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On January 21 2007 13:00 Blind wrote:
I play both BGH and low-money maps and it's extremely hard to beat a good 2v2 or 3v3 BGH team if you're a low-money map player. I think our main weakness was that we picked three random players from TL.net who have never played together and matched them against three BGHers who have played together many times before. So, they had much better teamwork, which is important in any map, but more so for BGH. BGHers usually play team games as well, while TLers usually 1v1. This is just a generalization though.
If I was mistaken in assuming that the BGHers play together many times before this showmatch, sorry.
edit: Should also say that race matters a lot. Toss is way too strong in BGH and if they pick PPP and you don't, you're already at a disadvantage.
I (x-men-rain) have not played with mym.ash before and the last time pickle and I played together was around August of last year, since we got into a little feud thing that has now been resolved 
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What can you expect when you make 2 communities battle each other out, where 1 community thinks they are superior to the other in general, and the other community wants to show they are not inferior? This was bound to turn out into more competition than friendly show match, and some flaming going on too.
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So the one 1v1 fun game I played I was losing but had to leave. He would have won anyway, I don't think I stood much of a chance 
Anyway, this whole thing's pretty fun. It's nice seeing everyone in bghers and tl-west looking for games.
Looking forward to testie vs. koolam!
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On January 21 2007 13:02 DarK]N[exuS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2007 13:00 Blind wrote:
I play both BGH and low-money maps and it's extremely hard to beat a good 2v2 or 3v3 BGH team if you're a low-money map player. I think our main weakness was that we picked three random players from TL.net who have never played together and matched them against three BGHers who have played together many times before. So, they had much better teamwork, which is important in any map, but more so for BGH. BGHers usually play team games as well, while TLers usually 1v1. This is just a generalization though.
If I was mistaken in assuming that the BGHers play together many times before this showmatch, sorry.
edit: Should also say that race matters a lot. Toss is way too strong in BGH and if they pick PPP and you don't, you're already at a disadvantage. I (x-men-rain) have not played with mym.ash before and the last time pickle and I played together was around August of last year, since we got into a little feud thing that has now been resolved Ah, ok. I guess some of us were just out-skilled.
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if this comes off well the sites should have another event with the 2 community's best players, decided by vote or something. the low games would prob be mostly one sided but the bgh games would be alot more fun.
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Yes Idra, but some good tl.net-ers can't be bothered to play such lousy maps as BGH. Or at least that's the impression that some of the replys here gave me.
Anyway it was fun to play. Tho I think I pissed off chiflutz for yelling at him in all the games and going "ffs" a lot.
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That's what I do too, it's going to be embarrassing if the replay has text on it....lol
At least Pickle is used to it 
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
Game 2: You didn't say ANYTHING about changing race. If you wanted to, we would 100% let you change your race. Do not lie and say we were "uptight" about it, you never asked us to remake.
i meant that you guys took insult easily to the things we said in the game lobby, so we didn't bother asking and played it. my team found you guys humorless, dry, and overly serious, and we ended up whispering 'wtf why are they all so pissy' to each other a few times.
i know it's our fault, i'm not trying to blame anyone, we should have asked for a re but whatever. we thought we could make do with the positions and come up with a strategy on the spot, but since none of us play bgh regularly or at a high level, we couldn't anticipate T being THAT weak. i don't care enough about a game to lie about it on a public forum, so please calm the fuck down, nobody's out to get you.
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I think a showmatch between the two sites best players (ie idras idea) would be pretty cool, although I dont think the bghers would win that overall.
And I think top tl.net players might be able to make time for it since this isnt a league or a tourney or something, its a showmatch and they'll have to play only 2-4 matches.
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2v2 team lost 1-2 on low maps T_T
ggs to austria, prince, and mrspliffy
i'd really like to be in the inevitable rematch (before i'm banned)
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Like someone else said... I know these matches were just done "for fun" and all, but there definitely is more involved in them. It saddens me to see TL.net get so thoroughly dominated by the bgh'ers.
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Well the fact is this:
Less people on BGHers.com
More people on TL.net
We both picked from average fourm posters. Since TL.net is much larger the average players will have a much varied skill pool then from BGHers.com
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
there's no shame in losing to better players. those definitely were at the top of the bghers community (nothing against them is implied here), and we just sent out tl regulars =)
still, disappointed at the outcomes. i suck! blahhh sorry guys
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On January 21 2007 13:23 intrigue wrote:Show nested quote +
Game 2: You didn't say ANYTHING about changing race. If you wanted to, we would 100% let you change your race. Do not lie and say we were "uptight" about it, you never asked us to remake.
i meant that you guys took insult easily to the things we said in the game lobby, so we didn't bother asking and played it. my team found you guys humorless, dry, and overly serious, and we ended up whispering 'wtf why are they all so pissy' to each other a few times. i know it's our fault, i'm not trying to blame anyone, we should have asked for a re but whatever. we thought we could make do with the positions and come up with a strategy on the spot, but since none of us play bgh regularly or at a high level, we couldn't anticipate T being THAT weak. i don't care enough about a game to lie about it on a public forum, so please calm the fuck down, nobody's out to get you.
You see, you are already accusing me of getting worked up or something. I am not worked up, I promise you . And you really should have asked, because we are nice people and definitely wouldn't have minded letting you switch
And we weren't rude, I just said "please don't be rude" when we said "MYM.ash is coming" and you replied "LOLOLOLOLOLOL"
Anyways, let's just relax it.
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True dat. Not disputing it. Excuses for the losses, but valid excuses.
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Don't watch my 1v1 low-money game. It sucks -_-. I made some very stupid decisions. And Surado is easily better than most people on this forum. Don't know how he'd stack up against our better players.
I knew the 3v3 players would be at least pretty good. Turns out the team we faced was very good at PPPvsPPP on BGH. I don't know how they'd fare in a longer game, but early game it almost felt like playing 3 Testies =P. I wouldn't be surprised if they could outplay us in a longer game, either. And I'm definitely no longer surprised when I hear that teams like Testie/Fayth/xxx lost to players like them on BGH.
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Braavos36370 Posts
anyone have an overall score?
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On January 21 2007 13:23 intrigue wrote:Show nested quote +
Game 2: You didn't say ANYTHING about changing race. If you wanted to, we would 100% let you change your race. Do not lie and say we were "uptight" about it, you never asked us to remake.
i meant that you guys took insult easily to the things we said in the game lobby, so we didn't bother asking and played it. my team found you guys humorless, dry, and overly serious, and we ended up whispering 'wtf why are they all so pissy' to each other a few times. i know it's our fault, i'm not trying to blame anyone, we should have asked for a re but whatever. we thought we could make do with the positions and come up with a strategy on the spot, but since none of us play bgh regularly or at a high level, we couldn't anticipate T being THAT weak. i don't care enough about a game to lie about it on a public forum, so please calm the fuck down, nobody's out to get you.
They're a smaller community and this showmatch means more to them than it is to us. That is to be expected, and explains both their attitude, and perhaps, the results.
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Bill307 = You guys played the [craft] clan right? They're one of the top bgh clans around, just a notch below hDn.
HoT_Bid = I'm trying to get fwiffo to put all the reps together, and *hopefully* we'll release everything within a few hours.
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On January 21 2007 13:00 Blind wrote:
I play both BGH and low-money maps and it's extremely hard to beat a good 2v2 or 3v3 BGH team if you're a low-money map player. I think our main weakness was that we picked three random players from TL.net who have never played together and matched them against three BGHers who have played together many times before. So, they had much better teamwork, which is important in any map, but more so for BGH. BGHers usually play team games as well, while TLers usually 1v1. This is just a generalization though.
If I was mistaken in assuming that the BGHers play together many times before this showmatch, sorry.
um. me and rain havent played together in like 5 months.. and me and rain have never teamed with mym.ash before... so as far as the team situation goes, we were in the same boat as you.
edit: Should also say that race matters a lot. Toss is way too strong in BGH and if they pick PPP and you don't, you're already at a disadvantage.
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