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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1921 Posts
July 06 2017 06:52 GMT
#161
"We're making SCR for the fans."

The irony.
Calendaraka Foxhan
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
July 06 2017 07:33 GMT
#162
This is extremely frustrating. If remastered never existed does anyone think the community could or would have eventually moved over to a non-copyrighted/public domain game like OpenBW? Perhaps even beyond that, a game that functions exactly as BW does but without encroaching on Blizzards IP?

I assume games like go and chess don't have to deal with shit like this because they aren't controlled by a corporation whose decisions are ultimately affected by a conflict of interest between supporting the game and increasing revenue.
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1154 Posts
July 06 2017 07:52 GMT
#163
On July 06 2017 16:33 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:
This is extremely frustrating. If remastered never existed does anyone think the community could or would have eventually moved over to a non-copyrighted/public domain game like OpenBW? Perhaps even beyond that, a game that functions exactly as BW does but without encroaching on Blizzards IP?

I assume games like go and chess don't have to deal with shit like this because they aren't controlled by a corporation whose decisions are ultimately affected by a conflict of interest between supporting the game and increasing revenue.


Plenty of top chess players have fallen out with FIDE as it happens.
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
July 06 2017 08:15 GMT
#164
I hate Activision Blizzard
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
July 06 2017 08:46 GMT
#165
Blizzard you dumb POS (pirates of space)
The heart's eternal vow
NickHotS
Profile Joined May 2014
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 08:59:16
July 06 2017 08:58 GMT
#166
So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here.

Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves.

Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature.

2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
July 06 2017 09:06 GMT
#167
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote:
So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here.

Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves.

Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature.


Yeah, I agree with this guy. This is fine.

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7219 Posts
July 06 2017 09:26 GMT
#168
if bliizzard is not coming with a much better event than the ATB i will start to believe they are just trying to kill BW for real.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
July 06 2017 09:40 GMT
#169
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote:
So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here.

Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves.

Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature.


How would have a tourney that many were looking forward to disallow them to manage SC:R hype levels? I don't think "hype" a zero-sum game where cancelling a tourney makes the next one all that more "hype". At least for me, definitely not. So in that regard the only feeling I will have when ASL4 starts is anger.

But let's put that aside and believe that Blizzard is thinking on doing something. If that is the case, I still wouldn't be happy about the way they handled it. Instead of having announced something and communicated with Afreeca, they just went mute, frustrated the organizer company, the viewers, and fans, and then let the whole tourney get cancelled while still not announcing anything in return. It's hard for me to imagine they can organise a better tourney than ATB2 would've been but even if they did, this is not the way to go.

The main point is, I think no one here was jumping to conclusions or worry-mongering. We already arrived at the conclusion: ATB2 is cancelled. No one is better off for it.
The heart's eternal vow
ihcob
Profile Joined May 2017
23 Posts
July 06 2017 09:59 GMT
#170
On July 06 2017 16:33 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:
This is extremely frustrating. If remastered never existed does anyone think the community could or would have eventually moved over to a non-copyrighted/public domain game like OpenBW? Perhaps even beyond that, a game that functions exactly as BW does but without encroaching on Blizzards IP?

I assume games like go and chess don't have to deal with shit like this because they aren't controlled by a corporation whose decisions are ultimately affected by a conflict of interest between supporting the game and increasing revenue.


Yeah Blizzard still doesn't hold a candle to FIDE - the chess leadership is on a US sanctions list due to ties with the Assad regime, and the man in charge (Ilyumzhinov) believes chess was brought down to earth by aliens and has stated repeatedly that he himself was once abducted by aliens. His autobiography has a chapter titled 'It only takes two weeks to have a man killed.' Top 10 chess players repeatedly threaten to withdraw from top level tournaments due to the organization's management.

But yeah never forget that Blizzard works for their shareholders not their players.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 10:38:51
July 06 2017 10:38 GMT
#171
Blizzard has generally been supportive of ASL right? What reasons would they have to change this?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
July 06 2017 10:44 GMT
#172
Thank you ACTIVISION blizzard! I am soooooooooooooooooooooooo hyped for the remaster now!
psd
Profile Joined February 2016
France94 Posts
July 06 2017 11:43 GMT
#173
Blizzard never fail to disappoints those days.

Do they have to pollute everything with their greed ?
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
July 06 2017 11:57 GMT
#174
Anyone who thinks this is surprising, has not been paying attention. This isn't even exclusive to Brood War. It's the entire Starcraft franchise that's getting the shaft. LotV was suddenly rushed without an explanation putting a quick stop to what should have been the longest beta in history. Bnet 0.2 was a disaster for years and it's still an unsociable environment.

new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 06 2017 12:26 GMT
#175
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote:
So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here.

Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves.

Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature.


The problem i see is that judging from the afreeca ceo updates there simply wasn't any real conversation behind the scenes.
So in the end afreeca and their sponsors had no idea what was going on, that's certainly bad.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19399 Posts
July 06 2017 13:11 GMT
#176
On July 06 2017 18:06 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote:
So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here.

Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves.

Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature.


Yeah, I agree with this guy. This is fine.

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I'm okay with remaining calm, but whoever is in charge of the SC:R PR is making a huge mistake by not communicating with the community. Even by saying "I know this sucks, but please be patient and we promise BW tournaments will run soon".
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
July 06 2017 14:18 GMT
#177
On July 06 2017 12:13 K.H.J wrote:
Official news.
ATB S2 is cancelled.
Blizzard reject to approve ATB.

Did Blizzard even bother to give an explanation ?
Still try to control over a 19 years old game ffs.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 06 2017 14:30 GMT
#178
On July 06 2017 22:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2017 18:06 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote:
So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here.

Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves.

Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature.


Yeah, I agree with this guy. This is fine.

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I'm okay with remaining calm, but whoever is in charge of the SC:R PR is making a huge mistake by not communicating with the community. Even by saying "I know this sucks, but please be patient and we promise BW tournaments will run soon".

I think communicating with afreeca would be more important tbh. But it doesn't seem like there was any conversation going on, that part bothers me.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11945 Posts
July 06 2017 14:34 GMT
#179
I don't even know how I'd voice my frustration over this. I'm not able to focus much on BW right now but I was waiting, with excitement for this event.

Very pathetic and unnecessary. Good job.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
July 06 2017 14:51 GMT
#180
Did you remember ACL guys?

BJ Ginyuda will make Online ATB instead.

It is not enough for ours, but this is the best in this situation.

AfreecaTV will support Prize.

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