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Look who's finally impressed.
Hello, Teamliquid.
After reading classicyellow83's post about the top 5 players in April, I noticed that Larva performed quite well relative to other Zerg players against the top 5. That made me curious to see how he has improved since classicyellow83 began making these posts. I went back and checked his monthly results against Bisu, Last, and FlaSh in particular from June 2016 to now (April 2017). Below in the first spoiler are the data I collected. For each month the number of games Larva won is on the left, and the number of games each of the top players won is on the right.
+ Show Spoiler + June 2016
Bisu 1:6 Last 2:10 Flash 1:11
July 2016
Bisu 3:15 Last 0:1 Flash 4:6
August 2016
Bisu 1:7 Last 4:4 Flash 3:8
September 2016
Bisu 0:16 Last 2:10 Flash 4:8
October 2016
Bisu 4:2 Last 5:6 Flash 3:11
November 2016
Bisu 5:4 Last 1:4 Flash 3:6
December 2016
Bisu 2:6 Last 0:1 Flash 2:4
January 2017
Bisu MISSING Last 13:24 Flash 5:23
February 2017
Bisu MISSING Last 12:56 Flash 5:21
March 2017
Bisu 4:8 Last MISSING Flash 13:24
April 2017
Bisu 10:19 Last 5 : 9 Flash 16:35
Current Cumulative Win Ratio (Total Larva Wins/Total Games From June 2016 - April 2017) Larva vs. Bisu: 30/113 = 0.265 Larva vs. Last: 44/169 = 0.260 Larva vs. FlaSh: 59/216 = 0.273
EDIT: I forgot to mention this means Larva wins roughly 1 game out of 4 against each of them on average.
If we plot the cumulative win ratio (CWR) versus month, we get the following graphs.
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m8Jurq2.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hFSqN2P.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AB5lxZD.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1MBcyGU.jpg) Note that the x-axis represents months after June 2016, and the y-axis represents Larva's cumulative win ratio to that point since June 2016. Just to be clear, 0 - June 2016 1 - July 2016 2 - August 2016 3 - September 2016 4 - October 2016 5 - November 2016 6 - December 2016 7 - January 2017 8 - February 2017 9 - March 2017 10 - April 2017
As you can see, he has improved significantly against Bisu, Last, and FlaSh since June 2016. It appears he had a New Year's resolution to become really great because he's played many more games against them since the start of 2017. People in the community seem to bash him for inflating the top players' stats, saying he'll never be that good, but I think he's seriously trying hard to improve. Despite constantly losing to these guys and getting frustrated, he never gives up and continues to get better. Honestly I think he is an inspiration. I'll update this post later when more data becomes available.
Sincerely, Shalashaska_123
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I don't know if Larva will ever get that jump from good to great, but it will certainly not be from lack of trying. Dude is always trying super hard
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It's funny, at first he was inflating people's stats, but now he's actually making them worse. He's by going 10-19 he lowered Bisu's PvZ winrate. By going 16-35 against Flash, he made Flash's TvZ the lowest winrate matchup.
Sure, he has a losing record against all of the top players, but he's losing less to them than the field. I noticed this trend too, so I started watching his VODs.
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I'm so sad Larva dropped at ASL group stages, I like his play and really wanted to see him in boX match. I wonder if he had done better if he was feeling better. Sometimes his ZvT is phenomenal and joy to watch, tho sometimes it's the opposite :D
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I was watching some of Larva's games vs Last on CB and there was one game where he completely smashed Last with his first 11 mutas + zerglings. And the next game was a long macro game which he won with queens+ultra/ling+defliers. This guy is much better than people give him credit for.
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Russian Federation481 Posts
It seems Larva play much worse at the stage.
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Dude that face is too much LOL I died laughing.
On a more serious note, truly is an inspiration. Makes me feel so dumb for internally raging at some B- player who whooped my ass and playing like 10 games a week wondering why I'm still shit rofl.
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Larva is great at practicing vs better players in a sense that he will find ways to improve and ultimately come up with a better gameplay vs that practice partner.
This was very clean when Bisu joined afreeca hè would crush larva 16-1 +/- larva kept fightingNd improved, later than on afreeca Bisu showed weakness in his pvz mu he dropped like 5 games vs a C level zerg Who splits the map and Will turtle hard until defiler is out only then to fight under darkswarm, Bisu at that time did all the wrong things to handle that type of zerg play ( taking center and investing into cannons ) while the center is an easy target for darkswarm 3-3 lurk ling defiler.
Around that time alot of epic 40min close games were played. Between larva & bisu where larva would adjust his style and always 4base split map vs Bisu in the end larva would win Some Bo3s even evening out scores more than before, not bad for a B-teamer vs the godly protoss
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Croatia9487 Posts
Larva is currently my favorite player and the first stream I open whenever I see him streaming. Massing games like no one, plays on incredibly high level, and his after-the-game antics are fun as hell (basically, way, way watered down version of TerrOr).
I really wish he would do well in official tournaments as well, but he never seems to play as good as he plays on his stream.
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It's really weird. When I first saw Larva on ASL season 1 and 2 I was wondering how he got through. Then I found that he was actually a great player online with a bad case of stage nerves.
Now we wait for Larva to morph into an Ultralisk.
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So this means we now have a true underdog to root for. Big goals, great work ethic, significant improvement. Exciting
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im really rooting for larva since start of this year this is when his zvt became a great joy to watch
i think all pros are doing pretty bad on the stage but he is an extreme case
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hong9 is crushing the decent players currently up 6-0 vs Mong tonight,
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FlaSh's face lol so funny, I always loved Larva[S.G], gosu Zerg
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
He's definitely improved vs Bisu.
But for Last/Flash, if you take away the first 2 datapoints for each, the slope looks statistically insignificant and within error bounds so far. (I'm not a statistician so I can't comment on how much data you need for a >95% confidence interval, but I don't think we're there yet).
That being said I definitely hope for continued improvement. IIRC he was one of the "Gods of the Practice Room" right?
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Who is the terran he is playing right now (Chicken)?
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7-1 final score vs Mong who had some mental breakdown moments like when hong9 plays vs Last/Flash
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the picture is so brilliant of larva giving the tumps down and flash smilingly approving larvas inner darkswarm beast
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On May 09 2017 04:48 sickkungen wrote: 7-1 final score vs Mong who had some mental breakdown moments like when hong9 plays vs Last/Flash
this screams for a clip o god mong is so funny when he is mad
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On May 09 2017 04:44 iamho wrote: Who is the terran he is playing right now (Chicken)?
Mong
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