So KT chooses Ground Zero because it favours Terran the most . Interesting choice because they can send flash to wing it out I guess . Neo Outlier has some really bad stats for terran, but we are talking about flash here. He can do something tricky to turn a disadvantage into a advantage.
Without a doubt Outlier is the worst map for Terran this season. I too am curious as to what Flash has prepared for it, or will they send out Stats instead.
That said, Flash can afford to prepare a LOT for Outlier, seeing as Samsung most likely will choose Outlier as the Ace map again (that or Chain Reaction, but Outlier is almost clearly better (aka worse for Terran ^_^) ).
On March 15 2012 00:02 Kiett wrote: KT picks Flash-friendly maps, opponent picks anti-Flash map.
Nobody saw that coming ^^
It must be a conspiracy
I actually hope that we'll see an ace game in day 2, becuase I wanna see terran lategame on outlier (and succeed)
+Over billion! I want believe that Neo Outlier is actually super terran favored map, with these hills in the center. xD But KT might send Stats in the end. O_o
On March 15 2012 01:58 OpticalShot wrote: Pretty obvious choices for both teams. I guess CJ might stick one of their P's on Ground Zero for the next few days to prepare for PvT exclusively.
On March 15 2012 02:11 Kyuukyuu wrote: I don't even understand how Ground Zero is so bad for ZvT. I would've thought Jade would be worse, but the results speak for themselves I guess.
easy 3rd gas, mines being able to hold whole of top or bottom so easily... screams for late mech imba
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
Huh? I merely implied that games on these maps are generally good.
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
Stats ain't a terran. What about Mind?
mind is trash LOL
I'll have to object to this statement, if you don't mind. True, his stats aren't that amazing, but he has won a MSL. So, in every game, from the moment that he builds his first barracks, he has the potential to spring into action and take out his opponent in a flash. He's the perfect man to pull an unexpected upset versus a team ace - for him victory is never out of reach.
Holy Check! The games are this weekend! Unless Movie & Skyhigh have something special planned, I'm not too enthusiastic about the current line-up. Then again, KT isn't looking too hot either. All things considered, Movie should have a good chance against Flash.
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
Stats ain't a terran. What about Mind?
mind is trash LOL
I'll have to object to this statement, if you don't mind. True, his stats aren't that amazing, but he has won a MSL. So, in every game, from the moment that he builds his first barracks, he has the potential to spring into action and take out his opponent in a flash. He's the perfect man to pull an unexpected upset versus a team ace - for him victory is never out of reach.
I just realised how many players on KT have ID that actually makes sense, haha.
None of those maps looks terribly T-favoured though, actually i don't think there's any map this season that's difficult to PvT on. Maybe Sniper's Ridge a litle but that's it.. Though it's true that we don't see good games on Outlier or Chain Reaction as often.
On March 15 2012 03:11 Emon_ wrote: Holy Check! The games are this weekend! Unless Movie & Skyhigh have something special planned, I'm not too enthusiastic about the current line-up. Then again, KT isn't looking too hot either. All things considered, Movie should have a good chance against Flash.
@ Emon_
I don't think there are many with "good" chance against Flash at the moment. :3 And Movie surely ain't one of them.
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
Stats ain't a terran. What about Mind?
mind is trash LOL
I'll have to object to this statement, if you don't mind. True, his stats aren't that amazing, but he has won a MSL. So, in every game, from the moment that he builds his first barracks, he has the potential to spring into action and take out his opponent in a flash. He's the perfect man to pull an unexpected upset versus a team ace - for him victory is never out of reach.
I think KT will win 2-0. CJ seems weak when it comes to big games. In contrast KT looks strong when it matters the most. Hydra can't handle the fact that Effort is back, Horang only knows how to PvP, Effort still loses against the strong players (Flash, Bisu, Stats,...). Leta has to hold is form and Snow has to start to fulfill the expectations. All in one: CJ needs really good matchup's, otherwise KT wins each match 4-1.
On March 15 2012 01:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: whatever it is I hope KT can win both days without reaching Ace match.
I mean first 3 maps of Day 1 are fucking killer.
Ground Zero,EC and Sniper ridge? too damn good.
Do enlighten me =/... Is there anything special about those 3 maps that i don't know about. I mean it completely escape me why those maps would be good for KT and not for CJ (other than Flash coming out, which throws most other details out of the window).
In any case i ll be looking forward to these games Not much vested interest, so i ll just be hoping for real good Brood War
GZ EC and SR all seems good for Terrans imo, and I think it'll be Flash Stats and Barracks playing on those 3 maps
Stats ain't a terran. What about Mind?
mind is trash LOL
I would not say trash, but rather inconsistent. He was doing fairly well when Bacchus OSL was rolling around. I believe he reached the MSL quarterfinals as well where he lost to Hydra 3-1.
Also, his TvT is the matchup to me that looks like it is suffering the most. His TvZ and TvP are rather untested at the moment, in which is TvP looks pretty hot according to recent stats.
I like CJ's chances. If Snow and Movie don't get mis-matched, I have confidence in the likes of Leta and Horang2 to carry the team with the help of Effor and Hydra.
But I'll give anything for a SkyHigh renaissance during the playoffs.
On March 15 2012 00:55 pred470r wrote: Flash will be ace for day 1 and 3, and stats will be ace for day 2 if it goes to those matches.
This for sure especially considering that Stats has done pretty good in PVP this season although he lost pvp twice to CJ I think so maybe they'll prepare horang2 for the second ace match
On March 15 2012 02:11 Kyuukyuu wrote: I don't even understand how Ground Zero is so bad for ZvT. I would've thought Jade would be worse, but the results speak for themselves I guess.
easy 3rd gas, mines being able to hold whole of top or bottom so easily... screams for late mech imba
Mm well, Jade has an easy 3rd gas too, and teams have for the most part avoided sending zerg on it unless looking for zvt (like I assume action vs. fbh was), which to me seems like the pro-teams think Jade is worse.
I'm not sure KT will be fielding Barracks, his results are pretty mediocre and he's only beaten terrible terrans this season, and KT doesn't need him to bolster their depth the way Stars fields hon_sin. Mind/Wooki/CH are all a lot better.
On March 15 2012 06:55 RamenStyle wrote: I like CJ's chances. If Snow and Movie don't get mis-matched, I have confidence in the likes of Leta and Horang2 to carry the team with the help of Effor and Hydra.
But I'll give anything for a SkyHigh renaissance during the playoffs.
actually anything. is skyhigh got good again... *sigh*
On March 15 2012 02:11 Kyuukyuu wrote: I don't even understand how Ground Zero is so bad for ZvT. I would've thought Jade would be worse, but the results speak for themselves I guess.
easy 3rd gas, mines being able to hold whole of top or bottom so easily... screams for late mech imba
Mm well, Jade has an easy 3rd gas too, and teams have for the most part avoided sending zerg on it unless looking for zvt (like I assume action vs. fbh was), which to me seems like the pro-teams think Jade is worse.
I'm not sure KT will be fielding Barracks, his results are pretty mediocre and he's only beaten terrible terrans this season, and KT doesn't need him to bolster their depth the way Stars fields hon_sin. Mind/Wooki/CH are all a lot better.
Then again, I don't think anyone would be surprised if anyone other than Flash/Stats/CH isn't fielded? (maybe except Wooki) Action, Hoejja, Perfectman aren't exactly great shakes either.
1 team getting to pick the final map in an ACE format is rather dumb. Each team should be allowed to veto 1 map and then the selected map randomized out of the remaining map pool.
EPT
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