I don't use facebook either. Thank you for posting it here. This is so petty I cannot believe people still have the audacity to try and broker match-fixing through Sonic's hard work. It's sad and it's pathetic.

L_Master

United States8017 Posts

December 12 2012 06:28 GMT

#63

Fuckin money and the shit people will do for it. Willing to drag others and a reviving scene with them, seriously hope whoever the damn match-fixers were go down in big flames and are gone from this scene permanently.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

December 12 2012 06:29 GMT

#64

<Kimoleon> got info on monday during nto clan match, there was a connection with a sasultoto (company name I think) broker and confirmed it
<Kimoleon> many players and the leader refused the offer of matchfixing, but one player (don't tell whether he was from NTO clan or not) has confessed to his match fixing, through that player have proof (apparently he gave testimony that other players in Sonic All Stars and other leagues could also have gotten involved) that others in sonic all stars may have match fixed
<Kimoleon> but on the bright side through this event investigation we found numerous players, clan masters, even my broadcasting managers have confirmed refusing these brokers. (It seems that there is no evidence tying NTO Clan with the match fixing)
<Kimoleon> though many confirmations, we found out information on who tried to recruit the NTO clan, that certain gamer was threatened that they would release his name on the matchfixing list, currently linked to this event the truth has been spread from my police investigation request
<Kimoleon> even if the past giant kespa organization could not stop the contact between these brokers and players, how could I BJ Sonic alone prevent hundreds of ppl, bj, etc them? it's so draining and exhausting..
<Kimoleon> these last two days, I've fallen into a state of dejection and helplessness.
<Kimoleon> I was told I could not solve this on my own, the best case is with investigate these brokers who were the ones running the matchfixing, with the checkcall records and the owner of these numbers will be under investigation.
<Kimoleon> this might be tough for people who are playing starcraft, but I have to say this
<Kimoleon> (long list of criminal offenses they can be charged with, interfereance with business, gambling, cheating etc)
cheating etc)
<Kimoleon> when a broker approaches you and says, "if it's just two of us its ok you know?", "after a meal some drinks, I'll give you some cash, they can't catch us. no proof", "we'll take it to our graves" will the be appraoch of these people. In this world, nothing can stay secret forever.
<Kimoleon> (more talk, how even his broadcast manager got offered, what if they get caught, will they pay their lawyer fees etc)
<Kimoleon> until this problem is solved, from my senior year in high school I put my golden years into starcraft1 broodwar... starting my sonic star lessons, amateur leagues, and now passing 2.5 years bj starleague.. after being released from the army I couldn't forget it so I started again, while running a small business couldn't let this go, even as it gives me stress can't let go.. this starcraft league that I love cannot go on.
<Kimoleon> 8th bj starleague connected thousands of dollars from sponsors, big companies with good offers.. stopped all these current talks, the chance given to me, sponsor, offers so that I can put all my effort into ending this event which made fun of viewers and give mistrust to honest players. If this cannot be solved I'm willing to cut my eonnections with starcraft. (Comment: statement seems to imply that even if this offers aren't retracted Sonic himself isn't going to proceed with these offers until this problem has been resolved)
further statement telling everyone not to speculate with netizens being netizens, telling involved parties to give him info and he won't press criminal charges

clarified some info, included minor change from secondary edit

Gosi

Sweden9072 Posts

December 12 2012 06:33 GMT

#65

It was kind of bound to happen anyway if the chance came up to match fix for extra cash. These guys are in a pretty desperate situation since most of them never made any relevant money in progaming and I bet the pressure from family and stuff is pretty high because they didn't get successful while the society is super competitive there.

Money problems can bring out the worst in people unfortunately. :<

TsGBruzze

Sweden1190 Posts

December 12 2012 06:43 GMT

#66

T.T

Ryo

8787 Posts

December 12 2012 07:27 GMT

#67

wtf urgh.

Don't give up Sonic! You have our support.

NEEDZMOAR

Sweden1277 Posts

December 12 2012 07:37 GMT

#68

SONIC HWAITING

Birdie

New Zealand4438 Posts

December 12 2012 07:51 GMT

#69

This: http://afbbs.afreeca.com:8080/app/read_ucc_bbs.cgi?szBjId=sogoodtt&nStationNo=55614&nBbsNo=&nTitleNo=2749055&nRowNum=15&szSkin=&nPageNo=1#

Has a new meaning now T_T Same Mistakes.

zefreak

United States2731 Posts

December 12 2012 09:05 GMT

#70

This is horrible news

BW deserves better than this

Antisocialmunky

United States5912 Posts

December 12 2012 09:13 GMT

#71

Sonic is pretty cool for his dedication. I hope he can pull himself together after this or he could get some help with the league on his end. It seems like a waste to let something so good die. Part of me can't help but think he's being a little too dramatic though announcing the end of everything. It doesn't seem fair to the fans or the players who refused that the match fixers that that it all ends because a (probably) minority of players decided to be dicks.

Hopefully everything can recover once the initial shock wears off

Hoender

South Africa381 Posts

December 12 2012 09:24 GMT

#72

Sonic please don't give up! I've only recently discovered the SSL (I've even managed to get my housemates into it) after virtually no BW exposure since the hybrid Proleague. This is probably the most excited I've been for BW in a really long time - please continue the legacy!

Sonic Hwaiting!!!

Sephy90

United States1785 Posts

December 12 2012 09:48 GMT

#73

What the flying fuck man.. as angry as I feel I can't even imagine how Sonic must feel.. Seriously whatever you must do Sonic I support it. This is so disgusting -.-

Trufflez

Australia174 Posts

December 12 2012 09:50 GMT

#74

I was heartcracked aleady. This broke it. I'm actually tearing up. Fuck this. Brood War is my home. I can't let it go. I was devastated at saviOr. The end of OSL nearly killed me. This just about has. Fuck this. I don't wanna watch a MOBA. I don't wanna watch deathball wars. I want my home.

Fuck. This.

Ten years mean jack shit. FUCK THIS.

Wintex

Norway16838 Posts

December 12 2012 11:04 GMT

#75

Don't give up, Sonic... This is so depressing. Please work hard and eliminate these threads so we can enjoy BW together.

화이팅! 소닉업. 스타1 <3

Darksoldierr

Hungary2012 Posts

December 12 2012 12:11 GMT

#76

Well, thats pretty dissapointing

Lorch

Germany3686 Posts

December 12 2012 12:30 GMT

#77

Not again T.T
Really hope this won't kill brood war forever, I really enjoyed watching SSL/SOSPA...
Keep fighting sonic, you can do it!!!

Solarsail

United Kingdom538 Posts

December 12 2012 12:49 GMT

#78

So BW was killed first through Blizzard lawsuits and match-fixing.

And now its revival is being re-killed by the same things.

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

December 12 2012 13:03 GMT

#79

On December 12 2012 21:49 Solarsail wrote:
So BW was killed first through Blizzard lawsuits and match-fixing.

And now its revival is being re-killed by the same things.

mother of god... you are right.