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Braavos36379 Posts
On January 21 2007 16:51 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 16:47 IdrA wrote:On January 21 2007 16:41 EscPlan9 wrote:On January 21 2007 16:35 decafchicken wrote:On January 21 2007 16:31 jeddus wrote:
If I was a BGHer, I would take this seriously, and I would also have a lot of pride in my victories.
Too many of us live vicariously through the top players of this game and assume we could beat anyone who plays it differently than we do.
I hope many TLers choke and die on the humble pie we just got served and the rest use the experience to grow and get better at the game. I guess you missed the part about "friendly showmatch" No matter how many times people say "just a showmatch" it will not be perceived in that way. It will be perceived as BGHers are better than TL.net and this was a competition between the two sites. uh... no we woulda sent out our top players if it was that kind of competition. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but did you read what I wrote? No matter how you try to phrase it, this will be PERCEIVED as a competition between the two sites by many people.
yes, the thousands of viewers and fans eagerly awaiting the results and listening to the live reports will perceive it as a competition 
yes, im sure many of the small BGHers community see it as a competition, but i think all the posters here at TL realize that it was more of a friendly thing
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I cut myself several times for bringing shame upon TL.net. My arm is still bleeding. May I stop now Manifesto? Please?
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On January 21 2007 17:42 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
I cut myself several times for bringing shame upon TL.net. My arm is still bleeding. May I stop now Manifesto? Please?
down the road, not accross the street.
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
On January 21 2007 17:46 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 17:42 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
I cut myself several times for bringing shame upon TL.net. My arm is still bleeding. May I stop now Manifesto? Please? down the road, not accross the street.
across the jugular, not down the road
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Hi all,
I'm sorry my last news post on bghers.com might have given you the impression that somehow this wasnt a friendly showmatch. It was. In fact, I feared that I might have overdone it a bit, because I did not want to leave any chance of straying away from the original concept and spirit from which the showmatch was first conceived.
I felt that, after all the emotional suppression I had done on the bghers, to keep everyone focused on sticking by the rules, that perhaps, I was warranted a small pep talk to get our guys excited and pumped up. Anyway, I wouldve responded to this sooner had I not been so occupied by the showmatch itself.
I know people are waiting for the rep pack, it is ready. It will be posted along with the news on http://bghers.com, when I get the report from my admin.
Those who signed up on the check-in form will get some advance notice as your reward!
--borg (fwiffo)
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Anyone know how Testie did in his bo7s or whatever?
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 21 2007 18:07 Oxygen wrote:
Anyone know how Testie did in his bo7s or whatever?
read the past few pages.
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Austin10833 Posts
On January 21 2007 18:07 Oxygen wrote:
Anyone know how Testie did in his bo7s or whatever?
There's a whole thread dedicated to it here
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yes, the thousands of viewers and fans eagerly awaiting the results and listening to the live reports will perceive it as a competition
Yeah, I didn't see many TL-netters asking for replays and discussing the results of the competition...
Sarcasm aside, it's obvious many TL-netters paid close attention to what happened here. This truly did not feel like a friendly showmatch, no matter how it was phrased or who phrased it. Yes, rationally it makes sense that these are friendly showmatches because of reasons X Y Z, but that's not how many players will feel about the competition. That's my point - not that these weren't friendly showmatches, since rationally they were, but that they didn't feel like friendly showmatches.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Can we drop it now? if we are all in agreement about the intent of these matches then theres no need for all the back chat between bghers and the "rest of us" 
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Braavos36379 Posts
On January 21 2007 18:25 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +yes, the thousands of viewers and fans eagerly awaiting the results and listening to the live reports will perceive it as a competition Yeah, I didn't see many TL-netters asking for replays and discussing the results of the competition... Sarcasm aside, it's obvious many TL-netters paid close attention to what happened here. This truly did not feel like a friendly showmatch, no matter how it was phrased or who phrased it. Yes, rationally it makes sense that these are friendly showmatches because of reasons X Y Z, but that's not how many players will feel about the competition. That's my point - not that these weren't friendly showmatches, since rationally they were, but that they didn't feel like friendly showmatches.
i didn't say nobody at TL was paying attention to this. in fact, i agree with you, lots of TL.netters were paying attention, but i disagree that they all (the TL.netters) viewed it as a serious competition.
you might have thought they didn't "feel" like a friendly showmatch, and many BGHers will agree with you, but not everyone here (TL.net) shares the same opinion. i think most of the TL.netters saw it as what it was labeled.
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Rest assured almost no BGHer (cant say all cuz there are always dumbasses) thinks the results of this showmatch mean anything.
Anyways, the news + replays will be up within minutes at bghers.com.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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apparently me, everyone, and their mother is trying to dl the replay pack -_-
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
out of respect for BGHers website and the staff, I'm going to refrain from rehosting the replay pack elsewhere, even though the site is lagging madly at the moment.
edit: the darn spoiler tag refuses to open --;;
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No, go ahead and host it elsewhere.
Although the rep packs werent hosted at bghers.com (to prevent lag/slow dls).
I'm having trouble with the spoiler tag too. fwiffo said its cuz too many people are trying to open it at the same time or something. It just randomly opens at times though haha. Just keep trying I guess!
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the replay pack is also hosted at rapidshare now.
just come over to the site and read the report that loki worked so hard at and look for the links at the bottom of the news post 
http://bghers.com/e107/news.php
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I'm not going to put up with this broken spoiler tag nonsense... I've reloaded the page at least 10 times to no avail.
Okay i've taken the contents of the spoiler from the page source. I got rid of the html tags, so I'm posting it here. If a BGHers admin has a problem with this, please pm me and I will remove it.
RESULTS
+ Show Spoiler +
The much anticipated showmatch between the regular forum members of Star Fleet (BGHers.com) and the Romulans (TeamLiquid.net) has concluded. So who won? Read on....
The event started with the players and would be observers starting to log in roughly an hour before the start of the showmatch. There were a lot of questions, a lot of opinions, a lot of ideas being thrown about, and most importantly, a shit load of people, which made me feel overwhelmed by the prospect of organizing a 20 player strong event. However, I had the gallant and ever dependable fwiffo at my side, and we commenced the matches.
The BGH games kicked off first. The ten players from each side were divided into two teams of two participants each, and another two three man strong. All four teams then partook in bo3 team games on BGH. The BGH games were followed by six one on one bo1s, and two 2on2 bo3s.
So who won? I have tabulated all the results neatly - under a spoiler tag. The true Star Fleet warriors amongst you will ignore it and head directly to the replay section, while the hermaphrodite Romulan pussies will click it to reveal the scores right away! (Please note that officially all the 1on1 low money games were bo1s, any further games played do -not- contribute to the final result)
RESULTS
(SPOILER)
THE BGH GAMES
Surado / Austria VS CoralReefer / MrSpliffy 2-0
npnl.fedor / the6357[dark] VS Cubedin[sob] / chiflutz 2-0
3ON3:
Player / Prince / Tarzan[Craft] VS Hnr)Insane / BlueLaguna / Bill307 2-0
X-MeN-RaiN / Pickle / MyM.Ash VS CaucasianAsian / sMi.Breeze / alleyn 2-1
THE LOW MONEY GAMES
the6357[dark] VS Hnr)Insane 2-1 (dark wins first game)
MyM.Ash VS BlueLaguna 0-1
X-MeN-RaiN VS rel[sr] (sacajewa on TL.net) 2-1 (RaiN wins first game)
X-MeN-Pickle VS alleyn 2-0
Surado- VS Bill307 3-1 (Surado wins first game)
npnl.fedor VS sMi.Breeze 1-0
2ON2:
Prince[Craft] / Austria VS CoralReefer / MrSpliffy 2-1
Player[Craft] / Tarzan[Craft] VS Cubedin[sob] / chiflutz 2-0
CUMULATIVE SCORE: 11-1 (18-3)
CUMULATIVE UNOFFICIAL SCORE: 11-1 (23-5)
I hope this was a fun event for everyone, and that we are able to arrange similar showmatches in the future. We have pushed the evil Romulans out of the Neutral Zone, but they regroup as we speak!
fwiffo's note:Thank you all for using the replay uploader and the check-in form. It made my life a lot easier and both programs will be improved thanks to the numerous feedback I got.
Replay Pack
http://www.princeton.edu/~hmurakam/TeamLiquid/BGHers TL.net replays.zip
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