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ASL2 Ro8 Preview Pt2- Bisu Swept & Hero Dismantled - Page 2

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L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
January 08 2017 05:42 GMT
#21
The only way we're going to see an upset is if Flash does like Bisu and goes for really risky strats. I understand why Bisu would be afraid of Sea's long game. I do think Bisu's is atleast as good, but Sea could certainly go head to head with him in a macro series. Best vs Sea, if they stick to their normal styles, will give a good indication of how Bisu would have fared, had he went for a passive style.
Flash however doesn't have much to be afraid of in terms of long and passive games. His fundamentals and game sense is strong enough that there's no way Guemchi will get away with any protoss economical shenanigans (Flash's reactionary bunker rushing and early timing attacks in TvP are disgustingly strong), and seeing as Guemchi will most likely go for some strange midgame rush or tech builds, Flash would take huge unneccessary risks if he went for a blind unorthodox build.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11546 Posts
January 08 2017 06:02 GMT
#22
On January 08 2017 08:11 TwiggyWan wrote:
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On Eye of the Storm, Bisu opted for 1 gate cc


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BeSt pulled out a double stargate build and immediately began massing overlords.


You may wanna fix that in the article

BeSt is so good he can make overlords from stargates.

Thanks for pointing it out. ^_^
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 08 2017 06:22 GMT
#23
If Guemchi actually manages to get it to game 5, it would be already amazing. Guemchi beating Flash is unlikely but, if he does somehow, biggest upset of this ASL and any upset in the last couple of years imo. Flash's game overall is extremely solid and his decisions are on another level. So long as he plays it safe and scouts thoroughly, Flash can take this series 3-0.

On January 08 2017 08:11 TwiggyWan wrote:
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On Eye of the Storm, Bisu opted for 1 gate cc


Show nested quote +
BeSt pulled out a double stargate build and immediately began massing overlords.


You may wanna fix that in the article

thanks, fixed. Meant core and autotyped cc, can tell I'm a terran player
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
January 08 2017 08:49 GMT
#24
Wrath of god ROFL

I WOKE UP MY NEIGHBOR LAUGHING AT THAT:
Failure is not an option
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 08 2017 10:02 GMT
#25
On January 08 2017 08:30 BisuDagger wrote:
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On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote:
Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me.

I picked Sea to beat Bisu, i just couldnt have that on written record in a news post lol.

[image loading]


Flash will prove you wrong
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19383 Posts
January 08 2017 12:14 GMT
#26
On January 08 2017 19:02 thezanursic wrote:
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On January 08 2017 08:30 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote:
Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me.

I picked Sea to beat Bisu, i just couldnt have that on written record in a news post lol.

[image loading]


Flash will prove you wrong

Yes he will haha. I didn't expect anyone else to pick Guemchi on staff lolol.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
January 08 2017 18:40 GMT
#27
because who the hell is (T)M[fOu]?).

I think i used to practice with him like 11-12 years ago...



Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
January 13 2017 09:46 GMT
#28
I know these series deserve a ton of hype, but I have to say that the artwork for the article is SICK! Thank you to whoever created it. Amazing work.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity" -maximus decimus meridius
v1
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Estonia808 Posts
January 13 2017 10:24 GMT
#29
On January 13 2017 18:46 stevethemacguy wrote:
I know these series deserve a ton of hype, but I have to say that the artwork for the article is SICK! Thank you to whoever created it. Amazing work.


Thank you!
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