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lemmata
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Last Edited: 2015-05-02 03:01:49
May 02 2015 02:55 GMT
#1
Because I really didn't feel like working another 12 hour day... Here are some of Sonic's recent YouTube uploads. They must be videos from his early years. The resolution is super low and the strategies are not for high level games. However, they are hilarious. They made me chuckle anyways...

A rough description of each "strategy" is in the spoilers before the YouTube embeds.

"Troll Zealots"
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Build forge and cannons. Lull opponent into false sense of security by making the cannons fire on your own nexus. Build hidden forward gateways. Pretend to be a girl. Pull all probes and go.



"The Field of Drones"
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Pretend to mine gas for ling speed. Get burrow instead and build only drones. Bait opponent into rushing. Pull all drones at the right time and burrow them near the natural. Ambush enemy marines. Lose but pretend that you won and laugh like a mad man.



"Troll Terran"
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Lift the command center immediately after the game begins and move to your opponent's natural. Use a chatting rush to deceive your opponent into thinking that you moved to an island base. Pull all your SCVs and march your marines into your opponent's unprepared base.



"Gassy Grandma"
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Block the ramp to your main with two drones. Get gas. Get burrow and destroy your own extractor. Get zerglings and burrow them below an overlord so that they are hidden. Turn on vision. Wait for your opponent to rush into finish off your noob ass. Turn off vision at the last moment and build static defense. Use the previously burrowed zerglings to sneak around the enemy forces and raze the unguarded enemy main.



"Troll Protoss"
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Trick Terran into thinking that your main is elsewhere by blocking the ramp to another main with two probes. Build a hidden pylon at the nearby natural. Let Terran's FD attack deep into the fake main, build cannons at the nearby natural to shut in the FD forces and send your own counterattack to the empty enemy main.




"Troll Terran 2"
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Block the ramp with SCVs. When the enemy probe arrives, lift your CC away and hide your SCVs in the corner and let the enemy probe inside. Chatting rush! Tell your opponent that you've moved to an island base. After the probe leaves, send your SCVs at the ramp to your enemy main as distraction and land your CC and prepare to rush with marines to your opponent's defenseless main.



"Groundhogs"
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7 pool fast burrow build. Attack and prevent cannons and other buildings from being used to wall off by burrowing at those spots. Laugh like hell as your opponent swears up a storm even though ling speed would have ended things faster.



"The King of Trolls"
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Block the ramp with two marines. Three barracks. Start building factory. Lift two barracks. Turn vision on and off SUPER FAST. Enemy sees only the one barracks and one factory because lifted buildings don't show up after the vision is turned off. Cancel the factory and land the barracks. Pull all SCVs and go with mass marines. Enemy is unprepared because he thinks that he saw a 1 factory build.



"4:44 Drone Timing"
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Sonic claims to have researched this timing. He's probably joking. 12 pool. Ling speed. Pull all drones and go at the 4:44 mark.

BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51094 Posts
May 02 2015 03:16 GMT
#2
sonic so next level, the mind games are crazy.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 02 2015 03:19 GMT
#3
Lawl.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-02 04:00:07
May 02 2015 03:59 GMT
#4
LOL only watched the first video but his commentary is great. Sickest zergling mental defense.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 02 2015 04:46 GMT
#5
I don't know what's going on with these but I can't stop watching
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 02 2015 05:31 GMT
#6
What the hell is this.
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Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
May 02 2015 05:31 GMT
#7
rofl that drone timing though
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 02 2015 05:34 GMT
#8
The terran building lift where you fake 1 factory build is mind-blowing.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8126 Posts
May 02 2015 09:21 GMT
#9
My God that terran lift with vision sharing. That's seriously smart. I didn't even understood what he was doing.

His voice is absolutely unbearable though. Maybe I lost the habit of hearing those guys screaming in korean since I don't watch BW VODS anymore.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-02 10:19:52
May 02 2015 10:14 GMT
#10
there is already a thread with sonic vods, from his teen years doing the same stuff. Didnt expect him to do that again.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/475786-how-sonic-plays-starcraft-vods
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:01:59
May 02 2015 12:11 GMT
#11
i checked them all and actually "Gassy Grandma" and "The King of Trolls" are strategically genius.
"Groundhogs" and "Troll Terran" are honorable mentions too

~spirit of Boxer + Terror mixed
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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
May 02 2015 17:19 GMT
#12
this is hilarious
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10780 Posts
May 02 2015 17:51 GMT
#13
LOL Sonic is a hero in every aspect.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 02 2015 17:52 GMT
#14
Wow. what even is this.

Is this the mind you need to start a great company? Shit
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
May 04 2015 03:14 GMT
#15
I realize now that not only Kerrigan was infected, I see. Sonic was the 2nd chosen of Overmind. This guy's mind is so inadequate, psychedelic, stunning, eye-opening, astonishing, overwhelming, reckless, frightening, hair-raising, dangerous and breathtaking.

BTW, we really starting to miss and forget next SBENU SSL. C'mon Sonic, you already did preliminaries 2 months ago, why you waiting still? Just let us know.
sunbeams are never made like me...
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6290 Posts
May 04 2015 14:32 GMT
#16
On May 02 2015 11:55 lemmata wrote:
"Troll Protoss"
+ Show Spoiler +
Trick Terran into thinking that your main is elsewhere by blocking the ramp to another main with two probes. Build a hidden pylon at the nearby natural. Let Terran's FD attack deep into the fake main, build cannons at the nearby natural to shut in the FD forces and send your own counterattack to the empty enemy main.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboQ6mkw--k

Cool, I never knew Sonic had played vs. fantasy.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:50:31
May 04 2015 14:50 GMT
#17
troll zealot was HILARIOUS
edit: daaaaamnn the other videos were even better hahahaha

thank you so much for this thread! do post more if you can find them!

Got a question: in Troll Terran (vid below), was it played on LT? How did he know where the Protoss would be spawning? and the protoss got curious a bit too soon to be able to scout all 3 other positions..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=219&v=nwWjBOwqqSE
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 04 2015 15:33 GMT
#18
Oh I love Sonic tutorials
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moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
May 04 2015 15:44 GMT
#19
These are such fun to watch! Thanks for sharing.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 04 2015 17:39 GMT
#20
haha, some of these are brilliant. Sonic does seem to like his worker pulls This one was not included but is probably his best troll:
On January 18 2015 10:24 _Animus_ wrote:
Very long time ago i found some vods of an crazy player who played the most unorthodox way ive ever seen. Lately ive recalled these games and the player nickname was sonic, when i watched them again it appeared that its the sonic we all know.
Check this out if you havent.

You can also see other videos on this channel.

Poor opponent lol
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 01:13:22
May 05 2015 01:07 GMT
#21
"Secret Blizzard doesn't even know"
+ Show Spoiler +
Prepare zergling all-in. Pause, say you got a phone call, and save the game. Using the same ID, reload the saved game on another computer as single player and practice & figure out what you need to do in order for rush to succeed. Come back, resume the game, and beat the opponent using the same strategy you prepared in advance!

Who need map hacks?



Apparently no good manner goes unpunished.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 05 2015 02:18 GMT
#22
On May 04 2015 23:32 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 11:55 lemmata wrote:
"Troll Protoss"
+ Show Spoiler +
Trick Terran into thinking that your main is elsewhere by blocking the ramp to another main with two probes. Build a hidden pylon at the nearby natural. Let Terran's FD attack deep into the fake main, build cannons at the nearby natural to shut in the FD forces and send your own counterattack to the empty enemy main.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboQ6mkw--k

Cool, I never knew Sonic had played vs. fantasy.

I had a legitimate build PvT like this for Tau Cross, where you pylon walled both your main and another main with your scout then either nexus first in the other main or 1 base.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
May 05 2015 03:02 GMT
#23
On May 05 2015 11:18 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 23:32 oBlade wrote:
On May 02 2015 11:55 lemmata wrote:
"Troll Protoss"
+ Show Spoiler +
Trick Terran into thinking that your main is elsewhere by blocking the ramp to another main with two probes. Build a hidden pylon at the nearby natural. Let Terran's FD attack deep into the fake main, build cannons at the nearby natural to shut in the FD forces and send your own counterattack to the empty enemy main.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboQ6mkw--k

Cool, I never knew Sonic had played vs. fantasy.

I had a legitimate build PvT like this for Tau Cross, where you pylon walled both your main and another main with your scout then either nexus first in the other main or 1 base.


Could you please elaborate?
Do you open similarly with the probe block? pylon walls won't block scvs scouting..
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 05 2015 03:44 GMT
#24
Amazing. Sonic is a genius.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 05 2015 09:05 GMT
#25
Hahahaha i need to watch those. read the description. THis looks so awesome.

THe lift building remind me of Boxer allied mines :p

Wasn't it Boxer that walled a fake ramp vs a protoss and then killed him by counter attacking when the guy attacked the wrong base ?
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
May 05 2015 09:31 GMT
#26
On May 05 2015 12:02 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 11:18 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On May 04 2015 23:32 oBlade wrote:
On May 02 2015 11:55 lemmata wrote:
"Troll Protoss"
+ Show Spoiler +
Trick Terran into thinking that your main is elsewhere by blocking the ramp to another main with two probes. Build a hidden pylon at the nearby natural. Let Terran's FD attack deep into the fake main, build cannons at the nearby natural to shut in the FD forces and send your own counterattack to the empty enemy main.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboQ6mkw--k

Cool, I never knew Sonic had played vs. fantasy.

I had a legitimate build PvT like this for Tau Cross, where you pylon walled both your main and another main with your scout then either nexus first in the other main or 1 base.


Could you please elaborate?
Do you open similarly with the probe block? pylon walls won't block scvs scouting..

But Pylon Wall + 1 Probe should do the job on Tau, I presume.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
May 05 2015 18:21 GMT
#27
On May 05 2015 10:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
"Secret Blizzard doesn't even know"
+ Show Spoiler +
Prepare zergling all-in. Pause, say you got a phone call, and save the game. Using the same ID, reload the saved game on another computer as single player and practice & figure out what you need to do in order for rush to succeed. Come back, resume the game, and beat the opponent using the same strategy you prepared in advance!

Who need map hacks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJve8RLQ4_k

Apparently no good manner goes unpunished.


Wow I've never thought of that. Anyone can pause and save the game in order to maphack easily @@
At least we can unpause the minute someone does that haha

On May 05 2015 18:31 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 12:02 JieXian wrote:
On May 05 2015 11:18 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On May 04 2015 23:32 oBlade wrote:
On May 02 2015 11:55 lemmata wrote:
"Troll Protoss"
+ Show Spoiler +
Trick Terran into thinking that your main is elsewhere by blocking the ramp to another main with two probes. Build a hidden pylon at the nearby natural. Let Terran's FD attack deep into the fake main, build cannons at the nearby natural to shut in the FD forces and send your own counterattack to the empty enemy main.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboQ6mkw--k

Cool, I never knew Sonic had played vs. fantasy.

I had a legitimate build PvT like this for Tau Cross, where you pylon walled both your main and another main with your scout then either nexus first in the other main or 1 base.


Could you please elaborate?
Do you open similarly with the probe block? pylon walls won't block scvs scouting..

But Pylon Wall + 1 Probe should do the job on Tau, I presume.


oh ya, thanks I wasn't active during the Tau Cross era
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iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
May 05 2015 21:38 GMT
#28
So funny!
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom252 Posts
May 05 2015 22:24 GMT
#29
Some of the most incredible starcraft I have ever seen. I didn't realise that Sonic was a bonjwa.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51094 Posts
May 06 2015 01:58 GMT
#30
On May 05 2015 10:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
"Secret Blizzard doesn't even know"
+ Show Spoiler +
Prepare zergling all-in. Pause, say you got a phone call, and save the game. Using the same ID, reload the saved game on another computer as single player and practice & figure out what you need to do in order for rush to succeed. Come back, resume the game, and beat the opponent using the same strategy you prepared in advance!

Who need map hacks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJve8RLQ4_k

Apparently no good manner goes unpunished.


O_O Jesus!
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-11 08:19:40
May 11 2015 08:18 GMT
#31
On May 05 2015 02:39 BigFan wrote:
haha, some of these are brilliant. Sonic does seem to like his worker pulls This one was not included but is probably his best troll:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 10:24 _Animus_ wrote:
Very long time ago i found some vods of an crazy player who played the most unorthodox way ive ever seen. Lately ive recalled these games and the player nickname was sonic, when i watched them again it appeared that its the sonic we all know.
Check this out if you havent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjxOwHT9JtA
You can also see other videos on this channel.

Poor opponent lol

Can't be bother to eliminate your opponent? Just subcontract that to some dude who is willing to do it. For example, the AI.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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