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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
December 03 2016 10:55 GMT
#61
HYPE.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-03 11:56:07
December 03 2016 11:55 GMT
#62
[image loading]

да флэш просто суший макро терран я не понемаю зачем он вызвался за ничю приемушество было у него на стороне он мог бы просто полететь половиной зданий и поехать войсками в атаку под зданиями зделать сиеге и просто тупо убить тосса у которого был 1 чтормер и пачка кареров с пачкой гунов протев террановского лимита это смешно просто смешно в любом случае у него стояло столько турелей что даже если бы он не смог убить всех кареров то он мог бы просто порубить их интрецепторов
а если бы даже не добил то всё равно кареры бы их слили на его туретках которых там было чтук 20

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Broodwar for life!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 03 2016 22:09 GMT
#63
On December 03 2016 20:55 Cele wrote:
[image loading]

да флэш просто суший макро терран я не понемаю зачем он вызвался за ничю приемушество было у него на стороне он мог бы просто полететь половиной зданий и поехать войсками в атаку под зданиями зделать сиеге и просто тупо убить тосса у которого был 1 чтормер и пачка кареров с пачкой гунов протев террановского лимита это смешно просто смешно в любом случае у него стояло столько турелей что даже если бы он не смог убить всех кареров то он мог бы просто порубить их интрецепторов
а если бы даже не добил то всё равно кареры бы их слили на его туретках которых там было чтук 20

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LOL I remember like yesterday this meme.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 04 2016 07:09 GMT
#64
Something that is constantly getting overlooked is the fact that unlike the past, we don't have a lot of different offline tournaments or PL going on atm. Most of what we have is ASL (originally SSL too but that's folded). With only a single ongoing offline tournaments, we have to consider online tournaments, showmatches etc...

Weighing isn't an exact science here and never is. Sure, some players could potentially move a couple of slots up or down but based on everything on all the above info, I believe the PR captures the true essence of how well the players rank atm. I've seen people claim that I was being unfair to Sea, Best, Mong and several others, rather I was insulting them due to them being placed lower than the fresher faces in the scene.

Thing is, take a look at how those "newer" faces are doing atm. SK has quite a decent record against top players atm. Not the best but far above the rest mentioned above especially considering how long he's been back for. Jaedong has been taking games off more and more terrans and though he lost the legend match to Bisu, he's been improving a lot every day. Rain's PvT is on fire and he recently finished third in Thrill Starleague which had a rather competitive pool.

On the other hand, Sea has been actively going downhill since the first ASL. His record and Best's against any of the top players are outright disgusting. His performance is extremely disappointing to see, whether you are a fan of his or not. Personally, I cheered for him for a long time in the post-kespa era (SRT days, meeting Killer in finals a lot, lots of bizzare games, destroying sSak 4-0 etc... good times) but you can't deny that he doesn't play as well as he used to. Also, let's keep in mind that there were only so many challengers in those days. Nowadays, the player pool skill has increased by quite a bit especially with the return of TBLS.

I could go on and on but suffice to say, the level of the current players fluctuates on a monthly basis.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 13:41:28
December 05 2016 13:08 GMT
#65
+ Show Spoiler [Group B spoilers] +
effort's already out.
The heart's eternal vow
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 06 2016 16:23 GMT
#66
Was watching hero's stream when..

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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 16:37 GMT
#67
^ Haha nice, too bad he can't read english but I hope he enjoyed it :D
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5198 Posts
December 06 2016 17:16 GMT
#68
I imagine he was mad/laughing that Sharp was ranked above him ^^
FBH #1!
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
December 08 2016 02:13 GMT
#69
In Terror's blurb: "eliciting to do other stuff"

...pretty sure you mean "electing" to do other stuff
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
December 08 2016 02:51 GMT
#70
On December 07 2016 02:16 Peeano wrote:
I imagine he was mad/laughing that Sharp was ranked above him ^^

well... he was knocked out in the round of 8 and sharp made it to the finals...
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 08 2016 03:47 GMT
#71
On December 08 2016 11:13 kochanfe wrote:
In Terror's blurb: "eliciting to do other stuff"

...pretty sure you mean "electing" to do other stuff

thanks, fixed
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
December 12 2016 14:05 GMT
#72
On December 07 2016 01:23 iamho wrote:
Was watching hero's stream when..

[image loading]



What exactly did he write?
Are comments in the chat related to that?

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 14 2016 17:47 GMT
#73
Not sure about the comments but it doesn't seem like he wrote anything. I think that's the default text there (the usual "write a comment here").
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
December 25 2016 03:19 GMT
#74
Seeing the power rank makes me feel like I'm back home
SCV good to go sir
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7927 Posts
January 06 2017 10:38 GMT
#75
How much i missed the old bw power rank. That deserves much much love.

Now, Jaedng please show those scrubs who is the boss here.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 06 2017 13:59 GMT
#76
Sea and Best probably read this ranking and got motivated
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
January 06 2017 14:25 GMT
#77
On January 06 2017 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Sea and Best probably read this ranking and got motivated

I'm glad I at least put BeSt in the top 10 (10 ranks higher then TL). Stork, Jaedong, and Guemchi all surprised me though.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 13:41:30
January 18 2017 13:33 GMT
#78
On January 06 2017 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Sea and Best probably read this ranking and got motivated

Yup... putting 'em at #12 and #20 respectively was harsh/off, even before they made the semifinals.

Jaedong at only #10 also didn't make any sense, even with only 2 months practice time... but we all know that now, right?

GuemChi deserved higher than #21 too, though with him you can at least see how someone could've thought that was okay... GC is forever underrated. Though maybe that's starting to change now.


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danielias21
Profile Joined May 2015
39 Posts
January 18 2017 23:05 GMT
#79
those pictures of players are really outdated, like 10 years ago
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
January 19 2017 01:21 GMT
#80
That's not the picture of Terror we now associate with him!
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
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