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On November 02 2017 01:14 Netto. wrote:
Yeah, I watched some of those games from Soulkey POV and man... His ZvT is spectacular, Flash simply cannot keep up sometimes. I think Soulkey's score against Flash is 7:3 today.
Earlier today Flash played against Larva. Lost one bo3 and won one.
But as we've all seen FlaSh is a different animal when you get him in an offline setting. I don't think these online games mean a whole lot tbh. FlaSh also does a lot more unconventional stuff online.
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On November 02 2017 04:52 PorkSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 01:14 Netto. wrote:
Yeah, I watched some of those games from Soulkey POV and man... His ZvT is spectacular, Flash simply cannot keep up sometimes. I think Soulkey's score against Flash is 7:3 today.
Earlier today Flash played against Larva. Lost one bo3 and won one. But as we've all seen FlaSh is a different animal when you get him in an offline setting. I don't think these online games mean a whole lot tbh. FlaSh also does a lot more unconventional stuff online.
Watching the VODs now and kinda agree... I think Flash is just playing his fans, maybe to hype a finals that is most likely going to be a TvZ 3-0 stomp. From the sluggish APM to acting "disappointed" after losing to SK (from overmicroing an elevator mnm's?? very uncharacteristic) and immediately posting VODs on YT titled "practice for the Final!!" -- all seems a tad contrived.
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On November 02 2017 05:27 orvinreyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:52 PorkSoda wrote:On November 02 2017 01:14 Netto. wrote:
Yeah, I watched some of those games from Soulkey POV and man... His ZvT is spectacular, Flash simply cannot keep up sometimes. I think Soulkey's score against Flash is 7:3 today.
Earlier today Flash played against Larva. Lost one bo3 and won one. But as we've all seen FlaSh is a different animal when you get him in an offline setting. I don't think these online games mean a whole lot tbh. FlaSh also does a lot more unconventional stuff online. Watching the VODs now and kinda agree... I think Flash is just playing his fans, maybe to hype a finals that is most likely going to be a TvZ 3-0 stomp. From the sluggish APM to acting "disappointed" after losing to SK (from overmicroing an elevator mnm's?? very uncharacteristic) and immediately posting VODs on YT titled "practice for the Final!!" -- all seems a tad contrived.
In a lot of his TvZ for about the last month it seems, he's been doing a build that gets him fast vultures with mines and a fast starport with cloak and wraiths for muta defense. He spend most of the game barely hanging on by a thread before he throws down 5 rax or gets broken. I've seen him do this very frequently. If he did his standard 5 rax into mech the results would probably look a lot different.
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Damn, look at his spon bo3's vs Soulkey the past few days... Not looking good for hero. Huge Flash fan here but for the sake of the scene I hope hero executes sick games if not pull an upset!!
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Flash preparing to assault the 3rd base. Scans and blinds 3 lurkers, rescans and moves in to kill the now blind lurkers. Amazing.
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On November 06 2017 23:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Flash preparing to assault the 3rd base. Scans and blinds 3 lurkers, rescans and moves in to kill the now blind lurkers. Amazing.
Yeah that was nice. Should've stacked the lurkers, lol
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On November 06 2017 23:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Flash preparing to assault the 3rd base. Scans and blinds 3 lurkers, rescans and moves in to kill the now blind lurkers. Amazing.
I've had that idea a couple of months ago, tried it on ladder in a couple of TvZs.
In the end didn't even get a chance to try it, games were weird.
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On November 02 2017 09:14 PorkSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 05:27 orvinreyes wrote:On November 02 2017 04:52 PorkSoda wrote:On November 02 2017 01:14 Netto. wrote:
Yeah, I watched some of those games from Soulkey POV and man... His ZvT is spectacular, Flash simply cannot keep up sometimes. I think Soulkey's score against Flash is 7:3 today.
Earlier today Flash played against Larva. Lost one bo3 and won one. But as we've all seen FlaSh is a different animal when you get him in an offline setting. I don't think these online games mean a whole lot tbh. FlaSh also does a lot more unconventional stuff online. Watching the VODs now and kinda agree... I think Flash is just playing his fans, maybe to hype a finals that is most likely going to be a TvZ 3-0 stomp. From the sluggish APM to acting "disappointed" after losing to SK (from overmicroing an elevator mnm's?? very uncharacteristic) and immediately posting VODs on YT titled "practice for the Final!!" -- all seems a tad contrived. In a lot of his TvZ for about the last month it seems, he's been doing a build that gets him fast vultures with mines and a fast starport with cloak and wraiths for muta defense. He spend most of the game barely hanging on by a thread before he throws down 5 rax or gets broken. I've seen him do this very frequently. If he did his standard 5 rax into mech the results would probably look a lot different.
Flash has stated 5 rax isn't as powerful anymore. It's hard countered by lurker openings so it's actually safer to go for 4 rax.
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For some reason this makes me smile
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/PRDq6mg.jpg)
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On November 07 2017 21:28 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 09:14 PorkSoda wrote:On November 02 2017 05:27 orvinreyes wrote:On November 02 2017 04:52 PorkSoda wrote:On November 02 2017 01:14 Netto. wrote:
Yeah, I watched some of those games from Soulkey POV and man... His ZvT is spectacular, Flash simply cannot keep up sometimes. I think Soulkey's score against Flash is 7:3 today.
Earlier today Flash played against Larva. Lost one bo3 and won one. But as we've all seen FlaSh is a different animal when you get him in an offline setting. I don't think these online games mean a whole lot tbh. FlaSh also does a lot more unconventional stuff online. Watching the VODs now and kinda agree... I think Flash is just playing his fans, maybe to hype a finals that is most likely going to be a TvZ 3-0 stomp. From the sluggish APM to acting "disappointed" after losing to SK (from overmicroing an elevator mnm's?? very uncharacteristic) and immediately posting VODs on YT titled "practice for the Final!!" -- all seems a tad contrived. In a lot of his TvZ for about the last month it seems, he's been doing a build that gets him fast vultures with mines and a fast starport with cloak and wraiths for muta defense. He spend most of the game barely hanging on by a thread before he throws down 5 rax or gets broken. I've seen him do this very frequently. If he did his standard 5 rax into mech the results would probably look a lot different. Flash has stated 5 rax isn't as powerful anymore. It's hard countered by lurker openings so it's actually safer to go for 4 rax.
Current ASL maps are just not good for standard 5 rax openings. 5 rax is aimed at denying zergs 3rd base, and on maps like Crossing Field / Gold Rush / Outsider zerg can always take a safe 3rd gas. That's why Flash opts for gas openings where he can threaten fast 3rd expos with a dropship and transition into a more aggresive tank push to try do dmg before late game.
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On November 09 2017 00:45 kogeT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2017 21:28 Qikz wrote:On November 02 2017 09:14 PorkSoda wrote:On November 02 2017 05:27 orvinreyes wrote:On November 02 2017 04:52 PorkSoda wrote:On November 02 2017 01:14 Netto. wrote:
Yeah, I watched some of those games from Soulkey POV and man... His ZvT is spectacular, Flash simply cannot keep up sometimes. I think Soulkey's score against Flash is 7:3 today.
Earlier today Flash played against Larva. Lost one bo3 and won one. But as we've all seen FlaSh is a different animal when you get him in an offline setting. I don't think these online games mean a whole lot tbh. FlaSh also does a lot more unconventional stuff online. Watching the VODs now and kinda agree... I think Flash is just playing his fans, maybe to hype a finals that is most likely going to be a TvZ 3-0 stomp. From the sluggish APM to acting "disappointed" after losing to SK (from overmicroing an elevator mnm's?? very uncharacteristic) and immediately posting VODs on YT titled "practice for the Final!!" -- all seems a tad contrived. In a lot of his TvZ for about the last month it seems, he's been doing a build that gets him fast vultures with mines and a fast starport with cloak and wraiths for muta defense. He spend most of the game barely hanging on by a thread before he throws down 5 rax or gets broken. I've seen him do this very frequently. If he did his standard 5 rax into mech the results would probably look a lot different. Flash has stated 5 rax isn't as powerful anymore. It's hard countered by lurker openings so it's actually safer to go for 4 rax. Current ASL maps are just not good for standard 5 rax openings. 5 rax is aimed at denying zergs 3rd base, and on maps like Crossing Field / Gold Rush / Outsider zerg can always take a safe 3rd gas. That's why Flash opts for gas openings where he can threaten fast 3rd expos with a dropship and transition into a more aggresive tank push to try do dmg before late game.
Aha, thanks!
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Did anyone just watch the stream and can explain what happened? oO
Flash had his ramp walled off with rax/fac and was just about to finish his ebay when the protoss attacked with 4-6 DT's, Flash pulled SCV's to repair the buildings, then the P morphed 2 DT's into a DA and Flash left the game. I'm very confused 
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Did the P jump a DT over the wall by morphing a DA next to it? Game isn't up on Korhal yet so I can't watch it yet.
edit: Toss left the game not Flash, either he knew he lost because of the wall in so he was messing around or he made a mistake? Weird
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Ooh, I guess I kinda missed that out of confusion^^ Thanks for clearing that up for me 
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That TvT on FS he just did against Light was tense. A great TvT battle.I love watching a strong TvT on Fighting Spirit.
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Anyone knows what Flash is doing? Trip...
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Yep, I heard he's on vacation in Japan, relax, good for him before ASL5.
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Yep, vacation in Japan, can confirm.
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He needs a good vacation. I hope he has fun on his Japanese trip. Il await his return to own even more players on B.net
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Flash Last Mind Shuttle vs effort Jaedong Best and a guy called Mongsense
a lot of cool games,specially the first game flash vs mongsense
and effort vs last was insane
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