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FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
September 30 2013 21:04 GMT
#21
bisuuuuuuuu. on a different note, I really hope flash doesn't retire soon. He was soooooooo close to making ro8 this GSL he still has so potential to improve
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
September 30 2013 21:05 GMT
#22
Welcome back

SC2 does not deserve you. Hope to see you in SSL soon~

If I could give you balloons, I would
T P Z sagi
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 30 2013 21:05 GMT
#23
But Proleague rapidly loses fandom after transitioning into SC2. After less than a month, there were only half the fans coming to watch the games.

"Not only me, the other players felt this too. Seeing the emply stadium, the motives of playing just isn't there anymore. Without an audience in sight, we lose our meaning to play the matches."

A lot of people, including Bisu, were surprised by the declining of viewership. At first Bisu thought fans might come back slowly, but one day he realized they left for good. The players with the most fans like him, knows about this feeling more than anyone.

"Fans are leaving, what's the meaning of me stay here to play? I feel hollow in my heart, a feeling I never had during Brood War times, being a pro-gamer no longer ignites the fire in my heart."

Bisu came up with the thought of retiring near the end of the the season. He finally realized, the support of fans is what keeps him continuing his career.


Pretty painful to read that.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
September 30 2013 21:06 GMT
#24
Nowadays retirement is a good news for the BW fans, but it is sad to see great players suffering for not showing good results in a game they don't like, just as bisu did. I was so happy to see Bisu stream, his games against Sea were very good and even Sea was impressed for how hard it was to play against a rusty Bisu. I hope him the best and hope to see him in a SSL in the future.
JD is BONJWA!
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
September 30 2013 21:09 GMT
#25
wow this interview is so emotional T__T it's to see one of the biggest legend talk for real...
twitter@RickyMarou
kugel
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
September 30 2013 21:10 GMT
#26
dat moment his speedlots ran over flahs base after flash destroyed his core ... tears of joy :-(
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#27
On October 01 2013 05:41 StarStruck wrote:
He sure doesn't disappoint in BW if you caught some of his games today it looked like he didn't miss a step. Who's going to hydra bust you now Bisu?

Shine.
All day every day.
HOLY CHECK!
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
September 30 2013 21:36 GMT
#28
I cant say I was his biggest fan but still...a true mastermind and champion signing off into amateur... It's rly sad how time is going by...

thank you bisu for all those memories...

OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 30 2013 21:43 GMT
#29
If you dont like a game, retirement ist the right decision.
Total Annihilation Zero
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 30 2013 21:46 GMT
#30
On October 01 2013 06:12 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 05:41 StarStruck wrote:
He sure doesn't disappoint in BW if you caught some of his games today it looked like he didn't miss a step. Who's going to hydra bust you now Bisu?

Shine.
All day every day.

And hero ;D
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TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
September 30 2013 21:47 GMT
#31
On October 01 2013 06:05 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
But Proleague rapidly loses fandom after transitioning into SC2. After less than a month, there were only half the fans coming to watch the games.

"Not only me, the other players felt this too. Seeing the emply stadium, the motives of playing just isn't there anymore. Without an audience in sight, we lose our meaning to play the matches."

A lot of people, including Bisu, were surprised by the declining of viewership. At first Bisu thought fans might come back slowly, but one day he realized they left for good. The players with the most fans like him, knows about this feeling more than anyone.

"Fans are leaving, what's the meaning of me stay here to play? I feel hollow in my heart, a feeling I never had during Brood War times, being a pro-gamer no longer ignites the fire in my heart."

Bisu came up with the thought of retiring near the end of the the season. He finally realized, the support of fans is what keeps him continuing his career.


Pretty painful to read that.

It sure is. Watching the half empty stadium and how cameraman was trying to not show that during last Proleague season was painful as well.
If nothing changes (and I don't see why would it), we'll see some major changes very soon. There's no room for both GSL/GSTL and Proleague in Korean SC2 scene atm, it's way too small.
---

Never was a huge fan as well, but still sad to see it ends like that for him. Maybe he should've retired during SC2 switch, as a great BW player, rather than torturing himself with the game he didn't liked for so long.
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
September 30 2013 21:48 GMT
#32
This left me rather sad and depressed
Currently working with Team Acer CSGO | @AcerNervO
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 30 2013 21:55 GMT
#33
Bisu is far too handsome.
On a side note, his retirement still doesn't feel real to me.
panzercrusher
Profile Joined April 2013
Poland457 Posts
September 30 2013 21:58 GMT
#34
Flash is carrying heavy burden... damn this is sad interview for me. But on the other hand Bisu started to stream regularly
I never asked for this
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
September 30 2013 22:01 GMT
#35
I suppose on the upside we get to watch him play BW again!
RIP MBC Game Hero
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 22:03:19
September 30 2013 22:01 GMT
#36
On October 01 2013 06:47 TJ31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 06:05 Gamegene wrote:
But Proleague rapidly loses fandom after transitioning into SC2. After less than a month, there were only half the fans coming to watch the games.

"Not only me, the other players felt this too. Seeing the emply stadium, the motives of playing just isn't there anymore. Without an audience in sight, we lose our meaning to play the matches."

A lot of people, including Bisu, were surprised by the declining of viewership. At first Bisu thought fans might come back slowly, but one day he realized they left for good. The players with the most fans like him, knows about this feeling more than anyone.

"Fans are leaving, what's the meaning of me stay here to play? I feel hollow in my heart, a feeling I never had during Brood War times, being a pro-gamer no longer ignites the fire in my heart."

Bisu came up with the thought of retiring near the end of the the season. He finally realized, the support of fans is what keeps him continuing his career.


Pretty painful to read that.

It sure is. Watching the half empty stadium and how cameraman was trying to not show that during last Proleague season was painful as well.
If nothing changes (and I don't see why would it), we'll see some major changes very soon. There's no room for both GSL/GSTL and Proleague in Korean SC2 scene atm, it's way too small.
---

Never was a huge fan as well, but still sad to see it ends like that for him. Maybe he should've retired during SC2 switch, as a great BW player, rather than torturing himself with the game he didn't liked for so long.

While I don't disagree, most of these players continue for their fans. I'm pretty sure that Flash is playing SCII more for the fans than himself at this point. Jaedong, well, hard to say since he's had some success. Stork is probably in the same position as Flash even though he finally made it through code A qualifiers.

Good interview overall but that comment about the empty audience is so sad to read If Flash doesn't make the RO8 next time and Stork falls out to Yoda in his code A match, then I wouldn't be surprised if you read about them both retiring sooner than later. Jaedong is probably gonna stay since he's doing ok so far lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
September 30 2013 22:02 GMT
#37
Bisu, we love you. Even though you didn't become a protoss SC2 powerhouse, we still love you. I hope you are happier now that you don't hold the burden of expectations on you. <3

I hope Flash and Stork don't retire from SC2, but if they do, I'm gonna have to start watching SSL.
XupinatoR
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain125 Posts
September 30 2013 22:03 GMT
#38
Pf, I felt so bad reading this interview TT
But as others say, on the upside we can see him streaming BW, i would have killed for this years ago xD...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D41Re9_AqL0
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
September 30 2013 22:10 GMT
#39
On October 01 2013 07:02 Vanadium wrote:
Bisu, we love you. Even though you didn't become a protoss SC2 powerhouse, we still love you. I hope you are happier now that you don't hold the burden of expectations on you. <3

I hope Flash and Stork don't retire from SC2, but if they do, I'm gonna have to start watching SSL.


Give it a few months... 3 at best.
Dead game.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 30 2013 22:11 GMT
#40
After recovering a bit he might consider playing in SSL.


Looks like Killer needs to sharpen his ZvP a whole lot more
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
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