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WickedDreams
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal873 Posts
April 01 2003 08:49 GMT
#21
Really Who Cares, most european contrys are way way better than usa bw and we dont spam the forums wich newbie wins local wcg qualifier.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 01 2003 09:07 GMT
#22
There's not 1 country in Europe that's way better than the USA
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WickedDreams
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal873 Posts
April 01 2003 09:10 GMT
#23
Sweeden , Poland , German , just to start i can keep naming...
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 01 2003 09:12 GMT
#24
you should work on that anti-Americanism thing of yours cause it's not helping your sense of judgement
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WickedDreams
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal873 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-01 09:17:52
April 01 2003 09:16 GMT
#25
Who said im Anti American dont start putting words on my mouth i just accept the facts like they are , and the truth is those 3 nations are way above usa on overall comunity and Top players.
Try sounding more mature next post and avoid childish comments. thks.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 01 2003 09:50 GMT
#26
Let's put it this way:

Make a list of 5 people from each of those countries that's by definition WAY better than. There just isn't, sorry. It's very debatable if those countries are even better at all, let alone being way better as you put it.

Froz
Whear
Assem
Rekrul
Dreame/Wizard

gl
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WickedDreams
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal873 Posts
April 01 2003 10:09 GMT
#27
ok here is my list.

Germany
1. Fisheye
2. Infinity
3. MoonDragoon
4. Socke
5. Villert

Poland
1. Blackman
2. Draco
3. Tomson
4. Sys
5. Macia

Sweeden
1.Saft
2.Daaman
3.Willet
4.Kenka/Jesse
5.Trek/Delicato

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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 01 2003 10:12 GMT
#28
and you really think these people are way better than..

Froz
Whear
Assem
Rekrul
Dreame/Wizard

..?

I'll leave it at this, you're getting too smart for me
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 01 2003 10:12 GMT
#29
If WickedDreams stands with his comparsion of US vs European countries on an "overall community" basis, then I would probably agree with him. But however, Naz is saying top 5 from US vs top 5 from European country... I'd say US would stand it's ground.
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BatiGoL
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece272 Posts
April 01 2003 11:05 GMT
#30
i'd say sweden is like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay way better than usa , and germany , poland , as well as France and Spain (very strong atm) are just better .

i am however very-antiamerican =]
ilnp cheated in WDTour whether you like it or not T_T
WhiZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden853 Posts
April 01 2003 11:15 GMT
#31
nazgul dont be such a besserwisser
why
WickedDreams
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal873 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-01 11:36:13
April 01 2003 11:16 GMT
#32
I honestly think the teams i mention would OutPerform usa by a wide Margin ....... My opinion,and im not the only one to think like that but since this is your forum only your opinion counts.

Anyway i would like to hear the opinion of all forum users to put those 4 teams in order from the best to the worst team (btw anyway can tell me if theres a specific term for that in portuguese ir ordem descrecente)

My opinion 1.Sweeden 2.Poland 3.Germany 4.Usa ,
Just this four dont mention teams like canada ,etc..... we are just comparing those 4 teams.

Im off this topic.
To nobody in special just a tought:
The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
April 01 2003 12:34 GMT
#33
Hmmm... I don't think I'm anymore qualified than anyone else to say which country's top 5 are a lot better than another's, but I do think that it's hard to claim that one of the top countries' top 5 (I am inclined to think that the ones listed in this thread are some of the top countries for SC/BW excluding Korea of course) is significantly better than another's top 5. Whew that sentence was a bit bulky. I think the countries listed are all pretty close to each in skill level when it comes to the top players of each, meaning I would think that they would have pretty decent records against each other (and no, I'm not proposing we actually try this).

However, this thread is all about opinion anyways, so there is no real right or wrong answer since it's unlikely for a person to be wrong about their own opinion.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
April 01 2003 12:41 GMT
#34
P.S. I'm more inclined to weigh Naz's opinion a little more in this matter just because he's probably played all these players quite a bit and is a top player himself. I don't really see who would be a better judge of a country's top players' SC/BW skill than one who has played them and is highly skilled himself.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 01 2003 12:56 GMT
#35
On April 01 2003 20:16 WickedDreams wrote:
I honestly think the teams i mention would OutPerform usa by a wide Margin ....... My opinion,and im not the only one to think like that but since this is your forum only your opinion counts.

Anyway i would like to hear the opinion of all forum users to put those 4 teams in order from the best to the worst team (btw anyway can tell me if theres a specific term for that in portuguese ir ordem descrecente)

My opinion 1.Sweeden 2.Poland 3.Germany 4.Usa ,
Just this four dont mention teams like canada ,etc..... we are just comparing those 4 teams.

It's not about the order. It's about whether or not USA belongs in that list among those countries. Even if it's as 4th.
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Qvark
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden185 Posts
April 01 2003 13:14 GMT
#36
I think
USA < Swe
USA < Can
USA < Ger
USA < Pol
Davvve
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 01 2003 13:17 GMT
#37
GUYS NAZ IS SAYING THEY AREN'T _WAY_ BETTER....PERHAPS THEY ARE BETTER....JUST NOT _WAY_ BETTER.

GET IT?

OKSK
why so 진지해?
DReaMe
Profile Joined October 2002
United States337 Posts
April 01 2003 13:24 GMT
#38
If the true talent of USA matched up with the true talent of other countries, top 7 1v1 players, top 2 2v2 teams, usa would win the majority.
wo chej ma go ren
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
April 01 2003 13:31 GMT
#39
Back to the topic, Corbalt also lives in NY, and Rush_vC.20 who was a finalist last year.
PheaRSome
Profile Joined December 2002
United States584 Posts
April 01 2003 13:54 GMT
#40
naz I think Oddy should be up there (according to his WDT performance) ^_^;
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