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LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
December 14 2013 19:39 GMT
#541
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I thought it's pretty obvious that Scan must not be allowed to play given the wording of the ruling, but eventually would have to play for entertainment reasons (not making the event too one-sided). The most meaningful result of the whole debate going on in regards whether a semi-pro korean should be playing, at least in my eyes, is the huge implicit insult to other teams, who are not being viewed as worthy contenders for the gold in the SBWI league and need such boost in order to get the competition going.
Enjoy the game
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
December 14 2013 19:59 GMT
#542
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TL didn't allow Scan to play in the biggest league outside of Korea. He should totally be playing in the biggest team league. I also won't spoiler my text, it's a complaint, not a secret. I understand you don't want your organization looking bad, but that's kind of the entire problem that spawned the complaint.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
sas.ZaRaki
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 23:22:58
December 14 2013 22:47 GMT
#543
that screenshot...
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
December 15 2013 06:42 GMT
#544
I thought this was an interesting tidbit from iCCup's main event when he was streaming it on Twitch.TV:

Skryoo1004: i'm korean.
» i'm not american.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 07:16:51
December 15 2013 07:16 GMT
#545
On December 15 2013 04:59 Game wrote:
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TL didn't allow Scan to play in the biggest league outside of Korea. He should totally be playing in the biggest team league. I also won't spoiler my text, it's a complaint, not a secret. I understand you don't want your organization looking bad, but that's kind of the entire problem that spawned the complaint.


This has nothing to do with SBWI looking bad or so, just that, as draw was hinting, you were spoiling results as well.
Need a light?
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
December 15 2013 08:34 GMT
#546
On December 15 2013 04:20 GeckoXp wrote:
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On December 15 2013 03:52 Game wrote:

5. Scan is the most famous cheater that still plays BW.





I had to laugh in real life. Loud. Feeling challenged for the throne, eh?


wow

much lols

so hypocrite

very entertain

such drama

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sucks when your stacked team isn't number one eh, getting antsy about promising Eywa to refund for Sziky?

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
December 15 2013 09:50 GMT
#547
If someone would like to know who plays who tonight, without any results spoiled (complete line ups):

SPOILER

ifu vs lrm
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cryoc vs sziky
scan vs trutacz
tama vs technics
must vs wallace
marwin vs bonyth
eonzerg vs freman
scan vs sziky


lagfree vs iwl
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zety vs biggus
gundan vs sacred
handy vs ace
wapool vs artanis
castro vs fenito
dandy vs justice
zety vs ace


Need a light?
Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
December 15 2013 15:42 GMT
#548
On December 15 2013 03:52 Game wrote:
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I'd like to re-launch a formal complaint against Scan.

1. Scan has only shown for one CW, and clearly joined to snipe LRM).
2. Scan didn't move to America (grew up with professional BW in Korea) until he was nearly a teenager.
3. Scan plays in professional Korean leagues.
4. Scan only speaks Korean on his stream.
5. Scan is the most famous cheater that still plays BW.

These are my points, as this is formal.

- LRM)Game


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Harder to rigged a league without admin acces ? Well i'm sure you will manage something one way or another.

On a side note, all your points are actually wrong.

Keep going, you will succed having Scan banned, and will rip-off another league.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
December 15 2013 16:02 GMT
#549
On December 16 2013 00:42 Myujinsan wrote:
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On December 15 2013 03:52 Game wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to re-launch a formal complaint against Scan.

1. Scan has only shown for one CW, and clearly joined to snipe LRM).
2. Scan didn't move to America (grew up with professional BW in Korea) until he was nearly a teenager.
3. Scan plays in professional Korean leagues.
4. Scan only speaks Korean on his stream.
5. Scan is the most famous cheater that still plays BW.

These are my points, as this is formal.

- LRM)Game


+ Show Spoiler +

Harder to rigged a league without admin acces ? Well i'm sure you will manage something one way or another.

On a side note, all your points are actually wrong.

Keep going, you will succed having Scan banned, and will rip-off another league.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hi Scan stream MOD!
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
December 15 2013 16:05 GMT
#550
On December 16 2013 01:02 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 00:42 Myujinsan wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:52 Game wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to re-launch a formal complaint against Scan.

1. Scan has only shown for one CW, and clearly joined to snipe LRM).
2. Scan didn't move to America (grew up with professional BW in Korea) until he was nearly a teenager.
3. Scan plays in professional Korean leagues.
4. Scan only speaks Korean on his stream.
5. Scan is the most famous cheater that still plays BW.

These are my points, as this is formal.

- LRM)Game


+ Show Spoiler +

Harder to rigged a league without admin acces ? Well i'm sure you will manage something one way or another.

On a side note, all your points are actually wrong.

Keep going, you will succed having Scan banned, and will rip-off another league.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hi Scan stream MOD!

+ Show Spoiler +

Another time you got wrong =/ only stream of scan i watched recently was thoses on chinese stream.
Take care to not make an habit of it.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
December 15 2013 16:07 GMT
#551
On December 16 2013 01:05 Myujinsan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 01:02 Game wrote:
On December 16 2013 00:42 Myujinsan wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:52 Game wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to re-launch a formal complaint against Scan.

1. Scan has only shown for one CW, and clearly joined to snipe LRM).
2. Scan didn't move to America (grew up with professional BW in Korea) until he was nearly a teenager.
3. Scan plays in professional Korean leagues.
4. Scan only speaks Korean on his stream.
5. Scan is the most famous cheater that still plays BW.

These are my points, as this is formal.

- LRM)Game


+ Show Spoiler +

Harder to rigged a league without admin acces ? Well i'm sure you will manage something one way or another.

On a side note, all your points are actually wrong.

Keep going, you will succed having Scan banned, and will rip-off another league.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hi Scan stream MOD!

+ Show Spoiler +

Another time you got wrong =/ only stream of scan i watched recently was thoses on chinese stream.
Take care to not make an habit of it.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think I got what your message meant. Thus, I counter with Hi iCCup admin and Scan MOD!
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 16:38:02
December 15 2013 16:36 GMT
#552
On December 16 2013 01:07 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 01:05 Myujinsan wrote:
On December 16 2013 01:02 Game wrote:
On December 16 2013 00:42 Myujinsan wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:52 Game wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to re-launch a formal complaint against Scan.

1. Scan has only shown for one CW, and clearly joined to snipe LRM).
2. Scan didn't move to America (grew up with professional BW in Korea) until he was nearly a teenager.
3. Scan plays in professional Korean leagues.
4. Scan only speaks Korean on his stream.
5. Scan is the most famous cheater that still plays BW.

These are my points, as this is formal.

- LRM)Game


+ Show Spoiler +

Harder to rigged a league without admin acces ? Well i'm sure you will manage something one way or another.

On a side note, all your points are actually wrong.

Keep going, you will succed having Scan banned, and will rip-off another league.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hi Scan stream MOD!

+ Show Spoiler +

Another time you got wrong =/ only stream of scan i watched recently was thoses on chinese stream.
Take care to not make an habit of it.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think I got what your message meant. Thus, I counter with Hi iCCup admin and Scan MOD!


Ugh. To follow your, for the lack of a better word, scheme:

I'd launch a formal request. Ban LRM)Game. He's a convicted cheater. He still flames, tries to force his will over everyone who does not agree with him, gives his clan the worst possible reputation and furthermore, his pure presence is an insult to the people he cheated and scammed in the past two years - this includes his clan, members of the former SJ/Team Noobs, sas, the ICCup administration and other players who pariticipated in either BWCL or ICCupCL.
itsajoke
Profile Joined December 2013
Belgium1 Post
December 15 2013 17:20 GMT
#553
So, a player can play in a professional Korean league AND play in this tournament as long as he has a citizenship other than Korean?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/17th_SOSPA_Ranking_Tournament

Call it racism, call it discrimination, call it whatever you will... The SBWI has lost all credibility with this. It's clear that skill isn't a factor in the decision to ban professional gamers anymore, but Nationality... The majority of the Korean population is worse than Scan if he's good enough to play in SOSPA events.

User was banned for this post.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 15 2013 17:26 GMT
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Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
December 15 2013 18:01 GMT
#555
game always crying about something i didnt hear any complaining when he was lrm)scan ... just pay more for better players and stop q.q
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
December 15 2013 18:29 GMT
#556
wowowow so sziky beat scan in ace match? sick! can't wait for the cast!

oh, wait... there wouldn't be a single new post here if that was the case.


today we managed to preplay fengzi's set for next week's psb vs sas. it's pretty cool. birdie had to stay up till like 3am and we needed someone who could play 10pm CN time on #Lperuleague but it all worked out : ))))
yeah i know, he probably won't play ace match if needed, but our karma is infinitely better
life is balanced, L2P
Croweded
Profile Joined December 2013
2 Posts
December 16 2013 14:10 GMT
#557
Doesn't Scan playing in these events conflict with rule 14? Since he is also playing in Korean Pro events nowadays?

User was banned for this post.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
December 16 2013 15:19 GMT
#558
classic game drama <3
ace hwaiting!!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 16 2013 17:08 GMT
#559
CONSPIRACYYY

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#StopScan2013
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria492 Posts
December 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#560
So much hatred in this thread, I don't understand. Also I don't understand why Croweded was banned for his post when the only thing he really did is to ask a reasonable question without flaming or offending anybody ? I seriously hope Gecko and Game get along, because they both did a lot for foreign BW, it's useless to fight about little things.
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