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Braavos36402 Posts
On January 21 2007 13:41 Aphelion02 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 13:23 intrigue wrote:
Game 2: You didn't say ANYTHING about changing race. If you wanted to, we would 100% let you change your race. Do not lie and say we were "uptight" about it, you never asked us to remake.
i meant that you guys took insult easily to the things we said in the game lobby, so we didn't bother asking and played it. my team found you guys humorless, dry, and overly serious, and we ended up whispering 'wtf why are they all so pissy' to each other a few times. i know it's our fault, i'm not trying to blame anyone, we should have asked for a re but whatever. we thought we could make do with the positions and come up with a strategy on the spot, but since none of us play bgh regularly or at a high level, we couldn't anticipate T being THAT weak. i don't care enough about a game to lie about it on a public forum, so please calm the fuck down, nobody's out to get you. They're a smaller community and this showmatch means more to them than it is to us. That is to be expected, and explains both their attitude, and perhaps, the results.
while this is true, i still think the TL representatives had an idea that they were going to be playing some strong teams. hopefully if there's a second showmatch all our "big guns" can play, and we can field 3v3 teams like testie/midian/FA versus that hDn clan or whatever
i mean, i was talking to locked and hes right, it was kind of unrealistic to expect decisive wins on BGH, close games and narrow wins could happen for TL if stuff worked out our way, but really when a community generally plays a lot of teamgames and another community plays 1v1s, we all know what's going to happen.
hopefully the 1v1s come out in TL favor
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Yeah we played Player[Craft] + Tarzan[Craft] + otherguyfromcraft
Edit: Decaf I owe you an apology. I am sorry for accusing you of cheating -_-;;. I forgot that when we watch the replay on Ride of Valkyries, we end up in the observers' spots first because there are more Observers than Players on that map.
Decaf did nothing wrong and I am a big poopoo head. That is all.
Also, DECAFCHICKEN YOU FUCKING CHEATER WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO HELP ME IN MY GAME VS SURADO?! Surado pointed out that someone pinged me when he was dropping my main. I saw the replay, checked it with BWChart, and you were the only observer who was pinging the minimap. Decaf, what the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? Why the hell would you do that?
(in the end it turns out it didn't matter because I didn't notice his pings the two times he did it, but it's still an attempt at cheating)
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United States37500 Posts
On January 21 2007 13:53 Bill307 wrote:
Yeah we played Player[Craft] + Tarzan[Craft] + otherguyfromcraft
Also, DECAFCHICKEN YOU FUCKING CHEATER WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO HELP ME IN MY GAME VS SURADO?! Surado pointed out that someone pinged me when he was dropping my main. I saw the replay, checked it with BWChart, and you were the only observer who was pinging the minimap. Decaf, what the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? Why the hell would you do that?
(in the end it turns out it didn't matter because I didn't notice his pings the two times he did it, but it's still an attempt at cheating)
PM decaf then. Why are you posting this openly. >_>
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On January 21 2007 13:53 Bill307 wrote:
Yeah we played Player[Craft] + Tarzan[Craft] + otherguyfromcraft
Also, DECAFCHICKEN YOU FUCKING CHEATER WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO HELP ME IN MY GAME VS SURADO?! Surado pointed out that someone pinged me when he was dropping my main. I saw the replay, checked it with BWChart, and you were the only observer who was pinging the minimap. Decaf, what the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? Why the hell would you do that?
(in the end it turns out it didn't matter because I didn't notice his pings the two times he did it, but it's still an attempt at cheating)
Do replays show all pings in game or only ones you can see? Maybe he didn't realize he was pinging you and just was pinging for the other obs
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Osaka27180 Posts
On January 21 2007 13:55 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 13:53 Bill307 wrote:
Yeah we played Player[Craft] + Tarzan[Craft] + otherguyfromcraft
Also, DECAFCHICKEN YOU FUCKING CHEATER WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO HELP ME IN MY GAME VS SURADO?! Surado pointed out that someone pinged me when he was dropping my main. I saw the replay, checked it with BWChart, and you were the only observer who was pinging the minimap. Decaf, what the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? Why the hell would you do that?
(in the end it turns out it didn't matter because I didn't notice his pings the two times he did it, but it's still an attempt at cheating) PM decaf then. Why are you posting this openly. >_>
Because decaf has a history of being bm and gay in games?
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Replays only show the pings that you can see, I believe. I was in the player 1 spot on RoV, so if you watch the replay as the 1st player then you will see all the pings that I would have seen, I believe.
Maybe I'm wrong about this in which case I'll feel even stupider -_-.
I could only see those pings if decaf had allied me. But no one was chatting during the game so either he allied me and forgot about it and never talked during the game (why would you ally the players when you're an observer though?), or he allied me temporarily just to send me those pings.
Lastly I'm posting this here because I am really pissed off that someone would try to cheat in a game. Decaf had better have a good explanation for this.
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kill, china no shit sherlock. Way to state the obvious. I mock you - do yourself a favor and gtfo. Community would be a lot better without your kind.
If there is a next time... don't use Idra, Midian, etc. We know how that would turn out. I'm talking about the players who have been here for +4 years and you are fairly good, but not THAT well-known. It would have been MORE fun for those participating.
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If he allied himself with everybody and then forgot about it then you could just chalk it up to honest mistakes, but from what Mani's saying it might not be so simple.
Anywho, I'm sorry we got creamed in our 2v2s tonight. It's mostly my fault and I have to work on a lot of things in my game. And, no, Cube, you didn't piss me off by yelling 'ffs' that much. :p
However, they were pretty good games, the [Craft] clan has some really strong and mannered players, kudos to them.
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He's saying it openly because the replays will be released to the public and some people are bound to notice the pinging. If he waited until then, it *might* be misconstrued that he was "coming out" only because he had been exposed. Also, its just honest.
Surado showed me that rep just a while ago. He said there were a total of three mini map pings, but I missed the last one. The first two pings weren't helpful at all though, very benign (unless I totally mis-saw where they were haha cuz rep was at 16x) so it was probably decaf misclicking or just fooling around or whatever.
We weren't really going to mention this because we didnt want to spoil the showmatch, which is why Surado was kind enough to speak to bill in person (I think).
EDIT: Oh so it seems the third ping was pretty helpful. Hmmm.
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On January 21 2007 13:58 DarK]N[exuS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 13:53 Bill307 wrote:
Yeah we played Player[Craft] + Tarzan[Craft] + otherguyfromcraft
Also, DECAFCHICKEN YOU FUCKING CHEATER WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO HELP ME IN MY GAME VS SURADO?! Surado pointed out that someone pinged me when he was dropping my main. I saw the replay, checked it with BWChart, and you were the only observer who was pinging the minimap. Decaf, what the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? Why the hell would you do that?
(in the end it turns out it didn't matter because I didn't notice his pings the two times he did it, but it's still an attempt at cheating) Do replays show all pings in game or only ones you can see? Maybe he didn't realize he was pinging you and just was pinging for the other obs
Replays show all pings, as you by default have vision of all. I'm not sure if taking obs vision off in the replay will prevent obs-only pings from showing. You can tell definitively who saw it by checking the ally code of Decaf in BWChart to see who he was allied to before the ping.
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Osaka27180 Posts
Hey Sun, considering you are so OLD SCHOOL, all the way from late 2004 (WOW), maybe you should help contribute to make things better rather than bitching about the way things are done by people who try to make things better.
The people that played were the people who are active in this site on a regular basis, and who vollunteered. I didnt see you stepping up instead of these "hasus". If you dont like it, this "comunity would be a lot better off without OUR kind".
Seriously, get fucking bent. Did the BGHers take this way too seriously, sounds like it at the end, but it is people with your attitude who are the real poison. Also, Nexus, please get out of this thread because you are only going to end up trolling it into the closed section.
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United States37500 Posts
On January 21 2007 14:13 Bill307 wrote:OH FUCK ME! WHEN YOU WATCH THE REP YOU ARE SEEING TEH OBSERVERS BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE OBSERVER SPOTS THAN PLAYER SPOTS IN THE MAP! FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK sorry decaf  .
word... like I said, instead of publically calling someone a cheater, PM first. >_>
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Korea (South)1740 Posts
congrats bghers!
thanks TLN reps for playing for our community :-)
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Braavos36402 Posts
how many wins did we get on bgh? even if some of the series went 1-2, thats still not a bad showing all things considered
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On January 21 2007 14:14 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 14:13 Bill307 wrote:OH FUCK ME! WHEN YOU WATCH THE REP YOU ARE SEEING TEH OBSERVERS BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE OBSERVER SPOTS THAN PLAYER SPOTS IN THE MAP! FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK sorry decaf . word... like I said, instead of publically calling someone a cheater, PM first. >_>
Yeah I should have done that first. My bad. I was just really pissed off at the thought that someone was trying to cheat -_-. I should have forced myself not to say or do anything until I talked to decaf first. Sorry . I'll try not to do this again in the future -_-.
Also I need to stop swearing =P.
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Hey guys, Thanks for the great games, manner, skills and respect given to each other. ^^ It made a great showmatch (though at start there were ALOT of confusion  ) I give props to alot of Op Tl-West people, who I've gotten close by playing TMM and RW's ^^ Really FUN! I hope that Bill's BGH TMM will be done so I can introduce to the BGHers. Anyways, Overall it was a AWESOME showmatch, hope to have it again. And hey, hope you guys become BGH addicts. Thanks again.
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