On December 19 2012 08:24 Glioburd wrote: I remember Sea was saying at an interview that he found SC2 funnier than BW, basically he said he prefered SC2. We know what he think actually. I agree with Ribbon, I don't think it's possible for a former BW pro to prefer SC2. Especially those who made results.
Yeah and ofc you can`t take korean players for serious, if they say something alike" at first i disliked sc2 but now i feel its a good game". It is expectated from this players to communicate in a positive way about the game, not to speak their minds.
Doing the opposite would
1) hurt the professionality of the players
2) Shed a bad light on their teams and sponsors
3) bring hate from sc2 fanboys, since the sc2 community is like an angry hive of wasps anyway.
Back when PvZ was heavily Zerg favoured (55 - 65% statistically for Zerg on like, every map) some pro Protoss users, when asked about it in interviews, pretended like nothing was wrong. Lol. Obviously something was wrong - the maps. Many of them didn't allow for forge expanding, or even for good 1 gate expanding.
There have been some maps that favour Protoss in PvZ (like Othello: ~55% PvZ), but not as many as favour Zerg.
On December 19 2012 02:39 ChoiSulli wrote: lol as if this is so surprising. I will be shocked the day someone who has played BW comes out and says they prefer SCII
Fantasy?
fantasy also explicitly said "hellions suck" in a PL interview after winning a match in hybrid league.
people opinions are mixed obviously
That's not an opinion on the game, that's a balance whine.
On December 19 2012 08:24 Glioburd wrote: I remember Sea was saying at an interview that he found SC2 funnier than BW, basically he said he prefered SC2. We know what he think actually. I agree with Ribbon, I don't think it's possible for a former BW pro to prefer SC2. Especially those who made results.
Yeah and ofc you can`t take korean players for serious, if they say something alike" at first i disliked sc2 but now i feel its a good game". It is expectated from this players to communicate in a positive way about the game, not to speak their minds.
As someone who follows the SC2 scene, let me assure you that SC2 pros bitch about the game incessantly. Idra's the most famous (though, oddly enough, he seems to like HotS), but they all do it. Foreigners a bit more than Koreans, but DRG had a rant on why Force Field was bullshit, and everyone hated Vortex so badly that even Blizzard's official explanation for why it got nerfed into oblivion in HotS was ripped directly from Idra. Every SC2 vs BW thread has someone cite that big post from LaLuSh about how SC2 bases have too many mineral patches and it fucks up the game etc (I have several disagreements with that post, but that's neither here nor there).
Nony made a video of why BW carriers were better than SC2 carriers, which got popular enough that it led to Blizzard letting Carriers change targets at leash range. Small change compared to the difference, but a change.
SC2 fans are a bit weird. They get defensive if the game is attacked on a forum, but agree strongly with those same arguments from an SC2 pro, especially one with a BW background.
Now, yes, the KeSPA players might be different because KeSPA has major issues, but I imagine we'll be seeing that discipline break before too long. Bisu, at least, has to loathe SC2, if for no other reason than a game he was godly at got replaced with a game he's...*checks TLPD* 3-7 in, and not even getting fielded in SKT's last game. Two of those wins were against Sea!
But, like I said. I think a lot of them are holding their tongues until HotS comes out.
I really wish the BW pros were more vocal, though. Might get some things changed if there was an outcry.
Im so sad he retired, he was on my PL fantasy team and everything. His play was becoming so fantastic so quickly, sad to see his passion fade. Hopefully he finds fun/love in Brood War on afreeca though!
Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
[QUOTE]On December 19 2012 10:37 Ribbon wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 07:27 N.geNuity wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 06:30 DyEnasTy wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 02:39 ChoiSulli wrote: lol as if this is so surprising. I will be shocked the day someone who has played BW comes out and says they prefer SCII[/QUOTE]
Fantasy?[/QUOTE]
fantasy also explicitly said "hellions suck" in a PL interview after winning a match in hybrid league.
people opinions are mixed obviously
That's not an opinion on the game, that's a balance whine. [/QUOTE]
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
*Boots up BW*
Now, that's actually a pretty serious accusation. Nony was free to make a big video on why SC2 carriers suck and I think even get it featured. Why wouldn't Sea have the same right?
He probably just doesn't want to start a fight over it.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
*Boots up BW*
Now, that's actually a pretty serious accusation. Nony was free to make a big video on why SC2 carriers suck and I think even get it featured. Why wouldn't Sea have the same right?
He probably just doesn't want to start a fight over it.
Not that I'm agreeing with him, but there's a difference between making a video on how carriers can be improved and saying that the game is bad.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
*Boots up BW*
is this a real quote of a conversation?
Are you seriously asking that question?
yes i do
are you seriously asking?
Come on, this conversation is obviously NOT real. ...
On December 19 2012 02:39 ChoiSulli wrote: lol as if this is so surprising. I will be shocked the day someone who has played BW comes out and says they prefer SCII
Fantasy?
fantasy also explicitly said "hellions suck" in a PL interview after winning a match in hybrid league.
people opinions are mixed obviously
That's not an opinion on the game, that's a balance whine.
from what I can remember, the commentators asked like "aw, the terrorist, you must be enjoying hellions in sc2 right? What do you think of them, they are close to the pulture....."
and he responded with that. I'm 70% sure the question was like that, one of the many hybrid league questions that tried to compare bw to sc2 for the viewers in the post match interviews (immediately post match, not formal fomos/daily esports interviews). But the question I believe was about enjoyment, fwiw.
not important anyways since it literally was a 5 second response in a random after-match interview.
I gotta say, snipealot is the coolest. I've been seeing Fantasy, Nada, Bisu, Miya, and Sea play great games all day. It's the best. I hope this means that fans are interested enough maybe to put together some of their own leagues.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
On December 19 2012 11:40 jinorazi wrote: Sea: I really can't get into sc2, i'm trying really hard but its frustrating the more i play. There is no reason for me to play, having fun is priority, i'm going to retire. Nazgul: Whats wrong? You were so excited at first. Sea: Starcraft 2 is not fun. Nazgul: Hmm, if you're that determined I can't stop you, just dont say sc2 sucks, we're a sc2 team heading the sc2 scene after all. Sea: Sure, no problem.
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