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siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 22:58:24
September 15 2006 22:55 GMT
#101
we only used 1950 mins total

FiFo used 2178..
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
September 15 2006 22:58 GMT
#102
Our mineral saving strategy clearly backfired >.<
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
September 15 2006 22:58 GMT
#103
On September 16 2006 07:55 SiRo- wrote:
we only used 1950 mins total
ugh we shoulda picked one of the overpriced but still good players somewhere in the middle. This team looks so inconsistant.
for all we could have done and all that could have been...
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 15 2006 22:59 GMT
#104
I think relatively to our spot (6th in line) we had the best picks out of everyone. Three times it happened that a player that was by far our favorite was choosen by PGR (5th). We have a strong team, but not as strong as others since we were't first to pick.

Most importantly though out of 8 players we have 0 players we are unhappy about, which is better than what goes for most other teams who all have 1-2 players they would rather not have in their team. In the ending we thought we could get leg+advocate because the other teams had no minerals but they spent their whole budget after 7 rounds and since we were 6th to pick we couldn't take those guys anymore.

We're also very glad we have 3 TL contributors in FA, Ret and Daze. We have a nice and fun team with a possible shot at some good results. The logo contest is what will probably hold us down to take the crown, though. But again I don't think any other team would have had this good of a squad when being 6th to pick.
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Phantom
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada2151 Posts
September 15 2006 23:00 GMT
#105
i think fighterforum wins this =)
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/Phantom
yosh
Profile Joined November 2004
United States285 Posts
September 15 2006 23:02 GMT
#106
dont know if anyone really knows how difficult it was for mani/naz to select the players for this team when a) our logo got beat by a line of text and b) pgr21, the team that had the liberty of choosing before us half the time, took 3 of the exact ppl we were going to select the very next turn. that's pretty much just the surface of things, but wait for mani's writeup =]!
forever mech
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 15 2006 23:05 GMT
#107
nicely said naz. i still think we can make a mark because we have a good balanced team, unlike most of the others who blew their budget on their first few picks, then were scrapping the bottom of the barrel the rest of the time

and i apologize to mani for the message i sent him during the drafting
AUSSIESCUM
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Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 23:08:36
September 15 2006 23:08 GMT
#108
nvm
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
September 15 2006 23:08 GMT
#109
My rank of the teams

#1SCLegacy is the best team imo. SEn, Super, Pie and ITO are very good picks. The rest are players who have atleast one MU they can do very good in ie Day ZvT iNc ZvZ

#2Bw.De. Jang, Zergstory, and HitEmUp great choices inside all 3 races. They also have a high standard on their lowest players like Squall and Strelok who are very good.

#3Reps.Ru. Very strong first four players. The others like Leg, and Advokate can beat very good opponents in their best MUs.

#4FighterForum. Great players. Much pressure on Draco to fit his bill, Other[S.G], Tempest and Sonjjang carries this team imo, and it all comes down to their shape.

#5PGR.com. This team has Midian and Kaaz who are some of the best ZvT/ZvP players outside KOR, and in addition they have a very good korean lineup. This team is the darkhorse imo. It all comes down to Midian and Kaaz delivering the goods if their koreans somehow slip up.

#6TeamLiquid. Heavy pressure on their two koreans, but players like Fisheye, and ret need to shape up and its all good. LX needs to avoid PvZ, and he'll be a HIT. Ognis, Plto and Daze are players who are hungry and will play with their hearts

#7Gosugamers. The pride of the nonkoreans. Mondragon and Testie has to do well here. White-Ra and EX are imo around same level, and they're well practiced now that its WCG time.

#8YGClan Well their two koreans have to kick ass. Dove needs to get Zergs, PJ needs to avoid Zergs. After those 3 theres Sarens and Odin who hold a high level, but Im afraid its going to be short if any of these doesnt show up.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 15 2006 23:09 GMT
#110
tempest)is(, only[s.g], kimtaerang, active, draco, nal_crayon, quirion, ovvi

I dunno I really think this is an average team that we can beat. Active is not good, Sonjjang is a huge question mark. Tempest/only are very good but not the best. Draco said something like his schedule can only be from 2:30 to 5:00, which is the reason we didn't pick him, because we didnt think he would show up for his matches. Then they have Crayon, Quirion, Ovvi.

We felt PGR had the best picks by far. nal_keke, polaris[arnc],siz)o.ov those three were all in our favorite choices they are really highly rated in terms of skill (not minerals per se). Add to those 3 monsters Kaaz, Midian, Idra, Oldy and Fayth and you have a very solid team.
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
September 15 2006 23:09 GMT
#111
TL.net chose before PGR21 many times aswell

Those times TL chose before pgr21, tl chose Kosiro(V good), FA(not so good), theognis(bad), daze(bad)... so i think TL only have themselves to blame here (
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
trtr
Profile Joined May 2006
Russian Federation17 Posts
September 15 2006 23:09 GMT
#112
i`d like to point one thing - GG team is really good in terms of: "WTF, where is our first line-up for clan-war in 21:00" ?!?!?!
These players dont have any language barrier and most of them are willingly participating and giving their best in online events.
And the non-korean teams who get koreans - i think they will have troubles with that.
TT
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 23:14:55
September 15 2006 23:14 GMT
#113
Here's a list with the picks we had in mind. They go per round first 6 were options for round 6 and so on. As you can see according to our list there's some teams out there with very bad picks. But we will have to see about this. I still say PGR has by far the best picks and they were 5th, meaning the first four teams didn't do so well. I like Reps.ru's picks as well but am really unimpressed with SCL and GG. Seeing the spots they held when making the picks I really think they did horrible. Regardless they might still do good since picking first was a huge advantage in this thing.

Nal_keke Dong-hyuk Lim Z Korea 376
Sea.Jang Hee-jong Shin T Korea 340
Kosiro[Shield] Jae-uk Lee Z Korea 272
Polaris[Arnc] Hak-jou Kim T Korea 244
Tempest)Is( Jae-young Park P Korea 334
Siz)FanTaSy Myung-hoon Jung T Korea 292


Siz)o.ov Chang-gyu Hwang P Korea 370
s2[fOu] Seung-suk Lee Z Korea 280
Sea.Pie Ju-hyun Park P Korea 322
Only[S.G] Hyun-sik Jung T Korea 300
Nal_Paris Yong-sam Shin T Korea 310
Sea.FinePix Chul-min Bae T Korea 358

Super Minglu Zhang T China 268
Lx Luo Xian P China 364
Pheonix66 Chuanhai Zhuang T China 252
White_ra Aleksey Krupnick P Ukraine 352
In_Dove Ho Young Song T Korea 440
MidiaN Jamie Hallam Z England 296

PltO Jonathan Walsh P Sweden 128
ret Jos de Kroon Z Holland 212
theognis Michael McClelland T USA 80
ReasoN Paulo Cardoso Z Brazil 146
SarenS Pierre Guivarch T France 164


In round 4 we would try to save some minerals with a good/cheap pick so we could continue some good buys in the last couple of rounds and not be stuck with people we didn't want (like other cheap players we considered less good for example. After round 4 things would become so messy we couldn't really make a list beforehand, but during the draft we were on MSN with Manifesto, Yosh, Midian and myself to make sure we got the right people in.
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Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
September 15 2006 23:16 GMT
#114
On September 16 2006 08:09 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
TL.net chose before PGR21 many times aswell

Those times TL chose before pgr21, tl chose Kosiro(V good), FA(not so good), theognis(bad), daze(bad)... so i think TL only have themselves to blame here (


actually, pgr chose keke over kosiro but both are good.
It's next round that TL chose siz)fantasy over polaris which is about even I think?

We won't know if our picks are bad until the games are played. As Naz said it's a fun team.
GG has by far the funnest team
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-15 23:22:11
September 15 2006 23:18 GMT
#115
On September 16 2006 08:09 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
TL.net chose before PGR21 many times aswell

Those times TL chose before pgr21, tl chose Kosiro(V good), FA(not so good), theognis(bad), daze(bad)... so i think TL only have themselves to blame here (

You're only looking according to skill. FA is no Korean pro but he is pretty damn solid. With this pick we could go for more expensive players in round 7 and 8 (Fisheye and Daze). Same goes for Theon. Both him and FA are better than you might think otherwise we wouldn't have choosen them. They are cheap+good whereas other teams in round 7 and 8 have gotten cheap and bad players. So in order to be able to make good picks in later rounds we picked those players. They are very good picks and we are happy with them. You can't go for the most expensive player all the time. I don't know why you say Daze is bad though, he's a pretty good player.

Bottom line; others choose TOP players in round 4-5 and ended up with the worst in 7-8. We choose to pick good/cheap players in 4-5 and end up with good/top players in 7-8.

Another thing I would like to say about GG's team is that I don't agree with their choices in accordance with skill/minerals, however their strongest point might turn out to be that their players will actually show up for their matches. In that way they might have done a smart job. SCL is totally unexplainable. Guybrush putting SCL as his #1 is very wrong.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
September 15 2006 23:21 GMT
#116
Hehe I think it was funny how GG picked, and I wonder whose idea that was. Maybe Testie was the one behind the picking ? If Testie had to pick nonkoreans I think hed pick like that. I might be wrong though =]
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
September 15 2006 23:21 GMT
#117
yea well, I think if ret and fish takes this serious we'll be one of the better teams, if not the best.
for all we could have done and all that could have been...
new_construct
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1041 Posts
September 15 2006 23:23 GMT
#118
schniblor is good, thought he once won a tournamnet or something should have picked him over daze
amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
September 15 2006 23:27 GMT
#119
I like our team
grats to the one who did the picks ^^
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 15 2006 23:29 GMT
#120
Ahahaha SCLegacy... LOL
LOL oh man... they just went after name value it seems.

I am honestly quite happy with our team. I think I could see us vs Fifo in the finals if Fifo presents their A roster every time. This is gonna be a fun event for everyone...

Cept Day cuz he's on a clearly losing team. T.T sorry
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
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