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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 12 2014 12:09 GMT
#201
On September 12 2014 15:02 N.geNuity wrote:
Well, various contract negotiations and terminations keep occuring so as expected, Love probably had to wait on some upcoming names to formally announce before going forward

granted big names may still continue as sc2 progamers, some of those TBA's just have to be on current kespa rosters

my thoughts too, has to be the reason she is waiting to announce the players.

On September 12 2014 19:04 duke91 wrote:
What if... Kespa is going to full switch back to BW and the progamers recently becoming free agent wanted to stay in SC2 so that they are now looking for a foreign team?

LoL is Kespa's new BW :/

On September 12 2014 20:41 Probemicro wrote:
foreign teams are not a haven like what some all of these "sheltered" kespa players may think...for players less accomplished like fantasy and hydra its not very likely they would succeed even if they are signed by a foreign team...people like inno, trap,genius,sea have all left those teams after a while, every korean that been to eg slumps to rot.

well "consolation" is that it would might hasten their exit to BW.

to quote from nerchio :"Looks like they heard too many fairy tales before going to bed."

It's probably the thoughts of just traveling and moving away from a strict training schedule though ya, it's totally different and it won't fit some of them. Sea didn't like the game and retired soon after though I don't think he should be used as an example.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
September 12 2014 14:55 GMT
#202
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 18:14:37
September 12 2014 18:14 GMT
#203
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 20:41 Probemicro wrote:
foreign teams are not a haven like what some all of these "sheltered" kespa players may think...for players less accomplished like fantasy and hydra its not very likely they would succeed even if they are signed by a foreign team...people like inno, trap,genius,sea have all left those teams after a while, every korean that been to eg slumps to rot.

well "consolation" is that it would might hasten their exit to BW.

to quote from nerchio :"Looks like they heard too many fairy tales before going to bed."

It's probably the thoughts of just traveling and moving away from a strict training schedule though ya, it's totally different and it won't fit some of them. Sea didn't like the game and retired soon after though I don't think he should be used as an example.


Considering that their skill will decline with a foreign team, it could mean that:
1) They will join the army soon after their time abroad
2) Retire completely but earn some more money before/see the world, then join the army
3) Want to earn money before switching back part-time to BW
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ExBoshy
Profile Joined June 2014
118 Posts
September 12 2014 18:42 GMT
#204
Where did they get 50k USD?
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
September 12 2014 19:44 GMT
#205
On September 12 2014 21:09 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 15:02 N.geNuity wrote:
Well, various contract negotiations and terminations keep occuring so as expected, Love probably had to wait on some upcoming names to formally announce before going forward

granted big names may still continue as sc2 progamers, some of those TBA's just have to be on current kespa rosters

my thoughts too, has to be the reason she is waiting to announce the players.

Exactly what I thought. Waiting for the KESPA contracts to run out to invite 1-2 KESPA player
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 13 2014 06:11 GMT
#206
There's a chance for RorO in LoveTV if rumors are correct.
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
September 13 2014 06:13 GMT
#207
On September 13 2014 15:11 eviltomahawk wrote:
There's a chance for RorO in LoveTV if rumors are correct.

I was thinking that too... and hyvaa probably given all the other STX players that still bands together even now.

But even if that's the case, there's still 3 more mystery Zergs... hm...
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 13 2014 06:52 GMT
#208
On September 12 2014 23:55 HyralGambit wrote:
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz


This would be beyond awesome.

Only thing more awesome would be Soulkey, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
September 14 2014 09:52 GMT
#209
Any info when this could actually start?
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 14 2014 10:02 GMT
#210
On September 14 2014 18:52 johanes wrote:
Any info when this could actually start?

Nope. No news since 9/1.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 08:53:15
September 15 2014 08:52 GMT
#211
you would think at least a few of them have started practicing in fish already, though I haven't seen a 2port wraith gosu on an afreeca stream yet
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8685 Posts
September 15 2014 09:25 GMT
#212
On September 15 2014 17:52 Probemicro wrote:
you would think at least a few of them have started practicing in fish already, though I haven't seen a 2port wraith gosu on an afreeca stream yet


They obviously practice in secret team houses.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
September 15 2014 11:16 GMT
#213
On September 13 2014 15:52 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 23:55 HyralGambit wrote:
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz


This would be beyond awesome.

Only thing more awesome would be Soulkey, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I believe there were rumours starting last week that Soulkey would be retiring and would start streaming on afreeca. Same with hOn_sin. Could be possible.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 15 2014 15:33 GMT
#214
If the skt guys were leaving skt it 90% likely would have come in the big announcement skt made
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 15 2014 17:19 GMT
#215
On September 15 2014 20:16 Talionis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 15:52 L_Master wrote:
On September 12 2014 23:55 HyralGambit wrote:
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz


This would be beyond awesome.

Only thing more awesome would be Soulkey, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I believe there were rumours starting last week that Soulkey would be retiring and would start streaming on afreeca. Same with hOn_sin. Could be possible.

I really can't imagine that SKT, possibly the richest of the KeSPA teams, would let either of that happen. If those two leave in addition to the already confirmed leaving of Rain, Parting, and Fantasy, who does SKT really have left? Paralyze, soO, Classic, and a bunch of B-teamers/no-namers are what's left. Unless SKT is going for a bigger shakeup, I would think that they would fight hard to retain the players they have left.

And it looks like the rumors of RorO possibly retiring aren't as solid anymore
http://gyazo.com/1e3b46ae9a6ff5247696ed86484e1164
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 15 2014 17:24 GMT
#216
Dont worry, at this rate everyone will retire and/or return eventually
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
September 15 2014 17:42 GMT
#217
On September 16 2014 02:19 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 20:16 Talionis wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:52 L_Master wrote:
On September 12 2014 23:55 HyralGambit wrote:
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz


This would be beyond awesome.

Only thing more awesome would be Soulkey, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I believe there were rumours starting last week that Soulkey would be retiring and would start streaming on afreeca. Same with hOn_sin. Could be possible.

I really can't imagine that SKT, possibly the richest of the KeSPA teams, would let either of that happen. If those two leave in addition to the already confirmed leaving of Rain, Parting, and Fantasy, who does SKT really have left? Paralyze, soO, Classic, and a bunch of B-teamers/no-namers are what's left. Unless SKT is going for a bigger shakeup, I would think that they would fight hard to retain the players they have left.

And it looks like the rumors of RorO possibly retiring aren't as solid anymore
http://gyazo.com/1e3b46ae9a6ff5247696ed86484e1164

But then again, remember when people thought STX and Woongjin were going to do fine? And now look at PianO, ZerO, Mini and Last.

Never underestimate how fragile the Korean SC2 scene actually is, I say.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 15 2014 18:00 GMT
#218
On September 16 2014 02:42 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 02:19 eviltomahawk wrote:
On September 15 2014 20:16 Talionis wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:52 L_Master wrote:
On September 12 2014 23:55 HyralGambit wrote:
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz


This would be beyond awesome.

Only thing more awesome would be Soulkey, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I believe there were rumours starting last week that Soulkey would be retiring and would start streaming on afreeca. Same with hOn_sin. Could be possible.

I really can't imagine that SKT, possibly the richest of the KeSPA teams, would let either of that happen. If those two leave in addition to the already confirmed leaving of Rain, Parting, and Fantasy, who does SKT really have left? Paralyze, soO, Classic, and a bunch of B-teamers/no-namers are what's left. Unless SKT is going for a bigger shakeup, I would think that they would fight hard to retain the players they have left.

And it looks like the rumors of RorO possibly retiring aren't as solid anymore
http://gyazo.com/1e3b46ae9a6ff5247696ed86484e1164

But then again, remember when people thought STX and Woongjin were going to do fine? And now look at PianO, ZerO, Mini and Last.

Never underestimate how fragile the Korean SC2 scene actually is, I say.

But those teams had parent companies in financial trouble.

SKT should be the most stable team out of all of them. SK Telecom has and seems to continue to support the SC2 Proleague as a title sponsor. Heck, SK Telecom had supported Brood War out of its own pocket for its final year with the BW SK Planet Proleague Season 1. Out of all the teams, they should be the last ones to run into trouble considering how much the parent company has invested in Starcraft.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 15 2014 18:07 GMT
#219
On September 16 2014 03:00 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 02:42 HyralGambit wrote:
On September 16 2014 02:19 eviltomahawk wrote:
On September 15 2014 20:16 Talionis wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:52 L_Master wrote:
On September 12 2014 23:55 HyralGambit wrote:
EffOrt, please... boster the SoSPA Zerg line-up plz


This would be beyond awesome.

Only thing more awesome would be Soulkey, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I believe there were rumours starting last week that Soulkey would be retiring and would start streaming on afreeca. Same with hOn_sin. Could be possible.

I really can't imagine that SKT, possibly the richest of the KeSPA teams, would let either of that happen. If those two leave in addition to the already confirmed leaving of Rain, Parting, and Fantasy, who does SKT really have left? Paralyze, soO, Classic, and a bunch of B-teamers/no-namers are what's left. Unless SKT is going for a bigger shakeup, I would think that they would fight hard to retain the players they have left.

And it looks like the rumors of RorO possibly retiring aren't as solid anymore
http://gyazo.com/1e3b46ae9a6ff5247696ed86484e1164

But then again, remember when people thought STX and Woongjin were going to do fine? And now look at PianO, ZerO, Mini and Last.

Never underestimate how fragile the Korean SC2 scene actually is, I say.

But those teams had parent companies in financial trouble.

SKT should be the most stable team out of all of them. SK Telecom has and seems to continue to support the SC2 Proleague as a title sponsor. Heck, SK Telecom had supported Brood War out of its own pocket for its final year with the BW SK Planet Proleague Season 1. Out of all the teams, they should be the last ones to run into trouble considering how much the parent company has invested in Starcraft.


I beg to differ: Because they invested in so much, they have by far the highest incentives to get out of SC2, considering also that investing in SC2 doesn't give much compared to LoL. SC2 seems to be a moneysink: much less viewers than BW in its later years, but with the same investment. I think it shows right now that SK Telecom will withdraw, KT will follow as they don't have any rival anymore, then the others.
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 18:27:18
September 15 2014 18:26 GMT
#220
Skt sponsored other things too

They propped up special forces proleague. Sponsor a lot of LoL

They had TWO mascots, not just some giant flash head. Give vacations to players. Etc

Obviously if they had financial worries about ROI i think that would have shown by now

Dunno who sponsored like kart rider but that was also kespa iirc, and most likely kt/skt are biggest players there with samsung and cj
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
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