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WinterViewbot420
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On March 02 2016 13:07 L_Master wrote: This isn't surprising at all. If Flash hadn't touched a PC in 5 years I might be slightly surprised. FlaSh is a former world best of BW. All he needed was a little bit of time to adjust to the interface, get used to some of the new builds, and pretty much ready to rock and roll. It's probably much like being say a pole vaulter or shot putter that took a few years off but still kept their physical training and gym work at elite level. They would need a little bit of time to refresh on technique and some specific athleticism, but the skills are still there and obviously the body still in great shape. In the same way FlaSh's ability to think and make decisions is undoubtedly as good as ever, and it's not like he was even out of shape with basic hotkey and mouse precision as he as still been playing PC games professionally. I don't even think there has been any new builds or strategies in tvz/tvp from both sides since Flash first started to play sc2. I can't really comment on tvt since I don't watch it. Also maps haven't really changed either so I think that also played a role in how fast Flash is getting back to his old skill level. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On March 02 2016 14:15 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I don't even think there has been any new builds or strategies in tvz/tvp from both sides since Flash first started to play sc2. I can't really comment on tvt since I don't watch it. Also maps haven't really changed either so I think that also played a role in how fast Flash is getting back to his old skill level. I haven't followed the post-kespa scene much at all, but is it possible that the overall level of play has fallen off a bit, making it easier for Flash to get back on top? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 02 2016 10:50 bypLy wrote: i wonder how flash can beat these guys. Sea and the like have been playing for all these years, where flash didnt even play a single game. Now he comes back back and owns them. I know Flash is a monster, but anyway it seems quite strange. Believe it or not but it doesn't take you long to get your skills back, especially when you played the game for so many years. Not playing for a couple years, yeah you'll be rusty, but a couple weeks and it all starts coming back. | ||
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WinterViewbot420
345 Posts
On March 02 2016 16:10 blade55555 wrote: Believe it or not but it doesn't take you long to get your skills back, especially when you played the game for so many years. Not playing for a couple years, yeah you'll be rusty, but a couple weeks and it all starts coming back. I dunno about that. I'm so deep in BW I can't go back to SC2 cause I have horrible habits like manually moving workers to mineral lines and putting different units on different hotkeys, setting up camera hotkeys for buildings, even caught myself clicking individual buildings | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12070 Posts
He always has the exact amount of number of units in the right places to defend at the right times. He's not even at full power and his game there looked like his old self playing vs FanTaSy in Proleague/the Bacchus Starleague of 2010. Other players really have to pick it up if they want to stand a full on chance against Flash with full power. I'm not sure if the quality has dropped due to lack of competition, but Flash's vT there made any other TvT I've seen over the past year look insignificant o_O | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
On March 02 2016 07:13 outscar wrote: That's brilliant! Can mod paste all 3 past VODs to main thread so who didn't watch don't have to scroll 60 pages? Also remember the joke about Eonzerg answering "not your business" to welcome4? I saw his name in ladder channel while Flash was streaming, so Eon is really lucky ^^. Seconded, it's also hard to scroll the whole thread searching for vod links without getting spoiled ^^! Thanks in advance. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On March 02 2016 19:46 Qikz wrote: Just saw his first game from yesterday against Sea. Oh my god, Flash really does look like he's on another level in TvT. He always has the exact amount of number of units in the right places to defend at the right times. He's not even at full power and his game there looked like his old self playing vs FanTaSy in Proleague/the Bacchus Starleague of 2010. Other players really have to pick it up if they want to stand a full on chance against Flash with full power. I'm not sure if the quality has dropped due to lack of competition, but Flash's vT there made any other TvT I've seen over the past year look insignificant o_O I also think that usually streamers don't play mirror matches, while Flash doesnt really care. Mirror matchups may have dropped alot in quality. Can't say it for nonmirror though | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On March 02 2016 16:10 blade55555 wrote: Believe it or not but it doesn't take you long to get your skills back, especially when you played the game for so many years. Not playing for a couple years, yeah you'll be rusty, but a couple weeks and it all starts coming back. And I feel SC2 and BW there is some transferable skill, right? He didnt stop progaming after all even though he transit to SC2 .  Some decision making . . . etc . . . at the highest level sometimes it is decision making keke . . Although, some will say Flash SC2 decision is not good cause him alot of games  . | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7212 Posts
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Highgamer
1475 Posts
I'm just rewatching his games against Free from tuesday and I think he's commenting on his scouting (he turns away really fast after seeing 1-2 things) or makes short comments after the game. Maybe he's stating obvious stuff and just trying to actually talk to his viewers more - I'm 100% fine with him being as laconic as he is for now apart from game-commenting - but maybe he's also giving Flash-insights. Thanks in advance edit: on second thought, it would be a great feat to do this as much as possible for all of the comments that these progamers give in hundreds and hundreds of hours (but especially for Flash ^^), somebody must be watching... | ||
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Shinokuki
United States928 Posts
On March 03 2016 06:18 Highgamer wrote: If anyone who understands korean and watches all these streams anyway could just take a short note on every little thing Flash says that isn't common knowledge (to foreigners...), and post them somewhere in this or another thread, like a little blog, I'd really appreciate. I'm just rewatching his games against Free from tuesday and I think he's commenting on his scouting (he turns away really fast after seeing 1-2 things) or makes short comments after the game. Maybe he's stating obvious stuff and just trying to actually talk to his viewers more - I'm 100% fine with him being as laconic as he is for now apart from game-commenting - but maybe he's also giving Flash-insights. Thanks in advance edit: on second thought, it would be a great feat to do this as much as possible for all of the comments that these progamers give in hundreds and hundreds of hours (but especially for Flash ^^), somebody must be watching... one of the good tips i remember hearing from flash was: "Starcraft is all about set up... the game is decided on how well you set up your economy into future. If you're zerg then knowing how to properly time the drones, respond to tiniest changes( make few more drones/less) will guarantee a win." | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 03 2016 09:26 Shinokuki wrote: one of the good tips i remember hearing from flash was: "Starcraft is all about set up... the game is decided on how well you set up your economy into future. If you're zerg then knowing how to properly time the drones, respond to tiniest changes( make few more drones/less) will guarantee a win." Going to wait for Jaedong to stream to tell me how to play Zerg  | ||
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Highgamer
1475 Posts
On March 03 2016 09:26 Shinokuki wrote: one of the good tips i remember hearing from flash was: "Starcraft is all about set up... the game is decided on how well you set up your economy into future. If you're zerg then knowing how to properly time the drones, respond to tiniest changes( make few more drones/less) will guarantee a win." Thx, even if this is a more general comment, it has a special ring to it coming from Flash himself ^^. To me at least it's worthwile reading how exactly a progame points something like that out, what he puts the stress on. Like: Flash is not just saying "macro is important"... And watching his play this is exactly the feeling that you get: superb macro, but with a certain drive to hit timings that I don't see in this form for other Ts. The games vs free very relatively little scouting, presumably perfect read on his opponent, then a little vulture-harrass-setup, flawless macro and defense for a few minutes and BANG, timing hits like a thunderstrike. | ||
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TAKK.borg
Croatia93 Posts
On March 03 2016 09:26 Shinokuki wrote: one of the good tips i remember hearing from flash was: "Starcraft is all about set up... the game is decided on how well you set up your economy into future. If you're zerg then knowing how to properly time the drones, respond to tiniest changes( make few more drones/less) will guarantee a win." Even that I am D/D+ rank player (ICCup) I appreciate this. Thx! | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2614 Posts
On March 02 2016 16:14 WinterViewbot420 wrote: I dunno about that. I'm so deep in BW I can't go back to SC2 cause I have horrible habits like manually moving workers to mineral lines and putting different units on different hotkeys, setting up camera hotkeys for buildings, even caught myself clicking individual buildings That isnt horrible habit, that is mechanical skill. Congratulation. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 03 2016 16:46 chrisolo wrote: That isnt horrible habit, that is mechanical skill. Congratulation. not expecting a guy with a twitch meme for a nick to know whats actual mechanics anyway. anyway will be updating the OP with Flash vod links for easy reference (thanks Forcewater) sorry was late about that. | ||
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WinterViewbot420
345 Posts
On March 03 2016 17:10 Probemicro wrote: not expecting a guy with a twitch meme for a nick to know whats actual mechanics anyway. anyway will be updating the OP with Flash vod links for easy reference (thanks Forcewater) sorry was late about that. Aren't you the guy that was jacking off so much against SC2 you got banned from the subreddit? | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On March 03 2016 17:14 WinterViewbot420 wrote: Aren't you the guy that was jacking off so much against SC2 you got banned from the subreddit? i don't care really about reddit politics unlike you lmao like your fetish for sc2 is any better | ||
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