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HaN-
France1920 Posts
The irony. | ||
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chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
I assume games like go and chess don't have to deal with shit like this because they aren't controlled by a corporation whose decisions are ultimately affected by a conflict of interest between supporting the game and increasing revenue. | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1152 Posts
On July 06 2017 16:33 chaosTheory_14cc wrote: This is extremely frustrating. If remastered never existed does anyone think the community could or would have eventually moved over to a non-copyrighted/public domain game like OpenBW? Perhaps even beyond that, a game that functions exactly as BW does but without encroaching on Blizzards IP? I assume games like go and chess don't have to deal with shit like this because they aren't controlled by a corporation whose decisions are ultimately affected by a conflict of interest between supporting the game and increasing revenue. Plenty of top chess players have fallen out with FIDE as it happens. | ||
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raff100
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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NickHotS
United States105 Posts
Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves. Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9547 Posts
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote: So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here. Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves. Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature. Yeah, I agree with this guy. This is fine. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vOOE5PK.jpg) | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7012 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote: So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here. Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves. Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature. How would have a tourney that many were looking forward to disallow them to manage SC:R hype levels? I don't think "hype" a zero-sum game where cancelling a tourney makes the next one all that more "hype". At least for me, definitely not. So in that regard the only feeling I will have when ASL4 starts is anger. But let's put that aside and believe that Blizzard is thinking on doing something. If that is the case, I still wouldn't be happy about the way they handled it. Instead of having announced something and communicated with Afreeca, they just went mute, frustrated the organizer company, the viewers, and fans, and then let the whole tourney get cancelled while still not announcing anything in return. It's hard for me to imagine they can organise a better tourney than ATB2 would've been but even if they did, this is not the way to go. The main point is, I think no one here was jumping to conclusions or worry-mongering. We already arrived at the conclusion: ATB2 is cancelled. No one is better off for it. | ||
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ihcob
23 Posts
On July 06 2017 16:33 chaosTheory_14cc wrote: This is extremely frustrating. If remastered never existed does anyone think the community could or would have eventually moved over to a non-copyrighted/public domain game like OpenBW? Perhaps even beyond that, a game that functions exactly as BW does but without encroaching on Blizzards IP? I assume games like go and chess don't have to deal with shit like this because they aren't controlled by a corporation whose decisions are ultimately affected by a conflict of interest between supporting the game and increasing revenue. Yeah Blizzard still doesn't hold a candle to FIDE - the chess leadership is on a US sanctions list due to ties with the Assad regime, and the man in charge (Ilyumzhinov) believes chess was brought down to earth by aliens and has stated repeatedly that he himself was once abducted by aliens. His autobiography has a chapter titled 'It only takes two weeks to have a man killed.' Top 10 chess players repeatedly threaten to withdraw from top level tournaments due to the organization's management. But yeah never forget that Blizzard works for their shareholders not their players. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Levque
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psd
France94 Posts
Do they have to pollute everything with their greed ? | ||
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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 06 2017 17:58 NickHotS wrote: So much jumping to conclusions and worry-mongering here. So they want to manage the SC:R hype levels? Big deal. The BW tournament scene has gone unmolested since the whole SC2 fiasco. There's really nothing to worry about here. Everyone is waiting for SC:R to drop and with that ASL4, which will be a lot more hype than ASL Team Battle S2 on old graphics. That's of course excluding the possibility Blizzard themselves have something up their sleeves. Just have some patience. I love BW as much as the next guy and am watching Afreeca streams nightly, but have some faith people. I'm not worried. Blizzard has wronged the BW scene in the past, but are doing a great job of making up for that; claiming the sky is falling because of something like this is extremely premature. The problem i see is that judging from the afreeca ceo updates there simply wasn't any real conversation behind the scenes. So in the end afreeca and their sponsors had no idea what was going on, that's certainly bad. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19379 Posts
I'm okay with remaining calm, but whoever is in charge of the SC:R PR is making a huge mistake by not communicating with the community. Even by saying "I know this sucks, but please be patient and we promise BW tournaments will run soon". | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3458 Posts
On July 06 2017 12:13 K.H.J wrote: Official news. ATB S2 is cancelled. Blizzard reject to approve ATB. Did Blizzard even bother to give an explanation ? Still try to control over a 19 years old game ffs. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 06 2017 22:11 BisuDagger wrote: I'm okay with remaining calm, but whoever is in charge of the SC:R PR is making a huge mistake by not communicating with the community. Even by saying "I know this sucks, but please be patient and we promise BW tournaments will run soon". I think communicating with afreeca would be more important tbh. But it doesn't seem like there was any conversation going on, that part bothers me. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11393 Posts
Very pathetic and unnecessary. Good job. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
BJ Ginyuda will make Online ATB instead. It is not enough for ours, but this is the best in this situation. AfreecaTV will support Prize. | ||
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