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Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
Afreeca decide to adopt 1.18 from now. So Group C and D will play 1.18 version. Mong gives us this info. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51225 Posts
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
 especially for Fish use 1.18 only. | ||
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AdelSC123
France362 Posts
"[...] since kespa was forced out, tournament organizers have been weak. They decided to switch to the unproven (proven to have quite a few issues if we want to be accurate) 1.18 version even in the middle of the ASL. The sporting regulation in place is pretty much from the kespa era, I don't think SSL or ASL even have the means to even think about it. On top of that, blizzard will now be able to set the rules of the semi-competitive players with the ladder, which will force ASL/SSL to follow the rules set by a company who's primary aim is to sell games and not make sure that the sport is profitable on the long term." | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1717 Posts
On May 03 2017 21:40 AdelSC123 wrote: Not a surprise since fish switched to 1.18. My guess is that Fish was allowed to switch back to 1.16 until a later date due to the Korean outcry and that ASL has to follow if they don't want to disconnect even more ASL competitors and semi-competitive players on the ladder. Like I said in an older post in about hotkeys: "[...] since kespa was forced out, tournament organizers have been weak. They decided to switch to the unproven (proven to have quite a few issues if we want to be accurate) 1.18 version even in the middle of the ASL. The sporting regulation in place is pretty much from the kespa era, I don't think SSL or ASL even have the means to even think about it. On top of that, blizzard will now be able to set the rules of the semi-competitive players with the ladder, which will force ASL/SSL to follow the rules set by a company who's primary aim is to sell games and not make sure that the sport is profitable on the long term." Totally agree with your bolded section in particular. This is one of the reasons why I really dislike 1.18 and BW remastered, full stop. It's a negative direction which will likely be almost impossible to row back from, once introduced. I hope Shieldbattery can gain significant Korean uptake (and doesn't then get sued by blizzard). | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
Afreeca and Spotv cant hold tournament without Blizzard. They dont have power to reject Blizzard. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:19 Bakuryu wrote: they cant hold the tournament because they need money from blizzard? or they cant hold the tournament without following blizzards "guideline" on how to make that tournament (e.g. if blizzard says use 1.18, then you are forced to use 1.18) Not money problem, AfreecaTV CEO love BW so much. Do you remember WemadeFox? He was owner of Fox team and promised to invest ASL more. It is license problem. Yes, what i want to tell you is "Guideline", as you say. Some ex pros tell continuously to AfreecaTV now. But Afreeca dont have right to decide version. And now afreeca says they will communicate with Blizzard. AfreecaTV also want to use 1.16 version until ASL3 Final. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
so those "Some ex pros" are against 1.18? which ex pros are those? Its nice that AfreecaTV also wants to keep 1.16. Switching patches mid-season is like the biggest mistake ever. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:37 Bakuryu wrote: K.H.J. you always have so many interesting informations :D so those "Some ex pros" are against 1.18? which ex pros are those? Its nice that AfreecaTV also wants to keep 1.16. Switching patches mid-season is like the biggest mistake ever. I agree with you. One season, one version is rule, i think. Stork and Mind criticized 1.18.3 on their stream today. Stork's today stream title is ' 1.18.3 is failed.' | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On May 03 2017 19:05 K.H.J wrote: News about ASL3. Afreeca decide to adopt 1.18 from now. So Group C and D will play 1.18 version. Mong gives us this info. This makes me mad. Why are they switching mid ASL? They are affecting the competition because 1.18 still has issues in it and this was shown when they tried it already. Never mind that it's stupid to change mid competition. This is more appropriate next ASL for more time to test things out, not now! | ||
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AdelSC123
France362 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7012 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:51 BigFan wrote: This makes me mad. Why are they switching mid ASL? They are affecting the competition because 1.18 still has issues in it and this was shown when they tried it already. Never mind that it's stupid to change mid competition. This is more appropriate next ASL for more time to test things out, not now! Agree | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:28 K.H.J wrote: Not money problem, AfreecaTV CEO love BW so much. Do you remember WemadeFox? He was owner of Fox team and promised to invest ASL more. It is license problem. Yes, what i want to tell you is "Guideline", as you say. Some ex pros tell continuously to AfreecaTV now. But Afreeca dont have right to decide version. And now afreeca says they will communicate with Blizzard. AfreecaTV also want to use 1.16 version until ASL3 Final. This does mean tho that if Blizz is like: Yeah use 1.16 until 1.18 works really well that they don't need to change right? This doesn't sound as if they are forced to change but are just uncertain what they think Blizz wants them to use. | ||
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
you said 1.18.3 is verry good patch | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7012 Posts
I like the patch,i dont like they changed it mid season,u just dont do it in any sport. | ||
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Phyanketto
United States601 Posts
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GTR
51680 Posts
On May 04 2017 01:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: I like the patch,i dont like they changed it mid season,u just dont do it in any sport. Every esport in the world when a new patch is released always switches to the latest version. Unless the latest version has ground breaking bugs that limit the games ability to play matches at a competitive level, then I see no reason to hold onto the old patch. From what I've seen so far, there's nothing in 1.18.3 that suggests that they can't hold pro matches on it. Every pro complaint has been just them complaining about things being different. In addition it seems its only a slight minority that are against the new patch. | ||
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