Unofficial World Champion - BW Edition

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 27 2013 01:15 GMT

I don't know if any of you follow the SC2 forum, but if you do you might have noticed a topic about the so-called Unofficial World Championship. It's based on a similar concept in soccer/football - basically, the First "Unofficial World Champion" was the First team to win an international match (England vs. Scotland, of course), and every time another team after that beat the champion, they became the new champion. It works the same way in SC2 - the winner of the First GSL ( (Z)

FruitDealer) became the First champion, and any player to beat the champion in a series at a live, broadcasted tournament - there were some (mostly joking) splits created when the champion (Z)

Bear went a while without playing, but still pretty straightforward.
I was wondering, though, What would happen if you applied the same thing to BW? It may be a bit harder to track, as some of the data about long-ago tournaments (or whether they were broadcasted, etc.) might be missing, but it would still be fun to figure out who retired/left with the title, or even if it's still bouncing around SOSPA games... The Tooniverse Progamer Korea Open (i.e. the first OSL) seems like as good a place as any to Start. So, just to demonstrate, here's how the title would go based off just the data in TLPD...

12/30/99
(Z)

Freemura wins the Progamer Korea Open and is the first BW UWC.

+ Show Spoiler +

2/18/00

October defeats (Z)

Freemura at the 1st KGL.
6/25/00
(Z)

Bassy defeats (Z)

October at the 1st iTV Ranking League.
(Z)

SKELTON defeats (Z)

Bassy at the 1st iTV Ranking League.

7/02/00
(Z)

Freemura defeats (Z)

SKELTON at the 1st iTV Ranking League.
(T)

ChRh defeats (Z)

Freemura at the 1st iTV Ranking League.

8/06/00
(Z)

Bassy defeats (T)

ChRh at the 1st iTV Ranking League.

8/07/00
(Z)

ComBi defeats (Z)

Bassy at the Freechal OSL.

9/11/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

ComBi at Freechal OSL. [USA USA USA!]

9/25/00
(Z)

KIMWANCHUL defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Freechal OSL.

10/6/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

KIMWANCHUL at Freechal OSL.

10/9/00
(P)

[Oops]Season defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Freechal OSL.

10/16/00
(Z)

BaNulDoDuk defeats (P)

[Oops]Season at Freechal OSL.

10/24/00
(Z)

SKELTON defeats (Z)

BaNulDoDuk at Freechal OSL.

11/1/00
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (Z)

SKELTON at Freechal OSL

(P)

Grrrr... defeats (R) (P)

GARIMTO at OGN King of Kings.

12/11/00
(Z)

TheBOy defeats (P)

Grrrr... at OGN King of Kings.

12/28/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

TheBOy at OGN King of Kings

2/16/01
(Z)

JinNam defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Hanbitsoft OSL.

3/9/01
(Z)

JJUB defeats (Z)

JinNam at Hanbitsoft OSL.

3/16/01
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

JJUB at Hanbitsoft OSL.

(T)

Lee defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Hanbitsoft OSL.

6/15/01
(Z)

sigamari defeats (T)

Lee at Coca-Cola OSL

7/6/01
(Z)

JinNam defeats (T)

Lee at Coca-Cola OSL

7/20/01
(T)

Lee defeats (Z)

JinNam at Coca-Cola OSL

7/25/01
(Z)

JinNam defeats (T)

Lee at Coca-Cola OSL

7/29/01
(Z)

Side defeats (T)

Lee at 3rd iTV Ranking League

8/1/01
(Z)

TaewoO defeats (Z)

Side at 2001 KPGA August

8/24/01
(Z)

[z-zone]SoO defeats (Z)

TaewoO at 2001 KPGA August

9/12/01
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (Z)

[z-zone]SoO at 2001 KPGA September

10/23/01
(T)

TheMarine defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at iTV Hot Battle

10/26/01
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (T)

TheMarine at SKY2001 OSL

11/1/01
(T)

nO.1 defeats (P)

GARIMTO at 2001 KPGA November
(T)

TheMarine defeats (T)

nO.1 at 2001 KPGA November

11/21/01
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (T)

TheMarine at Lord of Best Race.

12/7/01
(T)

BoxeR defeats (P)

GARIMTO at SKY2001 OSL.

12/28/01
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (T)

BoxeR at SKY2001 OSL (in the finals).

1/18/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (P)

GARIMTO at KT King of Kings

1/24/02
(Z)

MuMyung defeats (Z)

YellOw at 2001-2002 KPGA Winners Championship

2/14/02
(T)

Oddysay defeauts (Z)

MuMyung at KPGA 1st Tour.

2/28/02
(P)

IntoTheRain defeats (T)

Oddysay at KPGA 1st Tour.

3/14/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (P)

IntoTheRain at 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague

3/21/02
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

YellOw at 2002-2003 iTV Rivals League

3/31/02
(Z)

JinSu defeats (T)

NaDa at 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League

4/7/02
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

JinSu at 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League
(Z)

Side defeats (T)

XellOs at 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League

4/11/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

Side at 2002-2003 iTV Rivals League

4/12/02
(Z)

Eugene defeats (Z)

YellOw at NATE OSL

4/30/02
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

Eugene at 2001-2002 Lord of the Best Race Competition

5/1/02
(P)

Zeus defeats (T)

NaDa at 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague

5/15/02
(T)

Oddysay defeats (P)

Zeus at 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague

5/17/02
(T)

ChRh defeats (T)

Oddysay at NATE OSL

5/23/02
(T)

BoxeR defeats (T)

ChRh at 2002-2003 iTV Rivals League

6/21/02
(T)

V-Gundam defeats (T)

BoxeR at 2002 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament

7/19/02
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (T)

V-Gundam at SKY2002 OSL

7/30/02
(T)

BoxeR defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at 2002 Infinity Best Race Competition

8/1/02
(T)

JoyO defeats (T)

BoxeR at 2002 2nd GhemTV StarLeague

8/15/02
(Z)

KIMWANCHUL defeats (T)

JoyO at 2002 2nd GhemTV StarLeague

8/22/02
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (Z)

KIMWANCHUL at 2002 2nd GhemTV StarLeague

8/23/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at SKY2002 OSL

9/5/02
(P)

Reach defeats (Z)

YellOw at KPGA 3rd Tour

10/5/02
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

Reach at KPGA 3rd Tour

10/6/02
(P)

fOru defeats (T)

NaDa at 5th iTV Ranking League
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (P)

fOru at 5th iTV Ranking League

10/15/02
(T)

kOs defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at KPGA 4th Tour

11/12/02
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (T)

kOs at KPGA 4th Tour

12/6/02
(T)

ElkY defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at Panasonic OSL

12/27/02
(T)

BoxeR defeats (T)

ElkY at Panasonic OSL

12/29/02
(Z)

Enough defeats (T)

BoxeR at 5th iTV Ranking League

1/5/03
(P)

fOru defeats (Z)

Enough at 5th iTV Ranking League
(Z)

JunioR defeats (P)

fOru at 5th iTV Ranking League

1/12/03
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

JunioR at 5th iTV Ranking League

1/15/03
(T)

Oddysay defeats (T)

NaDa at 2003 1st GhemTV StarLeague

1/21/03
(Z)

TheWinD defeats (T)

Oddysay at 2002 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

TheWinD at 2002 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament

1/28/03
(P)

Nazgul defeats (T)

XellOs at 2003 KPGA Team League Pre-Season

3/4/03
(T)

Classic_NT defeats (P)

Nazgul at OCL2003-1
(T)

Spoon defeats (T)

Classic_NT at OCL2003-1

4/8/03
(Z)

Side defeats (T)

Spoon at OCL2003-1

7/10/03
(P)

Nal_rA defeats (Z)

Side at 2003 iTV Rivals

8/29/03
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

Nal_rA at MyCube OSL

9/12/03
(Z)

YellOw defeats (T)

NaDa at MyCube OSL

9/19/03
(Z)

Junwi defeats (Z)

YellOw at MyCube OSL

10/3/03
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

Junwi at MyCube OSL

10/26/03
(P)

Kingdom defeats (T)

XellOs at 2003-2004 KTF Bigi Premier League(1st)

11/2/03
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (P)

Kingdom at 2003-2004 KTF Bigi Premier League(1st)

11/23/03
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at 2003-2004 KTF Bigi Premier League(1st)

12/6/03
(P)

RainBOw defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at pmang Proleague

12/12/03
(Z)

Junwi defeats (P)

RainBOw at NHN OSL

1/9/04
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

Junwi at NHN OSL

1/30/04
(P)

Reach defeats (T)

NaDa at NHN OSL

2/6/04
(P)

Zeus defeats (P)

Reach at NHN OSL

3/21/04
(P)

Nal_rA defeats (P)

Zeus at NHN OSL

4/16/04
(Z)

JJu defeats (P)

Nal_rA at Gillette Pre-Season

4/29/04
(P)

GGon defeats (Z)

JJu at 7th iTV Ranking League

5/15/04
(Z)

SiR@SoNi defeats (P)

GGon at SKY2004 Proleague R1

6/1/04
(P)

Autumn defeats (Z)

SiR@SoNi at G-Voice OCL

6/14/04
(T)

ChRh defeats (P)

Autumn at MBC Survivor 4th

6/28/04
(T)

Midas defeats (T)

ChRh at MBC Survivor 4th

8/10/04
(P)

RainBOw defeats (T)

Midas at Tuscon Team League
(T)

XellOs defeats (P)

RainBOw at Tuscon Team League

8/15/04
(T)

Midas defeats (T)

XellOs at WCG2004 Korea

8/27/04
(Z)

YellOw defeats (T)

Midas at EVER2004 OSL

9/24/04
(T)

Goodfriend defeats (Z)

YellOw at EVER2004 OSL

10/7/04
(Z)

][Min][Gu][ defeats (T)

Goodfriend at YATGK MSL

11/3/04
(T)

Gloomy defeats (Z)

][Min][Gu][ at GameTV Newcomers

11/17/04
(P)

Pusan defeats (T)

Gloomy at GameTV Newcomers

11/23/04
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

Pusan at MBCMovies Team League

12/11/04
(Z)

Qoo)Siva defeats (T)

NaDa at SKY2004 Proleague R3

1/15/05
(Z)

SiR@SoNi defeats (Z)

Qoo)Siva at SKY2004 Proleague R3

1/22/05
(T)

iloveoov defeats (Z)

SiR@SoNi at MBCMovies Team League

2/3/05
(P)

EJi defeats (T)

iloveoov at MBCMovies Team League

2/27/06
(Z)

bOy defeats (P)

EJi at 2006 Evaluation League

5/11/06
(T)

Memory defeats (Z)

bOy at 2006 Newcomer Evaluation Tournament

8/22/06
(T)

Hwasin defeats (T)

Memory at MBC Survivor 9th
free defeats (T)

Hwasin at MBC Survivor 9th

9/4/06
(P)

Anytime defeats free at SKY2006 Proleague R2

9/15/06
(T)

Midas defeats (P)

Anytime at Shinhan2006-2 OSL

9/16/06
(Z)

FruitDealer (!!!) defeats (T)

Midas at SKY2006 Proleague R2

9/24/06
(Z)

Jaedong defeats Fruitdelaer at SKY2006 Proleague R2

11/12/06
(Z)

Luxury defeats (Z)

Jaedong at SKY2006 Proleague R2

1/2/07
(T)

DarkElf defeats (Z)

Luxury at MBC Survivor 10th

2/12/07
(T)

Justin defeats (T)

DarkElf at MBC Survivor 10th

3/9/07
(P)

Stork defeats (T)

Justin at 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup
(P)

Chalrenge defeats (P)

Stork at 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup

4/15/07
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (P)

Chalrenge at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

4/29/07
(P)

Much defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

5/19/07
(P)

Stork defeats (P)

Much at GOMTV MSL S2

5/27/07
(T)

Leta defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

6/4/07
(P)

BestGod defeats (T)

Leta at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

8/11/07
(T)

DarkElf defeats (P)

BestGod at Seoul e-Sports Festival

8/12/07
(T)

Shine[Name] defeats (T)

DarkElf at Seoul e-Sports Festival
(T)

Memory defeats (T)

Shine[Name] at Seoul e-Sports Festival
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

Memory at Seoul e-Sports Festival

8/13/07
(Z)

July defeats (Z)

Jaedong at WCG2007 Korea
[was broadcast according to TL thread]

8/17/07
(P)

Stork defeats (Z)

July at WCG2007 Korea

8/19/07
(T)

Hwasin defeats (P)

Stork at WCG2007 Korea

9/28/07
(T)

Light defeats (T)

Hwasin at EVER2007 OSL

9/29/07
(P)

Rock defeats (T)

Hwasin at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/12/07
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Rock at EVER2007 OSL

10/14/07
(P)

Pusan defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/17/07
(P)

MuJuK defeats (P)

Pusan at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/24/07
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

MuJuK at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/26/07
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

NaDa at EVER2007 OSL

11/2/07
(P)

Stork defeats (Z)

Jaedong at EVER2007 OSL

11/11/07
(P)

Much defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

12/4/07
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Much at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

12/15/07
(Z)

Calm defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

12/23/07
(T)

DarkElf defeats (Z)

Calm at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

1/2/08
(T)

XellOs defeats (T)

DarkElf at ODT2007-3

1/7/08
(Z)

GoRush defeats (T)

XellOs at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

1/17/08
(T)

Light defeats (Z)

GoRush at GOMTV MSL S4
(T)

Shine[Name] defeats (T)

Light at GOMTV MSL S4

1/29/08 (???)
(T)

Mind defeats (T)

Shine[Name] at GOMTV MSL S4

2/17/08
(Z)

sAviOr defeats (T)

Mind at GOMTV Star Invitational
(P)

Anytime defeats (Z)

sAviOr at GOMTV Star Invitational

2/27/08
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Anytime at GOMTV Star Invitational

4/12/08
(T)

Canata defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan08 Proleague

4/27/08
(P)

Stork defeats (T)

Canata at Shinhan08 Proleague

4/30/08
(T)

HiyA defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan08 Proleague

5/24/08
(T)

Midas defeats (T)

HiyA at Shinhan08 Proleague

5/27/08
(Z)

815 defeats (T)

Midas at Shinhan08 Proleague

6/8/08
(P)

Spear defeats (Z)

815 at Shinhan08 Proleague

6/15/08
(T)

FrOzen defeats (P)

Spear at Shinhan08 Proleague

8/12/08
Best defeats (T)

FrOzen at STX Masters 2008

8/15/08
(T)

Sea defeats Best at STX Masters 2008

8/19/08
(Z)

Calm defeats (T)

Sea at STX Masters 2008

8/23/08
(T)

RuBy defeats (Z)

Calm at MBC Survivor 15th

10/4/08
(T)

Hwasin defeats (T)

RuBy at ClubDay MSL

10/16/08
(P)

Bisu defeats (T)

Hwasin at ClubDay MSL

11/17/08
free defeats (P)

Bisu at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

11/25/08
(T)

Flash defeats free at Shinhan08-09 Proleague
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/2/08
(Z)

RorO defeats (Z)

ZerO at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/6/08
(Z)

hyvaa defeats (Z)

RorO at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/24/08
(P)

Movie defeats (Z)

hyvaa at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/30/08
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Movie at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

1/4/09
(P)

Bisu defeats (T)

Flash at GOM Classic Season 2

1/9/09
(Z)

by.hero defeats (P)

Bisu at Batoo OSL

1/17/09
(Z)

YellOw[ArnC] defeats (Z)

by.hero at Lost Saga MSL

1/18/09
(P)

GuemChi defeats (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
(T)

Leta defeats (P)

GuemChi at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
free defeats (T)

Leta at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

1/21/09
(T)

Iris defeats free at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

1/31/09
(P)

JangBi defeats (T)

Iris at Lost Saga MSL

2/1/09
(Z)

keke defeats (P)

JangBi at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/10/09
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (Z)

keke at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/17/09
(P)

Jila defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/18/09
(Z)

Luxury defeats (P)

Jila at Batoo OSL

2/21/09
(T)

Light defeats (Z)

Luxury at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
(T)

Flash defeats (T)

Light at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/24/09
(T)

PianO defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

3/1/09
(T)

NaDa defeats (T)

PianO at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
free defeats (T)

NaDa at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

3/8/09
(Z)

July defeats free at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

4/21/09
(T)

Sea defeats (Z)

July at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/3/09
(Z)

RorO defeats (T)

Sea at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/6/09
(T)

Casy defeats (Z)

RorO at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/12/09
(T)

firebathero defeats (T)

Casy at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/18/09
(P)

Violet defeats (T)

firebathero at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

6/9/09
(P)

GuemChi defeats (P)

Violet at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

6/28/09
(T)

FanTaSy defeats (P)

GuemChi at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

7/6/09
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (T)

FanTaSy at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

7/26/09
(P)

Stork defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan08-09 Proleague
(Z)

EffOrt defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan08-09 Proleague
(T)

Iris defeats (Z)

EffOrt at GOM Classic Season 3

8/1/09
(P)

PerfectMan defeats (T)

Iris at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

8/8/09
(P)

Bisu defeats (P)

PerfectMan at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

10/14/09
(Z)

Shine defeats (P)

Bisu at EVER2009 OSL

10/24/09
(T)

Light defeats (Z)

Shine [lol] at MBC Survivor 18th

10/26/09
(P)

Pure defeats (T)

Light at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

11/08/09
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

Pure at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

11/23/09
(Z)

EffOrt defeats (Z)

ZerO at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

11/27/09
(Z)

Shine defeats (Z)

EffOrt at EVER2009 OSL

11/29/09
(Z)

Action defeats (Z)

Shine at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

12/07/09
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

Action at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

12/12/09
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

YellOw at IeSF Star Invitational

12/28/09
(Z)

YellOw defeats (T)

NaDa at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

1/6/10
(Z)

Calm defeats (Z)

YellOw at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

1/19/10
(T)

Flash defeats (Z)

Calm at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

1/23/10
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

Flash at NATE MSL

1/26/10
(T)

Flash defeats (Z)

Jaedong at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

2/7/10
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan 2010 Winners League
(P)

Stats defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

3/7/10
(Z)

RorO defeats (P)

Stats at Shinhan 2010 Winners League
(T)

Flash defeats (Z)

RorO at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

3/13/10
(T)

Leta defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

3/16/10
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

Leta at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

4/1/10
(T)

TY defeats (Z)

Jaedong at Hana Daetoo MSL

4/15/10
(T)

Mvp defeats (T)

TY at Hana Daetoo MSL

4/28/10
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (T)

Mvp at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

5/8/10
(Z)

s2 defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

6/10/10
(P)

Stork defeats (Z)

s2 at MBC Survivor 20th
(T)

Sea defeats (P)

Stork at MBC Survivor 20th

6/14/10
(P)

Flying defeats (T)

Sea at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

6/26/10

NaDa defeats (P)

Flying at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

NaDa is the all-time champion of professional Brood War!

1/14/13
(P)

Movie defeats (T)

NaDa at King of the Hill
(Z)

Larva defeats (P)

Movie at ' '

+ Show Spoiler +

1/16/13
(P) (P)

Perry defeats (Z) (Z)

Larva at Sonic All-Stars Team League

1/17/13
(T) (T)

Mong defeats (P) (P)

Perry at ' '

1/25/13
(T) (T)

HiyA defeats (T) (T)

Mong at 12th Ranking Tournament

1/30/13
(P) (P)

Movie defeats (T) (T)

HiyA at ' '

2/8/13
(P) (P)

Shuttle defeats (P) (P)

Movie at New Year's Super Match

2/19/13
(P) (P)

Movie defeats (P) (P)

Shuttle at 8th SSL Seeding Match

2/22/13
(T) (T)

Sea defeats (P) (P)

Movie at King of the Hill
(P) (P)

ErOs_Lucifer defeats (T) (T)

Sea at ' '
(Z) (Z)

ZeLoT defeats (P) (P)

ErOs_Lucifer at ' '
(T) (T)

HiyA defeats (Z) (Z)

ZeLoT at ' '

3/8/13
(Z) (Z)

Cola defeats (T) (T)

HiyA at itemBay 8th SSL
(T) (T)

sSak defeats (Z) (Z)

Cola at ' '

3/27/13
(P) (P)

Tyson defeats (T) (T)

sSak at 1st Race Wars
(T) (T)

HiyA defeats (P) (P)

Tyson at ' '

4/4/13
(Z) (Z)

Killer defeats (T) (T)

HiyA at ' '

4/9/13
(T) (T)

HiyA defeats (Z) (Z)

Killer at ' '

4/11/13
(T) (T)

Mong defeats (T) (T)

HiyA at Sonic Star Team Battle

4/16/13
(P) (P)

Shuttle defeats (T) (T)

Mong at ' '

4/19/13
(Z) (Z)

Killer defeats (P) (P)

Shuttle at April 17th-19th Super Match
(T) (T)

Sea defeats (Z) (Z)

Killer at ' '

5/3/13
(P) (P)

Shuttle defeats (T) (T)

Sea at Sonic vs Bay Team Battle

5/10/13
(T) (T)

Notice defeats (P) (P)

Shuttle at King of the Hill
(Z) (Z)

BJ Sonic defeats (T) (T)

Notice at ' '

6/13/13
(P) (P)

Olympus defeats (Z) (Z)

BJ Sonic at ' '

7/26/13
(P) (P)

Tyson defeats (P) (P)

Olympus at 15th Ranking Tournament
(T) (T)

Sea defeats (P) (P)

Tyson at ' '

10/4/13
(T) (T)

HiyA defeats (T) (T)

Sea at 17th Ranking Tournament

10/11/13
(T) (T)

Sea defeats (T) (T)

HiyA at ' '

10/22/13
(P) (P)

Shuttle defeats (T) (T)

Sea at 18th Ranking Tournament

11/5/13
(Z) (Z)

Cola defeats (P) (P)

Shuttle at 1st KotH Proleague
(P) (P)

Britney defeats (Z) (Z)

Cola at ' '
(T) (T)

Mong defeats (P) (P)

Britney at ' '
(Z) (Z)

by.hero defeats (T) (T)

Mong at ' '

11/6/13
(Z) (Z)

beast defeats (Z) (Z)

by.hero at ' '

11/7/13
(T) (T)

LearN..1023 defeats (Z) (Z)

beast at ' '
(Z) (Z)

Killer defeats (T) (T)

LearN..1023 at ' '
(T) (T)

Shinee defeats (Z) (Z)

Killer at ' '
(T) (T)

HiyA defeats (T) (T)

Shinee at ' '

11/8/13
(T) (T)

sSak defeats (T) (T)

HiyA at ' '

11/19/13
(P) (P)

Mini defeats (T) (T)

sSak at ' '
(P) (P)

Bisu defeats (P) (P)

Mini at ' '
(Z) (Z)

by.hero defeats (P) (P)

Bisu at ' '

11/21/13
(T) (T)

Shinee defeats (Z) (Z)

by.hero at ' '

11/22/13
(Z) (Z)

beast defeats (T) (T)

Shinee at ' '
(P) (P)

Hi defeats (Z) (Z)

beast at ' '
(T) (T)

kkong defeats (P) (P)

Hi at ' '

11/26/13
(P) (P)

Hint defeats (T) (T)

kkong at ' '
(Z) (Z)

beast defeats (P) (P)

Hint at ' '
(Z) (Z)

ZergMaN defeats (Z) (Z)

beast at ' '
(P) (P)

Air defeats (Z) (Z)

ZergMaN at ' '
(Z) (Z)

ZerO defeats (P) (P)

Air at ' '
(Z) (Z)

Killer defeats (Z) (Z)

ZerO at ' '
(T) (T)

PianO defeats (Z) (Z)

Killer at ' '

11/27/13 [finally!]
(P) (P)

Pusan defeats (T) (T)

PianO at ' '

12/3/13
(P) (P)

Bisu defeats (P) (P)

Pusan at ' '
(P) (P)

Lazy defeats (P) (P)

Bisu at ' '

12/4/13
(P) (P)

Shuttle defeats (P) (P)

Lazy at ' '

12/17/13
(P) (P)

Movie defeats (P) (P)

Shuttle at ' '

12/18/13
(T) (T)

Mind defeats (P) (P)

Movie at ' '

12/23/13
(P) (P)

JangBi defeats (T) (T)

Mind at ' '
(Z) (Z)

Modesty defeats (P) (P)

JangBi at ' '
(Z) (Z)

ZerO defeats (Z) (Z)

Modesty at ' '

12/24/13
(T) (T)

Sea defeats (Z) (Z)

ZerO at ' '
(P) (P)

JangBi defeats (T) (T)

Sea at ' '
(P) (P)

Tyson defeats (P) (P)

JangBi at ' '
(P) (P)

Brave defeats (P) (P)

Tyson at ' '
(P) (P)

Lazy defeats (P) (P)

Brave at ' '

1/2/14
(T) (T)

PianO defeats (P) (P)

Lazy at ' '
(P) (P)

Tyson defeats (T) (T)

PianO at ' '

2/10/14
(T) (T)

sSak defeats (P) (P)

Tyson at Gabangpop 1st Sonic Proleague
(T) (T)

Sea defeats (T) (T)

sSak at ' '

3/17/14
free defeats (T) (T)

Sea at ' '
(P) (P)

Lazy defeats free at ' '
(Z) (Z)

ZerO defeats (P) (P)

Lazy at ' '

3/20/14
(T) (T)

Midas defeats (Z) (Z)

ZerO at 2nd LoveTV Starleague
(T) (T)

sSak defeats (T) (T)

Midas at ' '

3/26/14
(P) (P)

Zeus defeats (T) (T)

sSak at Gabangpop 1st Sonic Proleague
(P) (P)

Pure defeats (P) (P)

Zeus at ' '
(Z) (Z)

Cola defeats (P) (P)

Pure at ' '
(P) (P)

Bisu defeats (Z) (Z)

Cola at ' '

4/16/14
(Z) (Z)

Modesty defeats (P) (P)

Bisu at ' '
(Z) (Z)

Larva defeats (Z) (Z)

Modesty at ' '
(T) (T)

Mind defeats (Z) (Z)

Larva at ' '

6/25/14
(T) (T)

PianO defeats (T) (T)

Mind at SBENU Allstars

7/3/14
(T)

sSak defeats (T)

PianO at SBENU Allstars

8/17/14
(P)

Sky defeats (T)

sSak at 41 Starleague Season 2

8/29/14
(Z) (Z)

Killer defeats (P) (P)

Sky at ''

8/30/14
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

Killer at 41 Starleague Season 2

12/13/14
(T)

Sea defeats (T)

Mind at Ssabi Super Tour

1/3/15
(T)

PianO defeats (T)

Sea at Kongdoo Starz League

1/8/15
(P)

free defeats (T)

PianO at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague

1/15/15
(P)

JangBi defeats (P)

free at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague

1/25/15
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

JangBi at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague (tiebreakers)
(P)

free defeats (T)

Mind at ' '
(P)

JangBi defeats (P)

free at ' '
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

JangBi at ' '
(P)

free defeats (T)

Mind at ' '
(P)

JangBi defeats (P)

free at ' '
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

JangBi at ' '
(P)

free defeats (T)

Mind at ' '

1/29/15
(T)

Mong defeats (P)

free at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague

2/1/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Mong at Kongdoo Starz League

2/7/15
(Z)

Kwanro defeats (Z)

ZerO at Kongdoo Starz League

3/1/15
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

Kwanro at Kongdoo Starz League (finals)

3/8/15
(T)

Last defeats (T)

Mind at PianO Starleague

3/14/15
(P)

free defeats (T)

Last at PianO Starleague

3/15/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

free at PianO Starleague (finals, sort of)

3/16/15
(Z)

by.hero defeats (Z)

ZerO at HoSic Starleague S2

3/21/15
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

by.hero at HoSic Starleague S2

3/28/15
(P)

Bisu defeats (T)

Mind at Terror Starleague

7/15/15
(Z)

hero defeats (P)

Bisu at SSL 11

8/17/15
(P)

Jaehoon defeats (Z)

hero at Spotimes Starleague

9/7/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

Jaehoon at Spotimes Starleague

9/13/15
(Z)

EffOrt defeats (Z)

ZerO at Spotimes Starleague (finals)

10/8/15
(T)

Sea defeats (Z)

EffOrt at KDS Starleague S2

11/5/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Sea at Spicy Rice Cake S2

11/6/15
(T)

PianO defeats (Z)

ZerO at Spicy Rice Cake S2
(P)

Shuttle defeats (T)

PianO at Spicy Rice Cake S2

12/5/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

Shuttle at Spotimes Starleague 2

1/18/16

EffOrt defeats (Z)

ZerO at VANT Starleague

Current unofficial Brood War world champion: EffOrt

Next title defense: ???

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

May 27 2013 01:47 GMT

This seems interesting. You would need some sort of historical Brood War expert to trace the title though, and I'm definitely not it.

Cele

Germany4016 Posts

May 27 2013 02:50 GMT

haha this is great. unfortunetely i cant really contribute either to the early days :D

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19228 Posts

May 27 2013 02:54 GMT

We need Rekrul, that guy has to be 50 by now.

greatZERG

Australia755 Posts

May 27 2013 03:22 GMT

Wish I had the time to go through and work this out, someone should really get on it.

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

May 27 2013 03:33 GMT

My bet is on Jangbi.

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

May 27 2013 03:55 GMT

If it's too difficult to trace we can always go for the Savior -> Bisu "modern BW" transition since Savior pretty much beat the very best of his era.

hellokitty[hk]

United States1309 Posts

May 27 2013 04:08 GMT

Lets just say that it's JANGBANG.

blueblimp

Canada297 Posts

May 27 2013 04:09 GMT

This'd be pretty easy to compute automatically with programmatic access to TLPD.

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

May 27 2013 04:32 GMT

#10

On May 27 2013 13:09 blueblimp wrote:
This'd be pretty easy to compute automatically with programmatic access to TLPD.

TLPD is missing some entries unfortunately. Because of the way the UWC is generated a few missing entries could completely change the result.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 27 2013 04:33 GMT

#11

On May 27 2013 13:32 endy wrote:

Show nested quote +

TLPD is missing some entries unfortunately. Because of the way the UWC is generated a few missing entries could completely change the result.

Is there any other source to back it up, though? Because I don't know anything about BW history, and I don't want to spend too much time figuring out more champions because you're right, one mistake could ruin a lot of work.

rauk

United States2228 Posts

May 27 2013 05:02 GMT

#12

why not just start with grrr

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 27 2013 05:16 GMT

#13

I noticed that the title went through the OSL after my first post, and I assume its history is pretty well-known, so might as well extend it...

9/11/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

ComBi at Freechal OSL. [USA USA USA!]

9/25/00
(Z)

KIMWANCHUL defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Freechal OSL.

10/6/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

KIMWANCHUL at Freechal OSL.

10/9/00
(P)

[Oops]Season defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Freechal OSL.

10/16/00
(Z)

BaNulDoDuk defeats (P)

[Oops]Season at Freechal OSL.

10/24/00
(Z)

SKELTON defeats (Z)

BaNulDoDuk at Freechal OSL.

11/1/00
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (Z)

SKELTON at Freechal OSL. [and wins the "real" tournament]

...and here it gets murky. (R)

GARIMTO did not lose at a TLPD standard event for some time (4/7/01, (T)

BoxeR, 3rd Game-Q Starleague) but there are a couple events in between that seem like they might meet the UWC criteria, like OGN King of Kings. The help of anyone who knows a lot about BW history would be greatly appreciated...

chrisolo

Germany2606 Posts

May 27 2013 05:40 GMT

#14

On May 27 2013 12:33 endy wrote:
My bet is on Jangbi.

Mine too :D

thezanursic

5478 Posts

May 27 2013 07:00 GMT

#15

Good luck...

thezanursic

5478 Posts

May 27 2013 07:02 GMT

#16

On May 27 2013 14:16 bduddy wrote:
I noticed that the title went through the OSL after my first post, and I assume its history is pretty well-known, so might as well extend it...

9/11/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

ComBi at Freechal OSL. [USA USA USA!]

9/25/00
(Z)

KIMWANCHUL defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Freechal OSL.

10/6/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

KIMWANCHUL at Freechal OSL.

10/9/00
(P)

[Oops]Season defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Freechal OSL.

10/16/00
(Z)

BaNulDoDuk defeats (P)

[Oops]Season at Freechal OSL.

10/24/00
(Z)

SKELTON defeats (Z)

BaNulDoDuk at Freechal OSL.

11/1/00
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (Z)

SKELTON at Freechal OSL. [and wins the "real" tournament]

...and here it gets murky. (R)

GARIMTO did not lose at a TLPD standard event for some time (4/7/01, (T)

Why not limit it to the OSL?

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

May 27 2013 07:54 GMT

#17

On May 27 2013 16:02 thezanursic wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why not limit it to the OSL?

Then the answer would simply be Jangbi.

Epoxide

Magic Woods9326 Posts

May 27 2013 08:22 GMT

#18

On May 27 2013 16:54 Caladbolg wrote:

Show nested quote +

Then the answer would simply be Jangbi.

Not necessarily

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

May 27 2013 08:46 GMT

#19

On May 27 2013 17:22 Epoxide wrote:

Show nested quote +

Not necessarily

Except the case where a player would retire after winning an OSL, which would make him the UWC forever, which as far as I know never happened, then it would be Jangbi.

edit : Oh and congrats for your LB #1 rank !

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 27 2013 09:12 GMT

#20

On May 27 2013 16:02 thezanursic wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why not limit it to the OSL?

Because then there would be no point... the champion would always just be the OSL champion. The fun part is tracking it through various tournaments.

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 27 2013 13:31 GMT

#21

On May 27 2013 12:33 endy wrote:
My bet is on Jangbi.

JangBi won 2nd OSL on 4th August. However after that he played three BW matches in Hybrid proleague:
won against Crazy
won against OriOn
lost against sOs.

Now, for sOs this was the last BW match in his professional career. So JangBi can't be UWC - if he had a shot, sOs is

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

May 27 2013 13:34 GMT

#22

On May 27 2013 22:31 nimdil wrote:

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Oh I ignored the abomination that was hybrid Proleague, but yes I should have mentioned it.

Yonnua

United Kingdom2331 Posts

May 27 2013 13:39 GMT

#23

I would love it if it only carried through OSL and one of the times Bisu got in, he sniped the UWC before falling out. Bisu forever Brood War UWC!

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 27 2013 13:45 GMT

#24

We can do that with regards to Proleague, OSL, MSL, Tooniverse, KPGAs and maybe Proleague predecessors. And maybe GOMTV Classics and WCG South Korea. If that's enough I can probably do some computing but I will go only as far as TLPD...

Epoxide

Magic Woods9326 Posts

May 27 2013 13:56 GMT

#25

On May 27 2013 22:45 nimdil wrote:
WCS South Korea

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 27 2013 13:59 GMT

#26

On May 27 2013 22:56 Epoxide wrote:

Show nested quote +

It was supposed to be WCG. Damn these shortcuts are similar.

Wintex

Norway16838 Posts

May 27 2013 15:01 GMT

#27

Can't wait!

thezanursic

5478 Posts

May 27 2013 16:06 GMT

#28

On May 27 2013 16:54 Caladbolg wrote:

Show nested quote +

Then the answer would simply be Jangbi.

Sorry it made sense at the time... My brain occasionally doesn't work.

TelecoM

United States10668 Posts

May 27 2013 16:10 GMT

#29

Flash basically, that is all that needs to be said bro.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 27 2013 18:31 GMT

#30

It's a holiday and I'm bored, so might as well continue this.

12/04/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (R)

GARIMTO at OGN King of Kings.
Ruling: Considering it has OGN in the title, it probably qualifies. Seems like a tournament of champions/Blizzard Cup type of thing.

+ Show Spoiler +

12/9/00

GGMAN defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Crezeio Race Battle.

Ruling: Does not count. Crezio (TLPD mispells this event) appears to be some kind of network associated with KBS, i.e. Korean Broadcasting System. Thus, it seems likely this was broadcast. However, TLPD lists one game as being broadcast per day, so they most certainly were not broadcast live. In any case I think the title comes back to King of Kings anyway.

12/11/00
(Z)

TheBOy defeats (P)

Grrrr... at OGN King of Kings.

12/28/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

TheBOy at OGN King of Kings [in the finals].

[Note: This is the first major point of divergence. If the Crezio Race Battle qualifies, ChRh beats Grrrr... in those finals and then doesn't make the OSL. Some info would be appreciated...]

2/16/01
(Z)

JinNam defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Hanbitsoft OSL.

3/9/01
(Z)

JJUB defeats (Z)

JinNam at Hanbitsoft OSL.

3/16/01
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

JJUB at Hanbitsoft OSL.

...eh, too lazy to research this ZZGame Invite right now.

Epoxide

Magic Woods9326 Posts

May 27 2013 18:36 GMT

#31

On May 28 2013 03:31 bduddy wrote:
Crezio (TLPD mispells this event)

Not anymore. Thanks for pointing that out ^^

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 27 2013 23:47 GMT

#32

So my calculations will be surprising if they are correct:

1. Freemura @ Tooniverse Korea Open
2. [z-zone]Byun @ 2000 Hanaro Tongshin OnGameNet Starleague
3. H.O.T-Forever @ 2000 Hanaro Tongshin OnGameNet Starleague
4. Han.G)FlyinG @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
5. Zeus @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
6. ChRh @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
7. V-Gundam @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
8. BoxeR @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
9. Reach @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
10. TheMarine @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
11. YellOw @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
12. TheMarine @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
13. Oddysay @ 2002 KPGA Tour 1st League
14. IntoTheRain @ 2002 KPGA Tour 1st League
15. NaDa @ 2002 KPGA Tour 1st League
16. YellOw @ 2002 Reebok KPGA Tour 2nd League
17. Reach @ 2002 Pepsi Twist KPGA Tour 3rd League
18. YellOw @ 2002 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
19. H.O.T-Forever @ 2002 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
20. KIMDONGWOO @ 2002 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 2nd Leg
21. ElkY @ 2003 OnGameNet KTF EVERCup Proleague
22. XellOs @ 2003 OnGameNet KTF EVERCup Proleague
23. TheWinD @ 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League
24. Side @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 1st Leg
25. NaDa @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 1st Leg
26. Control @ 2003 OnGameNet KTF EVERCup Proleague
27. H.O.T-Forever @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection
28. Junitoss @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
29. Junwi @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
30. Shark @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
31. Control @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
32. TerAtO @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
33. Sync @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
34. XellOs @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
35. MuMyung @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
36. DoGGi @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
37. JJu @ 2003-2004 NHN HanGame OnGameNet Starleague
38. Nal_rA @ 2003-2004 NHN HanGame OnGameNet Starleague
39. iloveoov @ 2004 HanaFOS CEN Game MBCGame Starleague
40. Control @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 1
41. NaDa @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
42. RainBOw @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
43. Control @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
44. BoxeR @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
45. Sunny @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
46. iloveoov @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
47. July @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
48. Rage @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
49. Nal_rA @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
50. Kingdom @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
51. July @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
52. Goodfriend @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
53. fOru @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
54. Anytime @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
55. Assem @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 2
56. TheWinD @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
57. Anytime @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
58. SoO @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
59. Pusan @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
60. BoxeR @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
61. EJi @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League

after that match EJi beat iloveoov in MBCGame Team League, a bunch of preliminaries tournaments which may or may not be eligible(??), beat Stork @ Sky Proleague and then some preliminaries/evaluation league/exhibition which - again - may be discarded from being eligible for UWC.

After that EJi stopped playing becoming unsung King of Brood War???

Ignore above mentioned crap. There was slight error in the code:

1. Freemura @ Tooniverse Korea Open
2. [z-zone]Byun @ 2000 Hanaro Tongshin OnGameNet Starleague
3. H.O.T-Forever @ 2000 Hanaro Tongshin OnGameNet Starleague
4. Grrrr... @ 2000 Hanaro Tongshin OnGameNet Starleague
5. ComBi @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
6. Grrrr... @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
7. KIMWANCHUL @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
8. Grrrr... @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
9. [Oops]Season @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
10. BaNulDoDuk @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
11. SKELTON @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
12. GARIMTO @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
13. ZergMaN @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
14. V-Gundam @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
15. BoxeR @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
16. Reach @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
17. TheMarine @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
18. YellOw @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
19. GARIMTO @ 2001 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
20. Oddysay @ 2002 NATE OnGameNet Starleague
21. ChRh @ 2002 NATE OnGameNet Starleague
22. Sync @ 2002 NATE OnGameNet Starleague
23. ChRh @ 2002 Pepsi Twist KPGA Tour 3rd League
24. MuMyung @ 2002 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
25. JoyO @ 2002 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 2nd Leg
26. SoNiC)BlacK @ 2002 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 2nd Leg
27. YellOw @ 2002 WCG Korean Representative Preselection
28. Reach @ 2002 Pepsi Twist KPGA Tour 3rd League
29. ChoJJa @ 2002 SKY OnGameNet Starleague
30. kOs @ 2002-2003 Baskin Robbins KPGA Tour 4th League
31. H.O.T-Forever @ 2002-2003 Baskin Robbins KPGA Tour 4th League
32. ElkY @ 2002-2003 Panasonic OnGameNet Starleague
33. BoxeR @ 2002-2003 Panasonic OnGameNet Starleague
34. H.O.T-Forever @ 2003 4th KPGA Tour MVP Invitational
35. MuMyung @ 2003 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament
36. Junwi @ 2003 Spring OnGameNet ProLeague Qualifier
37. MuMyung @ 2003 Spring OnGameNet ProLeague Qualifier
38. XellOs @ 2003 OnGameNet KTF EVERCup Proleague
39. NaDa @ 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League
40. ChoJJa @ 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League
41. CryStal @ 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League
42. ChRh @ 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League
43. JinSu @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 1st Leg
44. SoNiC)BlacK @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 1st Leg
45. July @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection
46. Junwi @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
47. Shark @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
48. Control @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
49. TerAtO @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
50. Sync @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
51. XellOs @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
52. MuMyung @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
53. DoGGi @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
54. JJu @ 2003-2004 NHN HanGame OnGameNet Starleague
55. Control @ 2003-2004 NHN HanGame OnGameNet Starleague
56. Yooi @ 2003-2004 NeoWiz pmang Cup OnGameNet Proleague
57. NaDa @ 2003-2004 NeoWiz pmang Cup OnGameNet Proleague
58. TheMarine @ 2004 HanaFOS CEN Game MBCGame Starleague
59. iloveoov @ 2004 HanaFOS CEN Game MBCGame Starleague
60. Control @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 1
61. NaDa @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
62. RainBOw @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
63. Control @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
64. Kingdom @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
65. Sunny @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
66. iloveoov @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
67. Zeus @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
68. Control @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
69. Reach @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
70. Dongrae @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
71. Oddysay @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
72. Junwi @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
73. ChoJJa @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
74. Midas @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
75. YellOw @ 2004 EVER OnGameNet StarLeague
76. Goodfriend @ 2004 EVER OnGameNet StarLeague
77. ][Min][Gu][ @ 2004-2005 You Are the Golf King MBCGame StarLeague
78. Casy @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
79. Control @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
80. Hery @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
81. sAviOr @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 1
82. Midas @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 1
83. Hery @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
84. Dongrae @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
85. iloveoov @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
86. Pusan @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
87. BoxeR @ 2005 So1 OnGameNet StarLeague
88. Anytime @ 2005 So1 OnGameNet StarLeague
89. Pusan @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
90. NaDa @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
91. JJu @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
92. iloveoov @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
93. BoxeR @ 2005-2006 ShinHan Bank OnGameNet StarLeague
94. Goodfriend @ 2005 SKY Proleague Grand Final
95. Sea @ 2006 1st ShinHan Bank OnGameNet StarLeague
96. Shine[Name] @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
97. Nal_rA @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
98. Child @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
99. CuteBOy @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
100. Jy @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
101. ZerO @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
102. Pusan @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
103. Anytime @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
104. BeSt @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
105. XellOs @ 2007-2008 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
106. GoRush @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
107. Light @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
108. Shine[Name] @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
109. Mind @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
110. Jaedong @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
111. RuBy @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
112. Jaedong @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
113. Mind @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
114. HiyA @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
115. firebathero @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
116. Much @ 2008 WCG Korea Finals
117. Stork @ 2008 WCG Korea Finals
118. Jaedong @ 2008 WCG Korea Finals
119. Flash @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague All-Stars
120. Rumble @ 2008 Proleague Rivals Battle
121. Mind @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
122. Stork @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
123. Kal @ 2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
124. JangBi @ 2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
125. Bisu @ 2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
126. Tazza @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
127. OversKy @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
128. Shine[Name] @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
129. BeSt @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
130. Saint @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
131. great @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
132. Luxury @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
133. BeSt @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
134. 815 @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
135. Hyuk @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
136. Flash @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
137. Fantasy @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
138. hyvaa @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
139. Bisu @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
140. JangBi @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
141. YellOw[ArnC] @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
142. Stork @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
143. July @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
144. YellOw[ArnC] @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
145. Stork @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
146. HiyA @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
147. great @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
148. ggaemo @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
149. Leta @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
150. Tempest @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
151. Calm @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
152. Jaedong @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
153. Bisu @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
154. Stork @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
155. RorO @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
156. Flash @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
157. YellOw[ArnC] @ 2009 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
158. EffOrt @ 2009 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
159. Flash @ 2009 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
160. Kwanro @ 2009 Avalon MBCGame Starleague
161. YellOw[ArnC] @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
162. EffOrt @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
163. Calm @ 2009 Avalon MBCGame Starleague
164. Luxury @ 2009 WCG Korea Finals
165. Bisu @ 2009 WCG Korea Finals
166. hero @ 2009 Ultimate Proleague Championship
167. EffOrt @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
168. Hyuk @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
169. Pure @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
170. ZerO @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
171. EffOrt @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
172. Shine @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
173. Action @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
174. YellOw @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
175. Movie @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
176. Kal @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
177. HoGiL @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
178. Kal @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
179. Jaehoon @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
180. Snow @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
181. HyuN @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
182. sKyHigh @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
183. Sea @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
184. Stork @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
185. HyuN @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
186. firebathero @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
187. Light @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
188. JangBi @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
189. Horang2 @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
190. EffOrt @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
191. go.go @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
192. Snow @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
193. Leta @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
194. sKyHigh @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
195. HoGiL @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
196. Movie @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
197. RuBy @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
198. Snow @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
199. RorO @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
200. FrOzen @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
201. HyuN @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
202. Anytime @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
203. HoGiL @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
204. Tempest @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
205. Pure @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
206. free @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
207. Hyuk @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
208. Hydra @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
209. BeSt @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
210. Modesty @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
211. TurN @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
212. Flash @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
213. Light @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
214. BaBy @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
215. Shuttle @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
216. XellOs @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
217. Movie @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
218. ggaemo @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
219. BByong @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
220. Killer @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
221. ZerO @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
222. HiyA @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
223. Neo.G_Soulkey @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
224. firebathero @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
225. Light @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
226. M18M @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
227. ZerO @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
228. s2 @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
229. Leta @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
230. RorO @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
231. sKyHigh @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
232. Sea @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
233. Fantasy @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
234. Light @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
235. Mind @ 2011 ABC Mart MBCGame Starleague
236. Crazy-Hydra @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
237. free @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
238. Calm @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
239. Jaehoon @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
240. n.Die_soO @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
241. Mind @ 2011 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament
242. Hydra @ 2011 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament
243. Flash @ 2011 Jin Air OnGameNet Starleague
244. ZerO @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
245. Stats @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague

And I run out of data so either manual or I will beg for more data or something...

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 28 2013 05:39 GMT

#33

Great job! Looks like you might have missed WCG (which is in TLPD BW International), though, and those matches should definitely count... looks like you just went with the TLPD "regular" events? Makes sense for a program, but I can't help but think some other events probably meet the criteria as well... how is it determined whether an event is a "special" event in TLPD, anyway?

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 28 2013 07:24 GMT

#34

I will check later. I limited myself only to osl, osl dual, kpga, msl, proleague, proleagues predecessors and gomtv classics and wcg korea. Wcg can be dangerous as title could disappear. I can add any tournament now of course but it looks like pretty much every notable progamer was uwc at one point or another.

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

May 28 2013 08:41 GMT

#35

On May 27 2013 14:16 bduddy wrote:

9/11/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

ComBi at Freechal OSL. [USA USA USA!]

CANADA CANADA CANADA! French Canada...

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 28 2013 09:11 GMT

#36

On May 28 2013 17:41 ninazerg wrote:

Show nested quote +

CANADA CANADA CANADA! French Canada...

Grrr.... actually was three times UWC and Elky was once. Spiritual ancestors of HuK and Stephano.

169 (13*13 ^^) UWCs.

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 28 2013 19:13 GMT

#37

And here are the same calculations that counts all games except "special" events (which - I guess - translates to leagues not in italics in TLPD):

1. Freemura @ Tooniverse Korea Open
2. October @ 2000 1st KGL
3. Bassy @ 2000 iTV 1st Ranking League
4. SKELTON @ 2000 iTV 1st Ranking League
5. Freemura @ 2000 iTV 1st Ranking League
6. ChRh @ 2000 iTV 1st Ranking League
7. Bassy @ 2000 iTV 1st Ranking League
8. ComBi @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
9. Grrrr... @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
10. KIMWANCHUL @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
11. Grrrr... @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
12. [Oops]Season @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
13. BaNulDoDuk @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
14. SKELTON @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
15. GARIMTO @ 2000 Freechal OnGameNet Starleague
16. Grrrr... @ 2000 OnGameNet Final King of Kings
17. TheBOy @ 2000 OnGameNet Final King of Kings
18. Grrrr... @ 2000 OnGameNet Final King of Kings
19. JinNam @ 2001 Hanbitsoft OnGameNet Starleague
20. JJUB @ 2001 Hanbitsoft OnGameNet Starleague
21. Grrrr... @ 2001 Hanbitsoft OnGameNet Starleague
22. Lee @ 2001 Hanbitsoft OnGameNet Starleague
23. sigamari @ 2001 Coca-Cola OnGameNet Starleague
24. JinNam @ 2001 Coca-Cola OnGameNet Starleague
25. Lee @ 2001 Coca-Cola OnGameNet Starleague
26. Niza @ 2001 KPGA August
27. hyungil @ 2001 1st AMD Progamer Korea Open
28. GGMAN @ 2001 1st AMD Progamer Korea Open
29. Han.G)FlyinG @ 2001 1st AMD Progamer Korea Open
30. JoyO @ 2001 KPGA September
31. Side @ 2001 KPGA September
32. TheMarine @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
33. Control @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
34. younggil @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
35. ChoJJa @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
36. V-Gundam @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
37. BoxeR @ 2001 WCG Korea Finals
38. Marine @ 2001-2002 iTV Ranking 3rd League
39. ChRh @ 2001 KPGA September
40. SalMoSa @ 2001 Fall OSL Offline Preliminaries
41. Reach @ 2001 Fall OSL Offline Preliminaries
42. TheMarine @ 2001 Knight Bridges Korea Jeju International Game Festival
43. H.O.T-Forever @ 2001 KPGA October
44. TaewoO @ 2001 KPGA October
45. H.O.T-Forever @ 2001 KPGA November
46. MuMyung @ 2001 KPGA November
47. H.O.T-Forever @ 2001-2002 KPGA Winners Championship
48. MuMyung @ 2001-2002 KPGA Winners Championship
49. Oddysay @ 2002 KPGA Tour 1st League
50. IntoTheRain @ 2002 KPGA Tour 1st League
51. YellOw @ 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague
52. Eugene @ 2002 NATE OnGameNet Starleague
53. TheMarine @ 2002 NATE OnGameNet Starleague
54. NaDa @ 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague
55. Grrrr... @ 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague
56. Oddysay @ 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague
57. H.O.T-Forever @ 2002 NATE OnGameNet Starleague
58. sigamari @ 2002 Pepsi Twist KPGA Tour 3rd League
59. XellOs @ 2002 Fall OCL Offline Preliminaries
60. Niza @ 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League
61. Side @ 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League
62. Sync @ 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League
63. JinSu @ 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League
64. Zeus @ 2002 2nd OnGameNet Challenge League
65. ZanDarke @ 2002 2nd OnGameNet Challenge League
66. GGMAN @ 2002 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 1st Leg
67. KIMWANCHUL @ 2002 2nd OnGameNet Challenge League
68. XellOs @ 2002 2nd OnGameNet Challenge League
69. GGMAN @ 2002 2nd OnGameNet Challenge League
70. CryStal @ 2002-2003 Baskin Robbins KPGA Tour 4th League
71. kOs @ 2002-2003 Baskin Robbins KPGA Tour 4th League
72. H.O.T-Forever @ 2002-2003 Baskin Robbins KPGA Tour 4th League
73. ElkY @ 2002-2003 Panasonic OnGameNet Starleague
74. BoxeR @ 2002-2003 Panasonic OnGameNet Starleague
75. Enough @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
76. fOru @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
77. JunioR @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
78. NaDa @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
79. GoRush @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
80. TheMarine @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
81. YellOw @ 2002-2003 iTV Ranking 5th League
82. NaDa @ 2002-2003 KTEC KPGA Winners Championship
83. H.O.T-Forever @ 2003 GhemTV FindAll Challenger Open Starleague
84. BrEEzE @ 2003 Spring OnGameNet ProLeague Qualifier
85. EJi @ 2003 Spring OCL Offline Preliminaries
86. CryStal @ 2003 Spring OCL Offline Preliminaries
87. SONJJANG @ 2003 1st OnGameNet Challenge League
88. TheMarine @ 2003 Spring MSL Offline Preliminaries
89. Lee @ 2003 KeMongSa KPGA Tour Team League
90. GoRush @ 2003 4th GhemTV Offline Preliminaries
91. V-Gundam @ 2003 Stout MBCGame Starleague
92. Zeus @ 2003 Stout MBCGame Starleague
93. Kingdom @ 2003 Hotbreak OnGameNet Dual Tournament
94. Reach @ 2003 OnGameNet KTF EVERCup Proleague
95. ChoJJa @ 2003 Hotbreak OnGameNet Dual Tournament
96. XellOs @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection 2nd Leg
97. GGon @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
98. MuMyung @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
99. DoGGi @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
100. BoxeR @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
101. Grrrr... @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
102. YellOw @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
103. IntoTheRain @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
104. RainBOw @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
105. fOru @ 2003 iTV Ranking 6th League
106. Sinji_NT @ 2003 Fall Minor League Qualifiers
107. JinSu @ 2003 Fall Minor League Qualifiers
108. XellOs @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
109. Grrrr... @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
110. SaferZerg @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
111. V-Gundam @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
112. Nal_rA @ 2003 LifeZone KPGA Team League
113. Rhythm @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection
114. Ogogo @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection
115. H.O.T-Forever @ 2003 WCG Korean Representative Preselection
116. JinSu @ 2003 Fall Minor League Qualifiers
117. ArtOfTerran @ 2003 2nd OnGameNet Challenge League
118. Pusan @ 2003 Fall OnGameNet ProLeague Qualifier
119. Rock @ 2003 Fall OnGameNet ProLeague Qualifier
120. JoyO @ 2003 Winter Minor League Qualifiers
121. SoNiC)BlacK @ 2003-2004 KTF Bigi Premier League(1st)
122. Goodfriend @ 2003 Winter OCL Offline Preliminaries
123. fOfy @ 2003-2004 NeoWiz pmang Cup OnGameNet Proleague
124. Nal_rA @ 2003-2004 LG IBM MBC Team League
125. iloveoov @ 2004 HanaFOS CEN Game MBCGame Starleague
126. Midas @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Challenge League
127. XellOs @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Challenge League
128. iloveoov @ 2003 3rd OnGameNet Challenge League
129. TheMarine @ 2003-2004 LG IBM MBC Team League
130. RainBOw @ 2003-2004 LG IBM MBC Team League
131. Side @ 2004 2nd Premier League Qualifers 1st Leg
132. Control @ 2004 iTV 7th Ranking League Offline Preliminaries
133. GoRush @ 2004 2nd Premier League Qualifers 2nd Leg
134. Control @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
135. ChoJJa @ 2004 iTV Ranking 7th League
136. Nal_rA @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
137. Goodfriend @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
138. Sync @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
139. NaDa @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
140. Reach @ 2004 Tucson MBCGame Team League
141. iloveoov @ 2004 iTV Ranking 7th League
142. July @ 2004 Gillette OnGameNet Starleague
143. Rage @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
144. Nal_rA @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
145. Kingdom @ 2004 SPRIS MBCGame StarLeague
146. July @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
147. SaferZerg @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
148. fOru @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
149. Midas @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
150. YellOw @ 2004 EVER OnGameNet StarLeague
151. Goodfriend @ 2004 EVER OnGameNet StarLeague
152. ][Min][Gu][ @ 2004-2005 You Are the Golf King MBCGame StarLeague
153. Casy @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
154. Stork @ 2004 Winter OCL Offline Preliminaries
155. sAviOr @ 2004 Winter OCL Offline Preliminaries
156. Niza @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
157. GoRush @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
158. TheWinD @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
159. XellOs @ 2004 CYON OnGameNet Challenge League
160. Casy @ 2004 SKY Proleague Round 3
161. Yooi @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
162. Nal_rA @ 2004-2005 MBCMovies MBCGame Team League
163. Yooi @ 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1
164. DoGGi @ 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1
165. Anytime @ 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1
166. Rock @ 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1
167. July @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 1
168. Iris @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 1
169. Rock @ 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 2
170. Reach @ 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 2
171. sAviOr @ 2005 UZOO MBCGame StarLeague
172. Midas @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 1
173. Hery @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
174. Dongrae @ 2005 SKY Proleague Round 2
175. TT @ 2005 MBC MOVIES 7th Survivor League
176. Rumble @ 2005 MBC MOVIES 7th Survivor League
177. Hery @ 2005 Winter ODT Offline Preliminaries
178. TesteR @ 2005-2006 K-SWISS OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1
179. ChoJJa @ 2005-2006 K-SWISS OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1
180. RainBOw @ 2005 K-SWISS OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 2
181. ChoJJa @ 2005 SKY Proleague Grand Final
182. BoxeR @ 2006 Pringles MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
183. Yooi @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
184. July @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
185. RainBOw @ 2006 MBC MOVIES 8th Survivor League
186. YellOw @ 2006 WCG Korean Representative Selection
187. JiHyun @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 1
188. OversKy @ 2006 Fall MST Offline Preliminaries
189. oDin @ 2006 MBC MOVIES 9th Survivor
190. Canata @ 2006 MBC MOVIES 9th Survivor
191. JJu @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 2
192. sAviOr @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 2
193. Hwasin @ 2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
194. Silver @ 2006 SKY Proleague Round 2
195. Light @ 2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
196. NaDa @ 2006-2007 3rd ShinHan Bank OnGameNet StarLeague
197. sAviOr @ 2006-2007 3rd ShinHan Bank OnGameNet StarLeague
198. Bisu @ 2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
199. fOrGG @ 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup
200. Sea @ 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup
201. Luxury @ 2007 MBC MOVIES 11th Survivor League
202. Sheis @ 2007 MBC MOVIES 11th Survivor League
203. GanZi @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1
204. Jaedong @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1
205. NaDa @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1
206. Chalrenge @ 2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
207. July @ 2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
208. Memory @ 2007 OnGameNet StarChallenge Season 1
209. Rock @ 2007 OnGameNet StarChallenge Season 1
210. Bisu @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1
211. Calm @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1
212. Iris @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
213. BackHo @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
214. Hwasin @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
215. Pusan @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
216. NaDa @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
217. Flash @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
218. Calm @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
219. DarkElf @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
220. XellOs @ 2007-2008 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
221. GoRush @ 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 2
222. Light @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
223. Shine[Name] @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
224. Mind @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
225. Jaedong @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
226. RuBy @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
227. Jaedong @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
228. Mind @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
229. HiyA @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
230. Flash @ 2008 GOMTV TG-Intel Classic Season 1
231. free @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
232. Chalrenge @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
233. BeSt @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
234. July @ 2008 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
235. TesteR @ 2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague
236. Study @ 2008 Fall MST Offline Preliminaries
237. NaDa @ 2008 MBCGame Season 2 Survivor Tournament
238. Fantasy @ 2008 MBCGame Season 2 Survivor Tournament
239. Stork @ 2008 Incruit OnGameNet Starleague
240. Kal @ 2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
241. Jaehoon @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
242. Flash @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
243. ZerO @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
244. RorO @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
245. hyvaa @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
246. go.go @ 2008 Winter OSL Offline Preliminaries
247. FireFist @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
248. BackHo @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
249. GoRush @ 2008 MBCGame Season 3 Survivor Tournament
250. Leta @ 2008 MBCGame Season 3 Survivor Tournament
251. sKyHigh @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
252. HiyA @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
253. Shuttle @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
254. Luxury @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
255. BeSt @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
256. 815 @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
257. Hyuk @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
258. Flash @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
259. Fantasy @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
260. JangBi @ 2009 Lost Saga MSL
261. keke @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
262. sKyHigh @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
263. Kal @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
264. Luxury @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
265. Light @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
266. Flash @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
267. PianO @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
268. NaDa @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
269. free @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
270. July @ 2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League
271. kkong @ 2009 Spring MST Offline Preliminaries
272. SuperNoVa @ 2009 Spring MST Offline Preliminaries
273. hero @ 2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3
274. PianO @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
275. Flash @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
276. HiyA @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
277. Kal @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
278. sKyHigh @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
279. Really @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
280. Bisu @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
281. Stork @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
282. RorO @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
283. Flash @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
284. YellOw[ArnC] @ 2009 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
285. EffOrt @ 2009 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
286. Flash @ 2009 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
287. Kwanro @ 2009 Avalon MBCGame Starleague
288. YellOw[ArnC] @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
289. EffOrt @ 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague
290. Calm @ 2009 Avalon MBCGame Starleague
291. Luxury @ 2009 WCG Korea Finals
292. Bisu @ 2009 WCG Korea Finals
293. Shine @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
294. Light @ 2009 MBCGame Season 2 Survivor Tournament
295. Pure @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
296. ZerO @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
297. EffOrt @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
298. Shine @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
299. Action @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
300. By.Rage @ 2009-2010 KeSPA Dream League
301. Tazza @ 2009-2010 KeSPA Dream League
302. Jaehoon @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
303. DarkElf @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
304. free @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
305. GoRush @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
306. Kwanro @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
307. Casy @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
308. GuemChi @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
309. Leta @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
310. free @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
311. RorO @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
312. Movie @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
313. BaBy @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
314. sKyHigh @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
315. Mind @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
316. Movie @ 2010 MBCGame Season 1 Survivor Tournament
317. RuBy @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
318. Snow @ 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
319. RorO @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
320. FrOzen @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
321. HyuN @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
322. Anytime @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
323. HoGiL @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
324. Tempest @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
325. Crazy-Hydra @ 2010 Summer MST Offline Preliminaries
326. sKyHigh @ 2010 Summer MST Offline Preliminaries
327. BeSt @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
328. Light @ 2010 Summer OSL Offline Preliminaries
329. Stats @ 2010 Summer OSL Offline Preliminaries
330. Hyuk @ 2010 Summer OSL Offline Preliminaries
331. GoRush @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
332. PuMa @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
333. Fantasy @ 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague
334. JangBi @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
335. hero @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
336. fOrGG @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
337. Flash @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
338. Fantasy @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
339. Flash @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
340. Jaedong @ 2010 WCG Korea Finals
341. Flash @ 2010 Bigfile MBCGame Starleague
342. BeSt @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
343. Sea @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
344. ggaemo @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
345. Anyppi @ 2010 Winter MST Offline Preliminaries
346. Paralyze @ 2010 Winter OnGameNet Starleague Preliminaries
347. hero @ 2010 Winter OnGameNet Starleague Preliminaries
348. Calm @ 2010 Winter OnGameNet Starleague Preliminaries
349. Bisu @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
350. Shine @ 2010-2011 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
351. Mind @ 2010-2011 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague
352. Calm @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
353. Hydra @ 2010-2011 PDPop MBCGame Starleague
354. Midas @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
355. Jaedong @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
356. Stork @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
357. ZerO @ 2010-2011 PDPop MBCGame Starleague
358. Bisu @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
359. Stork @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
360. ZerO @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
361. BaBy @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
362. Fantasy @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
363. Calm @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
364. Bisu @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
365. Kal @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
366. Perfective @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
367. Reality @ 2011 Spring MST Offline Preliminaries
368. Jaedong @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
369. Flash @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
370. Tyson @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
371. M18M @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
372. Killer @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
373. firebathero @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
374. PerfectMan @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
375. Fantasy @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
376. Jaedong @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
377. s2 @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
378. Jaedong @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
379. Bisu @ 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League
380. Flash @ 2011 ABC Mart MBCGame Starleague
381. Jaedong @ 2011 ABC Mart MBCGame Starleague
382. great @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
383. Iris @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
384. Horang2 @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
385. Grape @ 2011 ABC Mart MBCGame Starleague
386. Jaedong @ 2011 ABC Mart MBCGame Starleague
387. Bisu @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
388. Horang2 @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
389. Stork @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
390. Stats @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
391. n.Die_soO @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
392. Mind @ 2011 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament
393. Hydra @ 2011 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament
394. Flash @ 2011 Jin Air OnGameNet Starleague
395. ZerO @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague
396. Stats @ 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague

While there are much more steps, the result is again Stats > Zero...

rauk

United States2228 Posts

May 28 2013 22:40 GMT

#38

Bo1 and pl seem pretty volatile. Why not limit to only boX wins?

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 28 2013 23:58 GMT

#39

This can be done as well:

1. Freemura @ Tooniverse Korea Open
2. SayoO @ 2003 Winter Minor League Qualifiers
3. Junwi @ 2003 Winter Minor League Qualifiers
4. DoGGi @ 2003 Winter Minor League Qualifiers
5. fOru @ 2004 iTV 7th Ranking League Offline Preliminaries
6. Sunny @ 2004 Spring OCL Offline Preliminaries
7. Freshen @ 2004 Spring Minor League Qualifiers
8. [Oops]ClouD @ 2004 G-Voice OnGameNet Challenge League
9. TheWinD @ 2004 WCG Korea Team Selection
10. CuteBOy @ 2004 Fall OCL Offline Preliminaries
11. TerAtO @ 2004 Fall OCL Offline Preliminaries
12. fOru @ 2004-2005 5th MinorLeague
13. GGPlay @ 2004 CYON OnGameNet Challenge League
14. RainBOw @ 2005 ATI 6th Survivor League
15. Siva @ 2005 WCG Korea Progamer Selection Offline Preliminaries
16. fOru @ 2005 WCG Korea Progamer Selection Offline Preliminaries
17. XellOs @ 2005 WCG Progamer Seed Selection
18. ChoJJa @ 2005-2006 CYON MBCGame StarLeague
19. sAviOr @ 2006 Pringles MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
20. Saint @ 2006 WCG Korean Representative Selection
21. JiHyun @ 2006 Summer ODT Offline Preliminaries
22. OversKy @ 2006 Fall MST Offline Preliminaries
23. Pusan @ 2006 MBC MOVIES 9th Survivor
24. Much @ 2006 Winter ODT Offline Preliminaries
25. sAviOr @ 2006-2007 3rd ShinHan Bank OnGameNet StarLeague
26. Bisu @ 2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
27. Light @ 2007 WCG Korea Finals
28. sAviOr @ 2007 WCG Korea Finals
29. Hwasin @ 2007 WCG Korea Finals
30. Bisu @ 2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 3
31. Mind @ 2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 3
32. Jaedong @ 2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
33. fOrGG @ 2008 Arena MBCGame Starleague
34. Much @ 2008 Incruit OnGameNet Starleague
35. Stork @ 2008 WCG Korea Finals
36. Jaedong @ 2008 WCG Korea Finals
37. free @ 2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
38. Bisu @ 2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
39. hero @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
40. Jaedong @ 2008-2009 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
41. EffOrt @ 2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3
42. Iris @ 2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3
43. Flash @ 2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3
44. Bisu @ 2009 WCG Korea Finals
45. Shine @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
46. Movie @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
47. Flash @ 2009-2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
48. Jaedong @ 2009-2010 NATE MBCGame Starleague
49. BaBy @ 2010 Korean Air OnGameNet StarLeague
50. Hydra @ 2010 Korean Air OnGameNet StarLeague Season 2
51. Flash @ 2011 ABC Mart MBCGame Starleague
52. JangBi @ 2011 Jin Air OnGameNet Starleague

Flash - checked,
Jaedong - checked,
JangBi - checked
Bisu - checked
sAviOr - checked
Grrr...., BoxeR, iloveoov, NaDa, GARIMTO, Nal_rA - unchceked.

Early leagues had a lot of Bo1. All things considered we are lucky that Freemura played BoX at all...

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

May 29 2013 04:09 GMT

#40

On May 29 2013 07:40 rauk wrote:
Bo1 and pl seem pretty volatile. Why not limit to only boX wins?

That's pretty much the point of UWC. It's a fun title that means little in terms of skill, and you're simply trying to see if some obscure player was able to get the title at a given point in time. On the basic level, it's a chain of single games intertwined by a winner-take-all link.

For example, in SC2: WOL, the last holder of the title was actually Bear (who?) who was able to beat Roro (I think) and suddenly not play anymore for the rest of WOL (except that they counted non-televised preliminaries which, in my opinion, shouldn't really count).

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 29 2013 08:21 GMT

#41

On May 29 2013 13:09 Caladbolg wrote:

Show nested quote +

Bear was easy. Look at the least above - Freemura was UWC for like 3 years...

iloveav

Poland1478 Posts

May 29 2013 14:16 GMT

#42

Oh I ignored the abomination that was hybrid Proleague, but yes I should have mentioned it.

WIth you on tthat bro :D.

Zanno

United States1484 Posts

May 29 2013 19:03 GMT

#43

this whole thing would probably be a lot more interesting if you just started with boxer

just a thought

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

May 29 2013 20:21 GMT

#44

On May 30 2013 04:03 Zanno wrote:
this whole thing would probably be a lot more interesting if you just started with boxer

just a thought

Why? o_O You start with Championship. BoxeR's first Championship was 4th OSL - after Freemura, Grrr.... and GARIMTO. It's REALLY hard to justify that. It's like starting UWC in Football with Brazil - because Brazil's football is AWESOME - rather than Uruguay.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

May 30 2013 04:06 GMT

#45

On May 29 2013 17:21 nimdil wrote:

Show nested quote +

Bear was easy. Look at the least above - Freemura was UWC for like 3 years...

That was with the at least Bo3 rule, which doesn't really make sense, especially in the early years.

So no one knows anything about these early tournaments? ;(

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

May 30 2013 05:16 GMT

#46

On May 29 2013 13:09 Caladbolg wrote:

Show nested quote +

they were televised

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

June 25 2013 07:07 GMT

#47

I'M tired of computers taking my job, and bored, so why not continue?

3/16/01
(P) (P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z) (Z)

JJUB at Hanbitsoft OSL.

+ Show Spoiler +

3/16/01

TheBOy defeats (P)

Grrrr... at 2001 ZZGame Invite

Ruling: Does not count. The ZZGame Invite took place over three days, including OSL days, so I highly doubt it was broadcast. Also, it may have taken place before the OSL game, so I'm just going to ignore this tournament.

4/13/01
(T)

Lee defeats (P)

Grrrr... at Hanbitsoft OSL.
Ruling: Grrrr... lost at both the OSL and Game-Q Starleague on the same day. It's probably impossible to tell which was first (does anyone remember the broadcasting schedules back then? Doubt it...) so I'm going to go with the OSL game, which is lower on the page.
Note: Lee went out of the OSL at the same time.

+ Show Spoiler +

6/7/01

SONJJANG defeats (T)

Lee at GGTV 4 Kings Battle

Ruling: Does not count. A Bo3 played over a week? Yeah, no.

6/15/01
(Z)

sigamari defeats (T)

Lee at Coca-Cola OSL

7/6/01
(Z)

JinNam defeats (T)

Lee at Coca-Cola OSL
Note: Damn, they used to spread these things out...

7/20/01
(T)

Lee defeats (Z)

JinNam at Coca-Cola OSL

7/25/01
(Z)

JinNam defeats (T)

Lee at Coca-Cola OSL

7/29/01
(Z)

Side defeats (T)

Lee at 3rd iTV Ranking League

8/1/01
(Z)

TaewoO defeats (Z)

Side at 2001 KPGA August

8/24/01
(Z)

[z-zone]SoO defeats (Z)

TaewoO at 2001 KPGA August
Note: The first Bo5 here, I believe...

9/12/01
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (Z)

[z-zone]SoO at 2001 KPGA September
Note: SoO's last game O_O

10/14/01
+ Show Spoiler +

[tlpd#players# (T)

910#Z]younggil[/tlpd] defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at KBK Jeju Intl Fest.

Ruling: Does not count. A 64-player, one-day tournament in 2001? I highly doubt this was broadcast in any meaningful way, and I'm not really sure why it's listed as a normal event in TLPD when other "festivals" aren't. Also, this is younggil's last game (career record: 3-4), and I don't really want to declare him the all-time BW champion...

10/23/01
(T)

TheMarine defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at iTV Hot Battle
Note: Listed as a special event, but weekly broadcast schedule and extant Youtube video implies it was live and broadcast. If it doesn't count, H.O.T holds the title until December!

10/26/01
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (T)

TheMarine at SKY2001 OSL

11/1/01
(T)

nO.1 defeats (P)

GARIMTO at 2001 KPGA November
(T)

TheMarine defeats (T)

nO.1 at 2001 KPGA November

11/21/01
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (T)

TheMarine at Lord of Best Race.
Note: Again, a special event that seems to meet the requirements. Bo5.

12/7/01
(T)

BoxeR defeats (P)

GARIMTO at SKY2001 OSL.
Note: I was starting to wonder when he was going to get it...

NOTE: This overlaps with WCG 2001. Boxer won that, of course, but there was a "National Tournament" also held; somehow, Korea went out in the first round. Does anyone know how that worked/who played? I highly doubt Boxer lost, but still...

12/28/01
(P)

GARIMTO defeats (T)

BoxeR at SKY2001 OSL (in the finals).

Well, that's the end of 2001. I trust you will find my results much more enjoyable then the cold, machine-generated results posted earlier by nimdil. Any BW experts see any issues?

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19228 Posts

April 14 2014 16:15 GMT

#48

Bisu

RainmanMP

United States1698 Posts

April 14 2014 21:16 GMT

#49

If you started at the first ever OSl I'm guessing it ended up with someone who's playing sc2 or retired. Would be interesting to track the unofficial starcraft world champion if it went to sc2. Or just start with the first ssl champion.

Caihead

Canada8550 Posts

April 14 2014 21:27 GMT

#50

I'm fine with any list that has Flash on it at least 3 times.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

April 14 2014 22:12 GMT

#51

On April 15 2014 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:
(P)

Bisu

Should've known that would have been the bump post.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

April 15 2014 07:30 GMT

#52

Oh, hey, one of my topics!

I've got nothing better to do...

1/18/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (P)

GARIMTO at KT King of Kings

1/24/02
(Z)

MuMyung defeats (Z)

YellOw at 2001-2002 KPGA Winners Championship
Bo5 finals.

2/14/02
(T)

Oddysay defeauts (Z)

MuMyung at KPGA 1st Tour.

2/28/02
(P)

IntoTheRain defeats (T)

Oddysay at KPGA 1st Tour.

3/14/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (P)

IntoTheRain at 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague

3/21/02
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

YellOw at 2002-2003 iTV Rivals League

3/31/02
(Z)

JinSu defeats (T)

NaDa at 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League

4/7/02
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

JinSu at 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League
(Z)

Side defeats (T)

XellOs at 2002 iTV Ranking 4th League

Ruling: going by TLPD's order...

4/11/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

Side at 2002-2003 iTV Rivals League

4/12/02
(Z)

Eugene defeats (Z)

YellOw at NATE OSL
+ Show Spoiler +

stupid iTV leagues... this was the result even before I took all the (T)

Special events into account...

4/30/02

NaDa defeats (Z)

Eugene at 2001-2002 Lord of the Best Race Competition
Bo5; last match of (T)

Special event

5/1/02
(P)

Zeus defeats (T)

NaDa at 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague

5/15/02
(T)

Oddysay defeats (P)

Zeus at 2002 1st GhemTV StarLeague
Bo3

5/17/02
(T)

ChRh defeats (T)

Oddysay at NATE OSL

5/23/02
(T)

BoxeR defeats (T)

ChRh at 2002-2003 iTV Rivals League
+ Show Spoiler +

Ignoring other match the same day due to TLPD order

6/21/02

V-Gundam defeats (T)

BoxeR at 2002 1st OnGameNet Dual Tournament

7/19/02
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (T)

V-Gundam at SKY2002 OSL

7/30/02
(T)

BoxeR defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at 2002 Infinity Best Race Competition
Bo5

8/1/02
(T)

JoyO defeats (T)

BoxeR at 2002 2nd GhemTV StarLeague

+ Show Spoiler +

Sonic)

Black defeats (T)

JoyO at WCG something-or-other

Ruling: Does not count. I highly doubt WCG qualifying was in any way broadcast.

8/15/02
(Z)

KIMWANCHUL defeats (T)

JoyO at 2002 2nd GhemTV StarLeague

8/22/02
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (Z)

KIMWANCHUL at 2002 2nd GhemTV StarLeague

8/23/02
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at SKY2002 OSL

9/5/02
(P)

Reach defeats (Z)

YellOw at KPGA 3rd Tour

10/5/02
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

Reach at KPGA 3rd Tour
Bo5 final

10/6/02
(P)

fOru defeats (T)

NaDa at 5th iTV Ranking League
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (P)

fOru at 5th iTV Ranking League
How many of these things did they have?!

10/15/02
(T)

kOs defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at KPGA 4th Tour

11/12/02
(Z)

H.O.T-Forever defeats (T)

kOs at KPGA 4th Tour

12/6/02
(T)

ElkY defeats (Z)

H.O.T-Forever at Panasonic OSL

12/27/02
(T)

BoxeR defeats (T)

ElkY at Panasonic OSL

12/29/02
(Z)

Enough defeats (T)

BoxeR at 5th iTV Ranking League

(Z)

Enough is right... *pant*

Please feel free to point out the inevitable mistake that invalidates the entire thing, I'll just be waiting here.

Piste

6174 Posts

April 15 2014 08:31 GMT

#53

On May 27 2013 14:16 bduddy wrote:9/11/00
(P)

Grrrr... defeats (Z)

ComBi at Freechal OSL. [USA USA USA!]

haha fail patriotism^^
Grrr...
...is actually Canadian

TaShadan

Germany1966 Posts

April 15 2014 14:06 GMT

#54

On April 15 2014 17:31 Piste wrote:

Show nested quote +

haha fail patriotism^^
Grrr...
...is actually Canadian

rofl :D

vOdToasT

Sweden2870 Posts

April 15 2014 14:08 GMT

#55

On April 15 2014 17:31 Piste wrote:

Show nested quote +

haha fail patriotism^^
Grrr...
...is actually Canadian

Shut up, communist.

U S A.
U S A.
U S A.
U S A.

Boonbag

France3318 Posts

April 15 2014 15:02 GMT

#56

On April 15 2014 23:08 vOdToasT wrote:

Show nested quote +

Shut up, communist.

U S A.
U S A.
U S A.
U S A.

id say the only two foreign players to ever get far in OSL happen to be both native french speakers heh (only one else was asmodey and he didnt get past the grp stages)
french 2nd best overall bw language

puppykiller

United States3126 Posts

April 15 2014 19:30 GMT

#57

Yes but has there ever existed in the history of BW... a good... FRENCH ZERG????

Xiphos

Canada7507 Posts

April 15 2014 19:47 GMT

#58

On April 16 2014 04:30 puppykiller wrote:
Yes but has there ever existed in the history of BW... a good... FRENCH ZERG????

Stephano

GG.

puppykiller

United States3126 Posts

April 15 2014 19:57 GMT

#59

Dif game > :u(

GoTuNk!

Chile4591 Posts

April 15 2014 20:35 GMT

#60

On April 15 2014 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:
(P)

Bisu

solid bump

Boonbag

France3318 Posts

April 15 2014 20:45 GMT

#61

On April 16 2014 04:57 puppykiller wrote:
Dif game > :u(

cnt fight french foreign prophecy kek

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

April 15 2014 21:26 GMT

#62

On April 16 2014 04:47 Xiphos wrote:

Show nested quote +

Stephano

GG.

4 ctrl groups, unlimited building selection, instant anti-micro abilities, a retard for head developer who doesn't understand that the game is not C&C 2.0...

Woosung

65 Posts

April 15 2014 21:40 GMT

#63

The original question was regarding the "history of BW", Stephano came to SC2 from WC3 so yeah.

I suppose MoMaN would be the most famous french Zerg in BW? My knowledge about the international BW scene is quite limited, and thus, I'm rather uncertain.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

April 17 2014 05:30 GMT

#64

So aside from arguing about foreign hopes, is anyone actually reading the history? I don't want to lose too much work when someone remembers that the 27th iTV Ranking League or whatever wasn't actually eligible... ah, whatever.

1/5/03
(P)

fOru defeats (Z)

Enough at 5th iTV Ranking League
(Z)

JunioR defeats (P)

fOru at 5th iTV Ranking League

1/12/03
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

JunioR at 5th iTV Ranking League

1/15/03
(T)

Oddysay defeats (T)

NaDa at 2003 1st GhemTV StarLeague

1/21/03
(Z)

TheWinD defeats (T)

Oddysay at 2002 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

TheWinD at 2002 3rd OnGameNet Dual Tournament

1/28/03
(P)

Nazgul defeats (T)

XellOs at 2003 KPGA Team League Pre-Season (!!!)

I think I'll pause here and let that sink in...

Boonbag

France3318 Posts

April 17 2014 08:51 GMT

#65

naz has secret numerous achievements no one knows about

JohnChoi

1773 Posts

April 17 2014 08:54 GMT

#66

NAZGUL IS KING
SSL10 CHAMPION!

Boonbag

France3318 Posts

April 17 2014 09:19 GMT

#67

On April 17 2014 17:54 JohnChoi wrote:
NAZGUL IS KING
SSL10 CHAMPION!

nazgul for a soy sauce bath

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 07 2014 07:22 GMT

#68

...OK, I guess that's been enough time.

3/4/03
(T)

Classic_NT defeats (P)

Nazgul at OCL2003-1
(T)

Spoon defeats (T)

Classic_NT at OCL2003-1

4/8/03
(Z)

Side defeats (T)

Spoon at OCL2003-1

(ruling: The WCG 2003 Korean qualifiers is a standard event on TLPD, but it seems highly unlikely that it was broadcast it any way, given the number of games played over two days.)

7/10/03
(P)

Nal_rA defeats (Z)

Side at 2003 iTV Rivals

(ruling: Wait, how long did the WCG qualifiers take?! See above...)
+ Show Spoiler +

8/20/03

YellOw defeats (P)

Nal_rA at CJ GO All-Star
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

YellOw at CJ GO All-Star
(Ruling: Anything with a sponsor and a reasonable number of games was probably broadcast... Nothing really out there about this one, though.)

8/28/03
(Z)

JinNam defeats (T)

XellOs at 2003 iTV Rivals

8/31/03
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (Z)

JinNam at 6th iTV Ranking League

9/5/03
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at MyCube OSL

EDIT: All-star events are not competitive and thus don't count. Luckily (for me), this doesn't change things too much...

8/29/03
Nada defeats Nal_ra at MyCube OSL

9/12/03
Yellow defeats Nada at MyCube OSL

9/19/03
(Z)

Junwi defeats (Z)

YellOw at MyCube OSL

10/3/03
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

Junwi at MyCube OSL

10/26/03
(P)

Kingdom defeats (T)

XellOs at 2003-2004 KTF Bigi Premier League(1st) [WTF?]

11/2/03
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (P)

Kingdom at (that thing above)

11/23/03
(T)

XellOs defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at (same)

12/6/03
(P)

RainBOw defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at pmang Proleague

12/12/03
(Z)

Junwi defeats (P)

RainBOw at NHN OSL

1/9/04
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

Junwi at NHN OSL

1/30/04
(P)

Reach defeats (T)

NaDa at NHN OSL

2/6/04
(P)

Zeus defeats (P)

Reach at NHN OSL

3/21/04
(P)

Nal_rA defeats (P)

Zeus at NHN OSL (Bo5 finals)

4/16/04
(Z)

JJu defeats (P)

Nal_rA at Gillette Pre-Season [were these broadcast? I don't know...]

4/29/04
(P)

GGon defeats (Z)

JJu at 7th iTV Ranking League [those names...]

5/15/04
(Z)

SiR@SoNi defeats (P)

GGon at SKY2004 Proleague R1

6/1/04
(P)

Autumn defeats (Z)

SiR@SoNi at G-Voice OCL

6/14/04
(T)

ChRh defeats (P)

Autumn at MBC Survivor 4th

6/28/04
(T)

Midas defeats (T)

ChRh at MBC Survivor 4th

8/10/04
(P)

RainBOw defeats (T)

Midas at Tuscon Team League
(T)

XellOs defeats (P)

RainBOw at Tuscon Team League

8/15/04
(T)

Midas defeats (T)

XellOs at WCG2004 Korea
(Ruling: The last couple rounds of that qualifier were broadcast, the VODs are in TLPD)

8/27/04
(Z)

YellOw defeats (T)

Midas at EVER2004 OSL

9/24/04
(T)

Goodfriend defeats (Z)

YellOw at EVER2004 OSL

10/7/04
(Z)

][Min][Gu][ defeats (T)

Goodfriend at YATGK MSL

11/3/04
(T)

Gloomy defeats (Z)

][Min][Gu][ at GameTV Newcomers

11/17/04
(P)

Pusan defeats (T)

Gloomy at GameTV Newcomers
[Thank god, that was (T)

Gloomy's last ever non-qualifier game!]

11/23/04
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

Pusan at MBCMovies Team League

12/11/04
(Z)

Qoo)Siva defeats (T)

NaDa at SKY2004 Proleague R3

...and (Z)

Qoo)Siva still has the championship going into 2005.

I'll finish this eventually, I swear...

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19228 Posts

August 07 2014 12:33 GMT

#69

Can you update OP to have the complete list? Thanks.

Glomblor

Australia26 Posts

August 07 2014 14:04 GMT

#70

Edit - nvm Zeus beat Reach also.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 08 2014 04:35 GMT

#71

So this gets, uhh, interesting...

1/15/05
(Z)

SiR@SoNi defeats (Z)

Qoo)Siva at SKY2004 Proleague R3

1/22/05
(T)

iloveoov defeats (Z)

SiR@SoNi at MBCMovies Team League

2/3/05
(P)

EJi defeats (T)

iloveoov at MBCMovies Team League

[waiting...]
[waiting...]
[waiting...]
[OK, he finally played in Proleague again on 10/18... wait, he won? And beat (P)

Stork?!]
[waiting...]
[waiting...]
[waiting...]

So this is actually the same place Nimdil got to in his first run. I don't know what he changed after that, but whatever he did avoided it. If there are any (P)

EJi fans out there (???) who want to proclaim him the king of Brood War, feel free to do so. I'm going to go ahead and count the 2006 Evaluation League, (P)

EJi's second-to-last non-qualifier event. The last one was the SPL Exhibition 08-09, at which (P)

EJi lost to (T)

Yooi in the latter's last ever game, so that wouldn't really help.

2/27/06
(Z)

bOy defeats (P)

EJi at 2006 Evaluation League

5/11/06
(T)

Memory defeats (Z)

bOy at 2006 Newcomer Evaluation Tournament

8/22/06
(T)

Hwasin defeats (T)

Memory at MBC Survivor 9th
free defeats (T)

Hwasin at MBC Survivor 9th
[Yay, finally out of the woods!]

9/4/06
(P)

Anytime defeats free at SKY2006 Proleague R2

9/15/06
(T)

Midas defeats (P)

Anytime at Shinhan2006-2 OSL

9/16/06
(Z)

FruitDealer (!!!) defeats (T)

Midas at SKY2006 Proleague R2

9/24/06
(Z)

Jaedong defeats Fruitdelaer at SKY2006 Proleague R2

11/12/06
(Z)

Luxury defeats (Z)

Jaedong at SKY2006 Proleague R2

1/2/07
(T)

DarkElf defeats (Z)

Luxury at MBC Survivor 10th

2/12/07
(T)

Justin defeats (T)

DarkElf at MBC Survivor 10th

3/9/07
(P)

Stork defeats (T)

Justin at 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup
(P)

Chalrenge defeats (P)

Stork at 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup

4/15/07
(Z)

ChoJJa defeats (P)

Chalrenge at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

4/29/07
(P)

Much defeats (Z)

ChoJJa at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

5/19/07
(P)

Stork defeats (P)

Much at GOMTV MSL S2

5/27/07
(T)

Leta defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

6/4/07
(P)

BestGod defeats (T)

Leta at Shinhan07 Proleague R1

8/11/07
(T)

DarkElf defeats (P)

BestGod at Seoul e-Sports Festival
[Ruling: According to the TL thread, this event was broadcast on GOMTV]

8/12/07
(T)

Shine[Name] defeats (T)

DarkElf at Seoul e-Sports Festival
(T)

Memory defeats (T)

Shine[Name] at Seoul e-Sports Festival
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

Memory at Seoul e-Sports Festival

8/13/07
(Z)

July defeats (Z)

Jaedong at WCG2007 Korea
[was broadcast according to TL thread]

8/17/07
(P)

Stork defeats (Z)

July at WCG2007 Korea

8/19/07
(T)

Hwasin defeats (P)

Stork at WCG2007 Korea

[Again, all-star events don't count]

9/28/07
(T)

Light defeats (T)

Hwasin at EVER2007 OSL

9/29/07
(P)

Rock defeats (T)

Hwasin at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/12/07
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Rock at EVER2007 OSL

10/14/07
(P)

Pusan defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/17/07
(P)

MuJuK defeats (P)

Pusan at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/24/07
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

MuJuK at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

10/26/07
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

NaDa at EVER2007 OSL

11/2/07
(P)

Stork defeats (Z)

Jaedong at EVER2007 OSL

11/11/07
(P)

Much defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

12/4/07
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Much at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

12/15/07
(Z)

Calm defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

12/23/07
(T)

DarkElf defeats (Z)

Calm at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

1/2/08
(T)

XellOs defeats (T)

DarkElf at ODT2007-3

1/7/08
(Z)

GoRush defeats (T)

XellOs at Shinhan07 Proleague R2

1/17/08
(T)

Light defeats (Z)

GoRush at GOMTV MSL S4
(T)

Shine[Name] defeats (T)

Light at GOMTV MSL S4

1/29/08 (???)
(T)

Mind defeats (T)

Shine[Name] at GOMTV MSL S4
[Why is this series listed over two different days?]

2/17/08
(Z)

sAviOr defeats (T)

Mind at GOMTV Star Invitational
(P)

Anytime defeats (Z)

sAviOr at GOMTV Star Invitational

2/27/08
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Anytime at GOMTV Star Invitational

4/12/08
(T)

Canata defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan08 Proleague

4/27/08
(P)

Stork defeats (T)

Canata at Shinhan08 Proleague

4/30/08
(T)

HiyA defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan08 Proleague

5/24/08
(T)

Midas defeats (T)

HiyA at Shinhan08 Proleague

5/27/08
(Z)

815 defeats (T)

Midas at Shinhan08 Proleague

6/8/08
(P)

Spear defeats (Z)

815 at Shinhan08 Proleague

6/15/08
(T)

FrOzen defeats (P)

Spear at Shinhan08 Proleague

8/12/08
Best defeats (T)

FrOzen at STX Masters 2008

8/15/08
(T)

Sea defeats Best at STX Masters 2008

8/19/08
(Z)

Calm defeats (T)

Sea at STX Masters 2008

8/23/08
(T)

RuBy defeats (Z)

Calm at MBC Survivor 15th

[Ruling: MBC vs OGN is a showmatch and not eligible.]

10/4/08
(T)

Hwasin defeats (T)

RuBy at ClubDay MSL

10/16/08
(P)

Bisu defeats (T)

Hwasin at ClubDay MSL

11/17/08
free defeats (P)

Bisu at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

11/25/08
(T)

Flash defeats free at Shinhan08-09 Proleague
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/2/08
(Z)

RorO defeats (Z)

ZerO at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/6/08
(Z)

hyvaa defeats (Z)

RorO at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/24/08
(P)

Movie defeats (Z)

hyvaa at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

12/30/08
(T)

Flash defeats (P)

Movie at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

OK, so TLPD results are starting to swim before my eyes... I think now would be a good place to pause.

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21242 Posts

August 08 2014 04:55 GMT

#72

Thanks for the work excited to see the result o.o!

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 08 2014 06:28 GMT

#73

After a quick iRacing demolition derby...

1/4/09
(P)

Bisu defeats (T)

Flash at GOM Classic Season 2

1/9/09
(Z)

by.hero defeats (P)

Bisu at Batoo OSL

1/17/09
(Z)

YellOw[ArnC] defeats (Z)

by.hero at Lost Saga MSL

1/18/09
(P)

GuemChi defeats (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
(T)

Leta defeats (P)

GuemChi at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
free defeats (T)

Leta at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

1/21/09
(T)

Iris defeats free at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

1/31/09
(P)

JangBi defeats (T)

Iris at Lost Saga MSL

2/1/09
(Z)

keke defeats (P)

JangBi at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/10/09
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (Z)

keke at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/17/09
(P)

Jila defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/18/09
(Z)

Luxury defeats (P)

Jila at Batoo OSL

[Ruling: Lost Saga MSL match that ended 2/19/09 doesn't count because it started before (Z)

Luxury had the title]

2/21/09
(T)

Light defeats (Z)

Luxury at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
(T)

Flash defeats (T)

Light at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

2/24/09
(T)

PianO defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

3/1/09
(T)

NaDa defeats (T)

PianO at Shinhan 2009 Winners League
free defeats (T)

NaDa at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

3/8/09
(Z)

July defeats free at Shinhan 2009 Winners League

4/21/09
(T)

Sea defeats (Z)

July at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/3/09
(Z)

RorO defeats (T)

Sea at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/6/09
(T)

Casy defeats (Z)

RorO at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/12/09
(T)

firebathero defeats (T)

Casy at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

5/18/09
(P)

Violet defeats (T)

firebathero at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

6/9/09
(P)

GuemChi defeats (P)

Violet at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

6/28/09
(T)

FanTaSy defeats (P)

GuemChi at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

7/6/09
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (T)

FanTaSy at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

7/26/09
(P)

Stork defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan08-09 Proleague
(Z)

EffOrt defeats (P)

Stork at Shinhan08-09 Proleague
(T)

Iris defeats (Z)

EffOrt at GOM Classic Season 3

8/1/09
(P)

PerfectMan defeats (T)

Iris at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

8/8/09
(P)

Bisu defeats (P)

PerfectMan at Shinhan08-09 Proleague

[ruling: Ultimate PL 2009 and 2009 OGN Team Evaluation are showmatches, the former isn't even melee games]

10/14/09
(Z)

Shine defeats (P)

Bisu at EVER2009 OSL

10/24/09
(T)

Light defeats (Z)

Shine [lol] at MBC Survivor 18th

10/26/09
(P)

Pure defeats (T)

Light at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

11/08/09
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

Pure at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

11/23/09
(Z)

EffOrt defeats (Z)

ZerO at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

11/27/09
(Z)

Shine defeats (Z)

EffOrt at EVER2009 OSL

11/29/09
(Z)

Action defeats (Z)

Shine at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

[Ruling: KeSPA Dream League was not broadcast according to TL thread]

12/07/09
(Z)

YellOw defeats (Z)

Action at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

12/12/09
(T)

NaDa defeats (Z)

YellOw at IeSF Star Invitational

12/28/09
(Z)

YellOw defeats (T)

NaDa at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

1/6/10
(Z)

Calm defeats (Z)

YellOw at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

1/19/10
(T)

Flash defeats (Z)

Calm at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

1/23/10
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

Flash at NATE MSL

1/26/10
(T)

Flash defeats (Z)

Jaedong at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

2/7/10
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan 2010 Winners League
(P)

Stats defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

3/7/10
(Z)

RorO defeats (P)

Stats at Shinhan 2010 Winners League
(T)

Flash defeats (Z)

RorO at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

3/13/10
(T)

Leta defeats (T)

Flash at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

3/16/10
(Z)

Jaedong defeats (T)

Leta at Shinhan 2010 Winners League

4/1/10
(T)

TY defeats (Z)

Jaedong at Hana Daetoo MSL

4/15/10
(T)

Mvp defeats (T)

TY at Hana Daetoo MSL

4/28/10
(T)

sKyHigh defeats (T)

Mvp at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

5/8/10
(Z)

s2 defeats (T)

sKyHigh at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

6/10/10
(P)

Stork defeats (Z)

s2 at MBC Survivor 20th
(T)

Sea defeats (P)

Stork at MBC Survivor 20th

6/14/10
(P)

Flying defeats (T)

Sea at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

6/26/10
(T)

NaDa defeats (P)

Flying at Shinhan09-10 Proleague

And... uh... well. That was (T)

NaDa's second-to-last BW game, and he won the last one, against (T)

TurN. So this means that...

NaDa is the all-time champion of professional Brood War!

Thank you, thank you very much. I'm sure this will make some people quite happy.

Next steps: Tracking the title into (T)

NaDa's SC2 career. And TLPD says that (T)

NaDa played one game in SOSPA? Does it fit within the rules?

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 09 2014 05:33 GMT

#74

I can't edit the OP, it's too old I guess...

Anyone want to check my work? I'm sure I screwed up somewhere... and there's no one willing to defend the rightful championship of (P)

EJi?

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 09 2014 06:35 GMT

#75

OP edited! Thanks Shellshock.

Anyway, I'm willing to continue this into SOSPA, but I don't want to fudge it too much. So about Nada's supposed one game there, in this post... was that played in studio and broadcast live? And are we really sure that's actually Nada? It seems weird that he would only play one game...

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

August 09 2014 06:57 GMT

#76

Thanks for the great work!
I think we could live with that body to be the inofficial world champion

The SOSPA match seems to be a KoTH series, so Nada lost one game and Movie went on defending the king crown ...
I think we need an official ruling for "retiring" players, because it's a little sad that it ends 5 years ago!
Would really love to see if we accept Movie's win (and then Larva's win in the same event) and see where it goes from there!

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 11 2014 07:00 GMT

#77

Whatever, it counts until further notice, because I'm bored.

1/14/13
(P)

Movie defeats (T)

NaDa at King of the Hill
(Z)

Larva defeats (P)

Movie at ' '

1/16/13
(P)

Perry defeats (Z)

Larva at Sonic All-Stars Team League
[ruling: Yes, I said earlier that all-stars matches weren't "competitive", but I'm applying different standards to SOSPA.]

1/17/13
(T)

Mong defeats (P)

Perry at ' '

1/25/13
(T)

HiyA defeats (T)

Mong at 12th Ranking Tournament

1/30/13
(P)

Movie defeats (T)

HiyA at ' '

2/8/13
(P)

Shuttle defeats (P)

Movie at New Year's Super Match

2/19/13
(P)

Movie defeats (P)

Shuttle at 8th SSL Seeding Match

2/22/13
(T)

Sea defeats (P)

Movie at King of the Hill
(P)

ErOs_Lucifer defeats (T)

Sea at ' '
(Z)

ZeLoT defeats (P)

ErOs_Lucifer at ' '
(T)

HiyA defeats (Z)

ZeLoT at ' '

3/8/13
(Z)

Cola defeats (T)

HiyA at itemBay 8th SSL
(T)

sSak defeats (Z)

Cola at ' '

3/27/13
(P)

Tyson defeats (T)

sSak at 1st Race Wars
(T)

HiyA defeats (P)

Tyson at ' '

4/4/13
(Z)

Killer defeats (T)

HiyA at ' '

4/9/13
(T)

HiyA defeats (Z)

Killer at ' '

4/11/13
(T)

Mong defeats (T)

HiyA at Sonic Star Team Battle

4/16/13
(P)

Shuttle defeats (T)

Mong at ' '

4/19/13
(Z)

Killer defeats (P)

Shuttle at April 17th-19th Super Match
(T)

Sea defeats (Z)

Killer at ' '

5/3/13
(P)

Shuttle defeats (T)

Sea at Sonic vs Bay Team Battle

5/10/13
(T)

Notice defeats (P)

Shuttle at King of the Hill
(Z)

BJ Sonic defeats (T)

Notice at ' ' [lol]

6/13/13
(P)

Olympus defeats (Z)

BJ Sonic at ' ' [Sonic's last match]

7/26/13
(P)

Tyson defeats (P)

Olympus at 15th Ranking Tournament
(T)

Sea defeats (P)

Tyson at ' '

10/4/13
(T)

HiyA defeats (T)

Sea at 17th Ranking Tournament

10/11/13
(T)

Sea defeats (T)

HiyA at ' '

10/22/13
(P)

Shuttle defeats (T)

Sea at 18th Ranking Tournament

11/5/13
(Z)

Cola defeats (P)

Shuttle at 1st KotH Proleague
(P)

Britney defeats (Z)

Cola at ' '
(T)

Mong defeats (P)

Britney at ' '
(Z)

by.hero defeats (T)

Mong at ' '

11/6/13
(Z)

beast defeats (Z)

by.hero at ' '

11/7/13
(T)

LearN..1023 defeats (Z)

beast at ' '
(Z)

Killer defeats (T)

LearN..1023 at ' '
(T)

Shinee defeats (Z)

Killer at ' '
(T)

HiyA defeats (T)

Shinee at ' '

11/8/13
(T)

sSak defeats (T)

HiyA at ' '

11/19/13
(P)

Mini defeats (T)

sSak at ' '
(P)

Bisu defeats (P)

Mini at ' ' [finally... someone is going to be happy...]
(Z)

by.hero defeats (P)

Bisu at ' '

11/21/13
(T)

Shinee defeats (Z)

by.hero at ' '

11/22/13
(Z)

beast defeats (T)

Shinee at ' '
(P)

Hi defeats (Z)

beast at ' '
(T)

kkong defeats (P)

Hi at ' ' [Hi's last match]

11/26/13
(P)

Hint defeats (T)

kkong at ' '
(Z)

beast defeats (P)

Hint at ' '
(Z)

ZergMaN defeats (Z)

beast at ' '
(P)

Air defeats (Z)

ZergMaN at ' '
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

Air at ' '
(Z)

Killer defeats (Z)

ZerO at ' '
(T)

PianO defeats (Z)

Killer at ' '

11/27/13 [finally!]
(P)

Pusan defeats (T)

PianO at ' '

12/3/13
(P)

Bisu defeats (P)

Pusan at ' '
(P)

Lazy defeats (P)

Bisu at ' '

12/4/13
(P)

Shuttle defeats (P)

Lazy at ' '

12/17/13
(P)

Movie defeats (P)

Shuttle at ' '

12/18/13
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

Movie at ' '

12/23/13
(P)

JangBi defeats (T)

Mind at ' '
(Z)

Modesty defeats (P)

JangBi at ' '
(Z)

ZerO defeats (Z)

Modesty at ' '

12/24/13
(T)

Sea defeats (Z)

ZerO at ' '
(P)

JangBi defeats (T)

Sea at ' '
(P)

Tyson defeats (P)

JangBi at ' '
(P)

Brave defeats (P)

Tyson at ' '
(P)

Lazy defeats (P)

Brave at ' '

1/2/14
(T)

PianO defeats (P)

Lazy at ' '
(P)

Tyson defeats (T)

PianO at ' '

2/10/14
(T)

sSak defeats (P)

Tyson at Gabangpop 1st Sonic Proleague [YAY THE LAST ONE IS FINALLY OVER]
(T)

Sea defeats (T)

sSak at ' '

3/17/14
free defeats (T)

Sea at ' '
(P)

Lazy defeats free at ' '
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

Lazy at ' '

3/20/14
(T)

Midas defeats (Z)

ZerO at 2nd LoveTV Starleague
(T)

sSak defeats (T)

Midas at ' '

3/26/14
(P)

Zeus defeats (T)

sSak at Gabangpop 1st Sonic Proleague
(P)

Pure defeats (P)

Zeus at ' '
(Z)

Cola defeats (P)

Pure at ' '
(P)

Bisu defeats (Z)

Cola at ' '

4/16/14
(Z)

Modesty defeats (P)

Bisu at ' ' [Bisu's last match as of now, 4 months later]
(Z)

Larva defeats (Z)

Modesty at ' '
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

Larva at ' '

6/25/14
(T)

PianO defeats (T)

Mind at SBENU Allstars

7/3/14
(T)

sSak defeats (T)

PianO at ' '

(T)

sSak went on to win that event. Therefore, the current unofficial Brood War world champion is sSak.

Someone else keep this updated, I never want to look at TLPD again...

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

September 20 2014 16:54 GMT

#78

8/17/14

Sky defeats (T)

sSak at 4440_41_Starleague_Season_2

8/29/14
(Z)

Killer defeats (P)

Sky at ''

8/30/14
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

Killer at ''

Mind is current UWC!

Yonnua

United Kingdom2331 Posts

September 21 2014 00:10 GMT

#79

One problem with the continuing into SOSPA is that Nada played a televised legend match at the TVing OSL Quarterfinals in 2012 (it was live and televised, so presumably counts) and he lost that match to Anytime.

EDIT: Although Mind should still be UWC, just getting there via a different route.

GreenAndOrangeTurtle

Australia193 Posts

September 21 2014 08:26 GMT

#80

From above:

[B]On August 07 2014 16:22 bduddy wrote:[/B
EDIT: All-star events are not competitive and thus don't count. Luckily (for me), this doesn't change things too much...

So Nadas Legends match probably doesn't count as it is an exhibition match and not really competitive.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

October 08 2014 04:52 GMT

#81

On September 21 2014 17:26 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
From above:

Show nested quote +

So Nadas Legends match probably doesn't count as it is an exhibition match and not really competitive.

I agree with this reasoning. Maybe if he had never played in SOSPA I could have stretched the rules, but...

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

November 05 2014 08:05 GMT

#82

I don't actually watch SoSPA, so someone help me out here... Should the 2014 LoveTV SponLeague Map Test be allowed under the rules?

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

January 06 2015 09:04 GMT

#83

OK, I checked on the threads, and the above event was definitely a series of exhibitions, not a tournament.

Anyway...

12/13/14
(T)

Sea defeats (T)

Mind at Ssabi Super Tour

1/3/15
(T)

PianO defeats (T)

Sea at Kongdoo Starz League

The KSL winner will almost certainly be the UWC.

TaShadan

Germany1966 Posts

January 06 2015 13:52 GMT

#84

Bisu plz!

IntoTheWow

is awesome32274 Posts

January 06 2015 14:55 GMT

#85

The current champion plays free, mind and JangBi, in that order. lol.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

January 12 2015 09:13 GMT

#86

Didn't realize these were being played at the same time...

1/8/15
(P)

free defeats (T)

PianO at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

February 02 2015 09:33 GMT

#87

1/15/15

JangBi defeats (P)

free at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague

1/25/15
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

JangBi at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague (tiebreakers)
(P)

free defeats (T)

Mind at ' '
(P)

JangBi defeats (P)

free at ' '
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

JangBi at ' '
(P)

free defeats (T)

Mind at ' '
(P)

JangBi defeats (P)

free at ' '
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

JangBi at ' '
(P)

free defeats (T)

Mind at ' '

1/29/15
(T)

Mong defeats (P)

free at 10th SonicTV BJ Starleague

2/1/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Mong at Kongdoo Starz League

LOL that tiebreaker

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

February 11 2015 08:59 GMT

#88

2/7/15

Kwanro defeats (Z)

ZerO at Kongdoo Starz League

Unless Kwanro enters some other random event, the winner of the KSL will be the BW UWC.

c3rberUs

Japan11286 Posts

February 11 2015 14:14 GMT

#89

LOL that tiebreaker indeed

They just handed over the championship to each other and finally gave it back to Free lol

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

February 11 2015 14:19 GMT

#90

Amazing how NaDa somehow became the unofficial greatest-of-all-time. But I guess that's what you get for playing for forever.

Vasoline73

United States7801 Posts

February 11 2015 16:16 GMT

#91

815, you made it buddy.

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19228 Posts

February 11 2015 19:51 GMT

#92

I love the (P)

Nazgul made the list! Most badass TLPD pic too.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

March 02 2015 04:34 GMT

#93

3/1/15

Mind defeats (Z)

Kwanro at Kongdoo Starz League (finals)

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

March 17 2015 08:17 GMT

#94

Was that Piano Starleague not there before? I swear, if people are slipping in events after they occurred, that could throw the whole thing off...

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19228 Posts

March 17 2015 12:01 GMT

#95

On March 17 2015 17:17 bduddy wrote:
Was that Piano Starleague not there before? I swear, if people are slipping in events after they occurred, that could throw the whole thing off...

Piano starleague is sponsored by piano and not a true starleague.

Dumbledore

Sweden725 Posts

March 17 2015 12:36 GMT

#96

Thats some serious work going on in here :O

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

April 07 2015 09:15 GMT

#97

Welp, I just noticed that none of the amateur leagues are TLPD-izing properly - they all link to TLPD Korean instead of TLPD Amateur. And yes, I am right-clicking on the button and picking the 'BW SOSPA' option...

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

April 07 2015 15:24 GMT

#98

So...we will not use one of those recent starleagues (Piano, HoSic, Terror, 41 Maki) for the UWC!? What is the next major event?

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

April 07 2015 15:48 GMT

#99

On April 08 2015 00:24 Geisterkarle wrote:
So...we will not use one of those recent starleagues (Piano, HoSic, Terror, 41 Maki) for the UWC!? What is the next major event?

SSL 11 and KSL 2

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

April 07 2015 15:50 GMT

#100

On April 08 2015 00:24 Geisterkarle wrote:
So...we will not use one of those recent starleagues (Piano, HoSic, Terror, 41 Maki) for the UWC!? What is the next major event?

Oh, maybe you haven't noticed, but I have been updating the OP...

3/8/15
(T)

Last defeats (T)

Mind at PianO Starleague

3/14/15
(P)

free defeats (T)

Last at PianO Starleague

3/15/15
(Z)

ZerO defeats (P)

free at PianO Starleague (finals, sort of)

3/16/15
(Z)

by.hero defeats (Z)

ZerO at HoSic Starleague S2

3/21/15
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

by.hero at HoSic Starleague S2

3/28/15
(P)

Bisu defeats (T)

Mind at Terror Starleague

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

April 07 2015 19:58 GMT

#101

ah sorry, I always look at the last page of this thread and not the OP! My bad!

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

April 27 2015 06:00 GMT

#102

Bisu may hold this for a while... when's the next tournament?

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

April 27 2015 19:55 GMT

#103

Liquipedia talks about two upcoming tournaments.
We have details for the Draemong Starleague, but Bisu is not in there.
The other is the 11th SonicTV Starleague. No information there!

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

June 08 2015 06:40 GMT

#104

After a long wait, (P)

Bisu retains again... if he doesn't enter another tournament, it'll be at least July before his next SSL match, making a reign of over three months!

c3rberUs

Japan11286 Posts

June 08 2015 12:18 GMT

#105

Man, that's a long time assuming Bisu doesn't participate in any online tournaments. That's highly unlikely though.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

June 09 2015 08:16 GMT

#106

If Bisu goes to the military... X_X

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

July 05 2015 02:59 GMT

#107

Bisu has now held the title for over 3 months - can he take it all the way to his military service, or will someone else manage to take it at SSL? It's also possible, in these full round-robin groups, that someone ( (Z)

hero or

Larva) could win the title but fail to advance.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

July 15 2015 18:49 GMT

#108

The streak is over! And the SSL champion will officially be BW UWC, unless another tournament starts before then.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 18 2015 06:13 GMT

#109

On July 16 2015 03:49 bduddy wrote:
The streak is over! And the SSL champion will officially be BW UWC, unless another tournament starts before then.

Thanks,

Jaehoon, for ruining everything...

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

October 27 2015 07:04 GMT

#110

If anyone cares, yes, I'm still doing this.

Sea is unsurprisingly the champion, and I'm ruling that the KCM Legend Match (a series of exhibitions) doesn't count as a title defense.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

February 04 2016 06:36 GMT

#111

Interesting dilemma - should walkovers (as in the 41 Starleague) count as official matches? I know no one else cares, but it's important to me... ;_;

Zera

Lithuania716 Posts

February 04 2016 06:55 GMT

#112

well, technically there is a winner, so I think it should count.

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

May 18 2016 07:43 GMT

#113

Ok, Effort had a good and long run, but I think we have to update:
Quite funny though

Old and busted:
1/18/16
(Z)

EffOrt defeats (Z)

ZerO at VANT Starleague

New:
4/9/16
(Z)

ZerO defeats (Z)

EffOrt at Terror NINUS Starleague

They switched places

And how do you link those leagues correctly? The tlpd link is ".../tlpd/korean/..:" and it should be ".../tlpd/sospa/..."

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 26 2016 09:08 GMT

#114

You missed a few. Here's how it really went:

2/11/16
(T)

Sharp did not defeat (Z)

EffOrt at GaePpulBae SikSin League (TLPD is incorrect, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmMfkZZyDYk)
(Z)

ZerO defeats (Z)

EffOrt at GaePpulBae SikSin League

3/12/16
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

ZerO at Terror NINUS Starleague

4/2/16
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Mind at Terror NINUS Starleague

4/16/16
(T)

Mind defeats (Z)

ZerO at Kim Carry Myeongin Starleague

4/17/16
(T)

Last defeats (T)

Mind at Kim Carry Myeongin Starleague

5/1/16
(Z)

ZerO defeats (T)

Last at Kim Carry Myeongin Starleague

5/22/16
(T)

Last defeats (Z)

ZerO at Kim Carry Myeongin Starleague

...and Last has carried the championship to the ASL semifinals.

TLPD-ize doesn't work properly for BW amateur leagues...

EDIT: for some reason I can't edit the first post again?

DracoVolantus

Poland231 Posts

August 26 2016 16:09 GMT

#115

It sounds correct. God is dead. Long live God.

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

August 29 2016 15:58 GMT

#116

8/29/16

Shuttle defeats (T)

Last at Afreeca Starleague

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

February 18 2017 01:31 GMT

#117

Yes, yellow warning bar, I do have a good reason...

+ Show Spoiler +

11/8/16

by.hero defeats (P)

Shuttle at Nal_rA Starleague

Not correct - reported incorrectly in TLPD

11/10/16
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

Shuttle at Nal_rA Starleague
(T)

Flash defeats (T)

Mind at Nal_rA Starleague

And... huh, that (T)

Flash guy is good, isn't he?

FlaShFTW

United States10131 Posts

February 18 2017 02:22 GMT

#118

On February 18 2017 10:31 bduddy wrote:
Yes, yellow warning bar, I do have a good reason...

+ Show Spoiler +

11/8/16

by.hero defeats (P)

Shuttle at Nal_rA Starleague

Not correct - reported incorrectly in TLPD

11/10/16
(T)

Mind defeats (P)

Shuttle at Nal_rA Starleague
(T)

Flash defeats (T)

Mind at Nal_rA Starleague

And... huh, that (T)

Flash guy is good, isn't he?

inb4 flash loses it tonight.

LittLeLives

United States692 Posts

February 18 2017 05:21 GMT

#119

inb4 he gets it back in the ace match tonight

bduddy

United States1326 Posts

February 19 2017 06:37 GMT

#120

Flash did not lose it tonight... no, 2v2 matches don't count.

Can someone let me edit the first post again, or...?

FlaShFTW

United States10131 Posts

February 19 2017 10:32 GMT

#121

On February 19 2017 15:37 bduddy wrote:
Flash did not lose it tonight... no, 2v2 matches don't count.

Can someone let me edit the first post again, or...?

what if he lost like.... HALF the unofficial world champion belt? xD regardless, he still has it at the end of the night either way haha