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Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
September 15 2012 14:38 GMT
#101
yeah!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
September 15 2012 14:38 GMT
#102
On September 15 2012 23:30 FlaShFTW wrote:
... All this sAviOr talk makes me sick... As much of a Ma Jae Yoon fanboy I am, I agree with the others who say that he doesn't deserve to be on this list. Guys cmon, he cheated. He did something bad, and something that probably killed Starcraft Brood War. At least, the cheating scandal did impact the Brood War scene quite a bit.

And for those who say he should be there, I'd love to see him up there as well, but fact is, he doesn't deserve to be up there. Let's say that someone like Tim Duncan, or Kobe Bryant, or any big superstar was caught CHEATING or using STEROIDS or something. Do they deserve to be up on that list for NBA HoF. Hell no. You know the old saying... Cheaters never prosper? Well, there's one thing that they'll never prosper in, getting into the HoF.

So stop bitching about sAviOr not in. Maybe he shouldn't have cheated. Ever thought of that?


how did he cheat?
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 14:43:51
September 15 2012 14:42 GMT
#103
YES Guillaume!

Missing Iris and Midas tho :'(
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
September 15 2012 15:10 GMT
#104
list looks great nothing to argue
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
September 15 2012 15:24 GMT
#105
Savior = Pete Rose

Neither will be in a HoF.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 15:40:19
September 15 2012 15:37 GMT
#106
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...


I have to echo this poster's thoughts.

Sad to see people who can't distinguish between the player and the person. ;_; Then again maybe I'm the odd one out here since the only thing that matters to me is skill :s

On September 15 2012 23:30 FlaShFTW wrote:
... All this sAviOr talk makes me sick... As much of a Ma Jae Yoon fanboy I am, I agree with the others who say that he doesn't deserve to be on this list. Guys cmon, he cheated. He did something bad, and something that probably killed Starcraft Brood War. At least, the cheating scandal did impact the Brood War scene quite a bit.

And for those who say he should be there, I'd love to see him up there as well, but fact is, he doesn't deserve to be up there. Let's say that someone like Tim Duncan, or Kobe Bryant, or any big superstar was caught CHEATING or using STEROIDS or something. Do they deserve to be up on that list for NBA HoF. Hell no. You know the old saying... Cheaters never prosper? Well, there's one thing that they'll never prosper in, getting into the HoF.

So stop bitching about sAviOr not in. Maybe he shouldn't have cheated. Ever thought of that?


sAviOr did not cheat... he lost matches for money after hitting his peak. (iloveoov said in one of his interviews it could be due to the fact that sAviOr had gotten really bored in that period of time) Every single one of his wins was legitimate, because he was that motherfucking good, which is why he deserves to be here more than half of the people on the list. ~_~
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
September 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#107
sAviOr should be here, i dont care about matchfixing, he should be on this list!
Jaedong fucking beast
MaTaAeRuKaNa
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States95 Posts
September 15 2012 15:58 GMT
#108
sAviOr is a hall of famer in my heart.
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slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 16:00:23
September 15 2012 15:59 GMT
#109
I'm guessing SaviOr didn't make it because he's a dick? Still, if the poll is for hall of famers controversy has to be put aside. He really should be in here.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
September 15 2012 16:04 GMT
#110
this isn't a savior thread
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 15 2012 16:09 GMT
#111
On September 16 2012 01:04 Harem wrote:
this isn't a savior thread


Honestly we're merely talking about the integrity of the list in a civilised manner that doesn't bash any of the players. :s
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#112
On September 16 2012 00:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...


I have to echo this poster's thoughts.

Sad to see people who can't distinguish between the player and the person. ;_; Then again maybe I'm the odd one out here since the only thing that matters to me is skill :s

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 23:30 FlaShFTW wrote:
... All this sAviOr talk makes me sick... As much of a Ma Jae Yoon fanboy I am, I agree with the others who say that he doesn't deserve to be on this list. Guys cmon, he cheated. He did something bad, and something that probably killed Starcraft Brood War. At least, the cheating scandal did impact the Brood War scene quite a bit.

And for those who say he should be there, I'd love to see him up there as well, but fact is, he doesn't deserve to be up there. Let's say that someone like Tim Duncan, or Kobe Bryant, or any big superstar was caught CHEATING or using STEROIDS or something. Do they deserve to be up on that list for NBA HoF. Hell no. You know the old saying... Cheaters never prosper? Well, there's one thing that they'll never prosper in, getting into the HoF.

So stop bitching about sAviOr not in. Maybe he shouldn't have cheated. Ever thought of that?


sAviOr did not cheat... he lost matches for money after hitting his peak. (iloveoov said in one of his interviews it could be due to the fact that sAviOr had gotten really bored in that period of time) Every single one of his wins was legitimate, because he was that motherfucking good, which is why he deserves to be here more than half of the people on the list. ~_~


I think you and others would reconsider this position if you talked to every player enshrined and every person who has worked years and years to bring BW and e-sports to the level it is at right now.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 17:53:05
September 15 2012 17:52 GMT
#113
On September 16 2012 02:21 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 00:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...


I have to echo this poster's thoughts.

Sad to see people who can't distinguish between the player and the person. ;_; Then again maybe I'm the odd one out here since the only thing that matters to me is skill :s

On September 15 2012 23:30 FlaShFTW wrote:
... All this sAviOr talk makes me sick... As much of a Ma Jae Yoon fanboy I am, I agree with the others who say that he doesn't deserve to be on this list. Guys cmon, he cheated. He did something bad, and something that probably killed Starcraft Brood War. At least, the cheating scandal did impact the Brood War scene quite a bit.

And for those who say he should be there, I'd love to see him up there as well, but fact is, he doesn't deserve to be up there. Let's say that someone like Tim Duncan, or Kobe Bryant, or any big superstar was caught CHEATING or using STEROIDS or something. Do they deserve to be up on that list for NBA HoF. Hell no. You know the old saying... Cheaters never prosper? Well, there's one thing that they'll never prosper in, getting into the HoF.

So stop bitching about sAviOr not in. Maybe he shouldn't have cheated. Ever thought of that?


sAviOr did not cheat... he lost matches for money after hitting his peak. (iloveoov said in one of his interviews it could be due to the fact that sAviOr had gotten really bored in that period of time) Every single one of his wins was legitimate, because he was that motherfucking good, which is why he deserves to be here more than half of the people on the list. ~_~


I think you and others would reconsider this position if you talked to every player enshrined and every person who has worked years and years to bring BW and e-sports to the level it is at right now.

exactly my thoughts. you have to think about the work that the players made, people like boxer and yellow, nada, iloveoov, the players that got bw to where it is today. savior basically killed like 3/4 of that earn in one situation. sponsors pulling out can also be contributed to the scandal which in-turn makes the impact even bigger. the only real things that helped the fall of bw was kpop (RIP MSL ) and sc2.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#114
On September 15 2012 21:08 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 16:17 Mindcrime wrote:
On September 15 2012 15:37 iSCOUT4u wrote:
I don't really agree with Kingdom or Grrr. As someone already said if Grrr wasn't a foreinger nobody would remember him today. I would have included Midas.


Ddang?

If I had to pick a standard terran who never made it to an OSL or MSL final to include in the hall of fame, Midas wouldn't even be my first choice.

I don't see who would deserve it more than Midas or Iris...


TheMarine obviously
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
September 15 2012 18:21 GMT
#115
Cannot argue at all with that list.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 15 2012 18:38 GMT
#116
On September 16 2012 01:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 01:04 Harem wrote:
this isn't a savior thread


Honestly we're merely talking about the integrity of the list in a civilised manner that doesn't bash any of the players. :s


Even suggesting that savior should be placed alongside these players is an insult to every single one of them. This is the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of "this guy won some starcraft games." To suggest that savior deserves this achievement is just dumb.
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:52:10
September 15 2012 18:48 GMT
#117
Happy to see Kingdom being voted in. In my opinion he deserves it, OSL gold, MSL silver, crucial to T1's early Proleague success with a bunch of important wins in finals.
The fact that he also made top4 in Hanbitsoft OSL and top4 in Pringles-1 MSL, 5 years in-between, is hella impressive.
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andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:58:01
September 15 2012 18:56 GMT
#118
On September 16 2012 03:38 xxpack09 wrote:
Even suggesting that savior should be placed alongside these players is an insult to every single one of them. This is the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of "this guy won some starcraft games." To suggest that savior deserves this achievement is just dumb.


Agree. Character matters. What if one of those players had committed a grave felony after their playing days such as rape or murder? You wouldn't want him in the hall of fame.

Other hall of fames routinely deny or rescind induction for character reasons and this hall of fame is no exception.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 19:15:16
September 15 2012 19:14 GMT
#119
Dono why people hate on Giyom. He was the best player for like a year, and he deserves to be there IMO. He helped pave the way for others.
Also, sAviOr definitely doesn't deserve to be there because it's largely him and the betting scandal which ended BW in Korea.
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Sadness
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Brazil552 Posts
September 15 2012 19:24 GMT
#120
On September 16 2012 03:09 Mindcrime wrote:
TheMarine obviously

Omg, I thought the list was perfect until I saw this post.
TheMarine definitely should be there.
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