRnYGB_cSi2PPBs1Z4A/edit#gid=1774490385

BWCL47 stuff is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VwoO-KixwNMdUxR9-zwKNjbCVDXZV0m7CsLVMl5Ljx8/edit#gid=1774490385 Might be a few scores missing...I dont see my match against dienmax for example
aka DragOn[NaS]
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
July 03 2019 20:59 GMT
#242
I think that Cadenzie is at least in the top 30's skill wise...
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
July 03 2019 23:06 GMT
#243
nimrod = laAbuela
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-04 00:02:03
July 03 2019 23:59 GMT
#244
Thanks for the updates Poegim. Much appreciated

Please add remaining STPL / BWCL 47 / BWCL 48 when you are able to
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines560 Posts
July 04 2019 01:54 GMT
#245
shouldn't foreigner include chinese too?
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
July 04 2019 03:17 GMT
#246
Chinese have their own scene. Let me know when a single chinese player participates in BSL/STPL/BWCL/Jeez/Letsgo/Fightnight lol
aka DragOn[NaS]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
July 04 2019 13:52 GMT
#247

seriosity Profile PM Joined July 2009 United States70 Posts
14 hours ago #243
nimrod = laAbuela


Fixed.

FyRe_DragOn Profile Blog PM Joined November 2006 Canada1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 23:02:03 16 hours ago #241
Hey nice update
I dont think STPL grand playoffs/finals have been added to the R&S thread, but BWCL48 all results are here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPT8QOrXqISAq62OXrN5-S_-bRnYGB_cSi2PPBs1Z4A/edit#gid=1774490385

BWCL47 stuff is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VwoO-KixwNMdUxR9-zwKNjbCVDXZV0m7CsLVMl5Ljx8/edit#gid=1774490385 Might be a few scores missing...I dont see my match against dienmax for example


BWCL S47 was already done, added BWCL S48 games (~250). Thanks.


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seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
July 04 2019 14:52 GMT
#248
Musae or vt.mu$$$$ae is Crossy
Mutita is LeO
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-04 15:38:44
July 04 2019 15:06 GMT
#249
[Oops]_terran + loganterriah + Dissection = ash.HitEmUp (Canadian)
HitEmUp
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-06 10:34:10
July 06 2019 10:30 GMT
#250
FakeFin (id=1706) is a german Zerg
Also keep up the great work! It's just awesome to have something like this!

Also player search and options for showing inactive players and players below 700 would be great for the future
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
July 25 2019 17:45 GMT
#251
is it possible to add PvP results links ? this way you can share it with friends while in a chat etc.

[image loading]

LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
July 26 2019 01:24 GMT
#252
Depleted = Viciado, zerg from Argentina, also he is not in the ranking even though he has 762 points
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 05:36:39
July 26 2019 05:30 GMT
#253
http://rankgim.eu/player_stats.php?playerID=1717 = cRuZaGo
http://rankgim.eu/player_stats.php?playerID=1467 = IvAniOx

GoKu = Peruvian Terran
Kingtoss = peruvian protoss
Darking = peruvian zerg
Leveleando = peruvian zerg
Raynor = bolivian terran
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 06:30:38
July 26 2019 06:28 GMT
#254
@ All before, Thank You, i will change it (next update).

@eonzerg Yeah, i was thinking about it, mb will try do it in next update, mb soon.

@Sabbbath Thanks. Player not visible becouse not enough games (10 or more to be listed).

@Xenosky Thanks, ill merge and change flags/races next update.

Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 14:27:03
July 26 2019 14:26 GMT
#255
How does one apply for the list, and how does the rank system work?
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland563 Posts
July 26 2019 14:37 GMT
#256
One needs to play in tournaments or leagues.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 09:18:12
August 07 2019 09:16 GMT
#257
@eonzerg

links in player vs player and country vs country are now shareable
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mSj_Artanis
Profile Joined May 2015
60 Posts
August 07 2019 09:29 GMT
#258
http://rankgim.eu/player_stats.php?playerID=336
its terran from Russia
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
August 19 2019 18:00 GMT
#259
bwcl is almost over. there are two other tournaments aside from the weekly jeez

(Wiki)NA Summer Starleague

(Wiki)1v1 Eternal Contest Tourney

I assume you know about this link: (Wiki)Leagues/Recent Tournaments
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
August 19 2019 18:27 GMT
#260
not to mention this one !!
red clan cup #22
Moderator
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
August 19 2019 19:26 GMT
#261
On August 20 2019 03:27 Liquid`Drone wrote:
not to mention this one !!
red clan cup #22

Of course the guy who won it posted it :D:D:D:D:D
TL+ Member
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
August 19 2019 19:43 GMT
#262
On August 07 2019 18:16 Poegim wrote:
@eonzerg

links in player vs player and country vs country are now shareable

thanks.it works nice
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-08 17:59:51
December 08 2019 17:59 GMT
#263
For some reason, I am not in the ranking anymore. When the next big update?:-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-08 18:54:35
December 08 2019 18:38 GMT
#264
Beouse your last registered game was 8 june 2019, and ranking is not displaying ppl with last game more than 6 months ago. In next 30 days whole ranking will be empty. I am not sure about update becouse it takes too much time to add so many games, i create very quick user interface but still, its enormous number of games to add from last 6 months, invested like 200 hours for create page and 200hours for these all updates in last 2,5 year, and its no more fun for me spending so much time on it for free. Update for every month is like ~~1h-3h or +++++h of work .
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-08 18:48:16
December 08 2019 18:41 GMT
#265
Mb make an open form that users can fill in and you just approve?

Validation criteria is a link to the official bracket/event page, then whole community can work on it.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-08 19:13:11
December 08 2019 18:51 GMT
#266
Creating an propper open form for everyone, to not duplicate games etc etc etc will take another 50 - 100 ++++ hours ; D. But yeah, i ll think about solutions, however dont promising anything.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
December 08 2019 20:05 GMT
#267
If the tool is going to die, make it open for community at least.. there will be volunteers to run it!
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
December 08 2019 20:19 GMT
#268
In what form would you need the matches? I would love to help if i can
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
December 09 2019 06:20 GMT
#269
I guess you can vet open submissions a few ways, 2 come to mind.

1. Have volunteer mod team approve submissions.
2. Allow open submissions with registration, allow flagging invalid submissions

Could have a mix of both I guess. Just thinking out loud.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
December 09 2019 11:39 GMT
#270
maybe reaching out to http://aligulac.com to see if they could create a separate brood war ranking is something to consider? as far as uploading results is concerned, anyone is allowed to create events and add matches which then get approved by mods
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
December 09 2019 13:49 GMT
#271
@FakeFin thanks, i ll back to your offer if there will be possibility to use it. There is no simple way to import data from file if ppl dont have access to my players database, so making any prepared file doesnt make a big sense, it could make adding games for me 2x more faster maybe but will get alot of time from other ppl.
@dark.matter yeah, will think about it /yes/no/maybe/who knows.

Workin in commerce, so dont expect too much in december, but maybe next Q / jan-mar / ill try execute some ideas.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
May 16 2020 19:51 GMT
#272
Ranking is not updated jet, but u can try bets (sponsored by coronavirus). HF.
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
May 16 2020 20:42 GMT
#273
huh? I am writing a book about starcraft, slowly but shurly, please be patient, everyday I give to protoss, terran, zerg; one day, hopefully, it will be, if God wants maybe
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 08:57:59
September 23 2020 08:44 GMT
#274
Hey, searching for trusted person who would help with administrate bets section (tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings). Probably ranking will be updated for Q3 and after that i hope next updates will be in monthly frequency ~kespa like.

link to page http://rankgim.eu
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 09:23:21
September 23 2020 09:21 GMT
#275
On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote:
Hey, searching for trusted person who would help with administrate bets section (tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings). Probably ranking will be updated for Q3 and after that i hope next updates will be in monthly frequency ~kespa like.

link to page http://rankgim.eu


Can you please remove my walkovers from Polish RCG qualifiers (matches 30-33)? ))
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation369 Posts
September 23 2020 10:51 GMT
#276
wow, pretty cool project! And im on top of the site
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
September 23 2020 14:35 GMT
#277
On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote:
tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings

Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments?
psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland195 Posts
September 23 2020 16:38 GMT
#278
Great initiative, sounds alot like Gosubet from back in the day
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
September 23 2020 17:04 GMT
#279
cool to see this is still around
aka DragOn[NaS]
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 21:32:11
September 23 2020 21:31 GMT
#280
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
September 23 2020 21:47 GMT
#281
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 23 2020 22:44 GMT
#282
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.


Lmao
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 23:03:25
September 23 2020 23:00 GMT
#283
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.


PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 23:11:45
September 23 2020 23:11 GMT
#284
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote:
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.


PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over


You sound dumb now (well, you did sound dumb in your first post, but even dumber now). Your question was answered. I will leave it at that. See ya.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States859 Posts
September 23 2020 23:14 GMT
#285
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote:
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.


PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over


oh i remember this! when tt1 unexpectedly got eliminated in the NASL qualifier.
Life is just life
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
September 23 2020 23:24 GMT
#286
nothing like a ranking system to bring foreigner players closer together.

on a side note LMAOOOO i'm ranked higher than julia get BTFO van gogh
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 23:49:17
September 23 2020 23:28 GMT
#287
On September 24 2020 08:14 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote:
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote:
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.


PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over


oh i remember this! when tt1 unexpectedly got eliminated in the NASL qualifier.


On September 24 2020 08:11 SuGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote:
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote:
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote:
i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this

[image loading]

can i pls know when this happened? thx


It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost.


PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over


You sound dumb now (well, you did sound dumb in your first post, but even dumber now). Your question was answered. I will leave it at that. See ya.


Yea i remember the qualifiers, it took me 3 tries to get in. I remember the losses from the first 2 vs castle/aegyo/models but i genuinely don't remember the game vs susgo.. i must have suppressed the memory lmao. That's why i'm curious about the game :D

surely a dt or goon allin on a rampless map, kaka
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 23 2020 23:48 GMT
#288
Bonyth, Dewalt and Eonzerg have incredible winrates - 78, 74 and 74.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
September 24 2020 03:40 GMT
#289
ivaniox and pri from chile are the same person
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
September 24 2020 10:09 GMT
#290
https://challonge.com/pl/NAASLQ2

U lost here in loser bracket to mr Sugo. Rest answers when ill come back home
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 24 2020 10:20 GMT
#291
I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players?
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 10:38:29
September 24 2020 10:31 GMT
#292
On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players?


I agree those should be removed. The thing with keeping them is they play a lot in "foreign" tournaments, hence it kinda makes sense to keep them.

Overall a non-korean version of the ranking with re calculated ELO would be interesting to see, as some of the top koreans have a relatively low ELO due to few games (e.g I have lost vs YSC who had like 1000 points while he could have easily topped the ranking in reality)

So to sum it up - have an only foreigner ranking (so you can actually say who plays best vs foreigners) and have a korean only ranking that maps only korea vs korea matches..

Primary argument for that is two different player / event pools, it is really uncomparable.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 10:58:00
September 24 2020 10:47 GMT
#293
On September 23 2020 18:21 kogeT wrote:
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On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote:
Hey, searching for trusted person who would help with administrate bets section (tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings). Probably ranking will be updated for Q3 and after that i hope next updates will be in monthly frequency ~kespa like.

link to page http://rankgim.eu


Can you please remove my walkovers from Polish RCG qualifiers (matches 30-33)? ))



Im sorry Mr KogeT but wo is just loss according to the rules that have been established and according to the organizers of a given tournament. Due to no possiblity to check whether each loss was forfeit or not all games reported by organizers as loss are just loss is ranking. Otherwise, some players would be treated unfairly due to just dont know their wo games are reported as lost. Also there is possibility players can gave intentional wo in some circumstances to get better place in next round group/bracket et cetera.

On September 23 2020 19:51 iFU.spx wrote:
wow, pretty cool project! And im on top of the site


Thanks!

On September 23 2020 23:35 FakeFin wrote:
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On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote:
tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings

Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments?


Nope, there is dedicated form to fill, simple and pretty fast / easy.

On September 24 2020 01:38 psyCrowe wrote:
Great initiative, sounds alot like Gosubet from back in the day

On September 24 2020 02:04 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
cool to see this is still around


Thanks!

On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players?


It was created as foreigner only but instantly i have been asked many times where is Scan , also if they play in international tournaments and organizers allow them to play i dont see any reason to not include them. There is also few other things like, you cant realy know all players and be sure this unknown xyz nickname is korean or not.

On September 24 2020 19:31 kogeT wrote:
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On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players?


I agree those should be removed. The thing with keeping them is they play a lot in "foreign" tournaments, hence it kinda makes sense to keep them.

Overall a non-korean version of the ranking with re calculated ELO would be interesting to see, as some of the top koreans have a relatively low ELO due to few games (e.g I have lost vs YSC who had like 1000 points while he could have easily topped the ranking in reality)

So to sum it up - have an only foreigner ranking (so you can actually say who plays best vs foreigners) and have a korean only ranking that maps only korea vs korea matches..

Primary argument for that is two different player / event pools, it is really uncomparable.



Yeah and many low rank players lost to you when you had low ELO. Shouldt Chaelyn be allowed? Or maybe just PROs? But then Scan and ajuk wasnt pro anyway i belive. Should be Cross allowed? Is he realy Canadian or just Korean? Is Jayun more Korean or more American, who would judge? There is many problems with that. Its more on tounament organizers hands from my perspective.

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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 11:16:48
September 24 2020 11:01 GMT
#294
Yes, I have to say it was surprising to me that 3 years after remastered came out, foreign tournaments still have koreans partake in them to win most of the prize money.

In my eyes it was always clear that regional competition is the preferred format. And for a ranking like this, it would make most sense for korean players to not be included. (Though that makes it weird if tournament organisers do actually include them, like you said.)
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FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
September 24 2020 11:40 GMT
#295
On September 24 2020 19:47 Poegim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 23:35 FakeFin wrote:
On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote:
tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings

Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments?


Nope, there is dedicated form to fill, simple and pretty fast / easy.


Ah great i can help with the korean ranking then(and also a bit with foreign if more help is needed), i'm liquipedia editor so i have a pretty decent overview of the korean competitions
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 12:03:03
September 24 2020 12:02 GMT
#296
Poegim, I just want to make it a better tool, really don't care my result personally.

I think the goal of the tool is to create the most realistic ranking of foreign players, based on their actual results/skill. If you allow players to report walkover so they can be removed they only thing you get is better database. The example of "intentional" vo to get a better place still doesnt matter, as what you try to measure is ELO performance based on matches played against each other. Otherwise you consciously corrupt your data without getting any additional benefit from this.

Same for your betting part - the odds should be based on real matches, not walkovers.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
September 24 2020 12:13 GMT
#297
On September 24 2020 20:01 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Yes, I have to say it was surprising to me that 3 years after remastered came out, foreign tournaments still have koreans partake in them to win most of the prize money.

In my eyes it was always clear that regional competition is the preferred format. And for a ranking like this, it would make most sense for korean players to not be included. (Though that makes it weird if tournament organisers do actually include them, like you said.)

I whole heartedly agree with this, thanks for sharing your words of brilliance Mr.Ret.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 12:24:05
September 24 2020 12:13 GMT
#298
Koget , yes / maybe / i can change my private opinion, however you would have to allocate asymmetrically a lot of resources (time) and / or it would still be impossible in 100% to implement in the conditions of amateur scene. It was big challenge from the perspective of time spent already, dont see anyway to do that this way. Database have like over 15k games already, Facing the existing reality and conditions it was most elegance and simple way to solve the problem of walkovers.

Change my mind / to fix some games and other not, and BIG one, how to verify when someone will say he lost by wo et cetera. Just belive a word?
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
September 24 2020 12:26 GMT
#299
You can ask them to provide any kind of evidence. And by principle yes, I think people would not lie.. and even if you do it assymetrically, it still doesnt hurt your database, as removing corupted results like this will always improve the quality (even if some players are still left with walkovers)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
September 24 2020 14:08 GMT
#300
This is a wonderful E-Peen measurement tool, rage will continue to ensue.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
September 24 2020 16:17 GMT
#301
I too would like to see a foreigner ranking with no koreans. I just subtract the koreans from the ranking myself mentally anyway. And yeah a few tournaments like HAY and STPL allow koreans, others like BSL and BWCL do not. Afaik the rules are that in order to play, you must be living in a country other than korea..so people like jaeyun and cross are considered american/canadian, while chaelyn is considered korean. I mean, these players are already clearly labelled with the correct flags, so it seems you already know where to draw the line lol. Just remove all the ones with korean flags..I dont see that theres any confusion really.
aka DragOn[NaS]
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 24 2020 17:58 GMT
#302
On September 25 2020 01:17 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
I too would like to see a foreigner ranking with no koreans. I just subtract the koreans from the ranking myself mentally anyway. And yeah a few tournaments like HAY and STPL allow koreans, others like BSL and BWCL do not. Afaik the rules are that in order to play, you must be living in a country other than korea..so people like jaeyun and cross are considered american/canadian, while chaelyn is considered korean. I mean, these players are already clearly labelled with the correct flags, so it seems you already know where to draw the line lol. Just remove all the ones with korean flags..I dont see that theres any confusion really.


It's just a question if you show them in the final ranking or not. You need them as reference, else the scores are skewed and biased. Same reason that walk overs shouldn't count toward your ranking, it adds needless variance statistically speaking as those are not related to your skill.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 19:06:26
September 24 2020 18:16 GMT
#303
why would they substract actual games when they don't even substract w.os?

the ranking system is a nice idea but the execution is suspect
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
September 25 2020 08:54 GMT
#304
I also think we already havew sponbang for korean matches which is an amazing source of knowledge about current skill of pros, no need to duplicate that with lower quality.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
September 25 2020 10:12 GMT
#305
No ranking for korean scene = no bets
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
September 25 2020 11:38 GMT
#306
Why don't you just take the data from sponnbang database.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-25 11:49:23
September 25 2020 11:49 GMT
#307
Show me where they share whole db
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 25 2020 12:35 GMT
#308
My favourite thing about showing the global Koreans (ones that play in HAY and STPL) is it shows just how amazingly good Bonyth and Dewalt actually are. Dewalt even beat Shine for instance in a tournament macro game, albeit a Bo1 that's a huge achievement.

Perhaps if you had a seperate Global Ranking where it had both the Koreans and Foreigners who play in foreign tournaments and just a foreign one where you remove all koreans? That way you get the best of both worlds.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
September 25 2020 12:55 GMT
#309
Yeah, this is possible to reach in simple way, so thats what im thinking about in distant future. If enough time will be available it can be done some day.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
456 Posts
September 27 2020 10:47 GMT
#310
On September 25 2020 21:35 Qikz wrote:
My favourite thing about showing the global Koreans (ones that play in HAY and STPL) is it shows just how amazingly good Bonyth and Dewalt actually are. Dewalt even beat Shine for instance in a tournament macro game, albeit a Bo1 that's a huge achievement.

Perhaps if you had a seperate Global Ranking where it had both the Koreans and Foreigners who play in foreign tournaments and just a foreign one where you remove all koreans? That way you get the best of both worlds.


It's the worst of both worlds. Games between koreans and foreigners are always laggy and will never bring out the best play out of anybody. Perhaps dewalt and bonyth are able to do well in laggy games in PvZ sometimes, but it's meaningless entirely.
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