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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 14:59:10
March 19 2013 14:27 GMT
#1
Live Report school is now in session!


      The LR initiative! Viewer numbers for Brood War are getting insane. The average gambit cup game gets viewers in the hundreds. The average TLS event can gather over 2,000 viewers! So where is the issue? Chat rooms for the streams are so active it feels like Brood War did 3 years ago when everyone was participating. But we are still missing a MAJOR factor. The Live Report threads are empty.

      Now, I understand that the term Live Report means that the thread should be reporting for the game but the term is not black and white. I cannot type play by play every game. And even if I did the thread is no fun if it’s filled up with 3 pages straight of the same person posting. So while I love my post count sky rocketing, it has become a lonely venture.

IF EVERY VIEWER POSTED ONCE WE COULD FILL AT LEAST 20 PAGES EVERY TOURNAMENT!

Here is what quality LR posts look like! Be a part of something great!


The standard LR convo from [SWL] Playoffs Day 2: SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung Oz


On March 31 2011 14:16 NathanSC wrote:So hyped to see Bisu all-kill.
On March 31 2011 14:22 hellbound wrote:
Why? Given Bisu is T1 vZ specialist and OZ has a Z backbone I'd say it is very unlikely for that to happen.
On March 31 2011 14:28 Simplistik wrote:
Hmm, no. That is precisely the reason why a Bisu all kill is more likely than normal.
On March 31 2011 14:36 hellbound wrote:
What I meant to say that Bisu should be given the "final boss" role. And the final boss only gets AK when he gets RAK, which is statistically unlikely. I doubt T1 will risk sending him early and getting him sniped by something random [lol hiya, oztoss etc.] with JD and miniJD still to be played.



The epic after thoughts of a game just played: [SWL] KT Rolster vs MBC Game Hero - Page 21

On March 09 2011 14:42 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 14:40 shinjin wrote:
that was brutal.
"lol i dont need tanks"

Some people say a zealot vs zealot battle can be won with one goon
Others say muta vs muta can be won with a pair of scourge
Flash says vulture vs vulture can be won with vultures.



The heated discussion after a finals has been played: [OSL] Korean Air OSL Grand Final - Page 307

On May 24 2010 01:21 G5 wrote:
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On May 24 2010 01:14 purpose wrote:
On May 24 2010 01:12 G5 wrote:
Flash is a class above EffOrt

EffOrt won every game with cheese (except Game 4 which was retarded).

When EffOrt was put against the wall and he was feeling nervous he relied on cheese.

When Flash was put into game 5, he manned up and went 14 CC like a fucking BALLER

i unno man.... I honestly think the better man lost today. God this series games 3-5 made me mad as fuck.


To be 0-2 down in a OSL final vs the player who has dominated SC the last year and turn it into 3-2 victory and you say the better player lost.

Flash overall is a better player then Effort, but in this final effort played better and smarter. And to say he cheesed is just sore loser mentality tbh.


he won off mass zerglings game 3 / 5 and a retard build from flash game 4

I could fucking do what EffOrt did in those games and I don't even play that match up.

Now Game 1 and 2... Game 2 especially. Take game 2 and look at what position Flash was in and how he came back from it, spreading the map, dropping every where, multi-tasking the shit out of effort. There is no doubt in my mind the better player lost today and it's because sometimes all-in works and EffOrt decided to bank on that after he was down 0-2 because he was nervous and Flash already proved he would rape him in a skillful game. You can say i have a sore loser mentality but you have a republican close minded mentality who doesn't look at the games, you just looks at the score and thats good enough for you. Maybe you should get some insight into the games before you open your mouth.



Those loyal (ACE) team fans and epic polls!: [SWL] Air Force ACE vs Hite Entus - Page 3


On March 20 2011 13:30 kassi wrote:
omg. Rock? winning? =D

GO ACE!!
On March 20 2011 13:30 maximuspita wrote:
Look at that MURDER FACE!!!
On March 20 2011 13:31 structuralinertia wrote:
GG! ROCK YES

Poll: Recommend Game 1?

Yes lol (52)
 
95%

No (2)
 
4%

Kinda (1)
 
2%

55 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes lol
(Vote): No
(Vote): Kinda




The quirky comments!: [Masters] STX Masters Cup 2009 Final - Page 22

On August 29 2009 19:58 Camlito wrote:
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On August 29 2009 19:57 GTR wrote:
VOS POST GAME PERFORMANCE?
k-pop invasion lolol


Somehow knew you'd be the first one to comment on the music -_-
On August 29 2009 20:00 konadora wrote:
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On August 29 2009 19:58 Signus wrote:
[image loading]

Tossgirl: "Nice butt"
On August 29 2009 20:05 Sinedd wrote:
STX got Hyuked ... hahahah how hilarious

GJ SKT1 ;]


And finally, the rivalries! [SPL] KT Rolster vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 73

On January 07 2012 13:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On January 07 2012 13:21 Jindo wrote:
On January 07 2012 13:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 07 2012 13:04 Jindo wrote:
Here comes double standard KT fans


what?


On January 07 2012 12:59 mnesthes wrote:
fucking cheeser

On January 07 2012 13:03 Katsuge wrote:
lol skt

On January 07 2012 13:03 Eun_Star wrote:
Bisu...you need to try to improve PvP, not cannon rush. Go play SC2

On January 07 2012 13:03 mnesthes wrote:
Truth: bisu can only win PvP if he cheeses a rookie

On January 07 2012 13:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
On January 07 2012 13:08 konadora wrote:
LOL
BISU: "IT FEELS GOOD WINNING with no skill"


On January 07 2012 13:11 Sawamura wrote:
Woman toss is just too afraid that wooki would have owned him in a straight up fight . Easy win yeah .

KT tears so delicious.

what?




So who is ready to start doing their part and posting in LR threads!?!?!?!?!?!


Why wait, practice now by posting in here! Fill this thread up with comments making it active and appealing to people who may be post shy. What are you waiting for, do iiiitttttttt!!!!!!!!


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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 19 2013 14:32 GMT
#2
So hyped to see Bisu all-kill.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 19 2013 14:39 GMT
#3
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 19 2013 14:46 GMT
#4
Because it doesn't have the same appeal anymore.

The fun of the LR for me was bashing the KT fanboys, hyping Bisu and cheering for SKT, but all of that is gone.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
dsaqwe.
Profile Joined February 2011
Croatia274 Posts
March 19 2013 14:54 GMT
#5
GOGO LR Thread !
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
March 19 2013 14:59 GMT
#6
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

I think I squeezed you in there ^^
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
March 19 2013 15:01 GMT
#7
This is a pretty good question. Why did the people stop posting in LR threads even though the numbers are still high?

I think the biggest reason is that streams have their own chat now and people discuss the games there. But still, I think bringing back some of the hype we had in old LR threads would be so awesome. I try to post in LR threads as much as I can, but from now on I'll try even more!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
March 19 2013 15:07 GMT
#8
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
March 19 2013 15:12 GMT
#9
On March 20 2013 00:07 thezanursic wrote:
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.

I see this issue too. The obvious reason to post in LR is that when people can always read through the thread to see reactions and participate in discussion during and AFTER the game is over. Chatting live is great but like you said LR is a transcript with no words because no one talks in there anymore. When I go back to 2011 I can read every page of an LR for 50-100 pages and know what happened feel the vibes and tensions from the past. Now when I see and LR it's just a page for results. Is that really what it has come too?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
March 19 2013 15:30 GMT
#10
On March 20 2013 00:12 BisuDagger wrote:
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On March 20 2013 00:07 thezanursic wrote:
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.

I see this issue too. The obvious reason to post in LR is that when people can always read through the thread to see reactions and participate in discussion during and AFTER the game is over. Chatting live is great but like you said LR is a transcript with no words because no one talks in there anymore. When I go back to 2011 I can read every page of an LR for 50-100 pages and know what happened feel the vibes and tensions from the past. Now when I see and LR it's just a page for results. Is that really what it has come too?

Yeah, but TL can implement something like this without going against Twitch. they implement their own chat next to the stream on the stream page. And that chat is linked to the LR thread.

Get on it RICH!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 19 2013 15:40 GMT
#11
On March 19 2013 23:46 fabiano wrote:
Because it doesn't have the same appeal anymore.

The fun of the LR for me was bashing the KT fanboys, hyping Bisu and cheering for SKT, but all of that is gone.


Yeah I think fabiano has a point here and that is back than we had a professional scene going into live report makes it seem worth while because it's your team playing during the games and you being in the live report is like supporting your team. Well that's how I take it to be and back than I guess it was fun because the other like the person I am quoting will start calling names like Kt Trash Lolster and I will be on the trail shutting them down if I can .

Also back than I believe we had a dedicated live reporter who frequently LR during games (what happen to that carrier guy skt fan guy (Zona ??) ). Your team standings are at stake and as a fan most of us were there to comment about the game no matter how bad we were at live reporting and it also was contributed by the hype and professional scene we use to have .

I can't blame the lack luster of response in the live report this days for SSL some of the games were not interesting and that I mean it was really kind of low compared to the quality we had back than .Although this is to be expected because some of the players who were playing were amateurs and unknown and if the SSL gets to the serious business stage ex broodwar professional going head to head in to mortal kombat and the games are exciting .I will probably be one of the person to be making some comments on the live report.

Nevertheless, Live reporting was fun back than and probably we will can get back the same hype some way or another from the games being more exciting and rivalries to be awaken (If bisu comes back to broodwar and flash retires at the same time to come back to bw) .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 19 2013 16:03 GMT
#12
On March 20 2013 00:07 thezanursic wrote:
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.

if they would do something to being able to post on a thread that is linked in the stream that would get us starting atleast
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 19 2013 16:50 GMT
#13
I really miss the LR-threads from the good old days. It used to be so much fun to socialize in 'em; to have pleasant conversations with friends, to laugh at all the funny comedians around here, to argue with trolls and/or retards who've made me pull my hair in despair so many times I think I'm going bald, to troll and be retarded myself (;D), to cheer for players/teams I really cared deeply and passionately about...

After the high point of watching the last OSL-final live, I have simply not had much time over for BW, and that in combination with the end of the real proscene in Korea has resulted in me losing of lot of enthusiasm for the game. I still tune in to big events (mainly TLS), but I literally never play it anymore, and I don't feel compelled to make 150 posts a week to discuss it. I think I spend more time watching CS:GO these days than BW.

Anywho, I agree that the Twitch chat has sort of replaced the function of the LR-threads. But it does indeed lack the perpetual qualities and the soul that the LR-threads of old had.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
March 19 2013 17:21 GMT
#14
I miss the good old lr threads that weren't just pages upon pages of me talkin to myself. I think the record is 3 and a half pages? If we brought them back; I could finally hit 10k :D
Oh and brood war for life <3
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
March 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#15
People just aren't creating as much hype as they used to, because their favorite players are playing SC2. But don't worry, the foreign Scene Hype will come soon....
+ Show Spoiler +
Michael Hwaiting
Flash should fear Sacsri
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 19 2013 17:25 GMT
#16
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

It never really was fun doing the LR threads for SRT for that reason D:
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
March 19 2013 17:29 GMT
#17
On March 20 2013 02:25 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

It never really was fun doing the LR threads for SRT for that reason D:

I can't help the SRT/SSL stuff because I restream it later in the day Also people can't comment in the thread when they watch it with me because the results will be ruined for them. This is something I haven't found a solution for yet.
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 17:47:10
March 19 2013 17:46 GMT
#18
Skzlime fighting~!

Also, holy balls trutaCz started streaming O_O
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6739 Posts
March 19 2013 18:05 GMT
#19
problem is ..there is not bisu to post about
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 19 2013 18:17 GMT
#20
Without Rock there's just no reason to post anymore. It's like there's a void inside of me...
BW forever || Thall
Capresis
Profile Joined September 2008
United States518 Posts
March 19 2013 18:57 GMT
#21
Killer is pretty hot. Maybe if we all try really hard we can build up a reputation for him comparable to Bisu.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
March 19 2013 19:46 GMT
#22
I would say more people are watching TLS live now than OSL/MSL back in the day. When I got into the scene (2008), livestream viewer numbers were around 400/500 (maybe less?) with many more people watching vods the day after or something like that. I guess it just comes down to hype
I'll post in the threads even if it gets really lonely
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
March 19 2013 19:52 GMT
#23
I fullfill my spam participation duty in nearly every LR thread
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 19 2013 21:39 GMT
#24
On March 20 2013 02:29 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 02:25 KristofferAG wrote:
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

It never really was fun doing the LR threads for SRT for that reason D:

I can't help the SRT/SSL stuff because I restream it later in the day Also people can't comment in the thread when they watch it with me because the results will be ruined for them. This is something I haven't found a solution for yet.

Just spam an entire page in every LR thread before your rebroadcast with "SPOILERS" so that people can jump to the last page and start their own little LR there.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 21:58:29
March 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#25
I might as well post this here maybe more people will read it so I can get an answer. Whenever I watch SSL live on snipealot its in widescreen... I just can't watch BW widescreen, can't do it so I usually wait for the korean vods that are in 4:3 to pop up somewhere (if they come up at all).
So I guess my question would be is there any way to watch the stream in 4:3? Really difficult watching live because of that (btw, would feel really sad if everybody watches it in 4:3 and I'm the only one getting widescreen)
edit: It's not that bad its just weird, does Sonic broadcast in widescreen? And sorry for offtopic
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
March 19 2013 22:14 GMT
#26
On March 20 2013 06:43 Zeo wrote:
I might as well post this here maybe more people will read it so I can get an answer. Whenever I watch SSL live on snipealot its in widescreen... I just can't watch BW widescreen, can't do it so I usually wait for the korean vods that are in 4:3 to pop up somewhere (if they come up at all).
So I guess my question would be is there any way to watch the stream in 4:3? Really difficult watching live because of that (btw, would feel really sad if everybody watches it in 4:3 and I'm the only one getting widescreen)
edit: It's not that bad its just weird, does Sonic broadcast in widescreen? And sorry for offtopic

Last time I've seen an SSL broadcast snipealot2 was up in 4:3 and snipealot3 in 16. An afreeca viewer can switch the ratio with 2 simple clicks so it doesn't matter too much there, sadly twitch doesn't have such option (afaik).
En Taro Violet
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
March 19 2013 22:38 GMT
#27
You have raised many good points of past LR's, but missed the most important one: the MSPaint art. Seriously, while the Proleague ready-made backgrounds were all fine and dandy and the occasional (and later often expected) banners by Hyde/Disciple were stunning, it was the quickly thrown-together basic threads that were best. And of course all the memes relating to teams/players just added to the awesome. Stuff like this, this, this or that just made everything more fun both for live participants and for people reading through the thread later (like me).

LR threads were that awesome mix of a great template, pregame fanboi thrashtalk, quality LR'ing a game (which is really hard, I tried it for some time but couldn't fucking type fast enough), reactions to what happened on screen and post-game strategical analysis. And of course the screenshots/gifs of whatever epic moments we witnessed, splashed with a dash of MSPaint for later enjoyment. This is hard to replicate when many people don't invest this much time/aren't involved with the game. Without a team/player to root for it's hard to get back to old habits of waking up in the middle of the night with your finger ready on the print-screen button and 3 mspaint windows open at a time xD.
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snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
March 19 2013 23:04 GMT
#28
On March 20 2013 06:43 Zeo wrote:
I might as well post this here maybe more people will read it so I can get an answer. Whenever I watch SSL live on snipealot its in widescreen... I just can't watch BW widescreen, can't do it so I usually wait for the korean vods that are in 4:3 to pop up somewhere (if they come up at all).
So I guess my question would be is there any way to watch the stream in 4:3? Really difficult watching live because of that (btw, would feel really sad if everybody watches it in 4:3 and I'm the only one getting widescreen)
edit: It's not that bad its just weird, does Sonic broadcast in widescreen? And sorry for offtopic


As stratos said, for the past two weeks we have been doing dual broadcasts of sonic as there are no fpvs. snipealot2 has the normal 4:3 aspect you are looking for.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2498 Posts
March 19 2013 23:30 GMT
#29
The thing is this: i don' t really care how many people would watch BW. I would watch it even if there was a single person in the chat and a person streaming. Broodwar is like modern day-Chess.
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
March 20 2013 00:11 GMT
#30
On March 20 2013 08:04 snipealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 06:43 Zeo wrote:
I might as well post this here maybe more people will read it so I can get an answer. Whenever I watch SSL live on snipealot its in widescreen... I just can't watch BW widescreen, can't do it so I usually wait for the korean vods that are in 4:3 to pop up somewhere (if they come up at all).
So I guess my question would be is there any way to watch the stream in 4:3? Really difficult watching live because of that (btw, would feel really sad if everybody watches it in 4:3 and I'm the only one getting widescreen)
edit: It's not that bad its just weird, does Sonic broadcast in widescreen? And sorry for offtopic


As stratos said, for the past two weeks we have been doing dual broadcasts of sonic as there are no fpvs. snipealot2 has the normal 4:3 aspect you are looking for.

Oh, that would explain a lot. Thank you <3
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 20 2013 01:25 GMT
#31
I don't know how to make the threads, don't know if I'd want to. However, I can join in more @ the LRT, only thing is I am normally posting a shit-ton in the chat @ live room so seems a bit redundant to repeat myself in the LRT


will give it a shot
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
March 20 2013 15:51 GMT
#32
It also saddens me how few people make LR these days. I think we should aim to fix that as well with this initiative. So whenever you watch some BW event and notice that there is no LR thread, make one!

Especially events like these Sonic showmatches which are so high skilled and yet the information about them is so scarce
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
March 20 2013 16:23 GMT
#33
On March 21 2013 00:51 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It also saddens me how few people make LR these days. I think we should aim to fix that as well with this initiative. So whenever you watch some BW event and notice that there is no LR thread, make one!

Especially events like these Sonic showmatches which are so high skilled and yet the information about them is so scarce

A major thing is updating the results. That's why I made gambit cup LR-ing super easy. Just put the wiki link to results and than anybody can update the wikipage with results. Doing live result updates otherwise can be considered burdensome for the OP.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
March 20 2013 16:37 GMT
#34
On March 21 2013 01:23 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 00:51 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It also saddens me how few people make LR these days. I think we should aim to fix that as well with this initiative. So whenever you watch some BW event and notice that there is no LR thread, make one!

Especially events like these Sonic showmatches which are so high skilled and yet the information about them is so scarce

A major thing is updating the results. That's why I made gambit cup LR-ing super easy. Just put the wiki link to results and than anybody can update the wikipage with results. Doing live result updates otherwise can be considered burdensome for the OP.

That's actually an awesome idea. We should definitely have a Liquipedia page for these SOSPA event matches as well.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#35
On March 21 2013 01:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 01:23 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 21 2013 00:51 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It also saddens me how few people make LR these days. I think we should aim to fix that as well with this initiative. So whenever you watch some BW event and notice that there is no LR thread, make one!

Especially events like these Sonic showmatches which are so high skilled and yet the information about them is so scarce

A major thing is updating the results. That's why I made gambit cup LR-ing super easy. Just put the wiki link to results and than anybody can update the wikipage with results. Doing live result updates otherwise can be considered burdensome for the OP.

That's actually an awesome idea. We should definitely have a Liquipedia page for these SOSPA event matches as well.

I've been thinking about it, but it's hard to put it together. There's a wide variety of event matches with varying prizes and a long list of players that you'll only see there. There's the always ongoing KotH tournament which could get its own page and be somewhat organized, but stuff like team matches or the minitours or showmatches and so on would be hard to document. Doesn't help that there's no documentation of earlier results apart from what can be found in Arvick's thread.

Would be awesome though, absolutely.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 21 2013 03:20 GMT
#36
On March 21 2013 06:17 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 01:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On March 21 2013 01:23 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 21 2013 00:51 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It also saddens me how few people make LR these days. I think we should aim to fix that as well with this initiative. So whenever you watch some BW event and notice that there is no LR thread, make one!

Especially events like these Sonic showmatches which are so high skilled and yet the information about them is so scarce

A major thing is updating the results. That's why I made gambit cup LR-ing super easy. Just put the wiki link to results and than anybody can update the wikipage with results. Doing live result updates otherwise can be considered burdensome for the OP.

That's actually an awesome idea. We should definitely have a Liquipedia page for these SOSPA event matches as well.

I've been thinking about it, but it's hard to put it together. There's a wide variety of event matches with varying prizes and a long list of players that you'll only see there. There's the always ongoing KotH tournament which could get its own page and be somewhat organized, but stuff like team matches or the minitours or showmatches and so on would be hard to document. Doesn't help that there's no documentation of earlier results apart from what can be found in Arvick's thread.

Would be awesome though, absolutely.


anything that is spread out over a few days would get a liquipedia page and those that aren't don't.
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Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
March 21 2013 03:30 GMT
#37
I always liked the LR threads but I'm tending to watch the games after the fact at the moment. Still, if I am watching it live I'll be sure to check in to the LR thread, and they're always fun to come back to later for extra trashtalk anyway

Might I add SSL8 via BisuDagger's and Snipealot's TwitchTV has been stupendous - if you haven't watched + Show Spoiler [Group E] +
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nTrus21
Profile Joined March 2013
Cook Islands7 Posts
March 21 2013 05:51 GMT
#38
there is LR also in broodwar?
who's bad?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#39
On March 21 2013 14:51 nTrus21 wrote:
there is LR also in broodwar?


Yes, there have always been LRs in BW.
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remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
March 21 2013 16:48 GMT
#40
I will keep on posting!!!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 21 2013 22:53 GMT
#41
On March 21 2013 12:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 06:17 KristofferAG wrote:
On March 21 2013 01:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On March 21 2013 01:23 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 21 2013 00:51 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It also saddens me how few people make LR these days. I think we should aim to fix that as well with this initiative. So whenever you watch some BW event and notice that there is no LR thread, make one!

Especially events like these Sonic showmatches which are so high skilled and yet the information about them is so scarce

A major thing is updating the results. That's why I made gambit cup LR-ing super easy. Just put the wiki link to results and than anybody can update the wikipage with results. Doing live result updates otherwise can be considered burdensome for the OP.

That's actually an awesome idea. We should definitely have a Liquipedia page for these SOSPA event matches as well.

I've been thinking about it, but it's hard to put it together. There's a wide variety of event matches with varying prizes and a long list of players that you'll only see there. There's the always ongoing KotH tournament which could get its own page and be somewhat organized, but stuff like team matches or the minitours or showmatches and so on would be hard to document. Doesn't help that there's no documentation of earlier results apart from what can be found in Arvick's thread.

Would be awesome though, absolutely.


anything that is spread out over a few days would get a liquipedia page and those that aren't don't.

So that's all the "supermatches" then. How would they be titled? They're usually not titled by Sonic, it's just "Supermatch" unless it's a special event like it was around Chinese New years.

I could imagine having a single page for the KotH series, and depending on how often it's held, it could be split into sub-pages of 1 month, 3 months, 6 months or a year or something like that to keep it less cluttered. The team games I have no idea how to document though, there's no consistency or anything like that most of the time.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4375 Posts
March 22 2013 10:44 GMT
#42
I just applied to have the last minute thread unlocked so I can edit it and make it easier to use for SSL and TLS.

Anyone can feel free to pm me ideas or content cos I have been out of the loop for a long time
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Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
March 22 2013 11:23 GMT
#43
The SSL LR threads will probably have more people in ro16 since i think it will be offline again which is way more hype
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
March 22 2013 14:08 GMT
#44
SSL Group G got 17 pages already!!!! I'm proud of the effort guys. Thank you!
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 22 2013 14:27 GMT
#45
On March 22 2013 23:08 BisuDagger wrote:
SSL Group G got 17 pages already!!!! I'm proud of the effort guys. Thank you!


Movie v Tyson was amazing and that contributed to the comments on the live report .
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 14:43:51
March 22 2013 14:43 GMT
#46
An amazing PvP? I'll need to watch the VODs.

Edit: Wait wait wait, an amazing PvP from Tyson?!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 22 2013 14:50 GMT
#47
On March 22 2013 23:43 Sayle wrote:
An amazing PvP? I'll need to watch the VODs.

Edit: Wait wait wait, an amazing PvP from Tyson?!

well ok PvP from tyson, amazing PvP from movie.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 23 2013 08:52 GMT
#48
So...... SSL8 Group H is going to start in like 1 hour 9 minute according to the event time listed . Anyone is going to make a live report thread for it ?
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
March 23 2013 09:47 GMT
#49
No LR thread yet? I just got up
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 09:54:13
March 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#50
I have made it, should I just post it or what?
edit: I have never made a thread before and I wont be able to update results ect because I have to go after the first game I can give the thread

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 23 2013 09:51 GMT
#51
On March 23 2013 18:48 Zeo wrote:
I have made it, should I just post it or what?
edit: I have never made a thread before and I wont be able to update I can give the template


I already put up the template in the last minute LR thread page anyway.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
March 23 2013 09:53 GMT
#52
On March 23 2013 18:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 18:48 Zeo wrote:
I have made it, should I just post it or what?
edit: I have never made a thread before and I wont be able to update I can give the template


I already put up the template in the last minute LR thread page anyway.

I meant thread for group H, sorry
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
March 23 2013 10:01 GMT
#53
Can someone make it pleaseee?
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 10:05:08
March 23 2013 10:03 GMT
#54
On March 23 2013 19:01 Epoxide wrote:
Can someone make it pleaseee?

I made it, its in the spoiler of my post above, someone just needs to copy/paste it.
I can't update the thread so I think its better if someone else makes it :/
Should I just post it?
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