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[SSL] Round of 16 Preview - Where It All Began

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[SSL] Round of 16 Preview - Where It All Began

Text bykjwcj
Graphics byHawaiianPig
October 12th, 2012 03:00 GMT

Most of us weren’t around to see it start. In PC Bangs and tiny makeshift studios, players with nothing but ambition and meager personal sponsorships competed for whatever prize money was available, in the hope of making Starcraft their career. It was these players and the small, now forgotten tournaments they competed in that laid the groundwork for the phenomenon that was the Korean professional Brood War scene. When the doors closed at the MBC Game studio and the lights went down at Jamsil Student Gymnasium, Brood War progaming was supposedly over.

“The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”
Brood War, 2012

From the dedication of Sonic and his sponsors, the hard work of players, ex-pro and amateur, and the loyalty of fans, both in Korea and abroad, comes the 7th Sonic Starleague. An offline tournament, played in front of a live audience in Seoul, Korea with 10 million won on the line.

Join us as we review the lessons from the Ro32, take a chance to enjoy a selection of the VODs ArvickHero has worked so hard to organise and revel in the brilliance and the terror that lurks in the mind of Sky[kaL]. Finally, when you are fully up to speed with what has taken place in the online portion of the tournament, join us as we look ahead to the Ro16 groups, played at Sonic’s studio in Jeungmi, Seoul.




Table of Contents

Five Things We Learned
From the Round of 32


10 Recommended Games

Battle Report

Round of 16 Previews



Five Things We Learned From the Round of 32By kjwcj



The Hwaseung Dynasty Continues


The most challenging thing about covering an Afreeca league is not finding information about unknown amateur players, deciphering Google-translated information from terribly organised Afreeca bulletin boards or even catching up on the massive number of games that have been so carefully collated by TL legend ArvickHero.

No.

The most challenging thing about covering an Afreeca league is finding new ways to say “Former Hwaseung Oz progamer”. Ex-Oz, Ex-Hwaseung, Former Oz, Former Hwaseung, Former Jaedong Teammate, SPL 2007 Champion. I like to think I’m a relatively creative person but there is not enough creativity in the mind of every painter, poet, author and musician on the planet to come up with a sufficient number of ways to say “Yep, this dude was on Hwaseung too”.


Hide yo drones, hide yo probes.


Since the disbandment of Hwaseung OZ in 2011, Afreeca has been struck by an all singing, all dancing tsunami of talent from the team that Cho Jeong Woong built. Five of the eight players in the Terror BJ Starleague quarter-final, four of the Hodduk Starleague Ro8 and both players in the final of the last Sonic Starleague. Honestly, if OZ players were this good when they were still competing in Proleague, Jaedong’s back muscles would have atrophied.

The unfortunate loss of Anytime and BackHo to real life duties saw the ex-Hwaseung ranks take a hit in recent months. However, the arrival of Killer and Perfectman quickly did away with any idea that perhaps former CJ, KT or MBC players might get a chance to win something for once. Of the seven retired OZ players participating in the SSL, five made it to the Ro16 with their big three of HiyA, Killer and Sky appearing as heavy favourites to advance.



The Cavalry Has Arrived


It seems like every new Afreeca Starleague in the past year has seen the debut of a set of new ex-progamers, fresh from KeSPA retirement and unable or unwilling to suppress their need for competition. The latest crop of Afreeca debutants is one of the strongest ever and the new kids on the block wasted no time in making their presence felt.

The most notable of the bunch is obviously ex-Hwaseung and T8 Zerg, Killer, who has looked a level above most of the players on Fish since he begun streaming a few months ago. Although he was placed in the relatively weak Group B, Killer was imperious in the Ro32, advancing with perfect play and a perfect score. Elsewhere, recent retiree and former Hwaseung player, Perfectman, looked relatively assured as he advanced to the Ro16, dismissing beast 3-0 in the Group B final match.

Yet another former ex-OZ progamer, Saber_Lt, made a strong impression as he topped Group E. Saber’s good form is a pleasant surprise given the amount of time that has passed since his retirement and his relatively recent arrival to the BJ scene. His performance against Sexy was especially impressive, taking two solid late-game wins over a Terran player who has previously taken wins off the likes of Minho and Luxury.



Amateurism Fading


While technically the SSL is an amateur league, the huge influx of A team progamers into the scene in the last year has slowly begun to marginalise the old guard of semi-pro and amateur players who were for a long time the lifeblood of the Afreeca scene. Swift eliminations for the likes of force[name], Minus)mahell and AsiaSin[ScM] paint a bleak picture for the future of those players not lucky or talented enough to have spent time as part of a professional team.

However, not all is lost for the semi-pros. Lead by IcaruS[ScM] and Shinee, two players who have been competing at the highest level on Fish and West for a number of years now, a small number of hard-working and well-prepared semi-pros have made it to the Ro16 and stand a decent chance of making it further if things work out their way.


Shinee, the Hulk Terran. You wouldn't like him when he's angry.


Whether it’s a case of the better players from the pro scene displacing those who were never quite good enough to make it or just disenchantment for long time BJs who have lost their audience to famous ex-pro streamers, it is sad to see the guys who competed so valiantly in the past drift away from the scene. With the SOSPA Proleague due to begin soon, there should be an opportunity for the players who for a long time formed the core of this scene to again have a reason to practice and a chance to compete.



The King is Dead, Long Live the King(s?)


Anyone who watched Afreeca streams regularly during the first half of 2012 will remember Minho_Lt. When he was at his peak and playing a lot, Minho was one of the best players to ever compete in any Afreeca tournament. His management was as good as sAviOr’s, his mutalisk aggression as good as Luxury’s and his speed and mechanics as good as HiyA’s. He was both the most entertaining and the most dominating player that you could ever hope to watch. Unfortunately for Minho, his best play came at a time when there weren’t many leagues to play in and he began streaming less and less before getting temporarily banned from Afreeca for some Terror-esque antics.

Minho still entered this tournament as a player most would have expected to at least reach the bracket stages but in his series versus Sexy he looked like a shadow of the player that he was a few months back. Conveniently, however, a group of new Zerg players have appeared to fill the void that Minho had left.

The first is Killer, who, while not quite as fast or as aggressive as Minho, comes to us with OSL Ro8 pedigree and teachings from the mouth of The Dong. There’s little doubt that Killer is an objectively better player than Minho and his performances so far in showmatches and on Fish ladder make him look like a clear favourite to win this league and any other he may choose to participate in.

Another player who has shown sufficient potential to fill the void that Minho left is former CJ Entus progamer Cola. While he was actually active on Afreeca at the same time as Minho, competing in HSL and SSL6, Cola never showed much in the way of form, being eliminated in the Ro32 of both tournaments. Since he began streaming his FPV on Afreeca, Cola’s play has improved significantly and his performance in the Ro32 of this SSL gave viewers an inkling of why CJ chose to draft him back in 2010. He is fast, very fast, and his management-oriented style of play is a lot of fun to watch when he gets up and running. While he doesn’t have the experience of Killer or the flair of Minho, Cola brings something unique to the table that we hope to see more of in the future.

Finally there is Saber_Lt, a player who we knew little about prior to this tournament. He is one of the seemingly ever expanding ex-Hwaseung crew and his play in the Ro32 was genuinely impressive. One to watch out for.



Sky Rockets in Flight


Sky is a hard player, or indeed person, to get a measure of. His APM is low, often sitting at well below 100 in the early-game, his play is often unorthodox and his manners are not always very good. In spite of this, he is very, very good at Starcraft.


Evil has a face.


At the start of 2011, when there was a huge rush of individual tournaments taking advantage of the newfound wealth of ex-progamer fame and viewer numbers, the main question was when HiyA would finally win something. In Terror and Hodduk’s Starleagues, HiyA was undone by his former teammates, losing to Sexy in the TerSL Ro8 and Anytime in the HSL Ro4. In SSL6, everything seemed to fall into place for HiyA. He was drawn on the opposite side of the bracket to all three of his former teammate Protoss and crushed his Ro8 and Ro4 opponents easily. In the final, he met Sky, a player who conventional wisdom said had the weakest PvT of the three ex-OZ Protoss.

Unfortunately for HiyA, it wasn’t to be. Sky won the final, claimed the 1.5 million won prize and then proceeded to go on an absolute tear. He topped the Fish ladder for the first time and in doing so became one of a select few to ever exceed 2000 points, he won numerous showmatches and was for an extended period of time the player to beat in any Afreeca tournament. After a while it seemed like Sky got bored, he was less active on Afreeca and Fish and he fell in showmatches to players like Pusan and Sexy, players that he never would have lost to when at his best.

Fortunately for us, it looks like Sky is trying again. His performance in the Ro32 was vintage Sky; weird, slow and damn effective. His wins over Shinee and Zergman, two very strong players who have been at or around the top of Fish ladder for some time, were exactly what you would expect from Sky when he is on his game. Sky is one of the most unique and intriguing characters in the Afreeca scene and his ability to produce interesting, if imperfect games, is unparalleled as evidenced by his Ro32 game against Shinee. With Killer on the scene now and HiyA looking as strong as ever, the likelihood of Sky taking back to back SSL victories seems slim, but viewers should look forward to Sky’s games for as long as he’s able to stick around.





10 Recommended GamesBy ArvickHero


  • 10
    (T)Mong vs Force[Name] on Neo Jade



    + Show Spoiler +



    From the ground-breaking studio AfreecaTV and visionary director Sonic. Force[Name] and Mong, starring in "Crazy Zerg"


  • 9
    (T)Mong vs (P)Pusan on Neo Electric Circuit



    + Show Spoiler +



    The Spirit is unaffected by Age.
  • 8
    (T)Shinee vs (P)Sky on Neo Jade



    + Show Spoiler +



    Shinee and Sky, mud wrestling. Action-packed, scrappy, and dirty.
  • 7
    (Z)ZergMaN vs (P)Sky on Neo Jade



    + Show Spoiler +



    Scrappy, low-econ PvZ game. And then suddenly. Corsair/Scout.
  • 6
    (T)KangTaeWan vs (Z)Terror on Fighting Spirit



    + Show Spoiler +



    Terror, the king of ceremonies. But something goes awry this game.
  • 5
    (P)Hint vs (Z)Saber on Neo Electric Circuit



    + Show Spoiler +



    Sick strategy, but will it work?
  • 4
    (T)Mong vs Minus)ZeLoT on Neo Jade



    + Show Spoiler +



    Never a dull moment.
  • 3
    (T)Sexy vs (P)Hint on Neo Jade



    + Show Spoiler +



    The game isn't over until it's over.
  • 2
    (T)KangTaeWan vs Ondol on Neo Electric Circuit



    + Show Spoiler +



    There are no such thing as hard-counter units in this game.
  • 1
    LYH vs Soma on Fighting Spirit



    + Show Spoiler +



    Great back-and-forth PvZ.





Shinee vs Sky[kaL] Battle ReportBy Simplistik


It's the Ro32 of the SSL. The map is Neo Jade. The challenger is (T)Shinee, a semi-pro Terran player who once participated in the ill-fated MyStarleague. He goes up against the reigning SSL champion, Protoss player (P)Sky[kaL], a former Hwaseung Oz pro and Dream League powerhouse(?!). This is Sky's first game on the road to defending his title. Last season he saw off (P)Anytime, (P)Pusan and (T)HiyA to clinch the gold. Can he do it again?

Shinee lands in the top left as the yellow Terran. Sky, in red, warps in at the bottom left. Both players open standard with a supply building. The map is fairly balanced for PvT, so Sky starts his nexus after making twelve probes. By that time Shinee is already half-way through building a barracks as well as a very fast refinery.

One can clearly sense early game shenanigans. Sky continues by warping in a gateway, getting his gas and making a second gateway as well as a cybernetics core. Shinee starts a factory as soon as he has collected enough gas. He also sends out two Marines and a huddle of approximately six SCVs.

The first zealot kills the two marines, but gets taken down by a vulture. Meanwhile probes have prevented the first bunker attempt. The second attempt is thwarted by Sky's first two dragoons.


Denied. For now...


Shinee stays on one base, continues to produce vultures and starts siege tank production, while upgrading from his single machine shop. Sky is researching dragoon range, while starting down the robotics tech path. A few dragoons scamper around the map, but don't find anything. With spider mines available Shinee inches his way towards the Protoss natural expansion. When siege tech finishes the shelling begins in earnest.


The sound of siege tanks makes me shiver.


A few vultures find their way into the Protoss main and manage to kill a few probes. At the same time Sky uses a shuttle loaded with two dragoons to pick off a reinforcing siege tank. Shinee is still on one base when that shuttle arrives in his main base. However, missile turrets, spider mines and vultures convince the lone dark templar passenger to stay on board.

The Siege Tanks have finally gotten in range of the Nexus. Shinee has also re-positioned his Barracks to solidify his position. But Sky has also been busy at home, researching Leg Enhancement, adding a number Gateways and making a round of Zealots. He uses them to great effect by destroying every single Siege Tank.


Where have all the siege tanks gone? Zealots killed them every one.


With his early push nearly in ruins, Shinee realises that there are only very few Protoss units left in the field. He orders his remaining marines and vultures forward, killing a number of dragoons and forcing the probes to evacuate to the safety of the main base.


Attack!


At the same time the Terran commander has realised that he can't stay on one base any longer. He starts his second command center approximately eleven and a half minutes into the game. Sky finds himself in a little bit of trouble, having no observers to help him get up his own ramp. And what does a self-respecting Protoss do in such a situation? He uses his previously ineffective dark templar shuttle to kill several reinforcing units including at least two siege tanks.

An observer finally arrives, allowing the dragoons to break into the natural. The nexus barely survives. Due to the different state of the players' respective economies Sky is able to overpower the contain with pure dragoons. He celebrates this achievement by taunting his opponent in the chat.


"Ki Ki"


After that mad moment the game calms down a bit. Shinee tries to get his two base economy going and adds a few factories. Sky replinishes his probes and continues to warp in dragoons. He fakes a storm drop, wasting some SCV mining time, and takes his third base. The Terran responds in kind by building a third command centre.

Both players continue to macro up. Shinee is evidently concerned about arbiters, so he starts construction of a science facility and assembles some goliaths. Sky has a few high templars charging up their energies. The first weapon upgrade research starts.

The game seems to be progressing normally. The Terran player fortifies the ridge connecting his natural expansion to his third base, while the Protoss takes a fourth base in the bottom right empty main. The end comes so suddenly that the observer nearly misses it. A great storm drop wipes out nearly all the SCVs at the natural. Shinee realises that he only has a handful of SCVs left and is also behind in tech and army size, so he taps out.


GG.


The previous six seasons of the SSL passed me by. So this was actually one of the first SSL games I ever watched. It was packed with action, had some tense and some funny moments and was overall of fairly high quality. But most importantly it reminded me of two games I really like: fantasy vs Stork and Bisu vs Hwasin. And so I got hooked (again)!




Round of 16 PreviewsBy kjwcj




Group AGroup BGroup CGroup D
Pusan Mong Killer Cola
IcaruS Perfectman HiyA Sky
Larva Shinee Hint Ample
Soma Saber KangTaeWan Koala


Group A

Through an oddity of the group drawing procedure used by Sonic, Group A finds itself with three players who won their Ro32 groups. In spite of this, it doesn’t seem like a particularly strong group, with none of the players in it being considered strong favourites to win the tournament or even reach the final. Group A can best be characterised as a group of underdogs, with Pusan, IcaruS and Larva all having shown, both in the Ro32 and in other tournaments, that they have the potential to upset the very best but not quite the level of skill to consistently be a factor.


This is the most normal Pusan's face has ever looked.


Pusan and IcaruS look to be the two clear favourites to progress, with the winner of their meeting likely deciding who advances first in the group. These two have some history in the SSL, with Pusan eliminating IcaruS 3-1 in the Ro8 of SSL6. IcaruS’s TvZ looked strong in the Ro32 and with both Larva and Soma having exhibited little proficiency outside of ZvP so far, he looks in good shape to make it to the Ro8. Pusan ought to be a little more worried, his PvZ often relies on gimmicky play and up against Larva, his clanmate and regular practice partner, he’s unlikely to have any new tricks to pull. In the past, Pusan has been able to pull of a decent macro game when the occasion calls for it, his ability to do so here will likely be the difference between the Ro8 and elimination.

Pusan and IcaruS to advance.

Group B

In congruence with the strange circumstances of Group A, Group B finds itself with three second place getters from the Ro32 but has ended up looking like a much stronger group. All four players have shown enough to suggest they’re good enough to reach the Ro8 and who advances will likely be decided by how the match-ups shake out and the form of the players on the day.

As the current leader of the SOSPA BJ rankings, a lot is expected of Mong in this tournament. He is probably the best equipped player in the entire tournament to take down Killer, with TvZ having been his specialty since his days as a CJ progamer. However in the Ro32, Mong looked like he’d be lucky to even making to the Ro16, needing five games to defeat relatively unknown semi-pro Minus)ZeloT in the Group A final. Having looked that vulnerable in what has always been his strongest match-up, it will be one hell of a revival if Mong gets it together and advances from this group.

Elsewhere, past SSL champion Shinee only just scraped through Group D after winning 3-2 versus ZergMaN and Perfectman advanced easily over relatively weak opposition in the form of beast[kaL]. As the only player in this group to have advanced to the Ro16 in first place, Saber looks to be in an excellent position to continue his impressive debut run into the Ro8. With a solid victory over strong TvZ player Sexy in the Ro32, Saber should be favoured against both Shinee and Mong based on the form they’ve shown so far in the tournament. Saber’s other Ro32 series, a ZvP against Hint was a good clean win but doesn’t prove anything conclusive about his ability to take out a player of Perfectman’s experience. This group may come down to Perfectman’s ability to win a PvT, a match-up in which he has not been tested so far in this tournament but one in which he was probably least awful during his career as a progamer.

Saber and Perfectman to advance.

Group C

Group C features two of the favourites to win the whole tournament facing off against two players who needed needed all five games to advance from their Ro32 groups. Hint played some neat PvT as he reverse swept Sexy in Group E and has a slim but definitely real chance of taking down HiyA, whose TvP has been his Achilles’ heel in past Afreeca leagues. KangTaeWan won a lot of TvZs as he advanced from Group F but will likely pose little threat to either Killer or HiyA.


Two out of three ain't bad.


This group, then, is essentially about one Bo3 between HiyA and Killer to decide who gets the better seed into the the Ro8. Past meetings between the two have generally swung in favour of Killer, with the ex-T8 Zerg’s more recent exit from the progamer lifestyle likely playing a big role. HiyA’s standard TvZ is excellent and he also has the ability to mix in some builds which could take his old teammate by surprise. Although, HiyA’s ability to execute standard play is about as good any other Terran in the tournament, it probably isn’t good enough to beat Killer in a long game. Preparation or invention could be key for HiyA here but even then it’s hard to say whether or not it will be enough to overcome the best player in the tournament. Either way, this is the most high profile match-up of this round and the victor will likely be favourite to win it all.

Killer and HiyA to advance.

Group D

While Group B is difficult to predict because of the strange form of its competitors, Group D has the same issue simply because all the players involved are so good. Sky and Koala demolished their groups with consummate ease, Sky having appeared to regain some of his past form and Koala setting a record for the quickest 4-0 in history, taking a little over 30 minutes of gametime to win a weak Group H. Their good performances in the Ro32 should have given them confidence about reaching the Ro8 and if the groups were drawn differently they may have been favourites. The two second place getters have potential to upset things however.

Cola’s only real mistake so far in this tournament has been to get drawn in a group with HiyA. While his ZvT didn’t look objectively bad in his Group C match against the ex-OZ Terran, it wasn’t anything close to being enough to win him the group. After being quickly dismissed by HiyA, Cola rallied and was a level above his two remaining opponents, StarCue and Minus)eagle. Having reached the Ro4 of the last SSL, it was a bit of a surprise that Ample just barely scraped through to the Ro16 and based on his showings against both Perry and He)Jy, he should be desperate to avoid playing Sky in any meaningful scenario.

Although it is closely matched, based on his past form and current level of activity Sky should have enough to advance from this group in first place. The real fight should be for the second spot and as in Group B, it will likely come down to which match-ups are played and the individual form of the players on the day. Although he struggled in the Ro32, Ample’s past experience in these tournaments and his strong TvT showings give him enough of an edge to be the favourite for that second slot but the group remains finely poised.

Sky and Ample to advance.




WRITERS: kjwcj, Simplistik, ArvickHero
GRAPHICS: HawaiianPig
EDITORS: SirJolt, 2Pacalypse-
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Last Edited: 2012-10-12 03:32:28
October 12 2012 03:14 GMT
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I love the picture at the top. So cool

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HawaiianPig
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October 12 2012 03:30 GMT
#3
Killer, HiyA, Perfectman, Pusan... now this is a Starleague
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October 12 2012 03:30 GMT
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Wow, thank you so much. I never have time to follow ssl.
Hesmyrr
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Canada5776 Posts
October 12 2012 03:48 GMT
#5
So Hwaseung is the Evil Empire now? :p
Beautiful write up as always, and thanks for the vod recommendations as there had been some I had not noticed.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
ArvickHero
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October 12 2012 04:34 GMT
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Too sick

Guaranteed I'll have much better VOD quality Ro16 onwards .. and write better descriptions for recommended games xD
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October 12 2012 04:38 GMT
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Great work! :D
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October 12 2012 04:39 GMT
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Good shit kjwcj.
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October 12 2012 04:43 GMT
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It lives! Can't wait for this, although ill have to watch the vods.
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October 12 2012 04:45 GMT
#10
Terrific article. Why isn't this on the front page?!?
I haven't missed a single game so far and I'm loving every minute of it. I think Snipealot's stream deserves a shout out since he started stream 24/7 you can always catch any of these awesome player's fpviews.
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October 12 2012 04:45 GMT
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just realized ro16 is today ^_^ lets gooooooooooooo thanks for the awesome article .
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October 12 2012 04:48 GMT
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Ex-Hwaseung on a tear. Shiiiiit. Too good.
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October 12 2012 04:50 GMT
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Oh wow this is a real Starleague !
Thanks guys for the nice work !
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October 12 2012 05:23 GMT
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On October 12 2012 12:30 HawaiianPig wrote:
Killer, HiyA, Perfectman, Pusan... now this is a Starleague


QFT !
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Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
October 12 2012 05:44 GMT
#15
this looks pretty amazing.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 12 2012 06:13 GMT
#16
killer~
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 12 2012 06:24 GMT
#17
what an amazing writeup ! :D

thanks !

it is awesome, maybe it doesnt feel the same as MSL/OSL but it IS close ! :D

BW Forever !!!

PUSAN, HIYA and SKY FIGHTIIIIIIIIIIING !!!!!!
T H C makes ppl happy
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
October 12 2012 06:24 GMT
#18
Wow nice write-up. Thx for that!
And Evil looks so evil in that pic XD!
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia902 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 08:15:52
October 12 2012 07:47 GMT
#19
Sweeeeeeet! So glad that things are still going on in BW
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 07:58:14
October 12 2012 07:57 GMT
#20
<3 killer

sick writeup, ofc
Writer
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
October 12 2012 08:25 GMT
#21
Amazing writeup, I had no idea there was still such a big amateur league in korea even before the end of "official" broodwar. Nice to see that the game continues to live.
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
October 12 2012 09:12 GMT
#22
awesome!Thanks for all that.
Thats what i needed. Some of the games have just been incredible.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 12 2012 09:21 GMT
#23
great write-up, pusan was training earlier... this gonna be awesome!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
AzureHath
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria154 Posts
October 12 2012 10:10 GMT
#24
BROOD WAR LIVES !
BW: iloveoov/JulyZerg/BoxeR/Midas/NaDa/Bisu[Shield] | SC2: IdrA/HuK/Grubby/WhiteRa/DIMAGA/JulyZerg/DongRaeGu
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9492 Posts
October 12 2012 10:37 GMT
#25
SSL warms my heart <3

Great work guys!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
October 12 2012 10:52 GMT
#26
great writeup! There were several gems in there that I would otherwise have missed.
It'll be interesting to see how spot-on the predictions are, I haven't followed the Afreeca scene too closely so while most of the names ring a bell I have no idea about how they stack up vs each other in their current form. Most of the predictions seemed reasonable, but as you mentioned in the writeup, I suspect Groups B and D might play out differently than predicted...

My thoughts (not predictions) on the groups:

Group A - I've seen IcaruS and Larva provide for many exciting games before, there's also Pusan who's basically my childhood hero, meaning I'm going to watch most (if not all) of the games in this group.
PS: I don't think I've ever heard of Soma. Should I feel embarrassed by that?

Group B - Prior to reading the predictions I had no idea about Mong's shaky performance lately, but since his play has impressed me so many times before I'm gonna give him another chance, if he plays really poorly for some reason I might skip his games... Or at least I would if he were in any other group, but as it stands Perfectman, Shinee and Saber have all showed talent and/or hilarious games before, so I suspect this will a group worth watching every single game in anyway
As previously stated I have no idea who's gonna advance in this group, which makes it all the more interesting.

Group C - KangTaeWan was previously unknown to me, but then I saw one of his TvZ's during RO32 and had to see the rest, they were all extremely entertaining (and most were very educational as well). With Hiya and Killer also being in this group I don't think I need to give any additional justification for why I will (and why you should also) watch every single game in this group. Yeah, Hiya and Killer are almost certainly gonna be the ones to advance, but that doesn't make this group any less exciting.

Group D - Sky and Cola are both cool, the 2 terran bros in this group I'm not familiar with. This is the group I'm personally the least keen to watch, but Cola might pull something off, and Sky almost certainly will. I might check out some of Ample's games as well since kjwcj gave him some cred in the predictions... but yeah I feel somewhat ambivalent about this group...


Thanks again for the writeup! I <3 u long tiem
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 12 2012 11:10 GMT
#27
Awesome write-up! BW feels very much alive again. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
October 12 2012 11:27 GMT
#28
OMG

Game 3 Icarus vs PusaN

Just OMG... beautiful game that was
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 11:40:55
October 12 2012 11:40 GMT
#29
Amazzzing, thanks guys, looking forward to the ro16.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 12 2012 12:16 GMT
#30
Wish Killer hadn't quit progaming. He has so much potential. Awesome writeup and thanks for keeping the tradition alive guys. I'll be sure to tune in whenever the ex progamers play.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
October 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#31
This is an awesome preview. Thanks so much--makes it much easier to get into the games.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 12 2012 12:32 GMT
#32
On October 12 2012 21:16 red4ce wrote:
Wish Killer hadn't quit progaming. He has so much potential. Awesome writeup and thanks for keeping the tradition alive guys. I'll be sure to tune in whenever the ex progamers play.

could say the same for many of the ex-OZ players. They didn't necessarily quit because they didn't have the chops, but rather they just couldn't get into another team after the disbandment .. a real shame. But all of these guys in the Ro16, are pretty amazing lol
Writerptrk
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
October 12 2012 13:49 GMT
#33
wow nice job!
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
October 12 2012 13:54 GMT
#34
lets wait for the kespa guys who are not interested in sc2 an bw will live on
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
saroir
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany244 Posts
October 12 2012 15:16 GMT
#35
gogo broodwar, show us your epicness
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
October 12 2012 18:42 GMT
#36
wow a most awesome article haha cant wait for group b i wanna see saber :D
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
October 12 2012 18:46 GMT
#37
Thanks for the great article about SSL guys.

Group A looks a little weaker than the other groups.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#38
On October 12 2012 21:32 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 21:16 red4ce wrote:
Wish Killer hadn't quit progaming. He has so much potential. Awesome writeup and thanks for keeping the tradition alive guys. I'll be sure to tune in whenever the ex progamers play.

could say the same for many of the ex-OZ players. They didn't necessarily quit because they didn't have the chops, but rather they just couldn't get into another team after the disbandment .. a real shame. But all of these guys in the Ro16, are pretty amazing lol


Yes the reason I singled out Killer is because he is only 20 years old and his career trajectory was still on the upswing up until Oz's disbandment.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 12 2012 19:51 GMT
#39
Stunning!!! This and the BJgirls made my day Amazing job everyone and I'm super hyped for tomorrow, thanks!
En Taro Violet
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
October 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#40
thanks for the ssl coverage ^____^
ace hwaiting!!
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#41
I love this. I saw amateur tourney and just passed it up being all pffaww.
~_~ I lawb dis. I lawb you. I lawb lawb
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 12 2012 21:00 GMT
#42
Amazing write-up!
Keep up the great work guys.
Rlentless
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong322 Posts
October 13 2012 00:41 GMT
#43
Woah there are interviews too ^^ hopefully those get translated haha.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 13 2012 01:10 GMT
#44
Group A VODs are up, 4:3 aspect ratio format. Enjoy~


Ro16 GROUP A+ Show Spoiler +
Pusan vs Icarus+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Larva vs Soma+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Winners Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Losers Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Final Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +
NOOOOOOOOOOPE


Playlist


Most definitely recommend Pusan vs Icarus and Final Match. A-fuckin-mazing games.
Writerptrk
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
October 13 2012 01:40 GMT
#45
Thanks for putting in the work to put this up. Really appreciate it.
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 02:29:15
October 13 2012 04:00 GMT
#46
I tried my best to translate. It’s a pretty rough translation though.

+ Show Spoiler [Group A Winners Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Hi Larva! You made it to ro8. How do you feel?
Larva: At first I was kind of disappointed my first match was a ZvZ but I feel great having made it into ro8!

Interviewer: You came dressed very formally. It looks good on you!
Larva: TEEEEEHEEEEE

Interviewer: There was a look of disappointment on your face because of the regame. What are your thoughts on that?
Larva: When the decision for the re-game was issued… I was about to just get up and go home. Then, I saw Sonic’s face and decided I would continue playing. I ended up advancing!

Interviewer: And as a result you ended up winning. On the game where you went for a zergling rush and failed what was going through your mind?
Larva: Well, I was actually in the mindset to just give up a game and set the score even to 1-1.

Interviewer: Well you’re in the ro8. Are there any players you wish to avoid or those who you’d definitely like to play against?
Larva: Well I definitely want to avoid Hiya and I would actually like a game with Mong.

Interviewer: Hahaha Mong is actually in the audience right now. He probably heard you. So, you’re in the ro8 now, how far do you want to get?
Larva: First off I’d like to at least get to 3rd place for the prize money so that I can save some and invest some (back into the league?).

Interviewer: This is your first time visiting our SinbalFarm (신발팜) office, what are your thoughts on how we’ve set up?
Larva: I came here at 4pm when you guys were still getting ready. I think you guys have really worked hard and put a lot of effort into setting up so I can’t say anything bad. I’d like to really thank the staff members. Thank You!

Interviewer: Thank you for this brief moment for our interview. I look forward to seeing you in the ro8!
*TIGER JK PLAYS* (good song choice Larva )


+ Show Spoiler [Group A Finals Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Congratulations on making it to ro8!
Sonic: Put the mic volume up slightly please.
Pusan: I tried my hardest and advanced so I’m very glad. I’ll give it my all in the ro8 too.

Interviewer: You’ve made it into the ro8 by winning the final match. You must be very tired.
Pusan: I want to go home soon and sleep.

Interviewer: Still you won so you must feel good! A lot of different Afreeca Starcraft BJ’s are watching in the audience, who would you like to face in the ro8?
Pusan: My best matchup is against Terran so I would definitely like to meet a Terran player in the ro8. In the ro8, the games are going to be 1v1 so I feel more confident in winning hahahahaha.

Interviewer: (Interviewer stutters a bit and laughs) Sorry, I’m a bit nervous right now (probably because of Pusan incredible aura of MANLINESS), this is the first time having an offline starleague here at the SinbalFarm office. What did you think of it?
Pusan: Well… It was refreshing(?) you know as a BJ, but I felt a bit lacking in stamina since I’m quite old. The other BJ’s are in their late teens/early 20s but I’m almost 30 haha.

Interviewer: You look incredibly young for your age! You’re very good looking.
Pusan: Thank You~

Interviewer: We hope to see a lot more exciting games from you in the ro8. Thank you for coming! Congratulation!

Rlentless
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong322 Posts
October 13 2012 04:16 GMT
#47
haha thanks man!
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 04:46:36
October 13 2012 04:27 GMT
#48
good interviews, lookin good with the pictures

BTW guys I noticed that Youtube limits my VOD quality to 360p, even though the source is at least 720p. Any workarounds for that? I would be able to have the VODs in at least 480p ...
Writerptrk
brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
October 13 2012 04:51 GMT
#49
thx for the work. that sky game is sick
Uglymutt
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia57 Posts
October 13 2012 06:31 GMT
#50
Thanks for the youtube VODs, I'll have to watch them when I have a bit more free time.
The write-up is amazing, I haven't been following the SSL too closely but I've enjoyed what I've seen, the write-ups make it so easy to catch up on everything.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 13 2012 06:42 GMT
#51
Thanks for the write-up

Go Ex-Hwaseung!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
October 13 2012 09:16 GMT
#52
wow, brood war games that i actually wanna watch o_O

great write up, watching the recommended vods now
POGGERS
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9492 Posts
October 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#53
On October 13 2012 13:27 ArvickHero wrote:
good interviews, lookin good with the pictures

BTW guys I noticed that Youtube limits my VOD quality to 360p, even though the source is at least 720p. Any workarounds for that? I would be able to have the VODs in at least 480p ...

I think it depends on the resolution of your uploaded videos. What is resolution of your source video?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 13 2012 11:29 GMT
#54
On October 13 2012 20:26 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 13:27 ArvickHero wrote:
good interviews, lookin good with the pictures

BTW guys I noticed that Youtube limits my VOD quality to 360p, even though the source is at least 720p. Any workarounds for that? I would be able to have the VODs in at least 480p ...

I think it depends on the resolution of your uploaded videos. What is resolution of your source video?

http://www.twitch.tv/whereismy/b/335355803

soemthing like that ... I've been using the twitch to youtube upload feature lol
Writerptrk
dings
Profile Joined December 2010
10 Posts
October 13 2012 11:55 GMT
#55
Thank you. (-:
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 13 2012 12:27 GMT
#56
On October 13 2012 13:00 JohnChoi wrote:
I tried my best to translate. It’s a pretty rough translation though.

+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Hi Larva! You made it to ro8. How do you feel?
Larva: At first I was kind of disappointed my first match was a ZvZ but I feel great having made it into ro8!

Interviewer: You came dressed very formally. It looks good on you!
Larva: TEEEEEHEEEEE

Interviewer: There was a look of disappointment on your face because of the regame. What are your thoughts on that?
Larva: When the decision for the re-game was issued… I was about to just get up and go home. Then, I saw Sonic’s face and decided I would continue playing. I ended up advancing!

Interviewer: And as a result you ended up winning. On the game where you went for a zergling rush and failed what was going through your mind?
Larva: Well, I was actually in the mindset to just give up a game and set the score even to 1-1.
Interviewer: Well you’re in the ro8. Are there any players you wish to avoid or those who you’d definitely like to play against?

Larva: Well I definitely want to avoid Hiya and I would actually like a game with Mong.
Interviewer: Hahaha Mong is actually in the audience right now. He probably heard you. So, you’re in the ro8 now, how far do you want to get?
Larva: First off I’d like to at least get to 3rd place for the prize money so that I can save some and invest some (back into the league?).

Interviewer: This is your first time visiting our SinbalFarm (신발팜) office, what are your thoughts on how we’ve set up?
Larva: I came here at 4pm when you guys were still getting ready. I think you guys have really worked hard and put a lot of effort into setting up so I can’t say anything bad. I’d like to really thank the staff members. Thank You!
Interviewer: Thank you for this brief moment for our interview. I look forward to seeing you in the ro8!
*TIGER JK PLAYS* (good song choice Larva )


+ Show Spoiler [Finals Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Congratulations on making it to ro8!
Sonic: Put the mic volume up slightly please.
Pusan: I tried my hardest and advanced so I’m very glad. I’ll give it my all in the ro8 too.

Interviewer: You’ve made it into the ro8 by winning the final match. You must be very tired.
Pusan: I want to go home soon and sleep.

Interviewer: Still you won so you must feel good! A lot of different Afreeca Starcraft BJ’s are watching in the audience, who would you like to face in the ro8?
Pusan: My best matchup is against Terran so I would definitely like to meet a Terran player in the ro8. In the ro8, the games are going to be 1v1 so I feel more confident in winning hahahahaha.

Interviewer: (Interviewer stutters a bit and laughs) Sorry, I’m a bit nervous right now (probably because of Pusan incredible aura of MANLINESS), this is the first time having an offline starleague here at the SinbalFarm office. What did you think of it?
Pusan: Well… It was refreshing(?) you know as a BJ, but I felt a bit lacking in stamina since I’m quite old. The other BJ’s are in their late teens/early 20s but I’m almost 30 haha.

Interviewer: You look incredibly young for your age! You’re very good looking.
Pusan: Thank You~
Interviewer: We hope to see a lot more exciting games from you in the ro8. Thank you for coming! Congratulation!


yup awesome! thanks a lot
En Taro Violet
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9492 Posts
October 13 2012 12:51 GMT
#57
On October 13 2012 20:29 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 20:26 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On October 13 2012 13:27 ArvickHero wrote:
good interviews, lookin good with the pictures

BTW guys I noticed that Youtube limits my VOD quality to 360p, even though the source is at least 720p. Any workarounds for that? I would be able to have the VODs in at least 480p ...

I think it depends on the resolution of your uploaded videos. What is resolution of your source video?

http://www.twitch.tv/whereismy/b/335355803

soemthing like that ... I've been using the twitch to youtube upload feature lol

That's the problem. The source video needs to be at least 480 pixels in height for youtube to show an option to choose 480p. It's same with 720p. I don't know how much it increases quality though. You can artificially increase the resolution of your videos to 720 or even 1080 and youtube will show those options, but it won't be any better quality.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 13 2012 13:04 GMT
#58
On October 13 2012 21:51 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 20:29 ArvickHero wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:26 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On October 13 2012 13:27 ArvickHero wrote:
good interviews, lookin good with the pictures

BTW guys I noticed that Youtube limits my VOD quality to 360p, even though the source is at least 720p. Any workarounds for that? I would be able to have the VODs in at least 480p ...

I think it depends on the resolution of your uploaded videos. What is resolution of your source video?

http://www.twitch.tv/whereismy/b/335355803

soemthing like that ... I've been using the twitch to youtube upload feature lol

That's the problem. The source video needs to be at least 480 pixels in height for youtube to show an option to choose 480p. It's same with 720p. I don't know how much it increases quality though. You can artificially increase the resolution of your videos to 720 or even 1080 and youtube will show those options, but it won't be any better quality.

hmmm what a pain =_= such a shame that Youtube does that lol .. maybe I'll see if artificially increasing to 480 is feasible ;p
Writerptrk
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 02:25:39
October 14 2012 02:25 GMT
#59
+ Show Spoiler [Group B Winners Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Hello Perfectman. You’ve made it into the ro8. How do you feel?
Perfectman: It was a long ways to get here (to Seoul) but luckily I won so I feel great.

Interviewer: From what I saw, you seemed very calm and confident in your play. Were there any parts in the game where you felt in danger of losing? Any parts where you were sure of victory?
Perfectman: I thought the scout had missed the (Citadel of) Adun, but the SCV had scouted it. Luckily, I was able to gain the advantage and won.

Interviewer: So you’ve made it into the ro8, Are there any players you wish to avoid or those who you would like to play against?
Perfectman: I think everyone besides Killer I would like a game with.

Interviewer: What are your goals for this Starleague?
Perfectman: Of course I want to get 1st place. I want to win the prize money.

Interviewer: Seeing you in person, I think you’re really good looking (She’s said this in all the interview except Larva’s), real cute and well mannered! This is your first time here at the SinbalFarm office. What do you about what we’ve done so far?
Perfectman: I’ve seen Sonic’s stream quite a bit on Afreeca and I really didn’t think much of Sonic. I didn’t know he was such a successful CEO. He turned out to be a lot more awesome than I had originally thought.

Interviewer: Thank you so much for this interview. Congratulations on making it to the ro8!


+ Show Spoiler [Group B Final Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Congratulations on making it to ro8, Mong! You’ve advanced but the viewers and I can’t help but notice your level of play today wasn’t as good as it usually is. Is your condition not so good today?
Mong: My condition is fine. It’s just that one and a half years has passed since I’ve had a public game with a viewing audience. I was a bit nervous and my play felt a bit shaky.

Interviewer: You were here at our SInbalFarm office very late last night and you seemed very tired. We were worried but you still advanced to the ro8!
Mong: Lately, every tournament I’ve been struggling to go up the bracket but still today I advanced so I think I can go home happy.

Interviewer: Seeing you in person (as opposed to online on his afreeca stream), you are much better looking in person! Truthfully, between you and Sonic who do you think is better looking?
Mong: (Mong got a little bit pissed off here ) Sonic told me it’s not the cam that makes people think he’s better looking (than I am) so I really looked forward to coming to offline so people could compare. Truthfully, Sonic is VERY UGLY. I’m not even kidding right now, yesterday (at the offline) I asked Sonic if we could compare our faces side by side so the viewers could decide who is better looking. Sonic ended his stream very quickly. I wish you guys would stop comparing our faces…
[image loading]

Interviewer: Haha I understand. Mong you didn’t do any kind of ceremony after your victory. Could you maybe show us that famous Tektonik dance of yours?
Mong:


Interviewer: Congratulations on making it to ro8! We look forward to seeing many more awesome games from you!

ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 14 2012 02:38 GMT
#60
Awesome work on the interviews, final match interview is especially funny :D
Writerptrk
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
October 14 2012 02:38 GMT
#61
LOL that dance was great
Poor Larva D: should have kept his mullet. Thanks for the interviews.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
October 14 2012 02:45 GMT
#62
Oh man that dance lol someone needs to make it into a gif
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 14 2012 08:18 GMT
#63
On October 14 2012 11:25 JohnChoi wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Group B Winners Match Interview] +

[image loading]
Interviewer: Hello Perfectman. You’ve made it into the ro8. How do you feel?
Perfectman: It was a long ways to get here (to Seoul) but luckily I won so I feel great.

Interviewer: From what I saw, you seemed very calm and confident in your play. Were there any parts in the game where you felt in danger of losing? Any parts where you were sure of victory?
Perfectman: I thought the scout had missed the (Citadel of) Adun, but the SCV had scouted it. Luckily, I was able to gain the advantage and won.

Interviewer: So you’ve made it into the ro8, Are there any players you wish to avoid or those who you would like to play against?
Perfectman: I think everyone besides Killer I would like a game with.

Interviewer: What are your goals for this Starleague?
Perfectman: Of course I want to get 1st place. I want to win the prize money.

Interviewer: Seeing you in person, I think you’re really good looking (She’s said this in all the interview except Larva’s), real cute and well mannered! This is your first time here at the SinbalFarm office. What do you about what we’ve done so far?
Perfectman: I’ve seen Sonic’s stream quite a bit on Afreeca and I really didn’t think much of Sonic. I didn’t know he was such a successful CEO. He turned out to be a lot more awesome than I had originally thought.

Interviewer: Thank you so much for this interview. Congratulations on making it to the ro8!


+ Show Spoiler [Group B Final Match Interview] +

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Interviewer: Congratulations on making it to ro8, Mong! You’ve advanced but the viewers and I can’t help but notice your level of play today wasn’t as good as it usually is. Is your condition not so good today?
Mong: My condition is fine. It’s just that one and a half years has passed since I’ve had a public game with a viewing audience. I was a bit nervous and my play felt a bit shaky.

Interviewer: You were here at our SInbalFarm office very late last night and you seemed very tired. We were worried but you still advanced to the ro8!
Mong: Lately, every tournament I’ve been struggling to go up the bracket but still today I advanced so I think I can go home happy.

Interviewer: Seeing you in person (as opposed to online on his afreeca stream), you are much better looking in person! Truthfully, between you and Sonic who do you think is better looking?
Mong: (Mong got a little bit pissed off here ) Sonic told me it’s not the cam that makes people think he’s better looking (than I am) so I really looked forward to coming to offline so people could compare. Truthfully, Sonic is VERY UGLY. I’m not even kidding right now, yesterday (at the offline) I asked Sonic if we could compare our faces side by side so the viewers could decide who is better looking. Sonic ended his stream very quickly. I wish you guys would stop comparing our faces…
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Interviewer: Haha I understand. Mong you didn’t do any kind of ceremony after your victory. Could you maybe show us that famous Tektonik dance of yours?
Mong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvCFOACdxcA

Interviewer: Congratulations on making it to ro8! We look forward to seeing many more awesome games from you!



DAT TEKTONIK !!! xD

but nothing compares to -
xDD
T H C makes ppl happy
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
October 14 2012 09:13 GMT
#64
thanks for the translations
ace hwaiting!!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9492 Posts
October 14 2012 09:52 GMT
#65
thx for translating the interviews. You could also make a new thread for them so more people see them hopefully ^^
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Leguar
Profile Joined October 2012
Russian Federation9 Posts
October 14 2012 16:18 GMT
#66
killer > all
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 14 2012 16:21 GMT
#67
Nice writeup !! Thank you so much
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 14 2012 16:31 GMT
#68
SOSPA ro16 so far has been so great. So many nail biting games. StarCraft feels so alive Makes me wanna play, makes me wanna think about the game... These guys are really good. It's neither the proleague of old now the last pitiful hybrid league. It is something of its own where passion drives the players and the styles are very inspiring.

Larva is really interesting to me. Definitely a big fan of him.

Anyone who isn't watching this league is really missing out.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
October 14 2012 20:57 GMT
#69
great writeup! good to see bw alive. would be crazy if all the other bw players cameback
Long live BroodWar!
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
October 14 2012 23:13 GMT
#70
On October 14 2012 18:52 2Pacalypse- wrote:
thx for translating the interviews. You could also make a new thread for them so more people see them hopefully ^^

Ok! I'll be sure to make a new thread for group C onwards.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 15 2012 03:51 GMT
#71
Sorry, everything is getting delayed to hell @_@ Group B VODs will most definitely be up tomorrow.
Writerptrk
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 15 2012 05:41 GMT
#72
Alright some news updates:

Everyone involved in SSL is getting sick lmao .. Sonic's employees were going home at like 2 or 3am, when they were already there all day. They've worked REALLY hard for this, so I ask you guys to really help spread the word about this to help repay their intense efforts.

Everyone says that one group in one day is way too much, to which I agree. Right now, it's very likely that they'll split Group D into two days, and push the rest back a bit. Official decision about it will probably come out within a few days, but imo this is very likely, and a different calender will probably be in order.

And, Sonic says he's considering/looking to rent out a venue for the Offline Ro8 onwards. We'll see whether or not that goes through, but pretty exciting stuff!!!
Writerptrk
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
October 15 2012 05:45 GMT
#73
On October 15 2012 14:41 ArvickHero wrote:
Alright some news updates:

Everyone involved in SSL is getting sick lmao .. Sonic's employees were going home at like 2 or 3am, when they were already there all day. They've worked REALLY hard for this, so I ask you guys to really help spread the word about this to help repay their intense efforts.

Everyone says that one group in one day is way too much, to which I agree. Right now, it's very likely that they'll split Group D into two days, and push the rest back a bit. Official decision about it will probably come out within a few days, but imo this is very likely, and a different calender will probably be in order.

And, Sonic says he's considering/looking to rent out a venue for the Offline Ro8 onwards. We'll see whether or not that goes through, but pretty exciting stuff!!!

Sounds good. Hope he gets a venue
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
October 15 2012 07:46 GMT
#74
HAHA TERROR HE ALMOST LOST THAT GAME LOLOL
Translator
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19224 Posts
October 15 2012 12:56 GMT
#75
I predict lots of ex-OZ players in the Ro8. It will be interesting to see who gets upset though.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 03:22:25
October 16 2012 02:48 GMT
#76
Ro16 GROUP B+ Show Spoiler +
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Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

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Shinee vs Saber+ Show Spoiler +
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agfdfjlkdfsghgfg


Winners Match+ Show Spoiler +
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Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +
SARGE .. I LOVE YOU


Losers Match+ Show Spoiler +
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Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Final Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Playlist


It's finally up!! Sorry it took so long lol. Group C should be up tomorrow, or Wednesday at the very latest

New calender: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


So everything is getting pushed back lol. Important thing to note, Group D is on SATURDAY now, not Friday.
Writerptrk
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10113 Posts
October 16 2012 23:50 GMT
#77
Wait wait wait, is the StarCue mentioned the same one who wore his headphones backwards vs Tossgirl?!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
October 16 2012 23:59 GMT
#78
On October 17 2012 08:50 Jealous wrote:
Wait wait wait, is the StarCue mentioned the same one who wore his headphones backwards vs Tossgirl?!

Yes sir. the one and only headsetzerg
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10113 Posts
October 17 2012 00:00 GMT
#79
On October 17 2012 08:59 JohnChoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 08:50 Jealous wrote:
Wait wait wait, is the StarCue mentioned the same one who wore his headphones backwards vs Tossgirl?!

Yes sir. the one and only headsetzerg

LOL shiiiiiit if that happened to me I would quit BW for life man ahahhaha
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 20:06:05
October 17 2012 20:01 GMT
#80
Apologies for the delays everyone, but VODs! Now in lovely 480p quality heheh, anyone know how to set it to default? seems like I have to change it manually every time I watch

oh wait I guess you can't do the 480p unless you go straight to the page?

Ro16 GROUP C+ Show Spoiler +
Killer vs Hiya+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Hint vs KangTaeWan+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +
MY LIFE FOR AIUR


Winners Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Losers Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Final Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +
KangTaeWan NOO!!!!!!!!!!


Playlist
Writerptrk
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 18 2012 00:54 GMT
#81
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
October 18 2012 01:04 GMT
#82
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10113 Posts
October 18 2012 12:44 GMT
#83
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
October 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#84
Holy shit look at the players in this! I had no idea this league existed!

Mad writeup, super psyched to watch these!
Sucker for nostalgia
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
October 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#85
On October 18 2012 21:44 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?


By that logic there wouldn't be any DOTA2 news posts either.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10113 Posts
October 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#86
On October 19 2012 06:31 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 21:44 Jealous wrote:
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?


By that logic there wouldn't be any DOTA2 news posts either.

That is true but DotA2 is 'popular' and 'alive' whereas BW is 'dead'.

That's the last thing I could come up with.

I remember TL did a poll on what people come to TL for, BW had like 10% or something.

NO USE CLOGGING UP THIS VALUABLE FRONT PAGE SPACE THAT OUR SPONSORS SEE WITH 15 YEAR OLD GAMES, SHIEETTT.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 18 2012 22:18 GMT
#87
On October 19 2012 07:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 06:31 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:44 Jealous wrote:
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?


By that logic there wouldn't be any DOTA2 news posts either.

That is true but DotA2 is 'popular' and 'alive' whereas BW is 'dead'.

That's the last thing I could come up with.

I remember TL did a poll on what people come to TL for, BW had like 10% or something.

NO USE CLOGGING UP THIS VALUABLE FRONT PAGE SPACE THAT OUR SPONSORS SEE WITH 15 YEAR OLD GAMES, SHIEETTT.


Pretty much TL have martyred BW out of its existence.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
October 18 2012 22:19 GMT
#88
One of the best news post I have seen on TL, really. Thanks guys, you're awesome.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10113 Posts
October 18 2012 22:24 GMT
#89
On October 19 2012 07:18 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 07:16 Jealous wrote:
On October 19 2012 06:31 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:44 Jealous wrote:
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?


By that logic there wouldn't be any DOTA2 news posts either.

That is true but DotA2 is 'popular' and 'alive' whereas BW is 'dead'.

That's the last thing I could come up with.

I remember TL did a poll on what people come to TL for, BW had like 10% or something.

NO USE CLOGGING UP THIS VALUABLE FRONT PAGE SPACE THAT OUR SPONSORS SEE WITH 15 YEAR OLD GAMES, SHIEETTT.


Pretty much TL have martyred BW out of its existence.

Explain?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 18 2012 22:27 GMT
#90
On October 19 2012 07:24 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 07:18 Xiphos wrote:
On October 19 2012 07:16 Jealous wrote:
On October 19 2012 06:31 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:44 Jealous wrote:
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?


By that logic there wouldn't be any DOTA2 news posts either.

That is true but DotA2 is 'popular' and 'alive' whereas BW is 'dead'.

That's the last thing I could come up with.

I remember TL did a poll on what people come to TL for, BW had like 10% or something.

NO USE CLOGGING UP THIS VALUABLE FRONT PAGE SPACE THAT OUR SPONSORS SEE WITH 15 YEAR OLD GAMES, SHIEETTT.


Pretty much TL have martyred BW out of its existence.

Explain?


Its crystal clear.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10113 Posts
October 18 2012 22:38 GMT
#91
On October 19 2012 07:27 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 07:24 Jealous wrote:
On October 19 2012 07:18 Xiphos wrote:
On October 19 2012 07:16 Jealous wrote:
On October 19 2012 06:31 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:44 Jealous wrote:
On October 18 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:54 Xiphos wrote:
Now the big question is how didn't this thread make it to TL's front page or even spotlighted. So disappoint at the mod.


Seriously, compared to some of the other stuff on the front page, this is much higher quality.

We're on a website called "Team Liquid."

Team Liquid plays SC2.

Do I need to say more?


By that logic there wouldn't be any DOTA2 news posts either.

That is true but DotA2 is 'popular' and 'alive' whereas BW is 'dead'.

That's the last thing I could come up with.

I remember TL did a poll on what people come to TL for, BW had like 10% or something.

NO USE CLOGGING UP THIS VALUABLE FRONT PAGE SPACE THAT OUR SPONSORS SEE WITH 15 YEAR OLD GAMES, SHIEETTT.


Pretty much TL have martyred BW out of its existence.

Explain?


Its crystal clear.

I'm drunk and English not my first language ):
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9492 Posts
October 18 2012 23:17 GMT
#92
Please guys, don't wonder too much off the topic. Instead of whining and complaining, enjoy what we have
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 23:49:06
October 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#93
Don't see us becoming much had there not been TL.
Regards to SSL, I really hope I manage to reschedule or something b/c I haven't been able to catch most of the matches live recently T_T
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2001 Posts
October 19 2012 20:59 GMT
#94
13 hours until we can see Sky's weird PvT! It's going to be great.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 21 2012 00:29 GMT
#95
Does anyone know of a video recording software that's less CPU intensive than xSplit, but can still capture at a good resolution/quality? Seems like for me my computer has trouble handling xSplit at some times, and it's beginning to affect the recorded VODs where there's hiccups and skips at some point/s of the VOD.
Writerptrk
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
October 21 2012 02:01 GMT
#96
On October 19 2012 08:17 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Please guys, don't wonder too much off the topic. Instead of whining and complaining, enjoy what we have


How can we enjoy it if we don't know about it?
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 21 2012 03:09 GMT
#97
On October 21 2012 11:01 flashimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 08:17 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Please guys, don't wonder too much off the topic. Instead of whining and complaining, enjoy what we have


How can we enjoy it if we don't know about it?


Than one must know about it and enlighten himself
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 22 2012 02:31 GMT
#98
^Please share the enlightenment with others then, so that they may know about it ^^

VODs are up! Game 2 of the Final Match is FUCKING EPICCCCC

Ro16 GROUP D+ Show Spoiler +
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Losers Match+ Show Spoiler +
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Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Final Match+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2:+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3:+ Show Spoiler +


Playlist


For those of you who watched it live, you might have noticed there was a photo highlight video. I have managed to record it and it's up on youtube too + Show Spoiler +



Sonic has promised a variety of events this week, though SoPL was not explicitly named .. we'll see lol. SSL Ro8 next week!!

Ro8 Matchups
[Z]Larva vs [P]Perfectman

[P]Pusan vs [Z]Cola

[T]Mong vs [Z]Killer

[T]Hiya vs [P]Sky

Maps: Neo Jade, Neo Electric Circuit, New Sniper Ridge, Wind and Cloud, Fighting Spirit

Can't wait for the next weekend Thank you to everyone who has been helping so far, and to all those of you who watch and enjoy this league!
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