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There's a Korean Amateur TLPD now, so I've abandoned my rankings.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sospa
Thanks to everyone who made that happen!
+ Show Spoiler [Older OP] +I used to use the TLPD's Elo ratings a whole bunch when watching BW events as I could never keep all the lesser-known players straight in my head. Unfortunately, the BW TLPD isn't updated with SOSPA games, which makes it very difficult for me to watch the SSL. When I head of the rebirth of the 8th SSL I went ahead and calculated Elo ratings for the SOSPA players. Note that I guessed at the Elo formula to use, so while these numbers might look similar to the numbers shown in the TLPD they aren't actually related at all. The listing is available online at http://198.23.243.233/~jjwhg/bwelo/It currently contains the following tournaments: * 8th SSL (through Ro32 Group D) * 8th SSL Ranking Matches * Sonic's New Year Special Match * 12th SRT * 11th SRT * 10th SRT * 9th SRT (incomplete) * 8th SRT (incomplete) * 7th SRT (incomplete) * 7th SSL * 6th SSL * Onse Telecom 2 Number Plus BJSL I'm sure you'll quickly notice that I know nothing about web programming, so the page is significantly less featured than the BW TLPD. I've put the source code I use to generate the website on Git Hub. https://github.com/jjwhg/bweloI'll try and keep the listing up to date. If anyone wants to help out, I'll accept patches via email for both the game database and the code used to generate the page. Some technical notes on the Elo system I use: There are two important constants that determine exactly what an Elo number means: the starting rating and the rating constant (called K). My rating system uses a starting rating of 2000 (which seems similar what TLPD uses) and uses a tiered constant (similar to that described by the Wikipedia page, as used for chess). I use a constant of 30 until a player has played 30 games, then 15 until the player has played 100 games, and then 10 after that. This means that a new player's Elo will change three times as fast as a player who was played many games. Additionally, I made the decision to only calculate an Elo peak after the player has played 10 games -- this prevents many, many players from having an Elo peak equal to the starting Elo -- this would happen to any player who has only lost games. + Show Spoiler [Original OP] +I used to use the TLPD's Elo ratings a whole bunch when watching BW events as I could never keep all the lesser-known players straight in my head. Unfortunately, the BW TLPD isn't updated with SOSPA games, which makes it very difficult for me to watch the SSL. When I head of the rebirth of the 8th SSL I went ahead and calculated Elo ratings for the SOSPA players taking into account their performance in the SSL 6, SSL 7, and BRT 11 (which was all I could find on Liquipedia). Note that I guessed at the Elo formula to use, so while these numbers might look similar to the numbers shown in the TLPD they aren't actually related at all. The listing is available online at http://pastehtml.com/view/cn03jsqxl.htmlI'm sure you'll quickly notice that I know nothing about web programming, so the page is significantly less featured than the BW TLPD. I've put the source code I use to generate the website on Git Hub. https://github.com/jjwhg/bweloI'll try and keep the listing up to date. If anyone wants to help out, I'll accept patches via email for both the game database and the code used to generate the page. I'll try and add some more features (I'd like to at least be able to pull up a match history for each player) but I don't have a whole bunch of spare time left in my winter break. Hopefully someone finds this useful!
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Thanks for doing this
unfortunately, those ELO ratings are a depressing reminder that the world will probably never see BW played at the level that the pros were playing at before the scene disintegrated 
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nice work!
However I think using text files for storing game results is not a scalable approach. It's better to use database.
And of course, we need to populate TLPD or similar database with SSL leagues (and all other tournaments).
+ Show Spoiler +looks like you are not fond of object-oriented programming as me 
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This is pretty cool and useful, thx for the effort!
I'd also just like to note that we're working on updating BW TLPD, though in snails pace
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On December 28 2012 04:25 Crunchums wrote:Thanks for doing this unfortunately, those ELO ratings are a depressing reminder that the world will probably never see BW played at the level that the pros were playing at before the scene disintegrated
I think the reason the ELO is so low is because everyone got reset to 2000.
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On December 28 2012 04:49 NotRandoMNamE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2012 04:25 Crunchums wrote:Thanks for doing this unfortunately, those ELO ratings are a depressing reminder that the world will probably never see BW played at the level that the pros were playing at before the scene disintegrated I think the reason the ELO is so low is because everyone got reset to 2000.
Yep. I didn't import any of the TLPD Elo history in because I figured it wouldn't really mean anything (most of the SSL ex-pros only had a few games anyway). I decided to start the Elo at 2000 because that's about what TLPD does, but I'd like to stress that these numbers can't be compared to the TLPD Elo numbers at all: creating an Elo rating involves selecting some constants and I'm sure mine are completely different than what TLPD uses.
On December 28 2012 04:29 2Pacalypse- wrote:This is pretty cool and useful, thx for the effort! I'd also just like to note that we're working on updating BW TLPD, though in snails pace
Wonderful! If they all make it in then I'll probably just abandon this project . Good luck!
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On December 28 2012 05:35 KristofferAG wrote:I just created an LP page for the 10th SOSPA Ranking Tournament, if you want to add that.  10th SOSPA Ranking Tournament.
Awesome, it's been incorporated into my ratings. Thanks for the update!
I've also got this up at a proper web host: I have a super-cheap VPS that I host stuff on, it goes down a whole lot (it was down all yesterday, which is why I used that paste service) so be warned!
http://81.17.19.229/~jjwhg/bwelo/players.html
and I've added pages for each player that contain a list of their matches.
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I've been compiling past SSL and SRT results, but it's frustrating because it's very very very very incomplete, can't find results for a lot of things
If people are willing, we could start compiling what we have.
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On December 28 2012 07:09 ArvickHero wrote:
I've been compiling past SSL and SRT results, but it's frustrating because it's very very very very incomplete, can't find results for a lot of things
If people are willing, we could start compiling what we have.
Sounds wonderful! Mine are all up online, but the file format isn't so great. Also, I'm afraid I don't have much to offer -- I just got all my results from Liquipedia. You can see the list here
https://github.com/jjwhg/bwelo/tree/master/data/leagues
just click on any one to get a nice plain-text version of the game lists.
Maybe the best thing to do is just put all of them up on Liquipedia? That seems to be the standard for tournament results.
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Norway25712 Posts
I'll gladly offer my services if any help is needed on LP. I can't see myself having any more SRT or SSL info than what Arvick has, what I have is what I found by searching through TL.
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Really nice work ! Yeasterday I was looking for this SOSPA ELO rankings
If you are very confident in "keeping the listing up to date", it could be nice to set your database public. In this way, all will be able to use the data !!
C is not the best Web programming language. I encourage you to complete/build the database in C (as now). And then, connect to this base and compile dynamically the web-pages with an appropriate framework (PHP/J2EE....). I can eventually help you. But it's very hard to work from text file :p
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I'm gonna be using this thread to store my translations of past leagues, and whoever's available can add this stuff to Liquipedia.
There are some results/details missing, namely Group C and Group D. If anyone could find those for me, it'd be greatly appreciated, but these are all I could find from digging around Sonic's BBS.
9th SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: 700k Won Players Sexy (이영웅), Icarus (이카루스) Mong (몽군) Ample (사신테란) Hiya (구성훈) Koala (임성진) Shinee (샤이니)  Perfectman (김태균) Pusan (박지호) He)Jy (정태훈)  Soma (박상현) Killer (박준오) Larva (임홍규) Beast (유진우) Cola (노재상) Force[Name] (포스네임) Map ListNeo Jade New Sniper Ridge Fighting Spirit Neo Ground Zero Neo Electric Circuit Schedule8/14 Ro16 Group A 8/15 Ro16 Group B 8/16 Ro16 Group C 8/17 Ro16 Group D 8/19 Ro8 Day 1 8/20 Ro8 Day 2 8/22 Ro4 8/25 Finals Group A+ Show Spoiler +Match One: Killer VS Hiya Killer < Neo Jade > HiyaKiller < New Sniper Ridge > Hiya Killer < Fighting Spirit > HiyaHiya 2:1Match Two:  He)Jy VS Ample He)Jy < Neo Jade > Ample He)Jy < New Sniper Ridge > Ample He)Jy < Fighting Spirit > AmpleHe)Jy 2:0Winners Match: Hiya VS He)Jy Hiya < Neo Jade > He)Jy Hiya < New Sniper Ridge > He)Jy Hiya < Fighting Spirit > He)JyHiya 2:0Losers Match: Killer VS Ample Killer < Neo Jade > Ample Killer < New Sniper Ridge > AmpleKiller < Fighting Spirit > Ample Killer 2:1Final Match: Killer VS He)Jy Killer < Neo Jade > He)Jy Killer < New Sniper Ridge > He)Jy Killer < Fighting Spirit > He)JyKiller 2:1 Mong advanced first, Icarus second (derived from the order of the names listing the winners for the group D announcement. Detailed results unknown Match One: Mong VS Soma Mong < Neo Jade > Soma Mong < New Sniper Ridge > Soma Mong < Fighting Spirit > Soma Mong 2:xMatch Two: Beast VS Icarus Beast < Neo Jade > Icarus Beast < New Sniper Ridge > Icarus Beast < Fighting Spirit > Icarus ??? 2:xWinners Match: Mong VS ??? Mong < Neo Jade > ??? Mong < New Sniper Ridge > ??? Mong < Fighting Spirit > ??? Mong 2:x
Losers Match: Soma VS ??? Soma < Neo Jade > ??? Soma < New Sniper Ridge > ??? Soma < Fighting Spirit > ??? ??? 2:x
Final Match: ??? VS Icarus ??? < Neo Jade > Icarus ??? < New Sniper Ridge > Icarus ??? < Fighting Spirit > Icarus Icarus 2:xMatch One: Shinee VS Larva Shinee < Neo Jade > Larva Shinee < New Sniper Ridge > Larva Shinee < Fighting Spirit > Larva detailed results unknownShinee 2:1Match Two: Koala VS Pusan Koala < Neo Jade > Pusan Koala < New Sniper Ridge > Pusan Koala < Fighting Spirit > Pusan Koala 2:0Winners Match: Shinee VS Koala Shinee < Neo Jade > Koala Shinee < New Sniper Ridge > Koala Shinee < Fighting Spirit > KoalaShinee 2:0
Losers Match: Larva VS Pusan Larva < Neo Jade > Pusan Larva < New Sniper Ridge > Pusan Larva < Fighting Spirit > Pusan detailed results unknownLarva 2:1
Final Match: Koala VS Larva Koala < Neo Jade > Larva Koala < New Sniper Ridge > Larva Koala < Fighting Spirit > Larvadetailed results unknown Larva 2:1 Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=53044088&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=13&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group A (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53057596&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group B (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53066202&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N
-Ro16 Group C Details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=53068100&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=13&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group D (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53085847&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 D1 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53102443&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 D2 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53110083&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro4 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53123350&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=53140713&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
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This one is pretty bad. Lack of detailed results for Group A, and practically no results at all for Group C and D, along with the entire Ro8. If anyone can find those missing results, it'd be greatly appreciated
8th SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: 500k Won PlayersSexy (이영웅) Icarus (이카루스) Mong (몽군) Hiya (구성훈) Ample (사신테란) AsiaSin[ScM] (최아신) Anytime (오영종) Perfectman (김태균) Sky (하늘) Force[Name] (포스네임) Mahell (마헬) Larva (임홍규) Cola (노재상) Beast (유진우) MinHo (이민호) ggaemo (김경모) Map ListFighting Spirit New Bloody Ridge Jade Circuit Breaker New Sniper Ridge Schedule7/20 Ro16 Group A 7/21 Ro16 Group B 7/22 Ro16 Group C 7/23 Ro16 Group D 7/25 Ro8 Day 1 7/26 Ro8 Day 2 7/27 Ro4 7/29 Finals Group A+ Show Spoiler +Group B+ Show Spoiler +Group C+ Show Spoiler [detailed results unknown] +Sky and Beast advanced, placing unknown Match One: Sky VS Cola Sky < Neo Jade > Cola Sky < New Sniper Ridge > Cola Sky < Fighting Spirit > Cola xxx 2:xMatch Two: Hiya VS Beast Hiya < Neo Jade > Beast Hiya < New Sniper Ridge > Beast Hiya < Fighting Spirit > Beast xxx 2:xWinners Match: xxx VS xxx xxx < Neo Jade > xxx xxx < New Sniper Ridge > xxx xxx < Fighting Spirit > xxx xxx 2:x
Losers Match: xxx VS xxx xxx < Neo Jade > xxx xxx < New Sniper Ridge > xxx xxx < Fighting Spirit > xxx xxx 2:x
Final Match: xxx VS xxx xxx] < Neo Jade > xxx xxx < New Sniper Ridge > xxx xxx < Fighting Spirit > xxx xxx 2:xMinHo and Ample advanced, placing unknown Match One: Ample VS ggaemo Ample < Neo Jade > ggaemo Ample < New Sniper Ridge > ggaemo Ample < Fighting Spirit > ggaemo xxx 2:xMatch Two: AsiaSin[ScM] VS MinHo AsiaSin[ScM] < Neo Jade > MinHo AsiaSin[ScM] < New Sniper Ridge > MinHo AsiaSin[ScM] < Fighting Spirit > MinHo xxx 2:xWinners Match: xxx VS xxx xxx < Neo Jade > xxx xxx < New Sniper Ridge > xxx xxx < Fighting Spirit > xxx xxx 2:x
Losers Match: xxx VS xxx xxx < Neo Jade > xxx xxx < New Sniper Ridge > xxx xxx < Fighting Spirit > xxx xxx 2:x
Final Match: xxx VS xxx xxx] < Neo Jade > xxx xxx < New Sniper Ridge > xxx xxx < Fighting Spirit > xxx xxx 2:x Detailed Results UnknownSexy VS Mong + Show Spoiler + Sexy < Fighting Spirit > Mong Sexy < New Bloody Ridge > Mong Sexy < Jade > Mong Sexy < Circuit Breaker > Mong Sexy < New Sniper Ridge > Mong Mong 3:x Sky VS MinHo + Show Spoiler + Sky < Fighting Spirit > MinHo Sky < New Bloody Ridge > MinHo Sky < Jade > MinHo Sky < Circuit Breaker > MinHo Sky < New Sniper Ridge > MinHo Sky 3:x Force[Name] VS Ample + Show Spoiler + Force[Name] < Fighting Spirit > Ample Force[Name] < New Bloody Ridge > Ample Force[Name] < Jade > Ample Force[Name] < Circuit Breaker > Ample Force[Name] < New Sniper Ridge > Ample Ample 3:x Mahell VS Beast + Show Spoiler + Mahell < Fighting Spirit > Beast Mahell < New Bloody Ridge > Beast Mahell < Jade > Beast Mahell < Circuit Breaker > Beast Mahell < New Sniper Ridge > Beast Beast 3:x Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52789193&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=16&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group A kinda results (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52805301&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=5&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group B (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52816207&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group C Details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52814010&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=16&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group D kinda results (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52833574&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=5&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52833416&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=15&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 no source for detailed results lol
-Ro4 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52882370&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52893801&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
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thx for the effort
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Missing detailed score/results from groups A and B. Couldn't find any results for Group D and the Ro4 at all. If anyone can find these missing results/details, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Also, would like to note that Progamer = MinHo. I'll look through the SSL6 Liquipedia page to iron out inconsistencies w/ names later
edit: found almost all the detailed results of Group A and D, just missing the exact score order of the first set. Many, many thanks to kjwcj
7th SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: 500k Won PlayersSexy (이영웅) Ample (사신테란) Koala (임성진) Mong (몽군) Hiya (구성훈) Icarus (이카루스) LYH (이기호) Sky (하늘) Pusan (박지호) Backho (손찬웅) Anytime (오영종) JiMin (김새한솔) Beast (유진우) Cola (노재상) Larva (임홍규) Force[Name] (포스네임) Map ListFighting Spirit Jade Circuit Breaker Sniper Ridge Schedule6/26 Ro16 Group A 6/27 Ro16 Group B 6/28 Ro16 Group C 6/29 Ro16 Group D 7/1 Ro8 Day 1 7/2 Ro8 Day 2 7/6 Ro4 7/7 Finals Group A+ Show Spoiler +Group B+ Show Spoiler +Match One: Sky VS Koala Sky < Fighting Spirit > Koala Sky < Jade > Koala Sky < Circuit Breaker > Koaladetailed results unknownKoala 2:1Match Two: Cola VS Ample Cola < Fighting Spirit > Ample Cola < Jade > Ample Cola < Circuit Breaker > AmpleCola 2:0Winners Match: Cola VS Koala Cola < Fighting Spirit > Koala Cola < Jade > Koala Cola < Circuit Breaker > Koala detailed results unknownCola 2:1
Losers Match: Ample VS Sky Ample < Neo Jade > Sky Ample < New Sniper Ridge > Sky Ample < Fighting Spirit > SkyAmple 2:0Final Match: Ample VS Koala Ample < Fighting Spirit > Koala Ample < Jade > Koala Ample < Circuit Breaker > Koala detailed results unknownAmple 2:1 Match One: Hiya VS Backho Hiya < Fighting Spirit > Backho Hiya < Jade > Backho Hiya < Circuit Breaker > Backho detailed results unknownHiya 2:1Match Two: Anytime VS Icarus Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Icarus Anytime < Jade > Icarus Anytime < Circuit Breaker > IcarusAnytime 2:0Winners Match: Hiya VS Anytime Hiya < Fighting Spirit > Anytime Hiya < Jade > Anytime Hiya < Circuit Breaker > AnytimeHiya 2:0
Losers Match: Backho VS Icarus Backho < Fighting Spirit > Icarus Backho < Jade > Icarus Backho < Circuit Breaker > IcarusBackho 2:0
Final Match: xxx VS Backho Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Backho Anytime < Jade > BackhoAnytime < Circuit Breaker > Backho Anytime 2:1 detailed results unknownMong VS Ample + Show Spoiler + Mong < Fighting Spirit > Ample Mong < Jade > Ample Mong < Circuit Breaker > Ample Mong < Sniper Ridge > Ample Mong < Fighting Spirit >AmpleMong 3:1 (derived from the fact that Mong's overall record was 13-2) Cola VS Sexy + Show Spoiler +Cola < Fighting Spirit > Sexy Cola < Jade > Sexy Cola < Circuit Breaker > Sexy Cola < Sniper Ridge > Sexy Cola < Fighting Spirit > Sexy Sexy 3:x Sources + Show Spoiler +-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52627289&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=18&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group A (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52638214&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group B (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52643307&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group C (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52649265&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group D Details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52647396&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=17&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro8 D1 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52675474&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=5&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro8 D2 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52679617&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro4 Details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52677320&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=17&szOnlyNotice=N) -Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52720578&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -VODs (http://www.twitch.tv/kjwcj/b/322755929, http://www.twitch.tv/kjwcj/b/323087022)
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Really cool! Just make sure it's up to date and don't abandon it, please!
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This is awesome thanks for doing this
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On December 31 2012 20:29 ArvickHero wrote:
Also, would like to note that Progamer = MinHo. I'll look through the SSL6 Liquipedia page to iron out inconsistencies w/ names later
Should I list him as progamer or minho? Also, thanks for all the updates. I've incorporated all of them into my rating list (note that you might need to manually refresh the page, it caches on my Firefox for some reason).
On January 01 2013 04:59 thezanursic wrote:
Really cool! Just make sure it's up to date and don't abandon it, please!
I've got the thread subscribed, so as long as people make new posts for new information I should be able to stay on top of things.
Also, the code and database are both open source -- you're welcome to submit patches (or even just put up your own build!) if I start to get behind.
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Wow nice, pretty cool you used C for this.
Have you thought about using a Makefile instead of a build script?
Perhaps it would be easier to use a simple data exchange standard such as json. I bet there are existing C libs for this.
This way you can let the web page take care of parsing and loading the data. Or perhaps export it to xml, and use xslt to directly transform the data to html.
Anyway, keep up the good work!
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Absolutely no problems with this one, which is a first lol
On January 01 2013 08:40 jjwhg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:29 ArvickHero wrote:
Also, would like to note that Progamer = MinHo. I'll look through the SSL6 Liquipedia page to iron out inconsistencies w/ names later
Should I list him as progamer or minho? Also, thanks for all the updates. I've incorporated all of them into my rating list (note that you might need to manually refresh the page, it caches on my Firefox for some reason).
call him MinHo
6th SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: 500k Won PlayersMong (몽군) Icarus (이카루스) Sexy (이영웅) Hiya (구성훈) Always (김준엽, also goes by 파스타) Pusan (박지호) Sky (하늘) Anytime (오영종) Sea.Kh (손경훈) Minus)Eagle (진웅) Cola (노재상) Larva (임홍규) Beast (유진우) MinHo (이민호) Force[Name] (포스네임) N.s)Z(MaeJang (암매장) (lets just call him MaeJang) Map ListFighting Spirit Circuit Breaker Jade New Bloody Ridge Neo Electric Circuit Schedule6/8 Ro16 Group A 6/9 Ro16 Group B 6/10 Ro16 Group C 6/11 Ro16 Group D 6/13 Ro8 Day 1 6/14 Ro8 Day 2 6/15 Ro4 6/17 Finals Anytime VS Beast + Show Spoiler +Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Beast Anytime < Circuit Breaker > BeastAnytime < Jade > BeastAnytime < New Bloody Ridge > Beast Anytime < Neo Electric Circuit > Beast Anytime 3:2 Mong VS Cola + Show Spoiler + Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52529740&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=20&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group A (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52537336&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group B (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52542512&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group C (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52552228&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=6&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group D (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52556851&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=6&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 Day 1 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52566720&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 D2 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52571130&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=6&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro4 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52580488&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=6&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52589832&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=6&szOnlyNotice=N)
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Different format for 5th SOSPA ranking tournament, as it will be for the rest of the chronologically earlier ones. I couldn't really find anything about prize money, and there's a lack of detailed results for the semis and finals. No indication of what the fourth or fifth set map would be, and who the champion was is .. unclear lol. Again, if anyone can figure this out, it'd be greatly appreciated.
5th SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: ??? PlayersHiya (구성훈) Shinee (샤이니) Sky (하늘) Backho (손찬웅) Minus)Eagle (진웅) Beast (유진우) Larva (임홍규) Cola (노재상) Map ListFighting Spirit Neo Electric Circuit Sniper Ridge Schedule5/26 Ro8 5/27 Ro4 and Finals Backho vs Beast + Show Spoiler + Backho < Fighting Spirit > Beast Backho < Neo Electric Circuit > Beast Backho < Sniper Ridge > Beast Backho < ??? > Beast Backho < ??? > Beast Detailed results unknownBeast 3:1 (note: it says Backho 3:1 Beast, but Beast was declared champion? I'm just going to assume Beast won) Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52470384&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=4&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52472707&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro4 and Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52479556&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=2&szOnlyNotice=N)
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oh man, I was thinking about doing this, but looks like I got pre-empted lol
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Here are the rest of the SOSPA Ranking Tournaments. Prize pool is unknown for all of these, if there was any. There is a lot of info missing for all of them, and for the first SOSPA Ranking Tournament, I was only able to find the entry list and details but no results at all.
edit: 4th SRT is 100% complete except for prize pool, thanks to kjwcj
4th SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Sources + Show Spoiler +-details & Ro8 details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52362304&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=243&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro4 and Finals Details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52364950&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=242&szOnlyNotice=N) -Finals winner (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52373566&nRowNum=30&szSkin=&nPageNo=140&szOnlyNotice=N) -Scores/Results by kjwcj because he's awesome (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:Kjwcj/SonicTV_Ranking_League_4) -VODS (http://www.twitch.tv/majaeyoon/b/316986265, http://www.twitch.tv/majaeyoon/b/316996838. http://www.twitch.tv/majaeyoon/b/317089193, http://www.twitch.tv/majaeyoon/b/317097983)
3rd SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: ??? PlayersMong (몽군) Hiya (구성훈) Sky (하늘) Sea.Kh (손경훈) Minus)Eagle (진웅) Terror (철구) Zergman (박성준) Beast (유진우) Map ListFighting Spirit Circuit Breaker New Bloody Ridge Schedule4/24 Ro8 4/25 Ro4 and Finals Sky VS Zergman + Show Spoiler + Sky < Fighting Spirit > Zergman Sky < Circuit Breaker > Zergman Sky < New Bloody Ridge > Zergman Detailed results unknownSky 2:1 Mong VS Beast + Show Spoiler + Mong < Fighting Spirit > Beast Mong < Circuit Breaker > Beast Mong < New Bloody Ridge > BeastDetailed results unknownBeast 2:1 Sea.Kh VS Hiya + Show Spoiler +Sea.Kh < Fighting Spirit > Hiya Sea.Kh < Circuit Breaker > Hiya Sea.Kh < New Bloody Ridge > Hiya Detailed results unknownSea.Kh 2:1Eagle VS Terror + Show Spoiler +Eagle VS Beast + Show Spoiler +Eagle < Fighting Spirit > Beast Eagle < Circuit Breaker > Beast Eagle < New Bloody Ridge > Beast Detailed results unknownEagle 2:1Sky VS Sea.Kh + Show Spoiler + Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52318661&nRowNum=30&szSkin=&nPageNo=144&szOnlyNotice=N)
-all results (http://live.afreeca.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52332049&szType=read_bbs)
2nd SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: ??? PlayersIcarus (이카루스) Sexy (이영웅) Anytime (오영중) Sea.Kh (손경훈) Sky (하늘) Zergman (박성준) MinHo (이민호) Beast (유진우) Map ListFighting Spirit Neo Electric Circuit New Bloody Ridge Schedule4/13 Ro8 and Ro4 4/14 Finals Anytime VS Zergman + Show Spoiler +Sea.Kh VS Sexy + Show Spoiler + Sea.Kh < Fighting Spirit > Sexy Sea.Kh < Neo Electric Circuit > Sexy Sea.Kh < New Bloody Ridge > SexyDetailed results unknownSexy 2:1 MinHo VS Icarus + Show Spoiler +MinHo < Fighting Spirit > Icarus MinHo < Neo Electric Circuit > Icarus MinHo < New Bloody Ridge > IcarusDetailed results unknownIcarus 2:1Sky VS Beast + Show Spoiler + Sky < Fighting Spirit > Beast Sky < Neo Electric Circuit > Beast Sky < New Bloody Ridge > Beast Detailed results unknownSky 2:1 Sky VS Sexy + Show Spoiler +Sky < Fighting Spirit > Sexy Sky < Neo Electric Circuit > Sexy Sky < New Bloody Ridge > Sexy Detailed results unknownSky 2:1Anytime VS Icarus + Show Spoiler +Sky vs Icarus + Show Spoiler + Sky < Fighting Spirit > Icarus Sky < Neo Electric Circuit > Icarus Sky < New Bloody Ridge > Icarus Sky < ??? > Icarus Sky < ??? > Icarus Sky 3:2 Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52262112&nRowNum=30&szSkin=&nPageNo=147&szOnlyNotice=N)
-all results (http://live.afreeca.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=7076239&nTitleNo=52271750&szType=read_bbs)
1st SOSPA Ranking Tournament+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +Prize Pool1st Place: ??? PlayersIcarus (이카루스) Sexy (이영웅) Anytime (오영중) Pusan (박지호) Sky (하늘) Zergman (박성준) MinHo (이민호) Beast (유진우) Map ListFighting Spirit Bloody Ridge Neo Electric Circuit Schedule4/03 Ro8 and Ro4 and Finals??? Results unknownIcarus VS Beast + Show Spoiler + Icarus < Fighting Spirit > Beast Icarus < Bloody Ridge > Beast Icarus < Neo Electric Circuit > Beast ??? 2:x Sky VS Sexy + Show Spoiler + Sky < Fighting Spirit > Sexy Sky < Bloody Ridge > Sexy Sky < Neo Electric Circuit > Sexy ??? 2:x Anytime VS Zergman + Show Spoiler +Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Zergman Anytime < Bloody Ridge > Zergman Anytime < Neo Electric Circuit > Zergman ??? 2:xPusan VS MinHo + Show Spoiler + Pusan < Fighting Spirit > MinHo Pusan < Bloody Ridge > MinHo Pusan < Neo Electric Circuit > MinHo ??? 2:x Results Unknown??? VS ??? + Show Spoiler +
??? < Fighting Spirit > ???
??? < Bloody Ridge > ???
??? < Neo Electric Circuit > ???
??? 2:x
??? VS ??? + Show Spoiler +
??? < Fighting Spirit > ???
??? < Bloody Ridge > ???
??? < Neo Electric Circuit > ???
??? 2:x
results unknown??? vs ??? + Show Spoiler +
??? < Fighting Spirit > ???
??? < Bloody Ridge > ???
??? < Neo Electric Circuit > ???
??? < ??? > ???
??? < ??? > ???
??? x:x Sources + Show Spoiler +
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Missing some detailed results for the Ro16, and I have no details on the Bronze match other than who won. Otherwise, fairly complete .. if there's any past SonicTV league I'd want to watch, it'd be this one lol.
edit: exact results of Groups A and D were found thanks to kjwcj
Onse Telecom 2 Number Plus SonicTV BJStarleague+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +noteThis is a "special event" SSL, sponsered by Onse Telecom to promote their new app or w/e (which was 2 Number Plus I think). It's kinda like SSL 6.5 .. Prize Pool1st Place: 1.5 Million Won 2nd Place: 700k Won 3rd Place: 300k Won PlayersShinee (샤이니) Hiya (구성훈) Mong (몽군) Icarus (이카루스) Sexy (이영웅) Anytime (오영종) Sky (하늘) Pusan (박지호) Sea.Kh (손경훈) LYH (이기호) Backho (손찬웅) Starcue (지영훈) Mahell (마헬) Zergman (박성준) Beast (유진우) MinHo (이민호) Map ListFighting Spirit Circuit Breaker Jade Neo Ground Zero Neo Electric Circuit Sniper Ridge Neo Chain Reaction Schedule4/16 Ro16 Group A 4/17 Ro16 Group B 4/18 Ro16 Group C 4/19 Ro16 Group D 4/21 Ro8 Day 1 4/22 Ro8 Day 2 4/26 Ro4 Day 1 4/27 Ro4 Day 2 4/28 Finals Group A+ Show Spoiler +Group B+ Show Spoiler +Match One: Backho VS Hiya Backho < Fighting Spirit > Hiya Backho < Circuit Breaker > Hiya Backho < Jade > Hiya Detailed results unknownBackho 2:1Match Two: Anytime VS Mahell
Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Mahell Anytime < Circuit Breaker > Mahell Anytime < Jade > MahellAnytime 2:0Winners Match: Backho VS Anytime Backho < Fighting Spirit > Anytime Backho < Circuit Breaker > Anytime Backho < Jade > AnytimeBackho 2:0
Losers Match: Hiya VS Mahell Hiya < Fighting Spirit > Mahell Hiya < Circuit Breaker > Mahell Hiya < Jade > MahellHiya 2:0Final Match: Anytime VS Hiya Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Hiya Anytime < Circuit Breaker > Hiya Anytime < Jade > Hiya Detailed results unknownAnytime 2:1 Mong VS Minho + Show Spoiler +Mong < Fighting Spirit > Minho Mong < Jade > MinhoMong < Neo Electric Circuit > MinhoMong < Neo Ground Zero > Minho Mong < Circuit Breaker > Minho Mong 3:2 Sky VS Icarus + Show Spoiler + Sources + Show Spoiler +-details(http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52251771&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -scheduling (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52272327&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group A (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52283478&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group B (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52290880&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group C (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52292097&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro16 Group D (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52296136&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro8 info (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52296305&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro8 D1 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52308268&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro8 D2 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52312348&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Ro4 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52333188&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52348851&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N) -VODS (http://www.twitch.tv/majaeyoon/b/315173098, http://www.twitch.tv/majaeyoon/b/315469110)
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On January 02 2013 10:17 ArvickHero wrote:Missing some detailed results for the Ro16, and I have no details on the Bronze match other than who won. Otherwise, fairly complete .. if there's any past SonicTV league I'd want to watch, it'd be this one lol. Onse Telecom 2 Number Plus SonicTV BJStarleague+ Show Spoiler +Details+ Show Spoiler +noteThis is a "special event" SSL, sponsered by Onse Telecom to promote their new app or w/e (which was 2 Number Plus I think). It's kinda like SSL 6.5 .. Prize Pool1st Place: 1.5 Million Won 2nd Place: 700k Won 3rd Place: 300k Won PlayersShinee (샤이니) Hiya (구성훈) Mong (몽군) Icarus (이카루스) Sexy (이영웅) Anytime (오영종) Sky (하늘) Pusan (박지호) Sea.Kh (손경훈) LYH (이기호) Backho (손찬웅) Starcue (지영훈) Mahell (마헬) Zergman (박성준) Beast (유진우) MinHo (이민호) Map ListFighting Spirit Circuit Breaker Jade Neo Ground Zero Neo Electric Circuit Sniper Ridge Neo Chain Reaction Schedule4/16 Ro16 Group A 4/17 Ro16 Group B 4/18 Ro16 Group C 4/19 Ro16 Group D 4/21 Ro8 Day 1 4/22 Ro8 Day 2 4/26 Ro4 Day 1 4/27 Ro4 Day 2 4/28 Finals Group A+ Show Spoiler +Group B+ Show Spoiler +Match One: Backho VS Hiya Backho < Fighting Spirit > Hiya Backho < Circuit Breaker > Hiya Backho < Jade > Hiya Detailed results unknownBackho 2:1Match Two: Anytime VS Mahell
Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Mahell Anytime < Circuit Breaker > Mahell Anytime < Jade > MahellAnytime 2:0Winners Match: Backho VS Anytime Backho < Fighting Spirit > Anytime Backho < Circuit Breaker > Anytime Backho < Jade > AnytimeBackho 2:0
Losers Match: Hiya VS Mahell Hiya < Fighting Spirit > Mahell Hiya < Circuit Breaker > Mahell Hiya < Jade > MahellHiya 2:0Final Match: Anytime VS Hiya Anytime < Fighting Spirit > Hiya Anytime < Circuit Breaker > Hiya Anytime < Jade > Hiya Detailed results unknownAnytime 2:1 Mong VS Minho + Show Spoiler +Mong < Fighting Spirit > Minho Mong < Jade > MinhoMong < Neo Electric Circuit > MinhoMong < Neo Ground Zero > Minho Mong < Circuit Breaker > Minho Mong 3:2 Sky VS Icarus + Show Spoiler + Sources + Show Spoiler +
-details(http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52251771&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-scheduling (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52272327&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group A (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52283478&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group B (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52290880&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group C (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52292097&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro16 Group D (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52296136&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 info (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52296305&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 D1 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52308268&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro8 D2 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52312348&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Ro4 (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52333188&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
-Finals (http://live.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=52348851&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1&szOnlyNotice=N)
Thanks a ton for all this work! I've updated my list with this tournament.
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Is there any chance Sonic might have an idea about the results of the earlier SRTs and SSLs?
I don't really think there's much point to making LP articles for tournaments that have half the info missing
Thanks for keeping the ELO up to date btw, awesome!
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With the exception of the first SRT, the only things that are missing are some detailed results or map orders (in which case, you just put W/L instead of scores). So I think there's more than enough information to make LP articles for all the tournament info I've posted so far.
tbh SSL 1-5 will probably have a lot of the same problems (whenever I have the time to compile lol). I agree though. sometime in the future, it'd be nice for Sonic to release more centralized, detailed information
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On December 28 2012 04:25 Crunchums wrote:Thanks for doing this unfortunately, those ELO ratings are a depressing reminder that the world will probably never see BW played at the level that the pros were playing at before the scene disintegrated
Crunchums rubbing it in, I can almost feel physical pain.
Thanks for the effort man, shall check the "depressing reminder" once in a while, ouch!
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Now you wet my greedy appetite; I hope somebody got SOSPA Power Rank in the works. Wanted to do it myself but found it to be surprisingly difficult work, which I expected but still...
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On January 23 2013 05:01 ArvickHero wrote:
With the exception of the first SRT, the only things that are missing are some detailed results or map orders (in which case, you just put W/L instead of scores). So I think there's more than enough information to make LP articles for all the tournament info I've posted so far.
tbh SSL 1-5 will probably have a lot of the same problems (whenever I have the time to compile lol). I agree though. sometime in the future, it'd be nice for Sonic to release more centralized, detailed information
Think there's anyone here on TL that could actually get in touch with him? Maybe snipealot could, I know he's at least talked to him before.
I'll get started on making the LP pages for some more of the SRTs.
EDIT:
Here's the first one I've made so far. Looks all right.
8th SOSPA Ranking Tournament
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Thanks for puting the work in.
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I think that the ELO of new players should be gained/lost so fast. There are way to many high ELO players with a small amount of games.
Is there a decay system implimented where games are worth less over time (Both win and loss)?
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On January 24 2013 06:31 thezanursic wrote:
I think that the ELO of new players should be gained/lost so fast. There are way to many high ELO players with a small amount of games.
Is there a decay system implimented where games are worth less over time (Both win and loss)?
Ya, I agree that my formula isn't that great. There's a description in the OP of how my formula works
+ Show Spoiler [from OP] +There are two important constants that determine exactly what an Elo number means: the starting rating and the rating constant (called K). My rating system uses a starting rating of 2000 (which seems similar what TLPD uses) and uses a tiered constant (similar to that described by the Wikipedia page, as used for chess). I use a constant of 30 until a player has played 30 games, then 15 until the player has played 100 games, and then 10 after that. This means that a new player's Elo will change three times as fast as a player who was played many games.
What do you mean by decay? Usually by decay in ranking systems people mean that you lose points over time (ie, so a player who doesn't play any games for a year will have a lower rating than he used to). As far as I can tell, that sort of decay isn't part of the Elo rating system -- but I pretty much just know what I read from the Elo Wikipedia page .
If you just mean that a player's games have less of an effect on their Elo rating if they've played more games then yes, my formula takes that into account. I think this is pretty standard: I copied the idea from the Wikipedia article's discussion of how chess players calculate Elo. There are some constants that control exactly how fast this dropoff is. I copied these constans I believe the idea is to allow new players to reach their proper Elo very quickly. There are some constants that control exactly how fast players start to stabilize their Elo. I copied these constants from Chess, so they're probably not optimal for Brood War.
I'm definitely open to suggestions as to how to make this rating system better. Can you point out which players you think are rated higher than they should be and who have played very few games? Maybe that way we can try and tune those constants to provide a better list of the top players. The rating constants are very easy to change, so feel free to grab the code from github (link in the OP) and mess around with it yourself!
Also, when you're looking at the list it's important to note that there are only about 50 players in total, as opposed to around a thousand for the BW TLPD. Thus, a player being in the top 20 in my Elo list doesn't mean he's nearly as good as being in the TLPD top 20 -- in fact, there's only about 20 players with positive win rates!
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sea is playing here too? he retired from sc2 but his first love got him back nice
in theory, would savior have a chance to play it here or it is forbidden for him?
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Norway25712 Posts
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Wholly shiiiiiit. Did not realise that the 8th SSL was back on. WHAT HAVE I MISSED?
I followed the saga and quit BW altogether when Sonic's message to the fans said he was done. Sonic you are a legend. And to get Kim Carrier and ex-MSL caster? WOW. I don't even speak Korean but that's massive.
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Norway25712 Posts
Finally got around to adding 6th SOSPA Ranking Tournament to the wiki. Gotta go get some work done, probably gonna add another one this evening ^^,
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Norway25712 Posts
All of the SRT tournaments are now on the LP. If anyone has ANY more info on the first one, that'd be awesome, because it's the only one with absolutely 0 results. Also a lot of them are missing map scores, so it'd be great if people were able to dig those up so we could make the articles complete!
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thank you so much KAG ~~ ^^ :D
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Magic Woods9326 Posts
It's a work in progress. Next week I'm adding all the Special events. That doesn't count towards ELO however.
We are missing details from + Show Spoiler +SRT1-Missing matches
SRT2-Missing set scores
SRT3-Missing set scores
SRT4-Missing maps
SRT5-Missing set scores
SRT7-Missing set scores
SRT8-Missing set scores
SRT9-Missing matches Still missing group c and d
SSL1-Missing matches
SSL2-Missing matches
SSL3-Missing matches
SSL4-Missing matches
SSL5-Missing matches
SSL6-Missing set scores
SSL6.5-Missing set scores
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Australia1064 Posts
It would be great if you could keep the website online until the new TLPD is fully filled out, it has been and continues to be an invaluable resource for our SOSPA news guys.
Thanks again.
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On March 13 2013 17:29 kjwcj wrote:It would be great if you could keep the website online until the new TLPD is fully filled out, it has been and continues to be an invaluable resource for our SOSPA news guys. Thanks again.
OK, sure. It's still up (the link is in that spoiler in the OP) at the same location. I actually think it contains strictly less information than the TLPD does now, but now that it's up it's not very hard to keep it that way.
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