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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
May 03 2017 20:03 GMT
#1781
ofcourse you know better than progamers GTR valuable post here
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-03 20:13:09
May 03 2017 20:12 GMT
#1782
On May 04 2017 05:01 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2017 01:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 01:00 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:51 BigFan wrote:
On May 03 2017 19:05 K.H.J wrote:
News about ASL3.

Afreeca decide to adopt 1.18 from now.

So Group C and D will play 1.18 version.

Mong gives us this info.

This makes me mad. Why are they switching mid ASL? They are affecting the competition because 1.18 still has issues in it and this was shown when they tried it already. Never mind that it's stupid to change mid competition. This is more appropriate next ASL for more time to test things out, not now!

Agree


you said 1.18.3 is verry good patch

I like the patch,i dont like they changed it mid season,u just dont do it in any sport.


Every esport in the world when a new patch is released always switches to the latest version. Unless the latest version has ground breaking bugs that limit the games ability to play matches at a competitive level, then I see no reason to hold onto the old patch.

From what I've seen so far, there's nothing in 1.18.3 that suggests that they can't hold pro matches on it. Every pro complaint has been just them complaining about things being different. In addition it seems its only a slight minority that are against the new patch.

Problems with losing control groups for one is glaring and terrible for the game. Hope Afreeca switches back to 1.16 until Blizzard irons out all the bugs because it's destroying the competition. Also, just because every other esport screws over its players, doesn't mean that we should as well. ASL started with patch 1.16, it should run with the patch till it finishes then next season they can adapt the new patch. Gives time for Blizzard to fix up issues and for players to get used to any changes, only logical.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8892 Posts
May 04 2017 02:03 GMT
#1783
On May 04 2017 05:01 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2017 01:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 01:00 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:51 BigFan wrote:
On May 03 2017 19:05 K.H.J wrote:
News about ASL3.

Afreeca decide to adopt 1.18 from now.

So Group C and D will play 1.18 version.

Mong gives us this info.

This makes me mad. Why are they switching mid ASL? They are affecting the competition because 1.18 still has issues in it and this was shown when they tried it already. Never mind that it's stupid to change mid competition. This is more appropriate next ASL for more time to test things out, not now!

Agree


you said 1.18.3 is verry good patch

I like the patch,i dont like they changed it mid season,u just dont do it in any sport.


Every esport in the world when a new patch is released always switches to the latest version. Unless the latest version has ground breaking bugs that limit the games ability to play matches at a competitive level, then I see no reason to hold onto the old patch.

From what I've seen so far, there's nothing in 1.18.3 that suggests that they can't hold pro matches on it. Every pro complaint has been just them complaining about things being different. In addition it seems its only a slight minority that are against the new patch.

no esport in the world changes patch halfway through a tournament.
they release a patch prior and get players to study and practice with it a bit, but never halfway through a tournament. (assuming the tournament is run by the developer. obviously developers have no control over schedules of tournaments run by other organisations.) seeing as how asl is literally the only major tournament in bw right now, it would make more sense for blizzard to pay attention to it and work around the schedule rather than imposing new rules halfway through. thats just retarded
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 03:46:33
May 04 2017 03:45 GMT
#1784
Yesterday, BJ Kevin(afreecaTV CEO) mentioned it in his streaming.

Viewers : why you choose 1.18 now? It is unfair and has some problems. Please use 1.16

BJ Kevin : sorry, but we dont have any options. But i will communicate with Blizzard and send your opinion to Blizzard.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 04 2017 04:01 GMT
#1785
On May 04 2017 11:03 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2017 05:01 GTR wrote:
On May 04 2017 01:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 01:00 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:51 BigFan wrote:
On May 03 2017 19:05 K.H.J wrote:
News about ASL3.

Afreeca decide to adopt 1.18 from now.

So Group C and D will play 1.18 version.

Mong gives us this info.

This makes me mad. Why are they switching mid ASL? They are affecting the competition because 1.18 still has issues in it and this was shown when they tried it already. Never mind that it's stupid to change mid competition. This is more appropriate next ASL for more time to test things out, not now!

Agree


you said 1.18.3 is verry good patch

I like the patch,i dont like they changed it mid season,u just dont do it in any sport.


Every esport in the world when a new patch is released always switches to the latest version. Unless the latest version has ground breaking bugs that limit the games ability to play matches at a competitive level, then I see no reason to hold onto the old patch.

From what I've seen so far, there's nothing in 1.18.3 that suggests that they can't hold pro matches on it. Every pro complaint has been just them complaining about things being different. In addition it seems its only a slight minority that are against the new patch.

no esport in the world changes patch halfway through a tournament.
they release a patch prior and get players to study and practice with it a bit, but never halfway through a tournament. (assuming the tournament is run by the developer. obviously developers have no control over schedules of tournaments run by other organisations.) seeing as how asl is literally the only major tournament in bw right now, it would make more sense for blizzard to pay attention to it and work around the schedule rather than imposing new rules halfway through. thats just retarded


Just going to FYI that I agree in this instance.

However, if Blizzard had done the patch right originally and made sure there were no issues then I don't think patching would have been a big deal at all. The game itself hasn't changed, just the lobby and ease of access. But strategy isn't going to change, hotkeys aren't changing, etc.

But for some reason Blizzard felt the need to rush out the patch and while I am not having issues, I know there are plenty of players who do.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 06:14:17
May 04 2017 06:13 GMT
#1786
On May 04 2017 05:01 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2017 01:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 01:00 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On May 04 2017 00:51 BigFan wrote:
On May 03 2017 19:05 K.H.J wrote:
News about ASL3.

Afreeca decide to adopt 1.18 from now.

So Group C and D will play 1.18 version.

Mong gives us this info.

This makes me mad. Why are they switching mid ASL? They are affecting the competition because 1.18 still has issues in it and this was shown when they tried it already. Never mind that it's stupid to change mid competition. This is more appropriate next ASL for more time to test things out, not now!

Agree


you said 1.18.3 is verry good patch

I like the patch,i dont like they changed it mid season,u just dont do it in any sport.


Every esport in the world when a new patch is released always switches to the latest version. Unless the latest version has ground breaking bugs that limit the games ability to play matches at a competitive level, then I see no reason to hold onto the old patch.

From what I've seen so far, there's nothing in 1.18.3 that suggests that they can't hold pro matches on it. Every pro complaint has been just them complaining about things being different. In addition it seems its only a slight minority that are against the new patch.

That's not enitrely true. In League of Legends pro players always are 1-2 patches behind. For example, when casuals were already playing on 7.8 patch, pros were still on 7.6 and later siwtched to 7.7 and the season ended even before they could touch the latest patch.
#FPPS
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 04 2017 07:12 GMT
#1787
How do Blizzard benefit from having Afreeca run their tournaments on 1.18 instead of 1.16?
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
May 04 2017 08:06 GMT
#1788
Korean pro's benefit nothing, I repeat NOTHING from 1.18. They didn't had any latency problems, they used launchers, they had their own lobbies with great ASCII type of logo's - 1.18 broke everything. You can't even just type game name/pass to directly join lobby, need to search and find manually private game. 1.18 is PTR for me, this isn't even remastered, so switching decision in mid season of ASL for that crappy patch is ridiculous.
sunbeams are never made like me...
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
May 04 2017 09:14 GMT
#1789
Today, SSL will use 1.18.3 too.

Well...
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
May 04 2017 09:23 GMT
#1790
On May 04 2017 18:14 K.H.J wrote:
Today, SSL will use 1.18.3 too.

Well...

Sir, Could you help to give a list of balloons rankings in past April, including all afreeca sc pro streamers?
I remember you mentioned that in this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/519658-february-players-revenue-rangking-top15

Thans a lot.
TL+ Member
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
May 04 2017 10:10 GMT
#1791
On May 04 2017 18:23 sc19980331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2017 18:14 K.H.J wrote:
Today, SSL will use 1.18.3 too.

Well...

Sir, Could you help to give a list of balloons rankings in past April, including all afreeca sc pro streamers?
I remember you mentioned that in this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/519658-february-players-revenue-rangking-top15

Thans a lot.


I get that info in http://starlog.ml/

But this page is only korean. So if you dont know korean, then it is useless.

GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51630 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 10:31:09
May 04 2017 10:30 GMT
#1792
you can't access it outside of korea with a foreign ip.

so even if you know korean (which i do) i can't access without a vpn.
Commentator
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 21:47:18
May 04 2017 21:46 GMT
#1793
im a little worried about Bisu (being able to practice for asl) ever since the asl/fish serv switched to 1.18.3 he run some tests and writing down sometthing in txt file about 1.18.3 i assume and logged off ever since
toriak
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia477 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 07:00:39
May 05 2017 05:07 GMT
#1794
On May 05 2017 06:46 onlystar wrote:
im a little worried about Bisu (being able to practice for asl) ever since the asl/fish serv switched to 1.18.3 he run some tests and writing down sometthing in txt file about 1.18.3 i assume and logged off ever since


here's what bisu said
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20754417774


K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
May 07 2017 12:20 GMT
#1795
Best and Mong complain about 1.18 in winner's interview right after ASL Group C.

Mong : 1.18 has some preblems, so i was under a lot of stress during preparing this games. please, Blizzard must improve 1.18 version for players and viewers. I wish that Blizzard will be considerate our feelings.

Best : I entirely feel diffrent in ASL and home, especially Mouse.(he means Battlenet vs UDP).
I think Blizzard have to take responsibility about this problem. Many ex-pros cant play active work and do their best.
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
May 07 2017 12:38 GMT
#1796
It's just stupid ASL switch to 1.18 right now. I guess we must thank Blizzard for forcing the switch. Reminds me the methods used to switch from bw to sc2.
BroodWar forever
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 12:44:07
May 07 2017 12:43 GMT
#1797
Can someone give a source where it's said that Blizz forced the switch? (honest question, no snark)
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1765 Posts
May 07 2017 13:02 GMT
#1798
On May 07 2017 21:43 TheNewEra wrote:
Can someone give a source where it's said that Blizz forced the switch? (honest question, no snark)


A couple posts above:

On May 04 2017 12:45 K.H.J wrote:
Yesterday, BJ Kevin(afreecaTV CEO) mentioned it in his streaming.

Viewers : why you choose 1.18 now? It is unfair and has some problems. Please use 1.16

BJ Kevin : sorry, but we dont have any options. But i will communicate with Blizzard and send your opinion to Blizzard.


Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51630 Posts
May 07 2017 13:26 GMT
#1799
If anyone remembers...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/82864-kespa-we-gonna-still-using-1153
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
May 07 2017 14:17 GMT
#1800
So much for "we are doing it for the community and progamers"

Same old Blizzard
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