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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 02 2011 16:23 GMT
#21
On December 03 2011 01:16 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:45 Kiett wrote:
...no votes for Baby? wtf. I mean, yeah effort won both his games, but it's not like he was critical to their lineup. Both matches were 3-0s, and CJ is just so fucking stacked that anyone could have gone out instead of him and it would have been the same result. Meanwhile Baby won the only game for Team 8 on the opening day, and was clutch against KT when the score was 2-2.

Oh well. Grats to effort for still putting up a good performance after being gone for so long.


REPENT SINNER THE MESSIAH HAS RETURNED!! /lol

In all seriousness, I think its mainly the shock and awe factor. Although EffOrt's opponents so far haven't been top-class, its still impressive to see someone who took a year-long break come back and still be playing at such a high level.

EDIT: Just realized that EffOrt is the Messiah and Flash is God.. but EffOrt is the Flash-killer...

He's been practicing at the CJ house since March. Flash's comeback from the surgery is far more impressive.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 02 2011 16:59 GMT
#22
I'm not even mad
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
December 02 2011 17:04 GMT
#23
congratulation effort

Thanks rotinegg for translating. I'm really appreciate it.
Learn,live and love it.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 02 2011 17:07 GMT
#24
EFFORT
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Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
December 02 2011 18:57 GMT
#25
Baby was so more clutch than effort
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 19:02:19
December 02 2011 19:02 GMT
#26
the messiah??? does that mean he is our... (Z)sAviOr???
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
December 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#27
I personally would have given it to...

not sure, actually. Baby's a good candidate but the team went 1-1. firebathero I think would have been my pick.

Anyway, EffOrt deserves it - 2-0 is a big deal.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 02 2011 20:17 GMT
#28
On December 03 2011 04:40 VGhost wrote:
I personally would have given it to...

not sure, actually. Baby's a good candidate but the team went 1-1. firebathero I think would have been my pick.

Anyway, EffOrt deserves it - 2-0 is a big deal.


Team 8 going 1-1 isn't Baby's fault and ACE went 1-1 too though. And Baby went 2-0 as well
I agree with several people that Baby should have gotten it
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
December 02 2011 20:40 GMT
#29
I think that Baby should have gotten it. He really came in clutch in that last game, but at the same time, it is Effort after all...
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
December 02 2011 20:51 GMT
#30
Baby didn't get any votes!? His games were so interesting.
( ・´ー・`)
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 02 2011 20:58 GMT
#31
Must be the hair, Baby shouldve gotten it for his clutch efforts! Effort has enough limelight.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 02 2011 21:03 GMT
#32
Yeah, baby really should have gotten the votes rather than jaedong, this coming from a JD fan
but i don't think that this week's MVP is any real testament to skill, we haven't seen any real star-studded matchups (no ace match... =/) thus far, but here's hoping!
Hey! Listen!
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
December 02 2011 21:12 GMT
#33
Good Job effort.

Effort's 1st game was ok. I liked the 2nd game a lot more. CJ just needs to keep on winning
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:17:35
December 02 2011 21:15 GMT
#34
Gz to Effort,what I don't understand is why did Jaedong get so many votes lol.
Nothing against Jaedong btw just wasn't even close to the most impressive players the past week.
Cackle™
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:29:06
December 02 2011 21:26 GMT
#35
It's a bit odd to do it weekly, since there are 6 games in a week. Only 4 of the 8 teams played twice, so the one-game team players stood no chance (although Stork and Best still got 1 vote each). A reward like this is better served only when there is parity among players.

But, never mind that. Congrats to the Alien, Effort! In 2010 - 2011, only Jaedong, Effort, and JangBi have defeated Flash in a BoX series. We need him in tip-top-shape for more competition.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
DNA.MPK
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States50 Posts
December 02 2011 21:34 GMT
#36
YAY EFFORT
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 02 2011 21:49 GMT
#37
I feel like baby deserves it more, but meh. Winning 2 games after year long retirement is impressive.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:54:09
December 02 2011 21:53 GMT
#38
There's such a small volume of games being played that Weekly MVP actually generates discussion.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 22:15:21
December 02 2011 22:15 GMT
#39
Why did Jaedong get 3 votes while baby got no votes? Super weird.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
December 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#40
On December 03 2011 05:17 Ikonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 04:40 VGhost wrote:
I personally would have given it to...

not sure, actually. Baby's a good candidate but the team went 1-1. firebathero I think would have been my pick.

Anyway, EffOrt deserves it - 2-0 is a big deal.


Team 8 going 1-1 isn't Baby's fault and ACE went 1-1 too though. And Baby went 2-0 as well
I agree with several people that Baby should have gotten it


I guess I look at Baby's wins: he may have won in style, but he beat soO in TvZ (which soO is bad at) and Wooki, who's been impressive on the whole but is still new.

EffOrt meanwhile made hyvaa look silly (granted hyvaa's ZvZ isn't any better than soO's TvZ) and was doing the same to Iris before he made life difficult for himself by screwing around with queens.

I admit I'm biased: I don't particularly like EffOrt but there's no question he's brilliant, while Baby I still regard as a bit of a fraud at least if we're proposing he's a real top player. He's good, but has never convinced me he has "it". Mainly this is because I'm a huge fan of Mind, who has been practically as good as BaBy since the start of last year's season, but even Mind has never quite been "S class" in the last few years.

I suppose in the literal sense, a set five win on a shallow team is more valuable than merely setting the tone for a 3-0 beatdown which the team would probably win anyway. On the other hand, if Tyson comes out vs Wooki instead of Baby I expect him to win too.
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