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[Interview] VNSL Finals

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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 24 2016 04:54 GMT
#1
T/N: translation of a chinese translation of a FOMOS article
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Winner: (Z)EffOrt

Q: Your thoughts on winning over Bisu?

A: During the course of the finals I felt uneasy, before the finals I actually have utmost confidence about myself, but honestly I often lose to Bisu on stream. I would say Bisu was pretty unlucky today, it feels like a dream that I am able to beat such a strong opponent like Bisu

Q: why were you uneasy?

A: Because of the issue of OS, I am still not very used to win7 yet i am facing a very strong opponent.

Q: Any regret you could not obtain a flawless 3:0 win?

A: It would be nice to get a 3:0 win. But I have executed everything that I have prepared, so I am satisfied with that.

Q: How did you prepare?

A: I felt that I did not sleep very well during my preparation period, I had (P)free, (P)GuemChi and (P)Movie to aid me with practice. After this I will be treating them to a meal. Especially (P)Movie, since I pestered him a lot for practice.

Q: The final set was exciting, when was the moment that you felt that you have won?

A: Back in 2006 when I first won something, this was also the map of the final set (Probably meant 2010 Korean Air OSL Flash v Effort finals zzz...) Since I have a precedent for this scenario, my mind was at ease, though I did not felt that I was gonna win until the very last moment of the set.

Q: VNSL will continue in 2016.

A: This was an extremely grueling and tiring finals, I want to take a good rest for now. But I will be sure to join the next season.

Q: This is your first major title since returning to BW

A: I always wanted to stand on the biggest stage again, I have the confidence to beat anyone. With hard work, the title is easily achievable.

Q: Do you think the BW leagues will continue on in the future?

A: Honestly in the matches leading up to the finals I did not feel any presence, but today there were tons of people in the audience. I feel proud of the continued popularity of this game. I also express gratitude to the dedicated viewers of my Afreeca stream.

Q: Any plans and goals for the future?

A: I don't really have a concrete goal for the future yet, I guess getting this VNSL title counts as one. As always, I just strive to maintain my position at the top

Q: Any other words?

A: I got too excited when I won the event, so I forgot to express my thanks before. So now I would like to thank AfreecaTV CEO Mr. Seo and also Kongdoo's (Z)Shark. Especially Mr. Seo who has worked very hard for us to ensure the success of this league.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 24 2016 05:05 GMT
#2
A: Because of the issue of OS, I am still not very used to win7 yet i am facing a very strong opponent.


AAHAHAHAHAHAA, HE HAD TO PLAY WITH WIN7 AND STILL WON :D
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 24 2016 05:07 GMT
#3
Gratz effort. If only Bisu's practice partners were giving him real practice instead of shady betting on eyebrows shaving...
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 24 2016 05:20 GMT
#4
Windows 7 killing E-sports guys ;(
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 24 2016 05:22 GMT
#5
Thanks for the translation!

Man, that win7 really destroy Effort, eh?
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 24 2016 06:14 GMT
#6
Thanks for the translation, Probe

Wonderful to hear about the comradery with free, GuemChi and Movie. Sounds like EffOrt really practiced hard
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
January 24 2016 06:26 GMT
#7
What's wrong with playing on windows 7? I don't get it...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-24 06:33:42
January 24 2016 06:28 GMT
#8
On January 24 2016 14:22 Shana wrote:
Thanks for the translation!

Man, that win7 really destroy Effort, eh?


On January 24 2016 15:26 dRaW wrote:
What's wrong with playing on windows 7? I don't get it...



I was playing vs computer offline recently on windows 7 (multiplayer). Muta micro is like having 80 ms lag instead of 0 ms on singleplayer i.e. if you dance around the mutas dont react immediately. For some reason there is an inherent lag with windows 7.

I definitely think that was the reason Efforts muta micro against scourges vs Zero looked so sluggish.
Why don't they just have windows xp on the computers as well? Shouldn't be too hard, right? So players can choose which OS they want to play...

Try out dancing around mutas on windows7 on udp or whatever its called and compare it to singleplayer muta micro.
I thought Effort was just a little diva, but after testing it out I get him now.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 24 2016 10:02 GMT
#9
On January 24 2016 15:28 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 14:22 Shana wrote:
Thanks for the translation!

Man, that win7 really destroy Effort, eh?


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 15:26 dRaW wrote:
What's wrong with playing on windows 7? I don't get it...



I was playing vs computer offline recently on windows 7 (multiplayer). Muta micro is like having 80 ms lag instead of 0 ms on singleplayer i.e. if you dance around the mutas dont react immediately. For some reason there is an inherent lag with windows 7.

I definitely think that was the reason Efforts muta micro against scourges vs Zero looked so sluggish.
Why don't they just have windows xp on the computers as well? Shouldn't be too hard, right? So players can choose which OS they want to play...

Try out dancing around mutas on windows7 on udp or whatever its called and compare it to singleplayer muta micro.
I thought Effort was just a little diva, but after testing it out I get him now.


And people have been making fun of me when I say I prefer XP for gaming. Take that, unbelievers!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 25 2016 04:33 GMT
#10
On January 24 2016 15:28 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 14:22 Shana wrote:
Thanks for the translation!

Man, that win7 really destroy Effort, eh?


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 15:26 dRaW wrote:
What's wrong with playing on windows 7? I don't get it...



I was playing vs computer offline recently on windows 7 (multiplayer). Muta micro is like having 80 ms lag instead of 0 ms on singleplayer i.e. if you dance around the mutas dont react immediately. For some reason there is an inherent lag with windows 7.

I definitely think that was the reason Efforts muta micro against scourges vs Zero looked so sluggish.
Why don't they just have windows xp on the computers as well? Shouldn't be too hard, right? So players can choose which OS they want to play...

Try out dancing around mutas on windows7 on udp or whatever its called and compare it to singleplayer muta micro.
I thought Effort was just a little diva, but after testing it out I get him now.

Really interesting information -- would you be able to take a quick video or otherwise document this difference?

Would be a great reference. I can do a quick LP write-up for it, too
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 07:13:59
January 25 2016 07:13 GMT
#11
I was thinking of reinstalling windows XP, I'll probably do that^^ things like navigating files is slower in 7 than XP too
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 25 2016 11:00 GMT
#12
Maybe there is a fix for that. I don't think that microsoft suddenly introduces lag to lan
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 25 2016 12:04 GMT
#13
On January 25 2016 16:13 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
I was thinking of reinstalling windows XP, I'll probably do that^^ things like navigating files is slower in 7 than XP too


As someone who is in IT Support, good luck with XP. It's more awful than people remember it being.
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
January 25 2016 16:13 GMT
#14
On January 25 2016 21:04 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 16:13 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
I was thinking of reinstalling windows XP, I'll probably do that^^ things like navigating files is slower in 7 than XP too


As someone who is in IT Support, good luck with XP. It's more awful than people remember it being.

I was using it recently on other comp, some basic functions were faster (graphics display and file navigation), but I had a incompatibility problem with flash player on browsers. It also just boots a lot faster. But it's on a different PC, on a lower end one I used XP but with smaller/less used hard disk for example.. maybe some things are due to hardware. The main windows 7 perk I remember is network setup being a lot easier/reliable?

It's still windows.. I would use linux if I wasn't such a gamer. I think 7 is alright but if those speed problems are related to it frankly I think I just prefer XP in the end.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 25 2016 16:16 GMT
#15
On January 25 2016 13:33 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 15:28 duke91 wrote:
On January 24 2016 14:22 Shana wrote:
Thanks for the translation!

Man, that win7 really destroy Effort, eh?


On January 24 2016 15:26 dRaW wrote:
What's wrong with playing on windows 7? I don't get it...



I was playing vs computer offline recently on windows 7 (multiplayer). Muta micro is like having 80 ms lag instead of 0 ms on singleplayer i.e. if you dance around the mutas dont react immediately. For some reason there is an inherent lag with windows 7.

I definitely think that was the reason Efforts muta micro against scourges vs Zero looked so sluggish.
Why don't they just have windows xp on the computers as well? Shouldn't be too hard, right? So players can choose which OS they want to play...

Try out dancing around mutas on windows7 on udp or whatever its called and compare it to singleplayer muta micro.
I thought Effort was just a little diva, but after testing it out I get him now.

Really interesting information -- would you be able to take a quick video or otherwise document this difference?

Would be a great reference. I can do a quick LP write-up for it, too

It has been reported many times that BW is unplayable on new Windows.
I rolled back to Windows 7 from 8 because of lags which made playing less responsive.
It is playable on 7 but it looks like XP is the only version that can be played on without any issues.
And even though it is interesting, sort of, to know the reason, I do not think it changes anything.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 25 2016 16:19 GMT
#16
On January 26 2016 01:13 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 21:04 Qikz wrote:
On January 25 2016 16:13 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
I was thinking of reinstalling windows XP, I'll probably do that^^ things like navigating files is slower in 7 than XP too


As someone who is in IT Support, good luck with XP. It's more awful than people remember it being.

I was using it recently on other comp, some basic functions were faster (graphics display and file navigation), but I had a incompatibility problem with flash player on browsers. It also just boots a lot faster. But it's on a different PC, on a lower end one I used XP but with smaller/less used hard disk for example.. maybe some things are due to hardware. The main windows 7 perk I remember is network setup being a lot easier/reliable?

It's still windows.. I would use linux if I wasn't such a gamer. I think 7 is alright but if those speed problems are related to it frankly I think I just prefer XP in the end.

You won't prefer it forever.
New machines will make it impossible to have XP.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
January 25 2016 17:02 GMT
#17
anyone wanna test without/without windows aero on? I know that aero causes input lag because it forces vsync, perhaps this is why?
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 25 2016 18:14 GMT
#18
i've been using http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/499943-ddraw-fix-by-aqrit to play brood war on windows 8.1 and it works quite well actually, and is a great improvement over the current lag that I experienced beforehand. Now, results may vary for others, but it is possible to still play bw on newer OSes
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States347 Posts
January 25 2016 18:50 GMT
#19
On January 26 2016 01:16 letian wrote:
It is playable on 7 but it looks like XP is the only version that can be played on without any issues.

Windows 98 for the true hardcore players /s

Is Win7/8 delayed with the Direct Draw emulation on MCA launcher too?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 25 2016 19:59 GMT
#20
Thanks for the interview!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 25 2016 22:01 GMT
#21
On January 26 2016 04:59 Grettin wrote:
Thanks for the interview!

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 25 2016 23:09 GMT
#22
my win7 doesn't have any delay at all, i dont know what you guys are talking about (even with ddraw turned off)..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
cpt.ahab
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
United States17 Posts
January 25 2016 23:22 GMT
#23
I don't know a thing about tournaments so a few questions.

You can only use your own mouse/keyboard?

You must use the tournaments computer and monitor? (makes sense of course for set up time etc)

It seems in VODs Koreans never use mcalauncher for all the extra observer info, why? It was rather annoying in the english cast of the finals that they acted like its not possible to have all that information like SC2 has.

I wondered why the hell they used win7 for that tournament also.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8548 Posts
January 25 2016 23:28 GMT
#24
On January 26 2016 01:19 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 01:13 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
On January 25 2016 21:04 Qikz wrote:
On January 25 2016 16:13 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
I was thinking of reinstalling windows XP, I'll probably do that^^ things like navigating files is slower in 7 than XP too


As someone who is in IT Support, good luck with XP. It's more awful than people remember it being.

I was using it recently on other comp, some basic functions were faster (graphics display and file navigation), but I had a incompatibility problem with flash player on browsers. It also just boots a lot faster. But it's on a different PC, on a lower end one I used XP but with smaller/less used hard disk for example.. maybe some things are due to hardware. The main windows 7 perk I remember is network setup being a lot easier/reliable?

It's still windows.. I would use linux if I wasn't such a gamer. I think 7 is alright but if those speed problems are related to it frankly I think I just prefer XP in the end.

You won't prefer it forever.
New machines will make it impossible to have XP.


New machines what?
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 09:21:56
January 27 2016 09:21 GMT
#25
On January 26 2016 08:22 cpt.ahab wrote:
I don't know a thing about tournaments so a few questions.

You can only use your own mouse/keyboard?

You must use the tournaments computer and monitor? (makes sense of course for set up time etc)

It seems in VODs Koreans never use mcalauncher for all the extra observer info, why? It was rather annoying in the english cast of the finals that they acted like its not possible to have all that information like SC2 has.

I wondered why the hell they used win7 for that tournament also.

Yup, players bring their own keyboard and mouse,and use the studio's computer and monitor.

The VNSL didn't have the helpful resource/unit counts, unfortunately. The old OSL-style displays would have been amazing, and they're definitely still available, as we saw at (Wiki)SSL11.

Most online tournaments (e.g. the ongoing (Wiki)41 Starleague Season 4) are set up to display that information on the observer's view -- some even display APMs, which is fun to watch, especially during intense attacks/defense.
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