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GTR
51444 Posts
SK Telecom T1 vs Winner of Playoff + Show Spoiler + Set 1: Neo Chain Reaction Set 2: Ground Zero Set 3: Jade Set 4: Sniper Ridge Set 5: Neo Outlier Set 6: Neo Electric Circuit Ace Match: Neo Chain Reaction (SK Telecom selected Neo Chain Reaction as the repeat map) Source: DailyESPORTS | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50119 Posts
predicting action vs fantasy for set 2. | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
Hoejja | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
CH vs Bisu Action vs Fantasy Wooki vs Sun Flash vs Best Stats vs s2 Hoejja vs alone/hyuk/soo | ||
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
 n.Die_soO « Neo Chain Reaction » Action Bisu « Ground Zero »  FlashFantasy « Jade » StatsSacsri « Sniper Ridge »HoeJJaBeSt « Neo Outlier » WookiBy.Sun « Neo Electric Circuit » Crazy-HydraBisu « Neo Chain Reaction » StatsThis is what I think the lineups will be. | ||
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On March 25 2012 23:14 Rodiel3 wrote: Bisu vs Flash ACE please ))Bisu vs. Reach ACE match with Reach winning. I don't even like KT but you can't deny that Reach is masculine enough to make it work. | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
GO GO SKT !!! | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
I wonder who from SKT trained for this map nearly for a month, i hope its Fantasy. xD But on the first set they will send Soo to hide their ace! Can't w8 for the finals! And I hope KT coaches will Flash for an ACE match, a super unexpected decision! And we will see the TvT of the century on Chain Reaction. The map will be divided in half, well it is already divided. There will tons of tanks and turrets and battlecruisers. Flash and Fantasy will turtle like they never turtled before. Nukes will be used to for defence! And it will end in an epic battle which will result in a draw! And the rematch ends the same, and again, until ... | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
HoeJJa<Neo Chain Reaction>BeStAction< Ground Zero>FantasyStats<Jade>n.Die_soOFlash< Sniper Ridge>BisuWooki <Neo Outlier>HyukCrazy-Hydra<Neo Electric Circuit> By.SunStats< Neo Chain Reaction>Bisu | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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4vvhiplash7
South Africa392 Posts
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tryummm
774 Posts
Nice spolier, now everyone knows it was 2-0. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Probably no Flash. | ||
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
On March 26 2012 00:19 4vvhiplash7 wrote: Why is neo chain reaction bad for T? Hmm, I think it's because carrier (and shuttle) distance is so short. The middle also has no high ground. I hope Flash has a cool build up his sleeve if it goes to ace! | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On March 26 2012 03:08 Kiett wrote: It's actually kind of interesting to see a reversal of the situation from last year. Previously, Coach Park would have wanted to set BeSt up against Flash in the hopes of sniping him (although I'll never be quite convinced that was a good idea), but now that BeSt has taken up the role of Bisu 2.0, avoiding Flash and taking out a zerg instead would be the ideal plan. I say just sacrifice Hyuk or Soo to Flash and try to match up Fantasy vs Stats and it should never go to ace. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On March 26 2012 03:08 Kiett wrote: It's actually kind of interesting to see a reversal of the situation from last year. Previously, Coach Park would have wanted to set BeSt up against Flash in the hopes of sniping him (although I'll never be quite convinced that was a good idea), but now that BeSt has taken up the role of Bisu 2.0, avoiding Flash and taking out a zerg instead would be the ideal plan. Honestly, I want to see Fantasy vs Flash. Although I think that will never happen. | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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dr.who
Dominican Republic145 Posts
Jaedong mode Activated | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Posting this thread this early confirms that the winner of the 2-3 match won it 2-0. Most of us know that KT won day 1 so... | ||
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zlosynus
Czech Republic339 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3374 Posts
On March 25 2012 22:58 reincremate wrote: Should send + Show Spoiler + Hoejja I see Fantasy in Ace over Bisu/Best, I think.. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
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Obelisco
Peru1962 Posts
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dr.who
Dominican Republic145 Posts
On March 26 2012 03:03 nbaker wrote: Hmm, I think it's because carrier (and shuttle) distance is so short. The middle also has no high ground. I hope Flash has a cool build up his sleeve if it goes to ace! could be a drop nightmare for toss too, like the game of flash vs best on Fortress VOD (don't know how to embed xD) i am not sure but Baby has decent stats in that map, look: Baby games | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Flash will be sent on Neo Chain Reaction.Because T1 will send a zerg. + Show Spoiler [It's gonna be] + Hyuk On March 26 2012 04:35 zlosynus wrote: Thanks for spoiling me results of Khan vs KT ... Was waiting for some schmuck to post this. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
So thats just too bad! | ||
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DanielD
United States192 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:21 shaftofpleasure wrote: Flash will be sent on Neo Chain Reaction.Because T1 will send a zerg. + Show Spoiler [It's gonna be] + Hyuk Was waiting for some schmuck to post this. If Hyuk beats Flash in this finals, it will instantly become my favorite out of the three. Currently, i see this one as the worst by a long shot. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:28 DanielD wrote: Why on earth would you go into a thread regarding the finals if you have not watched the semis yet? The issue is it pops up on the sidebar under the BW section. Which is why I access the small vod thread straight from google when I'm concerned about spoilers. | ||
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pgmcnerney
United States34 Posts
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:50 pgmcnerney wrote: Not a huge BW follower but do love proleague. Could someone explain why you would not put Flash as the ace player? Isn't he the undisputed best player? He is KT's ace but if he comes out every ace match then it makes him vulnerable to get sniped by other team | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:50 pgmcnerney wrote: Not a huge BW follower but do love proleague. Could someone explain why you would not put Flash as the ace player? Isn't he the undisputed best player? What ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ said, but also because the map is unfavorable, or that he is way too busy. See KT vs Khan day 1. And see the ONLY ace match last year where Stats played instead of Flash. It was vs Stork as well. | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
2636 Posts
On March 25 2012 22:54 bokchoi wrote: Neo Chain Reaction? That's an interesting choice. Not the map I was expecting? They want to limit Flash to 1 game. Still KT got this easy! | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10153 Posts
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
So there. Flash vs Fantasy ace match incoming. | ||
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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rslee
Canada226 Posts
The lack of an LR thread or any event on the right side bar is already spoiler enough... | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On March 26 2012 03:12 Condor Hero wrote: I say just sacrifice Hyuk or Soo to Flash and try to match up Fantasy vs Stats and it should never go to ace. Never count out Hyuk against Flash. He's one of those unpredictable players that lose only to himself. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On March 26 2012 11:23 Caladbolg wrote: In terms of map choice, I think SKT is daring KT to field a Zerg. They'll probably prepare Bisu or Fantasy for the ace. So it's all up to KT to choose between logic (Zerg, maybe Hoejja), counter-logic (Protoss, Stats), or stick to the TRUTH: that Flash is still far and away the best BW player to have ever existed and it would be a travesty not to put the team on his shoulders for the final game of this year's proleague when he's been carrying KT all his life. So there. Flash vs Fantasy ace match incoming. Even though KT zergs performance has been amazing so far, KT will not field a Z. Bisu is the best PvZer ever, and Fantasy vs Z during playoffs, and especially ace games, is super scary because he can always come with the sickest bulds (see Fantasy vs JD, Fantasy vs Effort etc). I see reaver play being quite strong on this map PvT, and Protoss can take expansions all around the map. If Flash is sent out, I think his build will be 1 rax FE into 1 fact 1 port, 1 wraith to prevent reaver harass, followed by a dropship (do not forget that the cliff at the natural is droppable, and the main mineral line can be hit by tanks dropped on the high ground behind). Fantasy has not played a single game on NCR/CR, I do not believe he will be sent, and while he's in super shape, he is still the underdog against Flash's TvT, and probably the underdog against Stats on a difficult map like this one. I am almost sure that the ace match will be Bisu vs Stats. If ace match there is ! | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
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Pasargadae
Korea (South)173 Posts
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rslee
Canada226 Posts
2 of the 3 potential Aces for SKT are NCR-ready and KT's main ace is not and he will either have to come up with something brilliant (which is possible) or they will have to said Stats. Sending Stats, in my opinion, would be the better answer in my opinion because SKT hasn't sent Fantasy on NCR yet and to be honest, as an SKT fan, I'm a litter nervous with a Bisu or Best vs a NRC-ready Stats, or a vs NCR-ready protoss in general -_-;; For SKT, get Bisu ready for a vP on NCR. Best could be sent but every team has a true ace and as much as I respect Best and Fantasy as reliable players, Bisu is their true Ace. And to the person who suggested Flash vs Bisu on sniper ridge......................................................................... That would be the worst.... | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
I wonder if this will be decided simply because SKT1 got to pick the ae match. The disadvantage is way way way way larger in a bo1 than a bo3 | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
On March 26 2012 14:25 Scarecrow wrote: Such a stupid system, the ace match should be arbitrary instead of one team picking such a terrible map. Then, what's the point of getting a higher place during the regular season? | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 26 2012 18:08 ne4aJIb wrote: Then, what's the point of getting a higher place during the regular season? You get to rest and prepare builds for 1 team only. They just made a large advantage huge | ||
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k.taeyang
Peru145 Posts
Stats<soo Flash>By. Sun Wooki<Fantasy Action<Bisu Hoejja>Best I don't know who for sixth map but I expect a mirror | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
I agree that the imbalance of PL regular season finish is way too high. Getting seeded directly into finals is insane, let alone getting seeded into finals and they get to pick 2 maps! I'm not just saying this because I'm a KT fan, KT benefitted from the seed into finals 2 years ago and I disagreed with it then. PL needs to do a more traditional playoff. They can keep the higher seed gets to pick ace match if they force all the teams to play the same number of games. That way there is no doubt that finishing well is rewarding, but at the same time doesn't give the 1st place team a ~55% chance to win the finals. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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S2Glow
Singapore1042 Posts
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dr.who
Dominican Republic145 Posts
Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction BisuAction Ground Zero FantasyStats Jade By.SunFlash Sniper Ridge BeSt HoeJJa Neo Outlier n.Die_soOMind Neo Electric Circuit Hyuk Flash Neo Chain Reaction Fantasy | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On March 27 2012 01:52 quien wrote: Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction BisuAction Ground Zero FantasyStats Jade By.SunFlash Sniper Ridge BeSt HoeJJa Neo Outlier n.Die_soOMind Neo Electric Circuit Hyuk Flash Neo Chain Reaction FantasyA TvT on Neo Chain reaction might be the most ridiculous game ever, you can practically start sieging the other person's main and natural from any direction | ||
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jaQi
1121 Posts
On March 27 2012 01:52 quien wrote: Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction BisuAction Ground Zero FantasyStats Jade By.SunFlash Sniper Ridge BeSt HoeJJa Neo Outlier n.Die_soOMind Neo Electric Circuit Hyuk Flash Neo Chain Reaction FantasyBisu > CH, Fanta > Action, Sun < Stats, Best < Flash Soo < Hoejja Hyuk > Mind Fanta < Flash And the winner is.......... KT!! (again, meh) | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On March 27 2012 02:33 wptlzkwjd wrote: Really excited for the finals :D Hope they all go to ace match Finals has traditionally been BO1, but yea the match up at ACE is highly anticipated | ||
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rslee
Canada226 Posts
On March 26 2012 20:36 Iplaythings wrote: You get to rest and prepare builds for 1 team only. They just made a large advantage huge Actually they start by preparing for 3, then 2, then 1. Technically, the time the two teams spend preparing for each other with 100% confidence is the same. I would say KT actually has an advantage because they have more exposure to the maps during playoff time which could be different from the regular season. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On March 27 2012 02:17 jaQi wrote: Bisu > CH, Fanta > Action, Sun < Stats, Best < Flash Soo < Hoejja Hyuk > Mind Fanta < Flash And the winner is.......... KT!! (again, meh) What if Soo actually beats Hoejja ? Think about it. SKT wins but we are denied an epic FvF grand finals ace match. Everything depends on two scrub zergs + Show Spoiler + (ok Hoejja owns during those playoffs, but that does not clear his 30% ZvZ and ZvT record from '08 to '11) | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On March 27 2012 01:52 quien wrote: Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction BisuAction Ground Zero FantasyStats Jade By.SunFlash Sniper Ridge BeSt HoeJJa Neo Outlier n.Die_soOMind Neo Electric Circuit Hyuk Flash Neo Chain Reaction FantasyGiven Mind's super-slump and who KT decided to send out during the playoffs so far, I'd be more inclined to replace Mind with Wooki in that potential lineup list. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
How it's all gonna do down--> + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9nLAc.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZqmLf.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cNK3L.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ibcgf.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KFmSW.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dB7sj.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fjOlx.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j4uol.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ecylm.jpg) | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
On March 29 2012 08:10 Kiante wrote: anyone know what time this starts? 1800KST. | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On March 27 2012 11:49 endy wrote: What if Soo actually beats Hoejja ? Think about it. SKT wins but we are denied an epic FvF grand finals ace match. Everything depends on two scrub zergs + Show Spoiler + (ok Hoejja owns during those playoffs, but that does not clear his 30% ZvZ and ZvT record from '08 to '11) The outcome of the finals is indeed largely determined by coin-flip ZvZ(s) just like last year. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
BISSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdo0aJxz1mM Edit: Oh wow, ninja'd by a minute or something... | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
Good choice :3 | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
On March 27 2012 01:52 quien wrote: Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction BisuAction Ground Zero FantasyStats Jade By.SunFlash Sniper Ridge BeSt HoeJJa Neo Outlier n.Die_soOMind Neo Electric Circuit Hyuk Flash Neo Chain Reaction FantasyFricking lol. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On March 29 2012 11:09 NicksonReyes wrote: No hype thread yet so I'll just leave Bisu here... + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdo0aJxz1mM Edit: Oh wow, ninja'd by a minute or something... hahaha youtube subscription service | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
95%+ chance of winning 2/7 of the sets just by himself, someone nerf this guy. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On March 29 2012 12:02 EngrishTeacher wrote: Seriously Flash is too OP. 95%+ chance of winning 2/7 of the sets just by himself, someone nerf this guy. Dear becomes a free agent, and SKT hires him on April 1st. :D | ||
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
LOL, along with M18M and Horang2 right? As much of a SKT fan as I am, I would put money on KT taking the win. Flash... is just... um... he needs to have more surgeries. | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Fantasy vs Flash Bisu vs Reach Stats vs S2/Soo Action vs Princess KT winning 4-3 Reach taking ACE Holy crap, I'm a scout | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On March 29 2012 11:07 Condor Hero wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdo0aJxz1mM&feature=g-u-u&context=G2203efeFUAAAAAAAAAA BISSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU thats pretty awesome ! | ||
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6NR
United States1472 Posts
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On March 29 2012 14:31 6NR wrote: Hello guys. I'm glad to finally join tl. I play sc2 mostly but interested in broodwar. I know it is the playoffs already. Cay I ask about the teams playing and what the situation is. I know some players like Fantasy, bisu, and Flash, but if someone could provide a "catch-up" on this so I can appreciate it better. Also when is the next round? March 31? Welcome to TL! :D Currently the SK Planet Proleague 2011-2012 regular season is already over. We started the playoffs a couple of weeks ago, and KT Rolster has fought through CJ Entus and Samsung KHAN to its 3rd consecutive finals, where it faces the seeded team SK Telecom T1 (the best team ever, btw). It's good that you already know Fantasy, Bisu, and Flash, as they are the key players for their respective teams. Also important are Stats (KT) and BeSt (SKT), and the many many KT/SKT zergs.The finals will take place on April 8th, at 6PM KST. They'll be Bo7 with ace match. | ||
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6NR
United States1472 Posts
On March 29 2012 14:41 Kiett wrote: Welcome to TL! :D Currently the SK Planet Proleague 2011-2012 regular season is already over. We started the playoffs a couple of weeks ago, and KT Rolster has fought through CJ Entus and Samsung KHAN to its 3rd consecutive finals, where it faces the seeded team SK Telecom T1 (the best team ever, btw). It's good that you already know Fantasy, Bisu, and Flash, as they are the key players for their respective teams. Also important are Stats (KT) and BeSt (SKT), and the many many KT/SKT zergs.The finals will take place on April 8th, at 6PM KST. They'll be Bo7 with ace match. Thanks Kiett. This is most welcoming, and informative. I've seen a few games of Flash and fantasy through YT (keyword: broodwar) I think I have to watch some more to warm up on the professional broodwar games. Is there an organized archive of recent games? Preferably the playoffs? Sorry for the bother and thanks again. | ||
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UTL_Unlimited
Korea (South)353 Posts
On March 29 2012 14:57 6NR wrote: Thanks Kiett. This is most welcoming, and informative. I've seen a few games of Flash and fantasy through YT (keyword: broodwar) I think I have to watch some more to warm up on the professional broodwar games. Is there an organized archive of recent games? Preferably the playoffs? Sorry for the bother and thanks again. http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV?ob=0&feature=results_main and older games are at: http://www.youtube.com/user/nevake?ob=4&feature=results_main | ||
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Obelisco
Peru1962 Posts
On March 29 2012 14:57 6NR wrote: Thanks Kiett. This is most welcoming, and informative. I've seen a few games of Flash and fantasy through YT (keyword: broodwar) I think I have to watch some more to warm up on the professional broodwar games. Is there an organized archive of recent games? Preferably the playoffs? Sorry for the bother and thanks again. If you want to watch the latest playoffs comentated in english go here ---> http://www.youtube.com/saylebw (he has casted every game of the last proleague) If you would rather listen to korean comentators, follow the links on the above post. I also started watching broodwar recently and trust me, its worth it and so good. btw, the next match, the finals is on April 8th on korean, meaning either late at night April 7 or very early Arpil 8th for westerners (is this correct?) | ||
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[V]
United States905 Posts
Small Vod Thread I assume all SK Planet SPL Vods are there... And welcome to TL! :D | ||
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Wockets
Hong Kong467 Posts
On March 27 2012 11:54 Apex wrote: Given Mind's super-slump and who KT decided to send out during the playoffs so far, I'd be more inclined to replace Mind with Wooki in that potential lineup list. Yeah its really depressing that Mind is doing so terribly, Wooki would be an ample replacement... And yes, we need Reach in this - Mantoss for ace match!!! | ||
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:09 Wockets wrote: Yeah its really depressing that Mind is doing so terribly, Wooki would be an ample replacement... And yes, we need Reach in this - Mantoss for ace match!!! Man I really hope they play Reach, most retiring players gets a farewell game, and wouldnt it be fitting for a player of Reach's status to get his farewell game in the PL finals. | ||
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miercat
394 Posts
[Q+ Show Spoiler + UOTE]On March 29 2012 14:41 Kiett wrote: On March 29 2012 14:31 6NR wrote: Hello guys. I'm glad to finally join tl. I play sc2 mostly but interested in broodwar. I know it is the playoffs already. Cay I ask about the teams playing and what the situation is. I know some players like Fantasy, bisu, and Flash, but if someone could provide a "catch-up" on this so I can appreciate it better. Also when is the next round? March 31? Welcome to TL! :D Currently the SK Planet Proleague 2011-2012 regular season is already over. We started the playoffs a couple of weeks ago, and KT Rolster has fought through CJ Entus and Samsung KHAN to its 3rd consecutive finals, where it faces the seeded team SK Telecom T1 (the best team ever, btw). It's good that you already know Fantasy, Bisu, and Flash, as they are the key players for their respective teams. Also important are Stats (KT) and BeSt (SKT), and the many many KT/SKT zergs.English commentary and translation of Korean Commentary - Recent Playoff Matches - [url=http://www.twitch.tv/walarevolution]http://www.twitch.tv/walarevolution[/url] | ||
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