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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 14:59:10
March 19 2013 14:27 GMT
#1
Live Report school is now in session!


      The LR initiative! Viewer numbers for Brood War are getting insane. The average gambit cup game gets viewers in the hundreds. The average TLS event can gather over 2,000 viewers! So where is the issue? Chat rooms for the streams are so active it feels like Brood War did 3 years ago when everyone was participating. But we are still missing a MAJOR factor. The Live Report threads are empty.

      Now, I understand that the term Live Report means that the thread should be reporting for the game but the term is not black and white. I cannot type play by play every game. And even if I did the thread is no fun if it’s filled up with 3 pages straight of the same person posting. So while I love my post count sky rocketing, it has become a lonely venture.

IF EVERY VIEWER POSTED ONCE WE COULD FILL AT LEAST 20 PAGES EVERY TOURNAMENT!

Here is what quality LR posts look like! Be a part of something great!


The standard LR convo from [SWL] Playoffs Day 2: SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung Oz


On March 31 2011 14:16 NathanSC wrote:So hyped to see Bisu all-kill.
On March 31 2011 14:22 hellbound wrote:
Why? Given Bisu is T1 vZ specialist and OZ has a Z backbone I'd say it is very unlikely for that to happen.
On March 31 2011 14:28 Simplistik wrote:
Hmm, no. That is precisely the reason why a Bisu all kill is more likely than normal.
On March 31 2011 14:36 hellbound wrote:
What I meant to say that Bisu should be given the "final boss" role. And the final boss only gets AK when he gets RAK, which is statistically unlikely. I doubt T1 will risk sending him early and getting him sniped by something random [lol hiya, oztoss etc.] with JD and miniJD still to be played.



The epic after thoughts of a game just played: [SWL] KT Rolster vs MBC Game Hero - Page 21

On March 09 2011 14:42 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 14:40 shinjin wrote:
that was brutal.
"lol i dont need tanks"

Some people say a zealot vs zealot battle can be won with one goon
Others say muta vs muta can be won with a pair of scourge
Flash says vulture vs vulture can be won with vultures.



The heated discussion after a finals has been played: [OSL] Korean Air OSL Grand Final - Page 307

On May 24 2010 01:21 G5 wrote:
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On May 24 2010 01:14 purpose wrote:
On May 24 2010 01:12 G5 wrote:
Flash is a class above EffOrt

EffOrt won every game with cheese (except Game 4 which was retarded).

When EffOrt was put against the wall and he was feeling nervous he relied on cheese.

When Flash was put into game 5, he manned up and went 14 CC like a fucking BALLER

i unno man.... I honestly think the better man lost today. God this series games 3-5 made me mad as fuck.


To be 0-2 down in a OSL final vs the player who has dominated SC the last year and turn it into 3-2 victory and you say the better player lost.

Flash overall is a better player then Effort, but in this final effort played better and smarter. And to say he cheesed is just sore loser mentality tbh.


he won off mass zerglings game 3 / 5 and a retard build from flash game 4

I could fucking do what EffOrt did in those games and I don't even play that match up.

Now Game 1 and 2... Game 2 especially. Take game 2 and look at what position Flash was in and how he came back from it, spreading the map, dropping every where, multi-tasking the shit out of effort. There is no doubt in my mind the better player lost today and it's because sometimes all-in works and EffOrt decided to bank on that after he was down 0-2 because he was nervous and Flash already proved he would rape him in a skillful game. You can say i have a sore loser mentality but you have a republican close minded mentality who doesn't look at the games, you just looks at the score and thats good enough for you. Maybe you should get some insight into the games before you open your mouth.



Those loyal (ACE) team fans and epic polls!: [SWL] Air Force ACE vs Hite Entus - Page 3


On March 20 2011 13:30 kassi wrote:
omg. Rock? winning? =D

GO ACE!!
On March 20 2011 13:30 maximuspita wrote:
Look at that MURDER FACE!!!
On March 20 2011 13:31 structuralinertia wrote:
GG! ROCK YES

Poll: Recommend Game 1?

Yes lol (52)
 
95%

No (2)
 
4%

Kinda (1)
 
2%

55 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1?

(Vote): Yes lol
(Vote): No
(Vote): Kinda




The quirky comments!: [Masters] STX Masters Cup 2009 Final - Page 22

On August 29 2009 19:58 Camlito wrote:
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On August 29 2009 19:57 GTR wrote:
VOS POST GAME PERFORMANCE?
k-pop invasion lolol


Somehow knew you'd be the first one to comment on the music -_-
On August 29 2009 20:00 konadora wrote:
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On August 29 2009 19:58 Signus wrote:
[image loading]

Tossgirl: "Nice butt"
On August 29 2009 20:05 Sinedd wrote:
STX got Hyuked ... hahahah how hilarious

GJ SKT1 ;]


And finally, the rivalries! [SPL] KT Rolster vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 73

On January 07 2012 13:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On January 07 2012 13:21 Jindo wrote:
On January 07 2012 13:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 07 2012 13:04 Jindo wrote:
Here comes double standard KT fans


what?


On January 07 2012 12:59 mnesthes wrote:
fucking cheeser

On January 07 2012 13:03 Katsuge wrote:
lol skt

On January 07 2012 13:03 Eun_Star wrote:
Bisu...you need to try to improve PvP, not cannon rush. Go play SC2

On January 07 2012 13:03 mnesthes wrote:
Truth: bisu can only win PvP if he cheeses a rookie

On January 07 2012 13:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
On January 07 2012 13:08 konadora wrote:
LOL
BISU: "IT FEELS GOOD WINNING with no skill"


On January 07 2012 13:11 Sawamura wrote:
Woman toss is just too afraid that wooki would have owned him in a straight up fight . Easy win yeah .

KT tears so delicious.

what?




So who is ready to start doing their part and posting in LR threads!?!?!?!?!?!


Why wait, practice now by posting in here! Fill this thread up with comments making it active and appealing to people who may be post shy. What are you waiting for, do iiiitttttttt!!!!!!!!


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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 19 2013 14:32 GMT
#2
So hyped to see Bisu all-kill.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51037 Posts
March 19 2013 14:39 GMT
#3
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 19 2013 14:46 GMT
#4
Because it doesn't have the same appeal anymore.

The fun of the LR for me was bashing the KT fanboys, hyping Bisu and cheering for SKT, but all of that is gone.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
dsaqwe.
Profile Joined February 2011
Croatia274 Posts
March 19 2013 14:54 GMT
#5
GOGO LR Thread !
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19359 Posts
March 19 2013 14:59 GMT
#6
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

I think I squeezed you in there ^^
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
March 19 2013 15:01 GMT
#7
This is a pretty good question. Why did the people stop posting in LR threads even though the numbers are still high?

I think the biggest reason is that streams have their own chat now and people discuss the games there. But still, I think bringing back some of the hype we had in old LR threads would be so awesome. I try to post in LR threads as much as I can, but from now on I'll try even more!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
March 19 2013 15:07 GMT
#8
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19359 Posts
March 19 2013 15:12 GMT
#9
On March 20 2013 00:07 thezanursic wrote:
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.

I see this issue too. The obvious reason to post in LR is that when people can always read through the thread to see reactions and participate in discussion during and AFTER the game is over. Chatting live is great but like you said LR is a transcript with no words because no one talks in there anymore. When I go back to 2011 I can read every page of an LR for 50-100 pages and know what happened feel the vibes and tensions from the past. Now when I see and LR it's just a page for results. Is that really what it has come too?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
March 19 2013 15:30 GMT
#10
On March 20 2013 00:12 BisuDagger wrote:
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On March 20 2013 00:07 thezanursic wrote:
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.

I see this issue too. The obvious reason to post in LR is that when people can always read through the thread to see reactions and participate in discussion during and AFTER the game is over. Chatting live is great but like you said LR is a transcript with no words because no one talks in there anymore. When I go back to 2011 I can read every page of an LR for 50-100 pages and know what happened feel the vibes and tensions from the past. Now when I see and LR it's just a page for results. Is that really what it has come too?

Yeah, but TL can implement something like this without going against Twitch. they implement their own chat next to the stream on the stream page. And that chat is linked to the LR thread.

Get on it RICH!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 19 2013 15:40 GMT
#11
On March 19 2013 23:46 fabiano wrote:
Because it doesn't have the same appeal anymore.

The fun of the LR for me was bashing the KT fanboys, hyping Bisu and cheering for SKT, but all of that is gone.


Yeah I think fabiano has a point here and that is back than we had a professional scene going into live report makes it seem worth while because it's your team playing during the games and you being in the live report is like supporting your team. Well that's how I take it to be and back than I guess it was fun because the other like the person I am quoting will start calling names like Kt Trash Lolster and I will be on the trail shutting them down if I can .

Also back than I believe we had a dedicated live reporter who frequently LR during games (what happen to that carrier guy skt fan guy (Zona ??) ). Your team standings are at stake and as a fan most of us were there to comment about the game no matter how bad we were at live reporting and it also was contributed by the hype and professional scene we use to have .

I can't blame the lack luster of response in the live report this days for SSL some of the games were not interesting and that I mean it was really kind of low compared to the quality we had back than .Although this is to be expected because some of the players who were playing were amateurs and unknown and if the SSL gets to the serious business stage ex broodwar professional going head to head in to mortal kombat and the games are exciting .I will probably be one of the person to be making some comments on the live report.

Nevertheless, Live reporting was fun back than and probably we will can get back the same hype some way or another from the games being more exciting and rivalries to be awaken (If bisu comes back to broodwar and flash retires at the same time to come back to bw) .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 19 2013 16:03 GMT
#12
On March 20 2013 00:07 thezanursic wrote:
The LR threads are just a transcript from the stream chat... Maybe TL should do something about it. if I were able to post in a TL chat that was basically attached to a stream = event and would be transcripted into a thread that would be awesome, but LR reporting is inconvinient since the stream and the thread aren't in the same window.

if they would do something to being able to post on a thread that is linked in the stream that would get us starting atleast
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 19 2013 16:50 GMT
#13
I really miss the LR-threads from the good old days. It used to be so much fun to socialize in 'em; to have pleasant conversations with friends, to laugh at all the funny comedians around here, to argue with trolls and/or retards who've made me pull my hair in despair so many times I think I'm going bald, to troll and be retarded myself (;D), to cheer for players/teams I really cared deeply and passionately about...

After the high point of watching the last OSL-final live, I have simply not had much time over for BW, and that in combination with the end of the real proscene in Korea has resulted in me losing of lot of enthusiasm for the game. I still tune in to big events (mainly TLS), but I literally never play it anymore, and I don't feel compelled to make 150 posts a week to discuss it. I think I spend more time watching CS:GO these days than BW.

Anywho, I agree that the Twitch chat has sort of replaced the function of the LR-threads. But it does indeed lack the perpetual qualities and the soul that the LR-threads of old had.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
March 19 2013 17:21 GMT
#14
I miss the good old lr threads that weren't just pages upon pages of me talkin to myself. I think the record is 3 and a half pages? If we brought them back; I could finally hit 10k :D
Oh and brood war for life <3
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
March 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#15
People just aren't creating as much hype as they used to, because their favorite players are playing SC2. But don't worry, the foreign Scene Hype will come soon....
+ Show Spoiler +
Michael Hwaiting
Flash should fear Sacsri
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 19 2013 17:25 GMT
#16
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

It never really was fun doing the LR threads for SRT for that reason D:
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19359 Posts
March 19 2013 17:29 GMT
#17
On March 20 2013 02:25 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
for a guy who made his bones in LR threads, not a single quote is taken from me...

but seriously, I see at least 200 people and even if we exclude the chinese people we would still have about 100 people watching the SSL during the casts, yet nobody posts in LR threads and nobody votes in the polls for recommended games.

It never really was fun doing the LR threads for SRT for that reason D:

I can't help the SRT/SSL stuff because I restream it later in the day Also people can't comment in the thread when they watch it with me because the results will be ruined for them. This is something I haven't found a solution for yet.
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 17:47:10
March 19 2013 17:46 GMT
#18
Skzlime fighting~!

Also, holy balls trutaCz started streaming O_O
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6978 Posts
March 19 2013 18:05 GMT
#19
problem is ..there is not bisu to post about
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 19 2013 18:17 GMT
#20
Without Rock there's just no reason to post anymore. It's like there's a void inside of me...
BW forever || Thall
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