• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:22
CEST 06:22
KST 13:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Syncronization issues and can't find games [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo)
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6844 users

BCTV Starleague Season 1 Ro8 Preview

Forum Index > BW General
10 CommentsPost a Reply
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 15:15:45
August 22 2014 06:30 GMT
#1
[image loading]

With the Ro16 finished on August 13, 2014, it's time to look forward to Ro8. In terms of racial distribution, 50% of Ro8 consists of Terrans (Sea, sSak, PianO and Mind), 38% is Zergs (Larva, Killer and hero) with the rest being Snow, the lone Protoss fighting for Aiur. One thing to keep in mind before reading more: The information presented below is still in the preliminary stages. Though matchups are fixed, the group titles may be changed and no dates have been posted yet. Once more information is made available, this post will be updated with the important details.

Group A: (Z)Killer vs (P)Snow -> Tuesday, Aug 26 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Killer has been on top of the afreeca scene for a while now. Hailed as the best Zerg, he has been solid in all of his matchups. This tournament was no different as he showed us some solid games on his way to Ro8 beating Noble, PianO and Pusan. His games against Pusan highlighted his good decision making skills and flawless late game control which allowed him to easily take the series 3-1. His record vs P is sitting at 73% showing that he is quite successful in the matchup. On the other hand, Snow's results paint him in a negative light. On his way to Ro8, his opponents were mostly terrans such as Hiya and Mong. He played one series against Kwanro which he won 2-1 but that's not much to go on. In the 41 Starleague Season 2, he won a single game against Cola but lost the series. His current record sits at 1-7 against players such as hero, Cola and ZerO which are Zergs that aren't on Killer's level. It's hard to say if Snow's vZ has gotten better or not however there is little doubt in my mind that Killer will win this.
Prediction: 3-1 Killer. Expect lots of reavers and for Snow to make Killer fight for his wins.

Group B: (T)Sea vs (T)Mind -> Tuesday, Aug 26 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Though both Sea and Mind have been around for a while now, they have only played against each other once before with Sea taking that game on Circuit Breaker in the 1st KoTH Proleague. In this tournament, neither player has actually faced another Terran so that we can see how solid their game is. Taking a look at their records in the matchup, the difference is astounding. Sea is averaging 71% compared to Mind's 35% though Mind's sample size is smaller. Their professional BW vT record also puts things in Sea's favour. Of course, Mind is an MSL winner and can't be counted out because he's still an all around fantastic player. Despite the data pointing heavily in Sea's favour, I can see this series go all the way to game 5 though in the end, I believe that Sea will be victorious.
Prediction: 3-2 Sea. Either really close series or Sea will roll Mind over 3-0 like he did to sSak during 15th SRT.

Group C: (Z)hero vs (Z)Larva -> Thursday, Aug 28 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
This is an interesting matchup to speculate on. Both players have had a similar road to the Ro8, through Terran and Protoss players only. A look at their recent results reveals that they were both knocked out of 41 Starleague Season 2 in Ro16. In hero's case, he was 2-0'd by Killer while Larva was first 2-0'd by Cola and then by Sea to get knocked out. Though the end outcome was the same, hero's play against Killer who is a higher caliber Zerg than Cola felt more impressive to watch. In terms of head to head fights, hero took the latest win over Larva on Athena in 2014 2nd LoveTV BJ Starleague otherwise their last encounter was back in 11th SRT. A further look into their ZvZ records shows that hero also has a better win rate than Larva. All in all, this is a hard series to call. It can really go either way depending on how the players prepare for the matchup.
Prediction: 3-2 hero because I'm bias for our ZvP hero from SSL9. hero fighting!

Group D: (T)PianO vs (T)sSak -> Thursday, Aug 28 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Third mirror match of the Ro8, a TvT between two similarly skilled players. In this tournament, PianO advanced to the Ro8 without having to face a single Terran along the way. sSak had to play Sexy who he defeated 2-0 in the Ro32 group stages but also faced no other Terrans. These two players have had several encounters in past tournaments though. As it stands, PianO is 1-4 against sSak with the latest string of losses in the SBENU Allstars tournament. sSak also has a much better win rate vT in comparison to PianO (68% to 54%) and has been on fire lately. PianO will not be an easy opponent for sSak though as he will be looking to try and equalize their record. Though all the data seems to point towards sSak having the greater advantage, I can't help but feel that PianO will prepare really hard for this. After all, he's the same guy who was laddering 14 hours a day at one point. PianO, prove me right!
Prediction: PianO will defy all odds and beat sSak 3-1 (or 3-2, both are good!).

What do you think? Will Snow upset Killer to make Ro4? Is Mind's TvT better than is thought? Will PianO indeed upset sSak or will sSak extend their record?
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
August 22 2014 07:25 GMT
#2
Still can't believe how active you are on TL BigFan lol.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
August 22 2014 09:45 GMT
#3
Thanks for the fun read. That Snow vs Jaedong clip is epic

Very much agree with the match-up predictions. Bold prediction with PianO, but justifiable. Seeing how sSak was just recently dominated by Sky @ 41 SL...

I'd just add -- I don't think Hero will need 5 games against Larva. They play 1v1 on Fish quite a bit and Larva rarely manages a win
Liquipedia
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 22 2014 09:53 GMT
#4
Poor Snow ^^ PianO hwaiting! Can't decide who to root for otherwise I'll just hope for cool games as usual. Nice writeup!
En Taro Violet
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:32:09
August 22 2014 15:31 GMT
#5
Thanks for the comments. Prech, I only went with that prediction because Larva has won games against hero in the past and the skill difference between the two players doesn't seem that huge so it's possible if Larva prepares

On August 22 2014 16:25 DooMDash wrote:
Still can't believe how active you are on TL BigFan lol.

ya, same here though I like the community and the game so not surprising when I think about it
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 22 2014 15:51 GMT
#6
Idk man if Jaedong just BARELY edged out Snow, do you guys really think that Snow won't upset Killer?

Anyways, great writeup BigFan. Your writing style reads easy.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
August 22 2014 16:12 GMT
#7
On August 23 2014 00:51 Xiphos wrote:
Idk man if Jaedong just BARELY edged out Snow, do you guys really think that Snow won't upset Killer?

Anyways, great writeup BigFan. Your writing style reads easy.


Proleague days are a long time ago though. Same players, but in terms of skill, it's a different ball game. I wouldn't mind being wrong, but I expect Killer to do well. I agree snow is good enough to upset though, but he will need to give 110%.

On August 22 2014 18:45 prech wrote:
Thanks for the fun read. That Snow vs Jaedong clip is epic

Very much agree with the match-up predictions. Bold prediction with PianO, but justifiable. Seeing how sSak was just recently dominated by Sky @ 41 SL...

I'd just add -- I don't think Hero will need 5 games against Larva. They play 1v1 on Fish quite a bit and Larva rarely manages a win


Did not expect sSak to go 0-3 to sky, but tbh, I was more surprised at Sky than disappointed by sSak. TvT is a different ball game though and he should brush aside piano. I think sea vs mind will be a closer series. Lots of TvT goodness either way!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 23 2014 10:50 GMT
#8
On August 23 2014 00:51 Xiphos wrote:
Idk man if Jaedong just BARELY edged out Snow, do you guys really think that Snow won't upset Killer?

Anyways, great writeup BigFan. Your writing style reads easy.

shizzz is right, wanted to give Snow more credit since I'm sure his PvZ is better than what we think but it's been way too long since he's played that game and Killer has been playing really well so while I think Snow will make it hard for him, Killer should take it

thanks, glad it reads easy. What I was hoping for
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 25 2014 15:16 GMT
#9
We have some information as to the dates, updated OP!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
josfachris123
Profile Joined August 2014
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 16:14:30
August 25 2014 16:14 GMT
#10
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
nice and good
TheEnder
Profile Joined July 2014
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 02:26:37
August 29 2014 20:09 GMT
#11
I've casted Killer vs Snow...but somehow my youtube channel setup some kind of mirror site...so they aren't showing up on my primary youtube page.

Ok I got it fixed! They are on my channel! Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ8Y3Pud_Nyx87P4vJUIzXw

BW FTW!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Wild Card
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 214
ProTech26
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2006
Rain 1652
GuemChi 1245
NaDa 35
Noble 12
Britney 0
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm152
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 770
Counter-Strike
taco 406
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1681
Mew2King71
Other Games
summit1g11404
WinterStarcraft433
PiGStarcraft318
XaKoH 231
C9.Mang0226
Livibee118
Maynarde102
ViBE75
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1687
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 81
• Light_VIP 35
• practicex 23
• davetesta15
• Letter147
• Response 3
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1048
• Rush429
• Stunt268
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6h 38m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
17h 38m
Replay Cast
19h 38m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.