On June 25 2017 07:57 AnarchisticObi1 wrote: well i just could not believe that someone would give away such amount... and there were two exchange rates and possibly you could gain baloons some other way... so right on..
Huge donations are not uncommon for popular streamers. I mean just search on YouTube for "twitch donations" or something like that and I'm sure you'll find some examples. Some people just have THAT much money to throw around. I feel like most of the people that do that do not actually work for their money (or they make a ton of money), but are rather rich kids with wealthy parents that say "here's $100,000, do what you want it".
ROFL just watched Larva vs Last, Last is winning and floats his CC into Larva's main, Larva starts raging but keeps playing on, Last builds an SCV with the floated CC and builds a manner CC in Larva's main and Larva absolutely loses it. Smashes his keyboard into pieces before say GG and proceeds to off his stream. Someone needs to upload the VOD when it comes out, too hilarious.
On June 26 2017 02:06 Dante08 wrote: ROFL just watched Larva vs Last, Last is winning and floats his CC into Larva's main, Larva starts raging but keeps playing on, Last builds an SCV with the floated CC and builds a manner CC in Larva's main and Larva absolutely loses it. Smashes his keyboard into pieces before say GG and proceeds to off his stream. Someone needs to upload the VOD when it comes out, too hilarious.
bahaha can't believe I missed this. Someone please upload and link!
Also Last watched the VOD of larva's stream when larva was flashing his keyboard. He played classical music to it and mimed being a director with wooden sticks lol
On June 24 2017 10:34 Disregard wrote: Larva has great mechanics so he can definitely match Flash. But I still feel JD has the superior micro and strategic sense.
only the strategy part. JD is inferior to larva basically. Get JD to play Flash/Last 100-200 games per month and watch his win rate drop 10-20%
Larva is an inspiration, but if Jaedong played as much as him he'd be way ahead, imo.
Jaedong is more talented but Larva is way smarter these days. Yeah I wish JD would play more games though.
Isn't it because of hand/wrist issues that prevents Jaedong from playing as much as he wants to?
On June 24 2017 10:34 Disregard wrote: Larva has great mechanics so he can definitely match Flash. But I still feel JD has the superior micro and strategic sense.
only the strategy part. JD is inferior to larva basically. Get JD to play Flash/Last 100-200 games per month and watch his win rate drop 10-20%
Larva is an inspiration, but if Jaedong played as much as him he'd be way ahead, imo.
Jaedong is more talented but Larva is way smarter these days. Yeah I wish JD would play more games though.
Isn't it because of hand/wrist issues that prevents Jaedong from playing as much as he wants to?
Well thats topic for another discussion. Larva playing smarter/better is just obvious from watching streams right now.
Don't get me wrong - I agree that if Jeadong were doing 120 hour streams like Larva does then he would be much much better. But that's simply not the case and we have to deal with it. The reason doesn't really matter in my opinion.
On June 26 2017 02:31 Klairg wrote: Also Last watched the VOD of larva's stream when larva was flashing his keyboard. He played classical music to it and mimed being a director with wooden sticks lol
On June 24 2017 10:34 Disregard wrote: Larva has great mechanics so he can definitely match Flash. But I still feel JD has the superior micro and strategic sense.
Not true. Some of the stuff Larva does I don't see anyone else do.
For example: Flash does an unsuccessful sunken break. Larva throws down queen's nest before hydra den because he thinks he can still hold third without lurkers.
I've NEVER seen people do this before. I've seen crazy Zerg where people skip lurkers completely, but not "let me get Hive faster to make sure I can get swarm and nydus out and fortify my advantage" type of play with lurkers.
What is really interesting about Larva recent ZvT, is he's phasing out ultras more and more. I remember games where he won late game with pure ling and the random muta switch (all of these with defiler/queen support of course). His main and 3rd usually have like 12 hatcheries late game, it's crazy
Larva rage is best rage, that's some Terror shit right there. Last is annoying the shit out of him. But you can't win AlphaGo even you're doing 100 hour stream because Last himself plays shit ton of games with his at least 5 smurfs, guy is robotic - when he loses no emotion, nothing at all.
On June 26 2017 08:52 outscar wrote: Larva rage is best rage, that's some Terror shit right there. Last is annoying the shit out of him. But you can't win AlphaGo even you're doing 100 hour stream because Last himself plays shit ton of games with his at least 5 smurfs, guy is robotic - when he loses no emotion, nothing at all.
I think at some point that's probably negatively effecting him. Clearly massive practice works, but even then you need some time to process, digest, and refresh the mind.
On June 26 2017 08:52 outscar wrote: Larva rage is best rage, that's some Terror shit right there. Last is annoying the shit out of him. But you can't win AlphaGo even you're doing 100 hour stream because Last himself plays shit ton of games with his at least 5 smurfs, guy is robotic - when he loses no emotion, nothing at all.
I think at some point that's probably negatively effecting him. Clearly massive practice works, but even then you need some time to process, digest, and refresh the mind.
He did say that he had been analyzing Last and Flash's plays to look for any opening/weakness. He also said he analyzes his play.
More importantly, At this level, zvt is all about mechanics. Flash, after losing to larva in long macro game, said that he needs to up his mechanics to do what he wants to do.
On June 26 2017 08:52 outscar wrote: Larva rage is best rage, that's some Terror shit right there. Last is annoying the shit out of him. But you can't win AlphaGo even you're doing 100 hour stream because Last himself plays shit ton of games with his at least 5 smurfs, guy is robotic - when he loses no emotion, nothing at all.
I think at some point that's probably negatively effecting him. Clearly massive practice works, but even then you need some time to process, digest, and refresh the mind.
thing is, that includes sleeping and other life necessities. I could be wrong but I doubt he's playing 12 hours sessions straight etc...
On June 26 2017 08:52 outscar wrote: Larva rage is best rage, that's some Terror shit right there. Last is annoying the shit out of him. But you can't win AlphaGo even you're doing 100 hour stream because Last himself plays shit ton of games with his at least 5 smurfs, guy is robotic - when he loses no emotion, nothing at all.
I think at some point that's probably negatively effecting him. Clearly massive practice works, but even then you need some time to process, digest, and refresh the mind.
thing is, that includes sleeping and other life necessities. I could be wrong but I doubt he's playing 12 hours sessions straight etc...
I think you would be suprised. Of course he was sleeping and there were some breaks during the day because he is human after all. However I tried to tune in as much as possible and everytime I loaded the stream some BW content was going on - either him playing or spectating others game. He truly practiced a lot recently.
On June 26 2017 08:21 ortseam wrote: Effort has been doing this for a couple of years.
What is really interesting about Larva recent ZvT, is he's phasing out ultras more and more. I remember games where he won late game with pure ling and the random muta switch (all of these with defiler/queen support of course). His main and 3rd usually have like 12 hatcheries late game, it's crazy
Effort's decision making is dumb as hell, though. Larva will frequently do stuff like just make 6 lurkers, 2 defilers and then a bazillion drones. How he doesn't die is beyond me. Then suddenly he surprises his opponent with an explosion of units. Once he went lurker/defiler into straight 20+ queens. No ultra until later. Effort for some reason can't pull off droning his 4 bases that quickly. You see this with foreign players like Eonzerg that have good mechanics - he just doesn't have as many drones as Larva does at the same stage of the game.
Effort has great mechanics, probably the best in the game. He just can't pull off the Sauron Zerg infinity lings style Larva does in the late game - he doesn't keep on massing expansions and drones to get to that point.
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