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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10281 Posts
March 19 2024 18:35 GMT
#9081
It's basically gambling, like in Poker D. Gambling is addictive.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-20 14:56:59
March 19 2024 22:31 GMT
#9082
lol, so it's actually about rolling good unit spawns, jeez. Thought there must be more to it, like picking specific units or upgrade-routes.

I just don't get how people can fall for anything gambling related but I guess I should consider myself lucky not feeling the slightest urge to "But what if I win?".
I mean here it's just a game and they get actually paid for streaming this but rl gambling addiction sounds horrible.

My 1337. post btw, wow, I'm cool now
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6810 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 23:24:02
March 19 2024 23:23 GMT
#9083
On March 20 2024 03:22 DiMiaN wrote:
I was addicted to that UMS map until I finally beat it. The older version that they are playing is harder than the newer version. Its just about 100% luck and if you get a good special unit in the beginning you go far. Goons and ghosts are the best units.
[image loading]


i still grind the old version from time to time. The last time i tried i got 3 special hydras and still loss in the fcking last lvl. Looks like you need lockdown and emp to beat it combined with the most powerful hydras ? FCK FCK FCK FCK im ashamed to tell how many hours i spent on it 1 year ago LMAO.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-20 00:30:26
March 20 2024 00:30 GMT
#9084
One of the reasons must be sponsorship. They get lots of money from fans for...suffering from that map. Here's the famous picture of Bisu last year when he was addicted to it:

[image loading]


And he's now addicted to it again, and JD has joined too. Funny thing is Bisu's performance in actual BW is getting better.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
March 20 2024 14:05 GMT
#9085
effort vs forGG - ladder game

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
March 20 2024 14:08 GMT
#9086
On March 20 2024 09:30 TMNT wrote:
One of the reasons must be sponsorship. They get lots of money from fans for...suffering from that map. Here's the famous picture of Bisu last year when he was addicted to it:

[image loading]


And he's now addicted to it again, and JD has joined too. Funny thing is Bisu's performance in actual BW is getting better.

Haaa! JD was playing this game earlier this day
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
March 20 2024 20:25 GMT
#9087
Last is getting insane number of views on his youtube clips

He trolls his opponents left and right

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-23 11:46:08
March 23 2024 11:13 GMT
#9088
Calm , Jaedong and action are togheter !

They play vs a strong terran - Jeontaeyang (or something like this)..

I wonder who is he... they are losing ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10281 Posts
March 23 2024 17:24 GMT
#9089
On March 23 2024 20:13 prosatan wrote:
Calm , Jaedong and Action are togheter !

They play vs a strong terran - Jeontaeyang (or something like this)..

I wonder WhO is he... they are losing ...

Possibly (Wiki)BaBy? Aka TY?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1115 Posts
March 24 2024 11:23 GMT
#9090
On March 23 2024 20:13 prosatan wrote:
Calm , Jaedong and action are togheter !

They play vs a strong terran - Jeontaeyang (or something like this)..

I wonder who is he... they are losing ...

Jeontaeyang is TY/Baby. people should know by now cuz he played on that name in ASL
JDON MY SOUL!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
March 24 2024 12:39 GMT
#9091
Thank you both for the answers !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
March 24 2024 12:41 GMT
#9092
Britney is with Calm and some beautiful ladies! They have over 65k viewers ....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
March 25 2024 01:58 GMT
#9093
On March 21 2024 05:25 prosatan wrote:
Last is getting insane number of views on his youtube clips

He trolls his opponents left and right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL-iC9yeWr8

Last would have many ASLs if he didn't suffer from injury. He was the serious successor to the Terran throne.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
FinsT
Profile Joined March 2024
32 Posts
March 26 2024 07:26 GMT
#9094
On March 20 2024 07:31 Highgamer wrote:...
I just don't get how people can fall for anything gambling related but I guess I should consider myself lucky not feeling the slightest urge to "But what if I win?".
I mean here it's just a game and they get actually paid for streaming this but rl gambling addiction sounds horrible.

My 1337. post btw, wow, I'm cool now

With you about not feeling a slightest urge. I tried - just feels silly, to me. Maybe they just wasn't taught probability theory in colledge or something... %)

P.S. Grats on becoming proper leet! Indeed, the number's no small feat!! :D
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8161 Posts
March 28 2024 17:34 GMT
#9095
Without spoiling this ASL, you can look at how the top 6-7 protoss are doing relatively well (all 7 that qualified for Ro24 of this ASL: mini, best, bisu, snow, rain, shuttle, stork). Especially the top 4 players of that group. But are any protoss players doing good outside of that group? Every season I keep hoping someone like Mighty, Paralyze, or YSC might start taking off but it never happens . Who fills out the top 10 protoss on ELO rankings?
Free Palestine
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-29 21:55:41
March 29 2024 21:13 GMT
#9096
How do the Afreeca-streamers legally play music on stream? Given that this is such a hot topic on Twitch with YMCA DMCA-bans etc.
Is there some kind of general deal going on by which they're allowed to play certified music as long as they're using a certain app they pay for?

Thx in advance.

Posting this question here in my usual turf because I was too scared to wander off into the "Korean Music Discussion"-section with this. (The section-guidlines there make me feel like I'm not enough of a KPop-connaisseur to post there ).
cheesehuehue
Profile Joined March 2024
Vatican City State90 Posts
April 01 2024 18:37 GMT
#9097
Snow and Soulkey have played a total of 18 games just in the last two days. Is it normal for two players to practice so much with each other knowing that they might face each other soon in ASL? Wouldn't it make more sense to practice with someone else right now? Unless it's part of a tournament and I missed it.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
April 01 2024 19:25 GMT
#9098
On April 02 2024 03:37 cheesehuehue wrote:
Snow and Soulkey have played a total of 18 games just in the last two days. Is it normal for two players to practice so much with each other knowing that they might face each other soon in ASL? Wouldn't it make more sense to practice with someone else right now? Unless it's part of a tournament and I missed it.

They are sponsored games from China. Best and Light also did 18 games recently. They probably got a hefty sum from the sponsor so no reasons not to do it lol. It's not like they didn't play each other plenty of times before in Proleague or can't study each other's VODs.

Btw,
+ Show Spoiler +
Snow won 5-4 yesterday but lost 3-6 today, but both days he went 2-4 down in the first place. That should tell you how the series would end if they play each other in the semi.
cheesehuehue
Profile Joined March 2024
Vatican City State90 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-01 21:13:03
April 01 2024 20:00 GMT
#9099
On April 02 2024 04:25 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2024 03:37 cheesehuehue wrote:
Snow and Soulkey have played a total of 18 games just in the last two days. Is it normal for two players to practice so much with each other knowing that they might face each other soon in ASL? Wouldn't it make more sense to practice with someone else right now? Unless it's part of a tournament and I missed it.

They are sponsored games from China. Best and Light also did 18 games recently. They probably got a hefty sum from the sponsor so no reasons not to do it lol. It's not like they didn't play each other plenty of times before in Proleague or can't study each other's VODs.



Thank you for the info. Although, I've got to say I don't know why nor how you always manage to sound condescending. My question clearly stemmed from the fact that I didn't know that the games were sponsored from China. After explaining that the games were in fact sponsored, the question had been answered, and it was clear that the 18 games in a row were not purely practice for ASL, so your additional remarks were unnecessary and not necessarily in line with what SK and Snow think --they could agree with your logic, but we don't know nor does it matter, there was already an explanation for why they played 18 games in a row.


+ Show Spoiler +
Snow won 5-4 yesterday but lost 3-6 today, but both days he went 2-4 down in the first place. That should tell you how the series would end if they play each other in the semi.

This is not true. We cannot conclude anything from the observation you have made (that the score for the first 6 games was 2-4 for both series). You are cherry-picking a specific number of games (which by the way is not odd e.g. bo3,5,7,9) to support a conclusion you want to push forward. That is fallacious. There is no reason to assume that the underlying data-generating distribution tends to generate a combination of wins-losses sequences that would sum up to 2-4 wins/losses in the first 6 games. There's no evidence for that, other than a coincidence found by cherry-picking.

Cherry-picking (from wikipedia):
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally.


Cheers.

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
April 02 2024 08:02 GMT
#9100
On April 02 2024 05:00 cheesehuehue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2024 04:25 TMNT wrote:
On April 02 2024 03:37 cheesehuehue wrote:
Snow and Soulkey have played a total of 18 games just in the last two days. Is it normal for two players to practice so much with each other knowing that they might face each other soon in ASL? Wouldn't it make more sense to practice with someone else right now? Unless it's part of a tournament and I missed it.

They are sponsored games from China. Best and Light also did 18 games recently. They probably got a hefty sum from the sponsor so no reasons not to do it lol. It's not like they didn't play each other plenty of times before in Proleague or can't study each other's VODs.



Thank you for the info. Although, I've got to say I don't know why nor how you always manage to sound condescending. My question clearly stemmed from the fact that I didn't know that the games were sponsored from China. After explaining that the games were in fact sponsored, the question had been answered, and it was clear that the 18 games in a row were not purely practice for ASL, so your additional remarks were unnecessary and not necessarily in line with what SK and Snow think --they could agree with your logic, but we don't know nor does it matter, there was already an explanation for why they played 18 games in a row.

Show nested quote +

+ Show Spoiler +
Snow won 5-4 yesterday but lost 3-6 today, but both days he went 2-4 down in the first place. That should tell you how the series would end if they play each other in the semi.

This is not true. We cannot conclude anything from the observation you have made (that the score for the first 6 games was 2-4 for both series). You are cherry-picking a specific number of games (which by the way is not odd e.g. bo3,5,7,9) to support a conclusion you want to push forward. That is fallacious. There is no reason to assume that the underlying data-generating distribution tends to generate a combination of wins-losses sequences that would sum up to 2-4 wins/losses in the first 6 games. There's no evidence for that, other than a coincidence found by cherry-picking.

Cherry-picking (from wikipedia):
Show nested quote +
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally.


Cheers.


What the fuck is wrong with you?

It was an innocuous answer and innocuous prediction of a game that is not even guaranteed to happen. What part in my post was condescending that triggered you to quote wikipedia for such an act of hostility? Are we on a live or die mission to investigate their motivations to play these games?

Never seen anyone saying "player A have been beating player B recently, so he's going to continue to do that in the next series". Or will you have to jump in and give a lecture of logical fallacy every time? It's not like I said "you are stupid if you don't think the results will be like that" huh?

By the way are you Smorrie's clone? Made an new account using his own words, agreed with each other, seems to support Zerg/Soulkey, seems to pop up to post in the forum around the same time, and clearly have a problem with me beforehand, hence your unjustified reaction to my previous post. I mean the "lol" in that post clearly is to laugh at the fact that the players get a lot of money for those games, not to laugh at you for not knowing it was Chinese sponsored (why would I do that???). So only a person who already holds a grudge against me will have that reaction.
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