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[Interview] 'Adieu' Flash, "My hands itch to play games"

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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 17:51:44
January 01 2016 08:09 GMT
#1
Someone asked me to translate this article.

I'm sorry for being late, but excuse me; it`s New Year's Day and I have rights to enjoy it.

Flash (23, former player of KT Rolster) is one of the greatest players of SC. He started his career at the age of 14, then became the youngest winner in the Starleague next year. He won every tournaments that held in 2010, remaining a new milestone of esports. That Flash announced his retirement and had retire ceremony, saying that he needs a rest.
We met Flash, who`s enjoying his new freedom to sleep and drink as much he wants.

Is there any change in your life?

"Not really. However, I often get up at noon these days; I used to get up at nine. Occasionally I skip meals for my sleeping. Sometimes uncertain future makes me nervous, but I`m fine; I`m taking a rest."

What are you doing these days?

"Meeting mates that I have not seen for a while. I`m drinking all the alcohol that I could not drunken. I was dry when I was in esport scene; not now, of course. I can drink Soju up to 1 and half bottles. My capacity of Beer is limitless. Love Makgeolli, too."

Are you seeing anyone lately?

"No. I`ve met one or two when I was in esprots but it didn`t last long because I could not reply their texts. I`m not a guy who can do love and work both; my APM isn`t that high. At the time I was just focused on my work.

Let me hear your Miss. Right.

"I prefer mild-tempered woman, whose appearance is quite Korean-traditional with tin makeup. I want to meet one who knows how to relax, not interrupted by works. I`m not thinking about meeting someone, though."

What did your parents say when you told them your retirement?

"I told them in the middle of this season. They just said, "You've done well. Do what you want." They are really proud of my career. Maybe, I suppose they`re thinking "Our son went trough arm-operation. We should understand the hardship that he feels."

What makes you to decide your retirement?

"I was exhausted. Kespa Teams have tight schedule; there`s no freedom. Though no one would say anything if I was late for that schedule, it was quite tough because I tried to keep it straight. That`s why."

You could be a coaching staff.

"KT offered me a playing coach. They said the team will care enough about me. However I want to do something unhelped. I want to challenge coaching squarely after my service. Anyway, I want to be a coach in the long run."

Or you could be in a foreign team.

"I`m afraid of height. 2 years ago, on the return flight from American tournament, the plain shaked due to turbulence. After that, I do not go overseas that takes more than two hours."

What was the most memorable match?

"Ever Starleague Ro.8. It was 2009, I was playing against JD. It was Christmas eve. I was very suprised that there were so many people out there. After that, JD and I frequently met at the match."

What`s your happiest moment?

"The first winning at major tournament. I won first at the 'Bacchus Starleague 2008'. It felt unrealistic, because It's only been a little over a year since my debut. "It`s good choice to be a progamer" this is what I thought. I got more fame, more money. My parents stop opposing my progaming and start supporting my passion."

When was your toughest moment?


"The time when I went surgery. It was 2011. It was very hard time for me, because I wasn`t sure whether I could play games again. Also I was worrying about other players clawing their way up. Moreover, I was the first player who went surgery while progaming. That`s why I worked hard at my rehab; I took rehab for 4 months at Pyeongchang, which is scheduled for football players. It was hellish, because I had to excercies 6 hours per day.

Is there any regrets that you have?

"It`s a shame that the transition from BW to SC2 was happened suddenly; BW was loved my many fans, and all of sudden it was gone. If the transition was a bit more smooth, SC2 would got more popularity. I had no regrets at that time, because I`m a person who enjoys changes. I thought that I could win the championship again if I did my best. I assumed that BW fans will love SC2 too, but it wasn`t. It made me started."

Tell me which record you cherish most.

"I won Starleague, MSL, Proleague, WCG in 2010; it was a Grandslam. It was my prime time. I had to play 4-5 days for tournaments for every week. I repeatedly practiced and played; I don't think I could've been that attainable again if I go back then.

Your biggest rival was JD.

"He was the motivation that made me the best. He prevented me from being soft and lazy. We used to compete fiercely; However, now we`re having fun, talking about glory days. It seems that JD is enjoying his life, not tied to the competetion. I envy him."

It is known that you`ve earned quite a lot.

"No.1 in BW. I think I can afford my marriage, house and future business (he said restraurant for instance.) without my parent`s help.

Flash in 2016

What`s your future plan?

"I took a rest in December and gonna do something in January. I was supposed to go family trips, but somehow I couldn`t. There`re some offers; most of`em are about streaming BW. Some offers are quite specific. However, I don`t wanna be tied to the things. I`m planning to try new things. For instance, I`m gonna get my drivers license."

How about playing LOL?

"I considered it, but there are tons of people who wants me to play BW. I think I can play LOL good as well, but my arm hurts. I can practice SC by watching VODs, but I cannot when it comes to LOL. I`m not sure about LOL."

Isn`t it a bit tedious to play games?

"As a player, it was. It was rather working than playing. Funny thing is, after I quit my progaming, my hands itch to play games; it`s something like retired people want to work. Even now I wanna play computer games; It`s really fun to compete with others.

Military service?

"In a year or two, maybe three at most. Of course I can do my service earlier, but it feels a bit sorry. I wanna do everything that I want to do before joining army. You know, road trip or going abroad, etc."

Say a word to your fans.

"I'd not said to my fans 'thank you' frequently; your support made me responsible for my job. I hope I can give back all the love that you gave me. I`ll see you next year in a better shape, with my keyboard and mouse."

Say a word to your team, KT Rolster.

"KT was a fence that protected me for nine years. KT enabled me to play with confidence. Thank you. I believe we're meant to meet again."

▶ Who's Flash?

Lee Young-ho(23), a former progamer from Daejeon, started his career in 2007 with KTF MagicNs after being a practice partner of PANTECH & CURITEL in 2006.

In 2008, he made a spectacular debut; he claimed the youngest winner of the Starleague at the age of 15. Since then, he has never left championships without winning trophies and MVP. In 2010, he reached his height by winning all competitions that were held in the season.

In 2012, though transition from BW to SC2 stopped him from winning tournaments, he led his team to victory and proved his skills were not rusted yet.

He has received many outstanding awards such as Rookie of the year, Best Terran of the year and The best player of the year.

Also, he`s the money leader of BW; he got $430K for prize from 2008 to 2014. Considering this excludes his salary,[Around $200K per year] it is estimated that his income would be much larger that that.


http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=241&aid=0002514587
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 01 2016 08:15 GMT
#2
Thanks a lot for the translation! Quite revealing.
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mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
January 01 2016 08:24 GMT
#3
"I'm sorry for being late, but it`s New Year's Day; I have rights to enjoy it."

this is very lame, just delete it
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49891 Posts
January 01 2016 08:29 GMT
#4
Thank you for translating the interview especially because I requested for it.
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 01 2016 08:29 GMT
#5
On January 01 2016 17:24 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
"I'm sorry for being late, but it`s New Year's Day; I have rights to enjoy it."

this is very lame, just delete it


Am I living in an age which self-excusing is not allowed?

O tempora! O mores!
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
January 01 2016 08:32 GMT
#6
maybe its normal in korea but here is just pathetic
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49891 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 08:35:15
January 01 2016 08:34 GMT
#7
On January 01 2016 17:32 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
maybe its normal in korea but here is just pathetic


come on, is this really worth picking a fight over? He still went out of his way to translate the interview.

on topic though, I like how flash says he can practice from just watching vods, clearly hes able draw skill from just that like fictional characters who are able master powers just by reading about them from books.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 08:39:23
January 01 2016 08:37 GMT
#8
On January 01 2016 17:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:32 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
maybe its normal in korea but here is just pathetic


come on, is this really worth picking a fight over? He still went out of his way to translate the interview.

on topic though, I like how flash says he can practice from just watching vods, clearly hes able draw skill from just that like fictional characters who are able master powers just by reading about them from books.

Well... what I don't understand: He says his arm hurts, which is why he probably won't play LoL. Even if he can understand SC by watching VoDs, if he wants to play it again, I think it'll be much more harmful for his arm. Mechanically they are a different monster of games.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 01 2016 08:38 GMT
#9
Sometimes I really miss Victorian hypocrisy; the time when self-excusing was considered a way of expressing one`s modesty.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
January 01 2016 08:43 GMT
#10
If he really thinks he can beat other pro gamers just from watching VODs, I already feel sorry for them if he switches back to BW.

I mean, that's quite a grand statement, but, let's face it, his words carry clout.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49891 Posts
January 01 2016 08:43 GMT
#11
On January 01 2016 17:37 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 01 2016 17:32 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
maybe its normal in korea but here is just pathetic


come on, is this really worth picking a fight over? He still went out of his way to translate the interview.

on topic though, I like how flash says he can practice from just watching vods, clearly hes able draw skill from just that like fictional characters who are able master powers just by reading about them from books.

Well... what I don't understand: He says his arm hurts, which is why he probably won't play LoL. Even if he can understand SC by watching VoD's, if he wants to play it again, I think it'll be much more harmful for his arm. Mechanically they are a different monster of games.


maybe its a certain degree of muscle memory and the repetitive action that flash has been used to for years compared to say LoL which is both gameplay wise and mechanically different that it would be a pain for him to play physically and mentally. Kinda like you're comfortable doing something a certain way even though theres a better way of doing it but because you've been doing it in the inefficient way for so long you're body is just used to it.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 01 2016 09:21 GMT
#12
Thanks for the translation, great interview!
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
January 01 2016 10:02 GMT
#13
Great read!
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6196 Posts
January 01 2016 10:15 GMT
#14
What are you doing these days?

"Meeting mates that I have not seen for a while. I`m drinking all the alcohol that I could not drunken. I was dry when I was in esport scene; not now, of course. I can drink Soju up to 1 and half bottles. My capacity of Beer is limitless. Love Makgeolli, too."

Are you seeing anyone lately?

"No. I`ve met one or two when I was in esprots but it didn`t last long because I could not reply their texts. I`m not a guy who can do love and work both; my APM isn`t that high. At the time I was just focused on my work.

Enjoy life for a while Flash ^^.

Thx for the translation.
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 11:59:30
January 01 2016 10:29 GMT
#15
Thanks for the translation! Interesting interview. Sad to hear that he continues to be impaired by his hands. As great as it would be to see BW streamed I feel like it would be better for him to pursue something where they can rest more, even if it's streaming games...
deus_073
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Romania187 Posts
January 01 2016 10:39 GMT
#16
thank you!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
January 01 2016 10:59 GMT
#17
Fun interview. Thanks!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 11:27:25
January 01 2016 11:26 GMT
#18
thanks for the interview! happy new year!
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 01 2016 11:33 GMT
#19
Thanks man. When you are free, could you translate iloveoov interview too please?

Thanks again!
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 01 2016 12:05 GMT
#20
On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
"I`m drinking all the alcohol... My capacity of Beer is limitless."

Is Flash the next binjwa?
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 12:24:14
January 01 2016 12:22 GMT
#21
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 12:32:40
January 01 2016 12:32 GMT
#22
Thank you for the translation. I still can't wrap my head around his departure. Hope he enjoys life.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
January 01 2016 12:38 GMT
#23
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.

I think he meant he would need to practice League because it's a team and positional game. You can't just watch vods and be great with 4 other teammates. Meanwhile, he can study the current BW players and read their styles. That way when he does play, he will be able to execute good build orders against them.


"I`m afraid of height. 2 years ago, on the return flight from American tournament, the plain shaked due to turbulence. After that, I do not go overseas that takes more than two hours."

God afraid to fly to close to the heavens lol.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 01 2016 12:38 GMT
#24
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


His BW mechanics are probably still good enough that he only needs to watch VODs to catch up.

I heard he was around Diamond in LoL? Difference between that and pro mechanics-wise is massive
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 01 2016 12:49 GMT
#25
On January 01 2016 19:02 The Intrepid wrote:
Great read!

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 01 2016 12:51 GMT
#26
I really admire broodwar progamers of the past who'd basically cut everything to be the best at the game
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
January 01 2016 13:38 GMT
#27
It would be awesome if he had accepted that playing coach position. Pleasing both his fans and his coaching desires. So sad...
Also why did he skip the fans part lol
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 01 2016 13:52 GMT
#28
Thank you for the translation Thouhastmail !!!
Hellhammer666
Profile Joined December 2015
Estonia1 Post
January 01 2016 13:55 GMT
#29
Damn, even retired, he is still the coolest starcraft 2 player to me. Best of luck to you!!
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_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands675 Posts
January 01 2016 14:04 GMT
#30
On January 01 2016 21:05 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
"I`m drinking all the alcohol... My capacity of Beer is limitless."

Is Flash the next binjwa?


This joke is too good to go unacknowledged. Well played, good sir!
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3344 Posts
January 01 2016 14:58 GMT
#31
Thanks a lot for translating! Happy new year.
I hooe Flash can play in one or two bw tournament
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
January 01 2016 15:01 GMT
#32
On January 01 2016 21:38 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


His BW mechanics are probably still good enough that he only needs to watch VODs to catch up.

I heard he was around Diamond in LoL? Difference between that and pro mechanics-wise is massive

well diamond is the highest rank in LoL i think
or it was when i played
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 01 2016 15:05 GMT
#33
One and half soju bottles? Only?
I am unimpressed, FlaSh. Should have used that time at HSC efficiently.
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1204 Posts
January 01 2016 15:07 GMT
#34
Thanks brah!

Some well deserved time off - enjoy it Flash!
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 01 2016 15:18 GMT
#35
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 01 2016 15:55 GMT
#36
On January 01 2016 17:24 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
this is very lame, just delete it


I was surprised to read this kind of comment from a non-german :o


On topic: nice read, hope flash does well in whatever he wants to do now!
maru G5L pls
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 16:20:54
January 01 2016 16:07 GMT
#37
This is a great interview thanks for the translation.

On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
What are you doing these days?

"Meeting mates that I have not seen for a while. I`m drinking all the alcohol that I could not drunken. I was dry when I was in esport scene; not now, of course. I can drink Soju up to 1 and half bottles. My capacity of Beer is limitless. Love Makgeolli, too."

Are you seeing anyone lately?

"No. I`ve met one or two when I was in esprots but it didn`t last long because I could not reply their texts. I`m not a guy who can do love and work both; my APM isn`t that high. At the time I was just focused on my work.


HAHAHAHHAHA I love him so much. I hope he comes to a foreign event this year and I can drink with him but it fear of flying makes that hard.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 01 2016 16:45 GMT
#38
On January 02 2016 00:01 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:38 Inflicted wrote:
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


His BW mechanics are probably still good enough that he only needs to watch VODs to catch up.

I heard he was around Diamond in LoL? Difference between that and pro mechanics-wise is massive

well diamond is the highest rank in LoL i think
or it was when i played


It goes Diamond - Master - Challenger (top 200, similar to GM in sc2)
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 01 2016 16:55 GMT
#39
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW

This is wrong.



Good interview, i hope Flash does what he really wants to do next and he doesn't feel the pressure from fans who want very "specific" things.
I think he deserves it, no need to "envy JD" Flash, you can do it now too!
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 01 2016 16:58 GMT
#40
thanks, i hope he's gonna go big with his restaurant
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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KrOeastbound
Profile Joined August 2015
England59 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 17:21:02
January 01 2016 17:15 GMT
#41
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW


Different skill sets. LoL has more to learn in regards to game mechanics, different champion interactions, team based strategy and co-ordination but doesn't need the same requirements in multitasking and general APM compared to BW or Sc2. One could argue that getting to the top in LoL is harder than either game however due to the larger playerbase and competition in LoL, but I wouldn't like to say for sure.


purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
January 01 2016 17:16 GMT
#42
On January 02 2016 01:58 Makro wrote:
thanks, i hope he's gonna go big with his restaurant


1 man kitchen. Flash multitasking everything efficiently.
T P Z sagi
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
January 01 2016 17:21 GMT
#43
Thank you for the translation!

"My APM isn't that high", heh.
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 17:49:28
January 01 2016 17:41 GMT
#44
On January 02 2016 01:58 Makro wrote:
thanks, i hope he's gonna go big with his restaurant


Well, his father runs a sizable company, and his brother is a doctor. Maybe Flash can take over his father`s business.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
January 01 2016 17:42 GMT
#45
There is something about flash's mentality that just sets him apart from other gamers. Hes such a winner. It is going to be interesting to see what hes going to do after progaming.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
January 01 2016 19:43 GMT
#46
Flash seems like a cool guy, he is funny. Infinite amount of beer and APM haha. I liked this interview, thanks

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On January 01 2016 17:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:24 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
"I'm sorry for being late, but it`s New Year's Day; I have rights to enjoy it."

this is very lame, just delete it


Am I living in an age which self-excusing is not allowed?

O tempora! O mores!

there was nothing wrong with that. I prefer modest people as well.
agentzimp
TL+ Member
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 01 2016 20:25 GMT
#47
I'm surprised he didn't go on a vacation after spending his teenage years as a progamer with no freedom. Nice interview
rip passion
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 01 2016 21:01 GMT
#48
Fun interview

It's unfortunate he's still experiencing arm troubles
Liquipedia
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
January 01 2016 21:04 GMT
#49
On January 02 2016 06:01 prech wrote:
Fun interview

It's unfortunate he's still experiencing arm troubles

his perfomance started to decline right after his surgery. still, he was the best in KT ;P
alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
January 01 2016 21:46 GMT
#50
Beerpong match Flash vs JD plz
Die Trying
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 01 2016 22:46 GMT
#51
On January 02 2016 06:46 alukarD wrote:
Beerpong match Flash vs JD plz

omfg yes please, that would be AMAZING
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
January 02 2016 02:10 GMT
#52
What's "tin makeup?"
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
January 02 2016 03:00 GMT
#53
Lol sounds like Alexander after taking over the world, don't drink too much Flash. Great interview!
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
January 02 2016 03:40 GMT
#54
On January 01 2016 17:24 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
"I'm sorry for being late, but it`s New Year's Day; I have rights to enjoy it."

this is very lame, just delete it


How about you learn Korean instead....

You're entitled to nothing from anyone else.

Good for him for taking care of himself first instead of listening to whiners.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-02 06:39:13
January 02 2016 05:23 GMT
#55
On January 02 2016 11:10 zealotstim wrote:
What's "tin makeup?"


a light makeup that makes your skin look brighter.

"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 02 2016 05:29 GMT
#56
On January 02 2016 02:16 purakushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 01:58 Makro wrote:
thanks, i hope he's gonna go big with his restaurant


1 man kitchen. Flash multitasking everything efficiently.


cooking easy. Just timing and micro
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
January 02 2016 07:37 GMT
#57
Thanks so much for the translation. Man I hope flash opens a chain of Starcraft-themed restaurants.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 02 2016 08:16 GMT
#58
Thanks for the translation man, happy new year!
Can't wait to see him play BW again
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 02 2016 08:51 GMT
#59
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW


Definitely disagree. I was diamond in LoL before I pretty much stopped playing. I was near the top of masters in SC2. The hardest things to do in LoL is pretty much done on a consistent basis in SC2. The only thing harder in LoL is the teamwork aspect of the game (getting your team in sync, which can be pretty hard in solo queue) and that you need to frequently keep up with the meta because Riot changes the game and releases new champions pretty often. I don't even think LoL is that strategic either, most of the time the right decision to make is pretty clear, it's just getting your team to move as one unit.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
January 02 2016 09:31 GMT
#60
no1 earner in bw? does that also include sponsorships and such? if so i would like to see how he compared to boxer/nada/yellow
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 02 2016 11:06 GMT
#61
On January 01 2016 21:05 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
"I`m drinking all the alcohol... My capacity of Beer is limitless."

Is Flash the next binjwa?

Hahahaha, so good!!! :D
actually, after the first five questions I thought this was April fools... Or new year fools day - old Korean tradition from Victorian times...
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
January 02 2016 11:19 GMT
#62
On January 02 2016 02:15 KrOeastbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW


Different skill sets. LoL has more to learn in regards to game mechanics, different champion interactions, team based strategy and co-ordination but doesn't need the same requirements in multitasking and general APM compared to BW or Sc2. One could argue that getting to the top in LoL is harder than either game however due to the larger playerbase and competition in LoL, but I wouldn't like to say for sure.




Your argument for LoL being harder would work if the foreigners are in the level of Koreans neck to neck. Otherwise it's still Koreans competing against Koreans for Top place like in BW.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-02 12:23:17
January 02 2016 12:19 GMT
#63
On January 02 2016 20:06 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:05 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
"I`m drinking all the alcohol... My capacity of Beer is limitless."

Is Flash the next binjwa?

Hahahaha, so good!!! :D
actually, after the first five questions I thought this was April fools... Or new year fools day - old Korean tradition from Victorian times...


I`m not saying that self-excuse is an old Korean tradition. Rather, it`s a common courtesy regardless of the nation.

I mentioned Victorian times because it`s a byword for the age of courtesy.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 02 2016 12:20 GMT
#64
pretty good interview, thanks for the translation
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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
January 02 2016 12:35 GMT
#65
Thank you very much! A Good read! I'd love to know even more...
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 02 2016 12:43 GMT
#66
I am sorry, I was just fooling around and didn't mean to offend. Thanks a lot for the translation. I greatly appreciate it.
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-02 20:14:23
January 02 2016 20:14 GMT
#67
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 02 2016 21:02 GMT
#68
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 02 2016 22:26 GMT
#69
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2016 23:32 GMT
#70
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 03 2016 00:36 GMT
#71
On January 03 2016 08:32 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.

oh ok, thanks! Sounds like quite the game, must watch now lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 03 2016 00:52 GMT
#72
Great interview, Flash keeps his sense of humor during all of it haha

I'm looking forward to finding out whatever his next steps are, be it playing BW, opening a restaurant or doing whatever else he wants to do.


It is known that you`ve earned quite a lot.

"No.1 in BW. I think I can afford my marriage, house and future business (he said restraurant for instance.) without my parent`s help.

Baller
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
January 03 2016 03:47 GMT
#73
On January 02 2016 20:19 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 02:15 KrOeastbound wrote:
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW


Different skill sets. LoL has more to learn in regards to game mechanics, different champion interactions, team based strategy and co-ordination but doesn't need the same requirements in multitasking and general APM compared to BW or Sc2. One could argue that getting to the top in LoL is harder than either game however due to the larger playerbase and competition in LoL, but I wouldn't like to say for sure.




Your argument for LoL being harder would work if the foreigners are in the level of Koreans neck to neck. Otherwise it's still Koreans competing against Koreans for Top place like in BW.



Good moba players play dota tho
Have a nice day ;)
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
January 03 2016 03:55 GMT
#74
It is always sad to hear that a famous Broodwar player is retiring, especially a player of FlaSh's caliber. It reminds me that life moves on, and that nothing is forever.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 03 2016 05:18 GMT
#75
On January 03 2016 08:32 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.


I would call it one of the seminal games: Games that may not be known to be exciting, but induces a change in the meta. Similar to that, the Bisu vs Savior series were seminal as well.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 03 2016 10:25 GMT
#76
What Flash didn't say was that the persons vods he's watching is his own.

Why would he need to watch anyone elses? He's perfection already.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
January 03 2016 13:41 GMT
#77
On January 03 2016 19:25 Qikz wrote:
What Flash didn't say was that the persons vods he's watching is his own.

Why would he need to watch anyone elses? He's perfection already.

Probably Light in TvZ or Sea in TvP
Thanks for the interview
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
January 03 2016 13:54 GMT
#78
Nice short interview!
Thanks for the translation.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 03 2016 15:31 GMT
#79
I remember the rage in the LR-thread when Flash did that ovie snipe against JD. He "ruined christmas". :D Good times.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 03 2016 16:23 GMT
#80
On January 03 2016 14:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 08:32 darktreb wrote:
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.


I would call it one of the seminal games: Games that may not be known to be exciting, but induces a change in the meta. Similar to that, the Bisu vs Savior series were seminal as well.

It's a game that's exciting at the time, and people watching it will feel it's going to change things, but that watching in retrospect needs context to understand why it's so cool.

Brood War is lucky to have had many seminal moments pretty much every year of its professional play, and several more close to seminal moments (like upMagic's m&m vs Protoss, which only ever worked for him, or Hive tech ZvZ which was only understood by a very small number of top zergs). Mech vs Zerg, and then Zerg's broodling response months later. Those kinds of things made SC so fun to follow.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18339 Posts
January 03 2016 17:08 GMT
#81
On January 04 2016 00:31 Holgerius wrote:
I remember the rage in the LR-thread when Flash did that ovie snipe against JD. He "ruined christmas". :D Good times.


why did you disappear from the football thread? :o
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
January 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#82
Thanks for the translation! Thanks flash for the memories
Long live BroodWar!
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
January 04 2016 23:16 GMT
#83
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
January 05 2016 00:30 GMT
#84
That was a great interview
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
January 05 2016 01:37 GMT
#85
I remember that 2009 EVER OSL series between Flash and Jaedong.
Flash made Jaedong look like a noob in that game in Fighting Spirit.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49891 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 02:32:15
January 05 2016 02:31 GMT
#86
On January 05 2016 10:37 don_kyuhote wrote:
I remember that 2009 EVER OSL series between Flash and Jaedong.
Flash made Jaedong look like a noob in that game in Fighting Spirit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/34843_Flash_vs_Jaedong/vod
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
January 05 2016 22:04 GMT
#87
"my APM isn`t that high."

lolwut?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
January 05 2016 22:34 GMT
#88
Thanks for this!
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
January 05 2016 22:46 GMT
#89
On January 06 2016 07:04 ensign_lee wrote:
"my APM isn`t that high."

lolwut?


It's average for pro gamers
Maybe even below average
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 05 2016 23:55 GMT
#90
On January 05 2016 08:16 RouaF wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPhMpVAIqO4


Awesome interview. I can't wait till he streams. I don't care what it is. I just want to see more Flash!
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kka34629095
Profile Joined November 2015
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-07 08:06:13
January 07 2016 08:01 GMT
#91
On January 02 2016 12:40 ShambhalaWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:24 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
"I'm sorry for being late, but it`s New Year's Day; I have rights to enjoy it."

this is very lame, just delete it


How about you learn Korean instead....

You're entitled to nothing from anyone else.

Good for him for taking care of himself first instead of listening to whiners.


haha, yet this wasn't "whining" or "german" elitism, but the voice of reticent passive-aggressive urge,a form of public tone policing
Viktor.E
Profile Joined January 2016
Estonia3 Posts
January 07 2016 11:29 GMT
#92
cant wait the legend flash!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 07 2016 20:14 GMT
#93
On January 06 2016 07:46 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 07:04 ensign_lee wrote:
"my APM isn`t that high."

lolwut?


It's average for pro gamers
Maybe even below average


But his EPM. I remember being kind sureeal
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January 07 2016 21:07 GMT
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he doesnt need to waste his energy playing faster to beat noobs, he's that good
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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