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kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 09:28:55
November 10 2012 09:28 GMT
#61
Giyom is such an interesting and well-spoken dude, thanks for the interview.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
November 10 2012 09:42 GMT
#62
Really good read. Definitely did not expect an interview with Grrrr... to happen, pleasant surprise :D
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 10 2012 09:55 GMT
#63
Still think it's so weird that a guy living like he did could be so dominating at his peak. Thanks for the interview!
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WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
November 10 2012 10:44 GMT
#64
Really nice read, very informative and interesting interview!
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
November 10 2012 11:39 GMT
#65
The OSL final was the second most viewed program on a cable TV channel after the football World Cup. Starcraft was not only super popular, it was super cool. I had people of all ages come up to me in public because I was a progamer.


"Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era—the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run… but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant.…

History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshit, but even without being sure of "history" it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time—and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened.

We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave.…

So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
StarCraft2
Profile Joined October 2012
160 Posts
November 10 2012 12:36 GMT
#66
Thanks for posting this, good shit!!!!
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
November 10 2012 13:00 GMT
#67
That was quite an interesting read, thanks for going through all the effort Thorin!
Your interviews are very detailed and your BW knowledge seems to have a lot of depth so you can ask very relevant questions.
I hope to read more of them in the future!
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 10 2012 13:07 GMT
#68
Very cool, thank you for this.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
November 10 2012 13:39 GMT
#69
On November 10 2012 21:36 StarCraft2 wrote:
Thanks for posting this, good shit!!!!

How was your username not taken before this
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BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
November 10 2012 14:29 GMT
#70
I had nerd chills read through the whole article, ty so much:-)
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 14:37:48
November 10 2012 14:32 GMT
#71
On November 10 2012 05:23 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Grrrr... was the Stephano of bw.

Never practiced, got drunk a lot, somehow still dominated the first few years.

Ya, cause Stephano moved to Korea and won the GSL, right? ....... It's not similar at all.

Really interesting interview. Grrrr... was really a hero for me when I first started playing StarCraft 1v1. But when I heard figures like "practice 4 hours a day" and him saying things like he was just getting too old to play the game, I knew they were excuses even then. Maybe it's because it was his first time out on his own, and he didn't have the discipline yet, was just coping with the new challenges by getting drunk (no wonder he never felt homesick lol).

Grrrr... is forever a legend in my mind. If he had known how big SC was going to get with or without him, I'm sure he would have played a lot harder.

gg nore. yolo
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 10 2012 15:05 GMT
#72
He switched to protoss because his control wasn't enough to keep up with zvz zergling micro and his hands weren't fast enough to multi using terran.

Besides, his protoss build orders were always the strongest he ever had.

When Maynard was in Korea he swtiched from zerg to terran because he had a really hard time winning zvt, but then, his hands weren't fast enough.

In the last korean tournament he played, he went Z to 4 pool people because he cba trying.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
November 10 2012 15:23 GMT
#73
Loving these articles from Team Acer, really nice stuff.
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zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
November 10 2012 15:52 GMT
#74
Wow, I can't believe I just got to read that. Thank's a bunch for posting it over here, really great work. I've wanted to hear the answers to these questions for ever. I've always been and still am a big fan of (P)Grrrr.... and watch his old VODs a few times a year. Thanks Thorin, you are awesome.
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
November 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#75
On November 10 2012 06:10 Thorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 06:05 slappy wrote:
Very good read. Thank you!

On November 10 2012 05:43 endy wrote:
Wow, Thorin you are writing really good articles. It's sad that your article about Stork got so few feedback. SC2 people are too busy with drama I guess haha. Thank you !


I must have missed this. Where can I find it?

http://www.aceresport.com/uk/content/211.htm - Stork's silver path of courage

I missed it to. Thank you for linking your article xd. I have a lot of stuff to read tonight.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 10 2012 18:50 GMT
#76
Grrr was one of my favorite players way back when. Just loved being able to watch a non-korean and see him do so well. Was very exciting.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
November 10 2012 19:09 GMT
#77
Damn, didn't expect this. Lovely interview; thanks.
I like things.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
November 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#78
Nice interview, not all that much unique content yet that is hard to get with somebody that was big. Upside for me is that I clicked the stork link, thanks for the content.
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
November 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#79
People like Grrrr and rekrul have such awesome lives, god damn
StarCraft2
Profile Joined October 2012
160 Posts
November 10 2012 20:53 GMT
#80
On November 10 2012 22:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 21:36 StarCraft2 wrote:
Thanks for posting this, good shit!!!!

How was your username not taken before this

I asked the same question, this account is the answer.
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